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Thomas Massie has the highest lifetime career score on the Freedom Index...
A 99!
The Freedom Index measures voting records against the Constitution...
And the GOP did everything to get rid of him..

Really think about that..

— Anti NWO 🇺🇸🇮🇹🇺🇸 (@Anti__NWO) May 20, 2026

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The Jew blame game, and the Epstein conspiracy nothing burger doomed him.

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Did he blame Jews as a people or did he blame the actions of the country of Israel?

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So, the Israel blame game then.

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If critiquing policy toward Israel is a litmus test, you're giving fodder to the extremes. Massie wasn't anywhere near some of the more radical anti-zionists.

But that's the cover story, not the real one. Trump wants sycophants and bootlickers, and he goes as hard after his party mates as he does the opposition. Loyalty above all else is how he operates, and everyone else be damned.

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Nobody is saying that merely critiquing Israeli policy is antisemitic. The issue isn't whether someone criticizes Israel, it's how they do it. When the rhetoric leans on insinuations about hidden influence, dual loyalty, or shadowy control over U.S. politics - which is absolutely what Massie has insinuated, including in his concession speech - that's not ordinary policy critique. That's where it starts to overlap with longstanding antisemitic tropes and conspiracies.

Massie may be more subtle than others, but he still engages in such rhetoric.

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Influence is not in question, hidden or not.

You play make believe. You still playing that they don't hold tremendous influence in finance. And you probably think Hollywood is run by WASPs.

It's ok, people can actually not hate jews or Israel while also recognizing some clear truths about modern day politics and industry.

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This is you engaging in speculation and mistaken assumptions, as you so often do. I recall you arguing not too long ago that I was a never trumper. That's a character flaw. You really do need to fight that tendency. It evidences a low intellect when you have difficulty reading with an attempt to understand or have an inability to engage in nuanced discussions.

I don't allege Jews don't have influence over us, just as I don't allege those critical of Israel are antisemitic. In fact, I've argued just the opposite in this thread, for those actually reading with the attempt to understand. As I said above, when that belief leads you to conclude the Jews are essentially a shadow govt, that's when it moves beyond mere criticism into antisemitic tropes.

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Lol, if any say that Jews control Hollywood, it's antisemitic. Because saying they control anything isn't allowed despite the evidence. You refuse to admit what is common knowledge. Nobody but you and the media pretend that they don't control Hollywood ... and for that matter, much of global finance. Stop playing pretend, it's actually ok to admit that they have significant control in certain areas. It's called just being honest.

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Understanding nuance just isn't your thing.

Never said that there aren't large concentrations of Jews in some industries. Having worked in Hollywood, I can say there are a number of Jewish producers. But control Hollywood? Absolutely not. Most of the people in charge of the studios are Caucasian.

Again, as I tried to explain - though it apparently doesn't seem to be getting through - is there's a difference between having influence in particular areas and controlling the U.S. govt. This really isn't a difficult concept for those older than 13.

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Man, you cannot be serious. Having figureheads that are Caucasian doesn't change ownership and control. Now you are looking foolish, of course there are whiteys that work in hollywood and lead, Jews only make up 10 percent of the US population, doesn't change who actually runs Hollywood and sets the agendas and writes.

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Thomas Massie has the highest lifetime career score on the Freedom Index...
A 99!
The Freedom Index measures voting records against the Constitution...
And the GOP did everything to get rid of him..

Really think about that..

— Anti NWO 🇺🇸🇮🇹🇺🇸 (@Anti__NWO) May 20, 2026

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The Jew blame game, and the Epstein conspiracy nothing burger doomed him.

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Did he blame Jews as a people or did he blame the actions of the country of Israel?

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So, the Israel blame game then.

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If critiquing policy toward Israel is a litmus test, you're giving fodder to the extremes. Massie wasn't anywhere near some of the more radical anti-zionists.

But that's the cover story, not the real one. Trump wants sycophants and bootlickers, and he goes as hard after his party mates as he does the opposition. Loyalty above all else is how he operates, and everyone else be damned.

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Nobody is saying that merely critiquing Israeli policy is antisemitic. The issue isn't whether someone criticizes Israel, it's how they do it. When the rhetoric leans on insinuations about hidden influence, dual loyalty, or shadowy control over U.S. politics - which is absolutely what Massie has insinuated, including in his concession speech - that's not ordinary policy critique. That's where it starts to overlap with longstanding antisemitic tropes and conspiracies.

Massie may be more subtle than others, but he still engages in such rhetoric.

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Influence is not in question, hidden or not.

You play make believe. You still playing that they don't hold tremendous influence in finance. And you probably think Hollywood is run by WASPs.

It's ok, people can actually not hate jews or Israel while also recognizing some clear truths about modern day politics and industry.

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This is you engaging in speculation and mistaken assumptions, as you so often do. I recall you arguing not too long ago that I was a never trumper. That's a character flaw. You really do need to fight that tendency. It evidences a low intellect when you have difficulty reading with an attempt to understand or have an inability to engage in nuanced discussions.

I don't allege Jews don't have influence over us, just as I don't allege those critical of Israel are antisemitic. In fact, I've argued just the opposite in this thread, for those actually reading with the attempt to understand. As I said above, when that belief leads you to conclude the Jews are essentially a shadow govt, that's when it moves beyond mere criticism into antisemitic tropes.

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Lol, if any say that Jews control Hollywood, it's antisemitic. Because saying they control anything isn't allowed despite the evidence. You refuse to admit what is common knowledge. Nobody but you and the media pretend that they don't control Hollywood ... and for that matter, much of global finance. Stop playing pretend, it's actually ok to admit that they have significant control in certain areas. It's called just being honest.

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Understanding nuance just isn't your thing.

Never said that there aren't large concentrations of Jews in some industries. Having worked in Hollywood, I can say there are a number of Jewish producers. But control Hollywood? Absolutely not. Most of the people in charge of the studios are Caucasian.

Again, as I tried to explain - though it apparently doesn't seem to be getting through - is there's a difference between having influence in particular areas and controlling the U.S. govt. This really isn't a difficult concept for those older than 13.

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Man, you cannot be serious. Having figureheads that are Caucasian doesn't change ownership and control. Now you are looking foolish, of course there are whiteys that work in hollywood and lead, Jews only make up 10 percent of the US population, doesn't change who actually runs Hollywood and sets the agendas and writes.

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So now you've devolved into conspiracy theories. Was only a matter of time before you got there.

Which specific Jews "run Hollywood"? And while you're at it, please identify the specific Jews that run financing and banking, as well as the Jews that run our country. I mean if it's that obvious, and I'm apparently too stupid in your book to see it, surely you can identify these mysterious Jews.

Thanks. I'll hang up and listen.

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Mothra said:

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Mothra said:

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Mothra said:

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ATL Bear said:

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Mothra said:

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boognish_bear said:

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Thomas Massie has the highest lifetime career score on the Freedom Index...
A 99!
The Freedom Index measures voting records against the Constitution...
And the GOP did everything to get rid of him..

Really think about that..

— Anti NWO 🇺🇸🇮🇹🇺🇸 (@Anti__NWO) May 20, 2026

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The Jew blame game, and the Epstein conspiracy nothing burger doomed him.

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Did he blame Jews as a people or did he blame the actions of the country of Israel?

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So, the Israel blame game then.

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If critiquing policy toward Israel is a litmus test, you're giving fodder to the extremes. Massie wasn't anywhere near some of the more radical anti-zionists.

But that's the cover story, not the real one. Trump wants sycophants and bootlickers, and he goes as hard after his party mates as he does the opposition. Loyalty above all else is how he operates, and everyone else be damned.

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Nobody is saying that merely critiquing Israeli policy is antisemitic. The issue isn't whether someone criticizes Israel, it's how they do it. When the rhetoric leans on insinuations about hidden influence, dual loyalty, or shadowy control over U.S. politics - which is absolutely what Massie has insinuated, including in his concession speech - that's not ordinary policy critique. That's where it starts to overlap with longstanding antisemitic tropes and conspiracies.

Massie may be more subtle than others, but he still engages in such rhetoric.

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Influence is not in question, hidden or not.

You play make believe. You still playing that they don't hold tremendous influence in finance. And you probably think Hollywood is run by WASPs.

It's ok, people can actually not hate jews or Israel while also recognizing some clear truths about modern day politics and industry.

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This is you engaging in speculation and mistaken assumptions, as you so often do. I recall you arguing not too long ago that I was a never trumper. That's a character flaw. You really do need to fight that tendency. It evidences a low intellect when you have difficulty reading with an attempt to understand or have an inability to engage in nuanced discussions.

I don't allege Jews don't have influence over us, just as I don't allege those critical of Israel are antisemitic. In fact, I've argued just the opposite in this thread, for those actually reading with the attempt to understand. As I said above, when that belief leads you to conclude the Jews are essentially a shadow govt, that's when it moves beyond mere criticism into antisemitic tropes.

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Lol, if any say that Jews control Hollywood, it's antisemitic. Because saying they control anything isn't allowed despite the evidence. You refuse to admit what is common knowledge. Nobody but you and the media pretend that they don't control Hollywood ... and for that matter, much of global finance. Stop playing pretend, it's actually ok to admit that they have significant control in certain areas. It's called just being honest.

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Understanding nuance just isn't your thing.

Never said that there aren't large concentrations of Jews in some industries. Having worked in Hollywood, I can say there are a number of Jewish producers. But control Hollywood? Absolutely not. Most of the people in charge of the studios are Caucasian.

Again, as I tried to explain - though it apparently doesn't seem to be getting through - is there's a difference between having influence in particular areas and controlling the U.S. govt. This really isn't a difficult concept for those older than 13.

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Man, you cannot be serious. Having figureheads that are Caucasian doesn't change ownership and control. Now you are looking foolish, of course there are whiteys that work in hollywood and lead, Jews only make up 10 percent of the US population, doesn't change who actually runs Hollywood and sets the agendas and writes.

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So now you've devolved into conspiracy theories. Was only a matter of time before you got there.

Which specific Jews "run Hollywood"? And while you're at it, please identify the specific Jews that run financing and banking, as well as the Jews that run our country. I mean if it's that obvious, and I'm apparently too stupid in your book to see it, surely you can identify these mysterious Jews.

Thanks. I'll hang up and listen.

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Actually, it's not a conspiracy theory to say jews run hollywood. It's just not, you are looking foolish, and it's clear theres something else going on here. Disinformation on your part?

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Thomas Massie has the highest lifetime career score on the Freedom Index...
A 99!
The Freedom Index measures voting records against the Constitution...
And the GOP did everything to get rid of him..

Really think about that..

— Anti NWO 🇺🇸🇮🇹🇺🇸 (@Anti__NWO) May 20, 2026

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The Jew blame game, and the Epstein conspiracy nothing burger doomed him.

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Did he blame Jews as a people or did he blame the actions of the country of Israel?

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So, the Israel blame game then.

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If critiquing policy toward Israel is a litmus test, you're giving fodder to the extremes. Massie wasn't anywhere near some of the more radical anti-zionists.

But that's the cover story, not the real one. Trump wants sycophants and bootlickers, and he goes as hard after his party mates as he does the opposition. Loyalty above all else is how he operates, and everyone else be damned.

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Nobody is saying that merely critiquing Israeli policy is antisemitic. The issue isn't whether someone criticizes Israel, it's how they do it. When the rhetoric leans on insinuations about hidden influence, dual loyalty, or shadowy control over U.S. politics - which is absolutely what Massie has insinuated, including in his concession speech - that's not ordinary policy critique. That's where it starts to overlap with longstanding antisemitic tropes and conspiracies.

Massie may be more subtle than others, but he still engages in such rhetoric.

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Influence is not in question, hidden or not.

You play make believe. You still playing that they don't hold tremendous influence in finance. And you probably think Hollywood is run by WASPs.

It's ok, people can actually not hate jews or Israel while also recognizing some clear truths about modern day politics and industry.

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This is you engaging in speculation and mistaken assumptions, as you so often do. I recall you arguing not too long ago that I was a never trumper. That's a character flaw. You really do need to fight that tendency. It evidences a low intellect when you have difficulty reading with an attempt to understand or have an inability to engage in nuanced discussions.

I don't allege Jews don't have influence over us, just as I don't allege those critical of Israel are antisemitic. In fact, I've argued just the opposite in this thread, for those actually reading with the attempt to understand. As I said above, when that belief leads you to conclude the Jews are essentially a shadow govt, that's when it moves beyond mere criticism into antisemitic tropes.

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Lol, if any say that Jews control Hollywood, it's antisemitic. Because saying they control anything isn't allowed despite the evidence. You refuse to admit what is common knowledge. Nobody but you and the media pretend that they don't control Hollywood ... and for that matter, much of global finance. Stop playing pretend, it's actually ok to admit that they have significant control in certain areas. It's called just being honest.

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Understanding nuance just isn't your thing.

Never said that there aren't large concentrations of Jews in some industries. Having worked in Hollywood, I can say there are a number of Jewish producers. But control Hollywood? Absolutely not. Most of the people in charge of the studios are Caucasian.

Again, as I tried to explain - though it apparently doesn't seem to be getting through - is there's a difference between having influence in particular areas and controlling the U.S. govt. This really isn't a difficult concept for those older than 13.

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Man, you cannot be serious. Having figureheads that are Caucasian doesn't change ownership and control. Now you are looking foolish, of course there are whiteys that work in hollywood and lead, Jews only make up 10 percent of the US population, doesn't change who actually runs Hollywood and sets the agendas and writes.

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So now you've devolved into conspiracy theories. Was only a matter of time before you got there.

Which specific Jews "run Hollywood"? And while you're at it, please identify the specific Jews that run financing and banking, as well as the Jews that run our country. I mean if it's that obvious, and I'm apparently too stupid in your book to see it, surely you can identify these mysterious Jews.

Thanks. I'll hang up and listen.

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Actually, it's not a conspiracy theory to say jews run hollywood. It's just not, you are looking foolish, and it's clear theres something else going on here. Disinformation on your part?

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So, before going to law school, I worked for Warner Brothers studios for 3 years following graduation from Baylor. I became very familiar with the production companies and studios that ran their films and TV shows through the Warner Bros. label. I then went to work for an independent film company for the next 3 years, and sold independent films to various distributors. I dealt with WB, Universal, Paramount, etc. on a daily basis. So you could say this is an industry in which I have a lot more experience and knowledge than some ignorant, middle aged-white bumpkin who loves his antisemeitc tropes.

Yes, there are quite a few Jews in the industry - disproportianately so. No question. But the idea that Jews run Hollywood just isn't a true statement, in any way, shape or form. Far less than half of the individuals I dealt with were Jewish.

Again, if you want to subscribe to antisemitic tropes, that's up to you. But what you're saying just isn't accurate.

I promise you, a shadow conglomerate composed of Jews isn't running the country, bumpkin.

Thomas Massie says standing by his principles was worth losing his primary.

And he warns Republicans could face a bloodbath in November due to growing “Trump Disappointment Syndrome” among groups like MAHA and DOGE supporters.

“It was absolutely worth it for me.”

“There’s a… pic.twitter.com/CUY83dBTzS

— End Tribalism in Politics (@EndTribalism) May 24, 2026

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Ironically, of the three studios name dropped in your post, one (Paramount) is famously owned by a very pro-Israel Jewish family (the Ellisons), and they are currently buying one of the other two (WB), which really shouldn't even be allowed due to monopoly regulations, but probably will be due to the influence Larry Ellison has in this admin. The admin even openly talks about how Ellison plans to take over and change the direction of CNN to be more pro GOP (+Israel?).

I'm not saying they "run" everything, but Jewish people are extremely powerful players in some major industries, especially relative to their numbers, and acting like they aren't is telling on yourself. I'm even pretty sure I've seen you mention Soros a few times on this board, and let's not forget the how much power the Adelsons have accrued over the years.

I think part of the current issue is that this particular admin seems to give more deference to Israel than previous ones, to the point where we are now bogged down in a conflict that only Israel really ever wanted, so there's a perception that the US is being led along by a smaller partner/ally. Personally, I think that's because our president is just a flat-out moron instead of any supposed surreptitious jewish influences, but the result is the same either way.

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So if you will try to read a little closer, you'll see I never argued they don't have outsize influence in certain industries relevant to their size. Instead I argued just what you admitted - they don't run everything. Indeed, that is correct (I guess even a blind squirrel such as yourself finds an acorn every now and then).

People are pointing to a handful of wealthy individuals and then trying to generalize their actions to an entire religious/ethnic group. That's the core problem here. Powerful people exist in every industry - tech, oil, finance, entertainment - and they come from every background. Their influence comes from wealth and corporate ownership, not from being Jewish.

The Ellisons don't represent "the Jews." Soros doesn't represent "the Jews." Adelson didn't represent "the Jews." They represent themselves, their companies, and their political interests - just like the Kochs, the Waltons, the Murdochs, the Mars family, the Pritzkers, or any other billionaire family.

If your argument is simply that some wealthy Jewish individuals have influence, that's true - just like some wealthy Catholics, Protestants, Mormons, Muslims, atheists, and everyone else. But when you take a few prominent examples and turn them into a narrative about a group "relative to their numbers," you're not describing power structures - you're repeating a very old pattern of attributing the actions of individuals to an entire community.

As for U.S. policy toward Israel, that's a matter of geopolitics, not ethnicity. Every administration - Republican and Democrat - has supported Israel for decades. That's about strategic alliances, military cooperation, and domestic political calculations. You don't need a conspiracy theory to explain it.

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Lne (Paramount) is famously owned by a very pro-Israel Jewish family (the Ellisons), and they are currently buying one of the other two (WB), which really shouldn't even be allowed due to monopoly regulations, but probably will be due to the influence Larry Ellison has in this admin. The admin even openly talks about how Ellison plans to take over and change the direction of CNN to be more pro GOP (+Israel?).

I'm not saying they "run" everything, but Jewish people are extremely powerful players in some major industries, especially relative to their numbers, and acting like they aren't is telling on yourself. I'm even pretty sure I've seen you mention Soros a few times on this board, and let's not forget the how much power the Adelsons have accrued over the years.

I think part of the current issue is that this particular admin seems to give more deference to Israel than previous ones, to the point where we are now bogged down in a conflict that only Israel really ever wanted, so there's a perception that the US is being led along by a smaller partner/ally. Personally, I think that's because our president is just a flat-out moron instead of any supposed surreptitious jewish influences, but the result is the same either way.

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So if you will try to read a little closer, you'll see I never argued they don't have outsize influence in certain industries relevant to their size. Instead I argued just what you admitted - they don't run everything. Indeed, that is correct (I guess even a blind squirrel such as yourself finds an acorn every now and then).

People are pointing to a handful of wealthy individuals and then trying to generalize their actions to an entire religious/ethnic group. That's the core problem here. Powerful people exist in every industry - tech, oil, finance, entertainment - and they come from every background. Their influence comes from wealth and corporate ownership, not from being Jewish.

The Ellisons don't represent "the Jews." Soros doesn't represent "the Jews." Adelson didn't represent "the Jews." They represent themselves, their companies, and their political interests - just like the Kochs, the Waltons, the Murdochs, the Mars family, the Pritzkers, or any other billionaire family.

If your argument is simply that some wealthy Jewish individuals have influence, that's true - just like some wealthy Catholics, Protestants, Mormons, Muslims, atheists, and everyone else. But when you take a few prominent examples and turn them into a narrative about a group "relative to their numbers," you're not describing power structures - you're repeating a very old pattern of attributing the actions of individuals to an entire community.

As for U.S. policy toward Israel, that's a matter of geopolitics, not ethnicity. Every administration - Republican and Democrat - has supported Israel for decades. That's about strategic alliances, military cooperation, and domestic political calculations. You don't need a conspiracy theory to explain it.

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Yeah! Americans wanted the Israelis to slaughter American servicemen on board the USS Liberty and cover it up for 50 years!

Americans wanted Ben Shapiro's grandfather to steal enriched uranium from the US and smuggle it to Israel so they could build their own nuclear bombs!

Americans wanted Jonathan Pollard to become a free man and get deported to Israel after committing the most damaging espionage attack against America in our nation's history which resulted in Israel selling our most valuable secrets to the Soviet Union and China!

The Republican Jewish Coalition, AIPAC, ADL, SPLC are all just completely innocent Jewish Supremacist organizations operating out in the open creating division and disharmony in American society.

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Ironically, of the three studios name dropped in your post, one (Paramount) is famously owned by a very pro-Israel Jewish family (the Ellisons), and they are currently buying one of the other two (WB), which really shouldn't even be allowed due to monopoly regulations, but probably will be due to the influence Larry Ellison has in this admin. The admin even openly talks about how Ellison plans to take over and change the direction of CNN to be more pro GOP (+Israel?).

I'm not saying they "run" everything, but Jewish people are extremely powerful players in some major industries, especially relative to their numbers, and acting like they aren't is telling on yourself. I'm even pretty sure I've seen you mention Soros a few times on this board, and let's not forget the how much power the Adelsons have accrued over the years.

I think part of the current issue is that this particular admin seems to give more deference to Israel than previous ones, to the point where we are now bogged down in a conflict that only Israel really ever wanted, so there's a perception that the US is being led along by a smaller partner/ally. Personally, I think that's because our president is just a flat-out moron instead of any supposed surreptitious jewish influences, but the result is the same either way.

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So if you will try to read a little closer, you'll see I never argued they don't have outsize influence in certain industries relevant to their size. Instead I argued just what you admitted - they don't run everything. Indeed, that is correct (I guess even a blind squirrel such as yourself finds an acorn every now and then).

People are pointing to a handful of wealthy individuals and then trying to generalize their actions to an entire religious/ethnic group. That's the core problem here. Powerful people exist in every industry - tech, oil, finance, entertainment - and they come from every background. Their influence comes from wealth and corporate ownership, not from being Jewish.

The Ellisons don't represent "the Jews." Soros doesn't represent "the Jews." Adelson didn't represent "the Jews." They represent themselves, their companies, and their political interests - just like the Kochs, the Waltons, the Murdochs, the Mars family, the Pritzkers, or any other billionaire family.

If your argument is simply that some wealthy Jewish individuals have influence, that's true - just like some wealthy Catholics, Protestants, Mormons, Muslims, atheists, and everyone else. But when you take a few prominent examples and turn them into a narrative about a group "relative to their numbers," you're not describing power structures - you're repeating a very old pattern of attributing the actions of individuals to an entire community.

As for U.S. policy toward Israel, that's a matter of geopolitics, not ethnicity. Every administration - Republican and Democrat - has supported Israel for decades. That's about strategic alliances, military cooperation, and domestic political calculations. You don't need a conspiracy theory to explain it.

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I mostly agree with you here. What I can't figure out is why you're lumping Massie in with "the Jews" crowd. He's very much focused on Israel and its geopolitical ambitions.