Redbrickbear said:

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Linda Livingstone and the Baylor faculty agree…

You stand with Black women…truth and facts don't matter

[…|the black community would accept the evidence if it shows that Karmelo was NOT acting in self-defense

"we gone stands with ours regardless" ]

I asked a Karmelo Anthony supporter if the black community would accept the evidence if it shows that Karmelo was NOT acting in self-defense

She said that no matter what, “we gone stands with ours regardless” and questioned Metcalf’s role in the stabbing: pic.twitter.com/dMS74AdQND

— Savanah Hernandez (@Savsays) June 5, 2026

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Danielsjackson114 said:

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a perfect dem/lib/progressive warm body for the party

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Wangchung said:

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Funny how they say that Chud guy should go to prison when all he did was provoke an attack by saying rude things to a black man who then, of course, attacked and so Chud used a deadly weapon to defend himself. Now they say Karmelo should go free when all he did was use words and presence to provoke an "attack" from Austin so Karmelo used an illegal deadly weapon to defend himself.

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Porteroso said:

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It's very sad. Maybe the kid did feel bullied, and i can understand wanting to defend yourself. But you cannot kill someone over that. Tragic that a young life was lost. He must be found guilty.

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Harrison Bergeron said:

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Porteroso said:

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It's very sad. Maybe the kid did feel bullied, and i can understand wanting to defend yourself. But you cannot kill someone over that. Tragic that a young life was lost. He must be found guilty.

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You do know the "bullied" narrative is completely made up like "hand up, don't shoot," Jujcy Smalls, "gentle giant," etc.

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The_barBEARian said:

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Do you believe Derek Chauvin deserves to be in jail right now?

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cowboycwr said:

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Harrison Bergeron said:

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Porteroso said:

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It's very sad. Maybe the kid did feel bullied, and i can understand wanting to defend yourself. But you cannot kill someone over that. Tragic that a young life was lost. He must be found guilty.

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You do know the "bullied" narrative is completely made up like "hand up, don't shoot," Jujcy Smalls, "gentle giant," etc.

Chimps chimp. End of story.

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Of course it is made up. Just like many of the "facts"(really rumors) that have floated around the internet for the last year that the left and blacks have jumped on and spewed again and again.

If we pulled up the thread about the killing when it would happen we would see them all there.

And they are the same things I mentioned earlier in the thread as well.

They are the stuff about him being bullied, that the twins are documented bullies at school, that it was a clear sharpener, that it was a clear cleaner, that it was raining, that he was minding his business, etc.

But people have read it on the internet and taken it as fact to the point that like a previous post here shows they will not accept otherwise

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Harrison Bergeron said:

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cowboycwr said:

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Harrison Bergeron said:

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Porteroso said:

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It's very sad. Maybe the kid did feel bullied, and i can understand wanting to defend yourself. But you cannot kill someone over that. Tragic that a young life was lost. He must be found guilty.

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You do know the "bullied" narrative is completely made up like "hand up, don't shoot," Jujcy Smalls, "gentle giant," etc.

Chimps chimp. End of story.

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Of course it is made up. Just like many of the "facts"(really rumors) that have floated around the internet for the last year that the left and blacks have jumped on and spewed again and again.

If we pulled up the thread about the killing when it would happen we would see them all there.

And they are the same things I mentioned earlier in the thread as well.

They are the stuff about him being bullied, that the twins are documented bullies at school, that it was a clear sharpener, that it was a clear cleaner, that it was raining, that he was minding his business, etc.

But people have read it on the internet and taken it as fact to the point that like a previous post here shows they will not accept otherwise

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That why letting idiots vote is dangerous.

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Harrison Bergeron said:

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cowboycwr said:

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Harrison Bergeron said:

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Porteroso said:

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It's very sad. Maybe the kid did feel bullied, and i can understand wanting to defend yourself. But you cannot kill someone over that. Tragic that a young life was lost. He must be found guilty.

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You do know the "bullied" narrative is completely made up like "hand up, don't shoot," Jujcy Smalls, "gentle giant," etc.

Chimps chimp. End of story.

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Of course it is made up. Just like many of the "facts"(really rumors) that have floated around the internet for the last year that the left and blacks have jumped on and spewed again and again.

If we pulled up the thread about the killing when it would happen we would see them all there.

And they are the same things I mentioned earlier in the thread as well.

They are the stuff about him being bullied, that the twins are documented bullies at school, that it was a clear sharpener, that it was a clear cleaner, that it was raining, that he was minding his business, etc.

But people have read it on the internet and taken it as fact to the point that like a previous post here shows they will not accept otherwise

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That why letting idiots vote is dangerous.

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El Oso said:

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There's been about a 90 minute delay in the trial after the lunch break ended. The prosecution, defense, and defense's parents are inside. The Metcalf's and the rest of the public are not being allowed in.

Is a plea in the works?

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El Oso said:

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GrowlTowel said:

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El Oso said:

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According to the Frisco police officer the defense called this morning, it is not illegal to have a pocket knife, under 5 inches, at a high school athletics competition. However, it is against school policy.

So, legally, possessing the knife wasn't legally wrong, but it was still wrong.

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Seems largely irrelevant since he is not charged with a weapon possession charge - to my knowledge.

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It's super relevant in keeping his self defense claim alive.

In Texas, self-defense is legally justified if you reasonably believe force is immediately necessary to protect against someone else's unlawful force or deadly force. You are only permitted to use a proportional amount of force, and you cannot have provoked the encounter or be committing a crime at the time.

Personally, I am having a hard time with #1. I do not think a knife responding to a shove, maybe two depending on which witness you believe, is proportional.

I'm not sure, based on the evidence, Anthony provoked the encounter. I was on a track team. Hanging out with other teams was, I would say, fairly common. His existence under the tent is not provocation in my opinion. We can argue about the "touch me and find out," but I don't think I can get behind Anthony as the initial aggressor.

And if it isn't illegal to possess the knife, and as you pointed out a weapons charge isn't even on the table, he's safe on the part I bolded.

The defense is still presenting, and they must overcome #1, but I think they have shown #2 and #3 did not happen, so this could be self defense if they can overcome #1.

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Harrison Bergeron said:

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America has suffered from and paid more to these chimps than they ever contributed via slavery. If only we could send them all back and let them chimp all over Africa.

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El Oso said:

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GrowlTowel said:

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El Oso said:

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According to the Frisco police officer the defense called this morning, it is not illegal to have a pocket knife, under 5 inches, at a high school athletics competition. However, it is against school policy.

So, legally, possessing the knife wasn't legally wrong, but it was still wrong.

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Seems largely irrelevant since he is not charged with a weapon possession charge - to my knowledge.

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It's super relevant in keeping his self defense claim alive.

In Texas, self-defense is legally justified if you reasonably believe force is immediately necessary to protect against someone else's unlawful force or deadly force. You are only permitted to use a proportional amount of force, and you cannot have provoked the encounter or be committing a crime at the time.

Personally, I am having a hard time with #1. I do not think a knife responding to a shove, maybe two depending on which witness you believe, is proportional.

I'm not sure, based on the evidence, Anthony provoked the encounter. I was on a track team. Hanging out with other teams was, I would say, fairly common. His existence under the tent is not provocation in my opinion. We can argue about the "touch me and find out," but I don't think I can get behind Anthony as the initial aggressor.

And if it isn't illegal to possess the knife, and as you pointed out a weapons charge isn't even on the table, he's safe on the part I bolded.

The defense is still presenting, and they must overcome #1, but I think they have shown #2 and #3 did not happen, so this could be self defense if they can overcome #1.

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El Oso said:

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cowboycwr said:

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El Oso said:

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GrowlTowel said:

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El Oso said:

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According to the Frisco police officer the defense called this morning, it is not illegal to have a pocket knife, under 5 inches, at a high school athletics competition. However, it is against school policy.

So, legally, possessing the knife wasn't legally wrong, but it was still wrong.

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Seems largely irrelevant since he is not charged with a weapon possession charge - to my knowledge.

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It's super relevant in keeping his self defense claim alive.

In Texas, self-defense is legally justified if you reasonably believe force is immediately necessary to protect against someone else's unlawful force or deadly force. You are only permitted to use a proportional amount of force, and you cannot have provoked the encounter or be committing a crime at the time.

Personally, I am having a hard time with #1. I do not think a knife responding to a shove, maybe two depending on which witness you believe, is proportional.

I'm not sure, based on the evidence, Anthony provoked the encounter. I was on a track team. Hanging out with other teams was, I would say, fairly common. His existence under the tent is not provocation in my opinion. We can argue about the "touch me and find out," but I don't think I can get behind Anthony as the initial aggressor.

And if it isn't illegal to possess the knife, and as you pointed out a weapons charge isn't even on the table, he's safe on the part I bolded.

The defense is still presenting, and they must overcome #1, but I think they have shown #2 and #3 did not happen, so this could be self defense if they can overcome #1.

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1. The force he used was excessive compared to the force of the little shove.

No argument here.

2. He provoked it by being asked multiple times, I think 15 was the number said in testimony, and refusing to leave.

Maybe. But Metcalf moved up four rows to confront him. He should have gotten a coach. An adult should have been present from the start.

3. He was not hanging out with someone. He wasn't even sitting with the one person he knew.

Doesn't matter in my opinion. Yes, he should have left when asked, but he didn't do anything violent until someone put hands on him. But now we're back to one and we agree his response was over the line

4. It is VERY uncommon to just sit in another teams area. It may have been common when you ran X amount of years ago but today it is uncommon. Unless you are sitting with the person you know and talking with them. Once you are done you leave.

Maybe. It's been eight years since I was last on the field at a track meet as a judge. But again, there were available ways to get him to leave without shoving him first.

5. His comment is aggressive beyond the initial refusal to leave.

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It's clearly a threat. But it's also a threat no witness believed would happen. If they didn't believe the threat was real, I dont think it can be seen as provocative in hindsight sight.

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