303Bear said:
Far from a complaint, just noting that the perp lived here perfectly freely for ~8-9 of the last 19 years under republican administrations who did nothing either, ergo, the title is at best, disingenuous.
Realitybites said:303Bear said:
Far from a complaint, just noting that the perp lived here perfectly freely for ~8-9 of the last 19 years under republican administrations who did nothing either, ergo, the title is at best, disingenuous.
Both illegal and mass immigration are liberal policies. They both act to destroy, not conserve, the culture, economy, and social fabric of a nation.
The fact that both Democrat and Establishment Republican administrations have relentlessly advanced both doesn't change that fact.
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https://nypost.com/2026/08/11/us-news/venezuelan-illegal-migrant-identified-in-fatal-stabbing-of-68-year-old-california-retiree/
Not a surprise this happened in a sanctuary state like Cali. The left is pure evil.
Perp has been in the country since 2007. Why did Bush or Trump 1 not do anything about him?
1. The Bush faction of the Republican donor class likes mass migration and has never been serious about stopping it.
Cheap labor is good for the Wall St. class....not matter how it hurts normal Americans.
2. Trump has been endlessly thwarted in trying to deport people like this....whole States, like Minnesota, have come dangerously close to being in open insurrection against Federal laws and policies.
[Federal and immigration judges have continuously blocked or limited several key components of President Trump's mass deportation and detention agenda. Lower courts have issued temporary blocks on fast-track removals, courthouse arrests, and protected status revocations, higher appellate courts and the Supreme Court have also allowed some administration enforcement priorities to proceed]
[According to a The New York Times litigation tracker, while courts have allowed some of the administration's policies to stay in effect in more than 500 active cases, judges have issued temporary restraining orders or preliminary injunctions to halt or partially block policies...]
[Twelve states and the District of Columbia have officially refused to assist the Trump administration's mass deportation efforts by enacting statewide "sanctuary" laws or policies. These policies explicitly prohibit local and state law enforcement officers from collaborating with Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE).]
Did any of what you cite re: Trump come into play here? Possibly/probably with respect to referrals to ICE by the California arrests/judges; however, I suspect given it is a NY Post article cited, that any direct interference by California, the judges, etc. would have been highlighted.
Arrest records are public. If ICE were doing the logical thing we were promised, they could be monitoring dockets for illegal immigrants and actually doing what we were told would be done,
Instead, we have the human equivalent of the flock camera running around in unmarked SUVs. Sure, there will be some arrests and deportations from that on a volume basis alone, but, just like flock, at the expense of civil rights because **** you, do as you're told so you dont get hurt or illegally investigated.
And there it is - just as suspected. You'll ***** about ICE not deporting criminals, and then when they actually do so, you'll complain about the way they go about it.
You like to make up scenarios for which there is no evidence.
Please show me where I have ever complained about ICE deporting criminals. I will hang up and listen.
If you want to try reading what I actually said and engage with reality, I will be around.
Nice dodge. Speaking of inventing things, I didn't say you complained about deporting criminals. I said you complained about the way ICE goes about it.
In one paragraph you're asking why ICE didn't remove this guy after his arrest.
In the next you're comparing ICE enforcement to mass surveillance and claiming civil-rights violations. Those are your words, not a scenario I invented.
Improve your reading comprehension.
That is not at all what you said, but you can keep pretending it was because it makes you feel better.
You identify the differences, but ignore what I actually said or the nuance involved. I will not connect the dots for you. I have never complained about the way ICE deports anyone. That is a full fledged lie. I have complained about how they trample the constitutional rights of citizens and legal residents to try and find illegal immigrants.
Are "surges" of ICE agents in specific cities not similar enough to mass surveillance to worry you one bit about the power over every day movement and actions of citizens the federal government has asserted in the last ~2 years?
"You'll ***** about ICE not deporting criminals, and then when they actually do so, you'll complain about the way they go about it."
I'll let others decide if you're completely full of *****
Hint: You are.
Show me where I have complained about ICE deporting an illegal immigrant. Not shooting a citizen, not stopping a legal resident with no cause. Deporting an illegal immigrant.
You are still making up situations in your mind to justify your own self righteous anger.
Not only a liar, but a glutton for punishment:
"Instead, we have the human equivalent of the flock camera running around in unmarked SUVs. Sure, there will be some arrests and deportations from that on a volume basis alone, but, just like flock, at the expense of civil rights because **** you, do as you're told so you dont get hurt or illegally investigated."
Are they arresting good law abiding citizens?
Know when to stop digging, son. Revisionist word salads aren't going to change what you posted.
Isnt there something in the Bible about bearing false witness?
Yes they are arresting citizens, at least 170 as of last year. They have also shot several citizens and legal residents and at least one man in Houston who was not who they were even allegedly looking for.
We can disagree over the tactics, but calling facts lies is beneath you.
Just more of your lies and dumbassery.
Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) arrested more than 127,000 noncitizens with prior criminal convictions between January 2025 and early 2026, according to arrest records. And you're complaining about 170 bad arrests, all of which were likely overturned.
I appreciate your attempt to spin, but my statement stands:
"You'll ***** about ICE not deporting criminals, and then when they actually do so, you'll complain about the way they go about it."
You keep addressing points I've never made and/or miss the point of what I have actually said. That's fine, else can agree to disagree and I am sure the strawmen you built at likely at end of their endurance. You have thoroughly thrashed them.
It Thursday evening, so we will likely bomb Iran within the next 24 hours and then you will feel better.
Ah, yes, you are the misunderstood victim. You never actually said anything or took any positions attributed to you on this thread.
Of course. This is what you do - say a bunch of bull ****, and then when someone calls you out on it, either deny you said it, or claim your position has been mischaracterized and quibble over the wording..
As I said earlier, everyone on this thread can judge from your own comments whether you're full of *****
Keep spinning.
You like scenarios that you "win" regardless of reality.
All I asked was for you to point out where I actually said any of the things that you claimed I said z. You have quoted and re-quoted me without ever showing anywhere I have actually complained about ICE deporting illegal immigrants. Which I have never done.
I'm not spinning anything.
You're inventing things to fit your agenda.
More quibbling.
You're an intellectually dishonest jackass who projects and gaslights - accusing others of that of which you are guilty. This thread is a perfect example of why it's a complete waste of time to engage with you.
Everyone who has read this thread knows exactly what you said. As I said, I will let other's decide if you've been mischaracterized.
Mothra said:
I've already shown what you are demanding, as any reasonable person reading this thread can see. You're being extremely defensive because you have egg on your face, but you're too prideful and arrogant to admit when you're wrong.
And when you get your butt-kicked - as you have on this thread - instead of just taking the L, admitting you were wrong, or at least admitting you may not have articulated your position very well, that is when the projection, gaslighting and personal attacks begin, and you become the victim. That's why it's a complete waste of time to engage with you. You're both intellectually dishonest, and not particularly bright - a dangerous combination.
I am quite comfortable standing by my previous assertions and evidence. I choose not to get sucked into your vortex of quibbling over irrelevant points. I will therefore let you have the last word. I know that's important for you, to try and save face.
Have a good evening.
