Baylor's new halal dining

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SipEmBears
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Danielsjackson114
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GET THIS BS OUT!

WHEN DO THE FEET WASHING STATIONS COME?

Danielsjackson114
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SipEmBears
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And the piling on begins

Danielsjackson114
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Still can't tell me that Aranda is purely DEI
J.R.
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Whoa. little BU has changed since the 80s. BU and the rest of us just figured it was slitting the Goat's neck for Cabrito. Now we have halal. Can I get a Halal CFS, please?
Mitch Blood Green
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Danielsjackson114 said:

Still can't tell me that Aranda is purely DEI


I've come around to your thinking. Not only should we never have a minority coach, we should field an all white team.

The right kind of whites!

The team should only come from Christian schools.
Wangchung
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Danielsjackson114 said:

Still can't tell me that Aranda is purely DEI
Coached LSU defense to a national championship. Say what you want about his dismal record since the conference championship, but he was hired for legitimate reasons.
Our vibrations were getting nasty. But why? I was puzzled, frustrated... Had we deteriorated to the level of dumb beasts?

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SipEmBears said:

And the piling on begins




Well it's not exactly wrong. Progressive christianity isn't Christianity - it's just borrowing the name for obvious reasons.

Unfortunately, the only option we have is to not give them money - the board is controlled and our rich donors used to be actual moderate Christians - but the culture has shifted them, and we know "moderate" Christians today are actually just allies for the progressive agenda.

Baylor is done for as a Christian school unless the board takes over and kicks out the destructionists. But if history is any example, BU will hang on to enough religion so that "traditional" Christians keep sending their kids there, but the Christian influence lessens every year. But long term, the less moderate-to-traditional it becomes, the more it has to seek "international" and progressive money.

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TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:

SipEmBears said:

And the piling on begins




Well it's not exactly wrong. Progressive christianity isn't Christianity - it's just borrowing the name for obvious reasons.

Unfortunately, the only option we have is to not give them money - the board is controlled and our rich donors used to be actual moderate Christians - but the culture has shifted them, and we know "moderate" Christians today are actually just allies for the progressive agenda.

Baylor is done for as a Christian school unless the board takes over and kicks out the destructionists. But if history is any example, BU will hang on to enough religion so that "traditional" Christians keep sending their kids there, but the Christian influence lessens every year. But long term, the less moderate-to-traditional it becomes, the more it has to seek "international" and progressive money.



I'm sure they will mis your annual donation of 50 cents.
fubar
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Are there that many Muslims at BU so as to make this sensical?
Gunter gleiben glauchen globen
Jack Bauer
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When are we installing the loudspeakers for the "Call to Prayer"?
Danielsjackson114
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slow drip. It is coming tho. Muslim classes, towel on heads, etc
Mitch Blood Green
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fubar said:

Are there that many Muslims at BU so as to make this sensical?


Internet says 1%. About 1.4% Hindu.

https://ir.web.baylor.edu/fall-facts-2025
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Mitch Blood Green said:

fubar said:

Are there that many Muslims at BU so as to make this sensical?


Internet says 1%. About 1.4% Hindu.

https://ir.web.baylor.edu/fall-facts-2025

Would never have guessed it.

Good on Baylor for addressing the need.
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SipEmBears
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fubar said:

Are there that many Muslims at BU so as to make this sensical?
1%, about 200 people
SipEmBears
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I think Baylor created a completely unnecessary PR problem for itself. We are a Christian university with roughly 20,000 students, and by the best estimates Muslims represent maybe 1% of the student body, perhaps 200 students.

I have no issue with Muslim students attending Baylor or practicing their faith. But when you choose to attend an explicitly Christian university, I don't think the university has an obligation to modify its dining program around every religious practice. There are halal options available off campus in Waco, just as students with other preferences sometimes have to go off campus for what they want.

The bigger issue is the complete lack of upside for Baylor. Even if offering halal food seems like a small accommodation, Baylor had to know that promoting it around "diversity" would create controversy among alumni, donors, parents, and prospective students who value Baylor specifically because of its Christian identity. We created a national PR headache ourselves to solve a problem affecting a very small percentage of students.

Baylor should be welcoming to everyone. But being welcoming doesn't require constantly changing the institution to accommodate every group that comes through the doors. Students also choose Baylor knowing what Baylor is. We are a Christian university, and we should be confident enough in that identity that the expectation isn't always for Baylor to assimilate to everyone else.

This wasn't some crisis that needed solving. It was an unnecessary decision with very little benefit and a completely predictable reputational downside.
Mitch Blood Green
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SipEmBears said:

I think Baylor created a completely unnecessary PR problem for itself. We are a Christian university with roughly 20,000 students, and by the best estimates Muslims represent maybe 1% of the student body, perhaps 200 students.

I have no issue with Muslim students attending Baylor or practicing their faith. But when you choose to attend an explicitly Christian university, I don't think the university has an obligation to modify its dining program around every religious practice. There are halal options available off campus in Waco, just as students with other preferences sometimes have to go off campus for what they want.

The bigger issue is the complete lack of upside for Baylor. Even if offering halal food seems like a small accommodation, Baylor had to know that promoting it around "diversity" would create controversy among alumni, donors, parents, and prospective students who value Baylor specifically because of its Christian identity. We created a national PR headache ourselves to solve a problem affecting a very small percentage of students.

Baylor should be welcoming to everyone. But being welcoming doesn't require constantly changing the institution to accommodate every group that comes through the doors. Students also choose Baylor knowing what Baylor is. We are a Christian university, and we should be confident enough in that identity that the expectation isn't always for Baylor to assimilate to everyone else.

This wasn't some crisis that needed solving. It was an unnecessary decision with very little benefit and a completely predictable reputational downside.


How? It's been in place a year. You just learned about it.
fubar
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I swear, some people scour the internet looking for stuff to scare, offend, or, even better, scare and offend them.
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SipEmBears said:

The bigger issue is the complete lack of upside for Baylor. Even if offering halal food seems like a small accommodation, Baylor had to know that promoting it around "diversity" would create controversy among alumni, donors, parents, and prospective students who value Baylor specifically because of its Christian identity. We created a national PR headache ourselves to solve a problem affecting a very small percentage of students.

I appreciate your perspective, and on some level I agree with you. But two things:

First, what do you think the PR headache would be like if word got out that Baylor refused a small accommodation for its Muslim (or any other group of) students?

The second thought is more concerning to me. We are a Christian university, as several have stated, shouldn't we treat people as we want to be treated?
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Mitch Blood Green said:

SipEmBears said:

I think Baylor created a completely unnecessary PR problem for itself. We are a Christian university with roughly 20,000 students, and by the best estimates Muslims represent maybe 1% of the student body, perhaps 200 students.

I have no issue with Muslim students attending Baylor or practicing their faith. But when you choose to attend an explicitly Christian university, I don't think the university has an obligation to modify its dining program around every religious practice. There are halal options available off campus in Waco, just as students with other preferences sometimes have to go off campus for what they want.

The bigger issue is the complete lack of upside for Baylor. Even if offering halal food seems like a small accommodation, Baylor had to know that promoting it around "diversity" would create controversy among alumni, donors, parents, and prospective students who value Baylor specifically because of its Christian identity. We created a national PR headache ourselves to solve a problem affecting a very small percentage of students.

Baylor should be welcoming to everyone. But being welcoming doesn't require constantly changing the institution to accommodate every group that comes through the doors. Students also choose Baylor knowing what Baylor is. We are a Christian university, and we should be confident enough in that identity that the expectation isn't always for Baylor to assimilate to everyone else.

This wasn't some crisis that needed solving. It was an unnecessary decision with very little benefit and a completely predictable reputational downside.


How? It's been in place a year. You just learned about it.
And now it's out and the damage is done. It took a year? Neat. Result is the same. Baylor is under no compunction to cater to ANY other religion. Why? Because those are false religions.
Our vibrations were getting nasty. But why? I was puzzled, frustrated... Had we deteriorated to the level of dumb beasts?

possible12
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Ironic the date of announcement.
Realitybites
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SipEmBears said:




Stop sending your kids.

Stop donating your money.

This is absurd.
Realitybites
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fubar said:

SipEmBears said:

The bigger issue is the complete lack of upside for Baylor. Even if offering halal food seems like a small accommodation, Baylor had to know that promoting it around "diversity" would create controversy among alumni, donors, parents, and prospective students who value Baylor specifically because of its Christian identity. We created a national PR headache ourselves to solve a problem affecting a very small percentage of students.

I appreciate your perspective, and on some level I agree with you. But two things:

First, what do you think the PR headache would be like if word got out that Baylor refused a small accommodation for its Muslim (or any other group of) students?

The second thought is more concerning to me. We are a Christian university, as several have stated, shouldn't we treat people as we want to be treated?


The point of a Muslim attending a Christian University is not to educate him. It is to convert him.

Therefore the correct policy of a school like Baylor is to make that student as comfortable at Baylor as possible, and as uncomfortable with Islam as possible.

Otherwise there is really no good reason to have Muslim students at a Christian university.

Because if a Muslim student at Baylor graduates and remains Muslim all you have done is create a greater threat to your nation and your faith.
Mitch Blood Green
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Wangchung said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

SipEmBears said:

I think Baylor created a completely unnecessary PR problem for itself. We are a Christian university with roughly 20,000 students, and by the best estimates Muslims represent maybe 1% of the student body, perhaps 200 students.

I have no issue with Muslim students attending Baylor or practicing their faith. But when you choose to attend an explicitly Christian university, I don't think the university has an obligation to modify its dining program around every religious practice. There are halal options available off campus in Waco, just as students with other preferences sometimes have to go off campus for what they want.

The bigger issue is the complete lack of upside for Baylor. Even if offering halal food seems like a small accommodation, Baylor had to know that promoting it around "diversity" would create controversy among alumni, donors, parents, and prospective students who value Baylor specifically because of its Christian identity. We created a national PR headache ourselves to solve a problem affecting a very small percentage of students.

Baylor should be welcoming to everyone. But being welcoming doesn't require constantly changing the institution to accommodate every group that comes through the doors. Students also choose Baylor knowing what Baylor is. We are a Christian university, and we should be confident enough in that identity that the expectation isn't always for Baylor to assimilate to everyone else.

This wasn't some crisis that needed solving. It was an unnecessary decision with very little benefit and a completely predictable reputational downside.


How? It's been in place a year. You just learned about it.
And now it's out and the damage is done. It took a year? Neat. Result is the same. Baylor is under no compunction to cater to ANY other religion. Why? Because those are false religions.


What damage? There's a place on campus that serves halal foods.

I bet I drive by 50 places a week that can offer me up different ways to make chicken every week. It's like the Bubba Gump of chicken in Dallas. Halal chicken, Currie chicken Korean fried chicken, Kentucky fried chicken (they let chickens die for that crap). Chicken wings. Chicken nuggets. President too chicken to serve. Always chickens out. Chicken fried chicken.

It's no "damage" to me. I'm just glad people are catching on to the greatness of chicken.

Might I interest you in those tiny watermelons? Especially from a Farmers Market. You'll be black by Wednesday.
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Realitybites said:

SipEmBears said:




Stop sending your kids.

Stop donating your money.

This is absurd.


Most of us can't afford to send our kids there so they have to offer accommodations to people who can. It's college. It's a business. Send your kids to Stephen F Austin where you can afford and they likely have a place on campus that offers halal foods for the students.
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Realitybites said:

fubar said:

SipEmBears said:

The bigger issue is the complete lack of upside for Baylor. Even if offering halal food seems like a small accommodation, Baylor had to know that promoting it around "diversity" would create controversy among alumni, donors, parents, and prospective students who value Baylor specifically because of its Christian identity. We created a national PR headache ourselves to solve a problem affecting a very small percentage of students.

I appreciate your perspective, and on some level I agree with you. But two things:

First, what do you think the PR headache would be like if word got out that Baylor refused a small accommodation for its Muslim (or any other group of) students?

The second thought is more concerning to me. We are a Christian university, as several have stated, shouldn't we treat people as we want to be treated?


The point of a Muslim attending a Christian University is not to educate him. It is to convert him.

Therefore the correct policy of a school like Baylor is to make that student as comfortable at Baylor as possible, and as uncomfortable with Islam as possible.

Otherwise there is really no good reason to have Muslim students at a Christian university.

Because if a Muslim student at Baylor graduates and remains Muslim all you have done is create a greater threat to your nation and your faith.


What if it were kosher food instead of halal. Would you feel the same way?

We're talking about food. Not the game. Not the game.
Realitybites
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Mitch Blood Green said:

Realitybites said:

fubar said:

SipEmBears said:

The bigger issue is the complete lack of upside for Baylor. Even if offering halal food seems like a small accommodation, Baylor had to know that promoting it around "diversity" would create controversy among alumni, donors, parents, and prospective students who value Baylor specifically because of its Christian identity. We created a national PR headache ourselves to solve a problem affecting a very small percentage of students.

I appreciate your perspective, and on some level I agree with you. But two things:

First, what do you think the PR headache would be like if word got out that Baylor refused a small accommodation for its Muslim (or any other group of) students?

The second thought is more concerning to me. We are a Christian university, as several have stated, shouldn't we treat people as we want to be treated?


The point of a Muslim attending a Christian University is not to educate him. It is to convert him.

Therefore the correct policy of a school like Baylor is to make that student as comfortable at Baylor as possible, and as uncomfortable with Islam as possible.

Otherwise there is really no good reason to have Muslim students at a Christian university.

Because if a Muslim student at Baylor graduates and remains Muslim all you have done is create a greater threat to your nation and your faith.


What if it were kosher food instead of halal. Would you feel the same way?

We're talking about food. Not the game. Not the game.


Yep. Kosher food, Hindu food offered to idols, etc.
Mitch Blood Green
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Realitybites said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

Realitybites said:

fubar said:

SipEmBears said:

The bigger issue is the complete lack of upside for Baylor. Even if offering halal food seems like a small accommodation, Baylor had to know that promoting it around "diversity" would create controversy among alumni, donors, parents, and prospective students who value Baylor specifically because of its Christian identity. We created a national PR headache ourselves to solve a problem affecting a very small percentage of students.

I appreciate your perspective, and on some level I agree with you. But two things:

First, what do you think the PR headache would be like if word got out that Baylor refused a small accommodation for its Muslim (or any other group of) students?

The second thought is more concerning to me. We are a Christian university, as several have stated, shouldn't we treat people as we want to be treated?


The point of a Muslim attending a Christian University is not to educate him. It is to convert him.

Therefore the correct policy of a school like Baylor is to make that student as comfortable at Baylor as possible, and as uncomfortable with Islam as possible.

Otherwise there is really no good reason to have Muslim students at a Christian university.

Because if a Muslim student at Baylor graduates and remains Muslim all you have done is create a greater threat to your nation and your faith.


What if it were kosher food instead of halal. Would you feel the same way?

We're talking about food. Not the game. Not the game.


Yep. Kosher food, Hindu food offered to idols, etc.


Really? It's way of preparing food.

I've had some barbecue I'd eat if I were an Idol and tell how nice day it is for a white wedding.
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Realitybites said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

Realitybites said:

fubar said:

SipEmBears said:

The bigger issue is the complete lack of upside for Baylor. Even if offering halal food seems like a small accommodation, Baylor had to know that promoting it around "diversity" would create controversy among alumni, donors, parents, and prospective students who value Baylor specifically because of its Christian identity. We created a national PR headache ourselves to solve a problem affecting a very small percentage of students.

I appreciate your perspective, and on some level I agree with you. But two things:

First, what do you think the PR headache would be like if word got out that Baylor refused a small accommodation for its Muslim (or any other group of) students?

The second thought is more concerning to me. We are a Christian university, as several have stated, shouldn't we treat people as we want to be treated?


The point of a Muslim attending a Christian University is not to educate him. It is to convert him.

Therefore the correct policy of a school like Baylor is to make that student as comfortable at Baylor as possible, and as uncomfortable with Islam as possible.

Otherwise there is really no good reason to have Muslim students at a Christian university.

Because if a Muslim student at Baylor graduates and remains Muslim all you have done is create a greater threat to your nation and your faith.


What if it were kosher food instead of halal. Would you feel the same way?

We're talking about food. Not the game. Not the game.


Yep. Kosher food, Hindu food offered to idols, etc.

I'm not a fan of BU doing the Halal thing. We eat what we eat. You have choices. If they would like some vegetarian food, we have that too and no need to slit a salad's throat. Don't need Kosher Food either. Be expensive to retrofit those kitchens to strictly Kosher and I'm no sure if we have a Rabbi in the house to bless the pipes? Hindu is a religion and their food is not tied to a religion. Now, all them damn Mexicans are all Catholic, so wafers and wine for everyone !
fubar
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I can skip the wafers, right?
ABC BEAR
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My sources tell me that a degree program in Jew Jitsu is under consideration to counter the gastronomic chicken debacle. Let me off this merry-go-round, I'm ready for the Loop-O-Planes.
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Could not agree more. Wrong decision. Once again a position that just infuriates the base, 99% and to get horrible PR. Not a good look for the University and its leadership. They need to reverse course and quick.

Here is an idea, think before acting.
fubar
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ABC BEAR said:

My sources tell me that a degree program in Jew Jitsu is under consideration to counter the gastronomic chicken debacle. Let me off this merry-go-round, I'm ready for the Loop-O-Planes.

Our Sole Purpose as a university is to convert those Red Sea pedestrians, not to go all crazy and jitsu their sorry asses.

Get on board with the program.
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What will Linda's reaction be when the halal diners start throwing the fudge packers off the top of Pat Neff?
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