I can't wait for morning prayer

Mitch Blood Green said:

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Wangchung said:

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Mitch Blood Green said:

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SipEmBears said:

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I think Baylor created a completely unnecessary PR problem for itself. We are a Christian university with roughly 20,000 students, and by the best estimates Muslims represent maybe 1% of the student body, perhaps 200 students.

I have no issue with Muslim students attending Baylor or practicing their faith. But when you choose to attend an explicitly Christian university, I don't think the university has an obligation to modify its dining program around every religious practice. There are halal options available off campus in Waco, just as students with other preferences sometimes have to go off campus for what they want.

The bigger issue is the complete lack of upside for Baylor. Even if offering halal food seems like a small accommodation, Baylor had to know that promoting it around "diversity" would create controversy among alumni, donors, parents, and prospective students who value Baylor specifically because of its Christian identity. We created a national PR headache ourselves to solve a problem affecting a very small percentage of students.

Baylor should be welcoming to everyone. But being welcoming doesn't require constantly changing the institution to accommodate every group that comes through the doors. Students also choose Baylor knowing what Baylor is. We are a Christian university, and we should be confident enough in that identity that the expectation isn't always for Baylor to assimilate to everyone else.

This wasn't some crisis that needed solving. It was an unnecessary decision with very little benefit and a completely predictable reputational downside.

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How? It's been in place a year. You just learned about it.

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And now it's out and the damage is done. It took a year? Neat. Result is the same. Baylor is under no compunction to cater to ANY other religion. Why? Because those are false religions.

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What damage? There's a place on campus that serves halal foods.

I bet I drive by 50 places a week that can offer me up different ways to make chicken every week. It's like the Bubba Gump of chicken in Dallas. Halal chicken, Currie chicken Korean fried chicken, Kentucky fried chicken (they let chickens die for that crap). Chicken wings. Chicken nuggets. President too chicken to serve. Always chickens out. Chicken fried chicken.

It's no "damage" to me. I'm just glad people are catching on to the greatness of chicken.

Might I interest you in those tiny watermelons? Especially from a Farmers Market. You'll be black by Wednesday.

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The damage is actual Christians thinking of attending Baylor will look elsewhere when looking for a Christian institution. Catering to false religions ONLY devalues the credibility of the world's largest Baptist university. I had jerked oxtail for dinner last night. I probably eat blacker than you, Patna! Lol

Mitch Blood Green said:

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Realitybites said:

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Mitch Blood Green said:

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Realitybites said:

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fubar said:

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SipEmBears said:

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The bigger issue is the complete lack of upside for Baylor. Even if offering halal food seems like a small accommodation, Baylor had to know that promoting it around "diversity" would create controversy among alumni, donors, parents, and prospective students who value Baylor specifically because of its Christian identity. We created a national PR headache ourselves to solve a problem affecting a very small percentage of students.

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I appreciate your perspective, and on some level I agree with you. But two things:

First, what do you think the PR headache would be like if word got out that Baylor refused a small accommodation for its Muslim (or any other group of) students?

The second thought is more concerning to me. We are a Christian university, as several have stated, shouldn't we treat people as we want to be treated?

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The point of a Muslim attending a Christian University is not to educate him. It is to convert him.

Therefore the correct policy of a school like Baylor is to make that student as comfortable at Baylor as possible, and as uncomfortable with Islam as possible.

Otherwise there is really no good reason to have Muslim students at a Christian university.

Because if a Muslim student at Baylor graduates and remains Muslim all you have done is create a greater threat to your nation and your faith.

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What if it were kosher food instead of halal. Would you feel the same way?

We're talking about food. Not the game. Not the game.

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Yep. Kosher food, Hindu food offered to idols, etc.

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Really? It's way of preparing food.

I've had some barbecue I'd eat if I were an Idol and tell how nice day it is for a white wedding.

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It's a religious ceremony. Stop pretending it's just how they cut their meat.

Is there something about being nice to people that hurts right wing Christians? The only PR hit Baylor will take on this would come from the realization that we have a bunch of hateful people as alums.

Lmao now looney liberals trying to mask up Wokeness/dei as simply "being nice"

Danielsjackson114 said:

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Lmao now looney liberals trying to mask up Wokeness/dei as simply "being nice"

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Hiring someone less qualified because of their race or religion is wrong. Cooking them a meal they like is not.

Harrison Bergeron said:

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What will Linda's reaction be when the halal diners start throwing the fudge packers off the top of Pat Neff?

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Now, don't exaggerate. They will simply stone them in accordance with the hadith (pigs be unto them).

Danielsjackson114 said:

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No one wants that bull*****

If I went to a Muslim country, I would be forced to eat what they serve

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Which is why the United States is great-you can have either.

Danielsjackson114 said:

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Lmao no you liberal buffoon

I don't want my country to look like Europe, a towel head mecca

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You would have said the same about the Irish, Germans, Asians, African Americans who can vote, etc. small mind you have there.
By the way, your hero and fearless leader has deep affection for many Arabs.

Frank: " You would have said the same about the Irish, Germans, Asians, African Americans who can vote, etc. small mind you have there."

No evidence for that claim. The Irish, Germans, African-Americans, etc., obeyed the rules and were not trying to replace the nation they came to with their own rules.

Thanks,

It was so stupid of a post, I simply didn't respond

I hope he wakes up every morning to towel head morning prayer

Halal food is delicious. Sorry you guys don't like tasty meals.

Danielsjackson114 said:

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No one wants that bull*****

If I went to a Muslim country, I would be forced to eat what they serve

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Not really. Most Muslim countries make at least some exceptions to dietary laws for non-Muslims.

Realitybites said:

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Mitch Blood Green said:

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Realitybites said:

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fubar said:

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SipEmBears said:

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The bigger issue is the complete lack of upside for Baylor. Even if offering halal food seems like a small accommodation, Baylor had to know that promoting it around "diversity" would create controversy among alumni, donors, parents, and prospective students who value Baylor specifically because of its Christian identity. We created a national PR headache ourselves to solve a problem affecting a very small percentage of students.

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I appreciate your perspective, and on some level I agree with you. But two things:

First, what do you think the PR headache would be like if word got out that Baylor refused a small accommodation for its Muslim (or any other group of) students?

The second thought is more concerning to me. We are a Christian university, as several have stated, shouldn't we treat people as we want to be treated?

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The point of a Muslim attending a Christian University is not to educate him. It is to convert him.

Therefore the correct policy of a school like Baylor is to make that student as comfortable at Baylor as possible, and as uncomfortable with Islam as possible.

Otherwise there is really no good reason to have Muslim students at a Christian university.

Because if a Muslim student at Baylor graduates and remains Muslim all you have done is create a greater threat to your nation and your faith.

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What if it were kosher food instead of halal. Would you feel the same way?

We're talking about food. Not the game. Not the game.

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Yep. Kosher food, Hindu food offered to idols, etc.

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I may regret asking, but what does kosher food have to do with idols?

Mitch Blood Green said:

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Danielsjackson114 said:

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Still can't tell me that Aranda is purely DEI

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I've come around to your thinking. Not only should we never have a minority coach, we should field an all white team.

The right kind of whites!

The team should only come from Christian schools.

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Am I a bad person because I go to a Halal chicken place down the street and it's almost the best chicken I have ever had.

Their hot bone in fried chicken full leg is the best fried chicken besides my mom's I've ever had.

Gotta admit, if it's as good the one I go to, I'd be heading there once a week.

Wangchung said:

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Mitch Blood Green said:

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Wangchung said:

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Mitch Blood Green said:

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SipEmBears said:

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I think Baylor created a completely unnecessary PR problem for itself. We are a Christian university with roughly 20,000 students, and by the best estimates Muslims represent maybe 1% of the student body, perhaps 200 students.

I have no issue with Muslim students attending Baylor or practicing their faith. But when you choose to attend an explicitly Christian university, I don't think the university has an obligation to modify its dining program around every religious practice. There are halal options available off campus in Waco, just as students with other preferences sometimes have to go off campus for what they want.

The bigger issue is the complete lack of upside for Baylor. Even if offering halal food seems like a small accommodation, Baylor had to know that promoting it around "diversity" would create controversy among alumni, donors, parents, and prospective students who value Baylor specifically because of its Christian identity. We created a national PR headache ourselves to solve a problem affecting a very small percentage of students.

Baylor should be welcoming to everyone. But being welcoming doesn't require constantly changing the institution to accommodate every group that comes through the doors. Students also choose Baylor knowing what Baylor is. We are a Christian university, and we should be confident enough in that identity that the expectation isn't always for Baylor to assimilate to everyone else.

This wasn't some crisis that needed solving. It was an unnecessary decision with very little benefit and a completely predictable reputational downside.

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How? It's been in place a year. You just learned about it.

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And now it's out and the damage is done. It took a year? Neat. Result is the same. Baylor is under no compunction to cater to ANY other religion. Why? Because those are false religions.

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What damage? There's a place on campus that serves halal foods.

I bet I drive by 50 places a week that can offer me up different ways to make chicken every week. It's like the Bubba Gump of chicken in Dallas. Halal chicken, Currie chicken Korean fried chicken, Kentucky fried chicken (they let chickens die for that crap). Chicken wings. Chicken nuggets. President too chicken to serve. Always chickens out. Chicken fried chicken.

It's no "damage" to me. I'm just glad people are catching on to the greatness of chicken.

Might I interest you in those tiny watermelons? Especially from a Farmers Market. You'll be black by Wednesday.

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The damage is actual Christians thinking of attending Baylor will look elsewhere when looking for a Christian institution. Catering to false religions ONLY devalues the credibility of the world's largest Baptist university. I had jerked oxtail for dinner last night. I probably eat blacker than you, Patna! Lol

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Baylor is in no way a Chirstian university any longer. But I don't think this food has much to do with it.

Frank Galvin said:

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Danielsjackson114 said:

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Lmao now looney liberals trying to mask up Wokeness/dei as simply "being nice"

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Hiring someone less qualified because of their race or religion is wrong. Cooking them a meal they like is not.

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Hey I actually like this statement. I guess I have to admit I love Halal food.

fubar said:

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I can skip the wafers, right?

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hey, you be you..I understand low-carb!

Wangchung said:

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Mitch Blood Green said:

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Realitybites said:

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Mitch Blood Green said:

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Realitybites said:

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fubar said:

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SipEmBears said:

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The bigger issue is the complete lack of upside for Baylor. Even if offering halal food seems like a small accommodation, Baylor had to know that promoting it around "diversity" would create controversy among alumni, donors, parents, and prospective students who value Baylor specifically because of its Christian identity. We created a national PR headache ourselves to solve a problem affecting a very small percentage of students.

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I appreciate your perspective, and on some level I agree with you. But two things:

First, what do you think the PR headache would be like if word got out that Baylor refused a small accommodation for its Muslim (or any other group of) students?

The second thought is more concerning to me. We are a Christian university, as several have stated, shouldn't we treat people as we want to be treated?

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The point of a Muslim attending a Christian University is not to educate him. It is to convert him.

Therefore the correct policy of a school like Baylor is to make that student as comfortable at Baylor as possible, and as uncomfortable with Islam as possible.

Otherwise there is really no good reason to have Muslim students at a Christian university.

Because if a Muslim student at Baylor graduates and remains Muslim all you have done is create a greater threat to your nation and your faith.

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What if it were kosher food instead of halal. Would you feel the same way?

We're talking about food. Not the game. Not the game.

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Yep. Kosher food, Hindu food offered to idols, etc.

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Really? It's way of preparing food.

I've had some barbecue I'd eat if I were an Idol and tell how nice day it is for a white wedding.

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It's a religious ceremony. Stop pretending it's just how they cut their meat.

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Halal isn't a religious ceremony, per se. Many cultures view Halal as a more humane way to slaughter an animal as they believe it is more hygienic too. While I have no problem with Halal as a practice and it is NOT a Muslim only customs. Kosher meat is Halal. Not thinking we need Halal at BU. I someone cant eat what is available, they are in the wrong place.

Frank Galvin said:

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Danielsjackson114 said:

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Lmao now looney liberals trying to mask up Wokeness/dei as simply "being nice"

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Hiring someone less qualified because of their race or religion is wrong. Cooking them a meal they like is not.

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It's not the cooking of a meal. It is meeting a religious requirement of a false religion by, a Baptist school.

Why is Baylor now a contributor to a religious ceremony?

I got no need for this non-sense. Jews get Cheeseburgers, Muslims can enjoy some nice Jav. (Is the Jav in the Swine family ?