Who is voting for Bo French?

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Danielsjackson114 said:

Indians are the worst people to do business with

I know right..You have to leave the Peperoni of their Jimmy Johns Sammie! Oh, the stress. Send them all back.
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J.R. said:

Danielsjackson114 said:

Indians are the worst people to do business with

I know right..You have to leave the Peperoni of their Jimmy Johns Sammie! Oh, the stress. Send them all back.


That's pork, which Hindus can eat, you dumb ***** Now you do need to take the roast beef off their sandwich.
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I don't see hate. I see demographic discussions that be disagreed with.
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Mitch Blood Green said:

The_barBEARian said:



I don't see hate. I see demographic discussions that be disagreed with.


I certainly think we see a ease of throwing out terms of disparaging when talking about "White people" vs a much more guarded and conservative approach when talking about other groups of racial-ethnic origin.

I mean for instance....

Jewish Americans who are not religious (the religious are very conservative) are in fact very progressive. So we see the same extreme divide in the Jewish community between Liberals (78%) vs Conservatives (22%)

[There are many exit polls that demonstrate high percentages of Jewish voters supporting Kamala Harris this CNN/Edison exit poll indicates that 78 percent of Jewish voters supported Kamala Harris, while 22 percent supported Donald Trump. According to this poll, 88 percent of Jewish women and 71 percent of Jewish men supported Kamala Harris over Trump.]

And we see that Black American women are also very much super supporters of the Democratic party.

[For decades, Black women have been the most ardent supporters of the Democratic party. Most recently, in the 2024 election, they voted for Kamala Harris at 92%. Since 1972, Black people's overall support for Democrats has stayed at about 90% during a presidential election, with Black women voting even more Democratic than Black men. No other demographic has maintained that level of voter loyalty for a political party.]
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/dec/19/why-black-women-vote-democrat


Yet when these type groups are talked about its far more neutral and far less negative in tone or rhetoric.

While the whole "uh white people" tone is very common now days on tv, radio, blogs, podcasts, etc.
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Redbrickbear said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

The_barBEARian said:



I don't see hate. I see demographic discussions that be disagreed with.


I certainly think we see a ease of throwing out terms of disparaging when talking about "White people" vs a much more guarded and conservative approach when talking about other groups of racial-ethnic origin.

I mean for instance....

Jewish Americans who are not religious (the religious are very conservative) are in fact very progressive. So we see the same extreme divide in the Jewish community between Liberals (78%) vs Conservatives (22%)

[There are many exit polls that demonstrate high percentages of Jewish voters supporting Kamala Harris this CNN/Edison exit poll indicates that 78 percent of Jewish voters supported Kamala Harris, while 22 percent supported Donald Trump. According to this poll, 88 percent of Jewish women and 71 percent of Jewish men supported Kamala Harris over Trump.]

And we see that Black American women are also very much super supporters of the Democratic party.

[For decades, Black women have been the most ardent supporters of the Democratic party. Most recently, in the 2024 election, they voted for Kamala Harris at 92%. Since 1972, Black people's overall support for Democrats has stayed at about 90% during a presidential election, with Black women voting even more Democratic than Black men. No other demographic has maintained that level of voter loyalty for a political party.]
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/dec/19/why-black-women-vote-democrat


Yet when these type groups are talked about its far more neutral and far less negative in tone or rhetoric.

While the whole "uh white people" tone is very common now days on tv, radio, blogs, podcasts, etc.

Help me see what was disparaging? None of what you wrote crosses the line into "disparaging" or racism. 90% of black people vote for DEMS is not offensive.
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Mitch Blood Green said:

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I don't see hate. I see demographic discussions that be disagreed with.


"A lot of our problems are with white people, and white tribalism, and white panic, and white insecurities and that type of thing...."
A direct qoute from Mr GOLDBERG

If I said something like...

"A lot of our problems are with jewish people and jewish tribalism and jewish panic, and jewish insecurities and that type of thing...."

All the Boomers on this board would piss their pants and demand I be killed.
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The_barBEARian said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

The_barBEARian said:



I don't see hate. I see demographic discussions that be disagreed with.


"A lot of our problems are with white people, and white tribalism, and white panic, and white insecurities and that type of thing...."
A direct qoute from Mr GOLDBERG

If I said something like...

"A lot of our problems are with jewish people and jewish tribalism and jewish panic, and jewish insecurities and that type of thing...."

All the Boomers on this board would piss their pants and demand I be killed.
Point taken. I heard "liberal white women" and "conservative white men." Which made me think of this board and the Lindsey Clancey trial.
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Mitch Blood Green said:

Redbrickbear said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

The_barBEARian said:



I don't see hate. I see demographic discussions that be disagreed with.


I certainly think we see a ease of throwing out terms of disparaging when talking about "White people" vs a much more guarded and conservative approach when talking about other groups of racial-ethnic origin.

I mean for instance....

Jewish Americans who are not religious (the religious are very conservative) are in fact very progressive. So we see the same extreme divide in the Jewish community between Liberals (78%) vs Conservatives (22%)

[There are many exit polls that demonstrate high percentages of Jewish voters supporting Kamala Harris this CNN/Edison exit poll indicates that 78 percent of Jewish voters supported Kamala Harris, while 22 percent supported Donald Trump. According to this poll, 88 percent of Jewish women and 71 percent of Jewish men supported Kamala Harris over Trump.]

And we see that Black American women are also very much super supporters of the Democratic party.

[For decades, Black women have been the most ardent supporters of the Democratic party. Most recently, in the 2024 election, they voted for Kamala Harris at 92%. Since 1972, Black people's overall support for Democrats has stayed at about 90% during a presidential election, with Black women voting even more Democratic than Black men. No other demographic has maintained that level of voter loyalty for a political party.]
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/dec/19/why-black-women-vote-democrat


Yet when these type groups are talked about its far more neutral and far less negative in tone or rhetoric.

While the whole "uh white people" tone is very common now days on tv, radio, blogs, podcasts, etc.

Help me see what was disparaging? None of what you wrote crosses the line into "disparaging" or racism. 90% of black people vote for DEMS is not offensive.



It's about the tone and the way people talk about one group vs another.

When one group is talked about its far more neutral and far less negative in tone or rhetoric.

While a different group is talked about in a different tone….the whole "uh white people" thing very common
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Prediction market odds...not polls

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Mitch Blood Green said:

The_barBEARian said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

The_barBEARian said:



I don't see hate. I see demographic discussions that be disagreed with.


"A lot of our problems are with white people, and white tribalism, and white panic, and white insecurities and that type of thing...."
A direct qoute from Mr GOLDBERG

If I said something like...

"A lot of our problems are with jewish people and jewish tribalism and jewish panic, and jewish insecurities and that type of thing...."

All the Boomers on this board would piss their pants and demand I be killed.

Point taken. I heard "liberal white women" and "conservative white men." Which made me think of this board and the Lindsey Clancey trial.

Thank God a moral and sensible black man bailed out the bloodthirsty Liberal white people. Life is good.
Call it a tax, the people are outraged! Call it a tariff, the people get out their checkbooks and wave their American flags!!!
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Lets see how the "Meritocracy" and assimilation is going:

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historian said:

Talk about big lies! Repeating your lies over and over again does not make them true. The documented facts best out my post.


Documented.

Okay. Document your so far unsupported claims
“Life, liberty, and property do not exist because men have made laws. On the contrary, it was the fact that life, liberty, and property existed beforehand that caused men to make laws in the first place.” (The Law, p.6) Frederic Bastiat
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The_barBEARian said:



Didn't get any of that from the attached clip. It sounded like a white guy talking, and his point was that all Abrahamic religions are a con. Given that Freedom of and from religion is a bedrock principle in America, I don't have a problem with people saying stuff.
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Frank Galvin said:

The_barBEARian said:



Didn't get any of that from the attached clip. It sounded like a white guy talking, and his point was that all Abrahamic religions are a con. Given that Freedom of and from religion is a bedrock principle in America, I don't have a problem with people saying stuff.


He's Indian.

He said Christianity is garbage, putrid nonsense.
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The_barBEARian said:

Frank Galvin said:

The_barBEARian said:



Didn't get any of that from the attached clip. It sounded like a white guy talking, and his point was that all Abrahamic religions are a con. Given that Freedom of and from religion is a bedrock principle in America, I don't have a problem with people saying stuff.


He's Indian.

He said Christianity is garbage, putrid nonsense.

Then he said, "Actually, all Abrahamic religions are." What I didn't hear him say was:

Here are some Indians living in the U.S. talking about "eradicating Christianity from the world," calling Jesus "that dead Jew on a stick," a "demon," a "zombie," and a "scammer." @RajeevSharma00 says every single household in Pakistan should be bombed with an Indian missile.

Regardless, it is no more offensive than what was found in several Young republican/Turning Point USA email accounts. There are offensive idiots in every culture.

Also-First Amendment.
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Frank Galvin said:

The_barBEARian said:

Frank Galvin said:

The_barBEARian said:



Didn't get any of that from the attached clip. It sounded like a white guy talking, and his point was that all Abrahamic religions are a con. Given that Freedom of and from religion is a bedrock principle in America, I don't have a problem with people saying stuff.


He's Indian.

He said Christianity is garbage, putrid nonsense.

Then he said, "Actually, all Abrahamic religions are." What I didn't hear him say was:

Here are some Indians living in the U.S. talking about "eradicating Christianity from the world," calling Jesus "that dead Jew on a stick," a "demon," a "zombie," and a "scammer." @RajeevSharma00 says every single household in Pakistan should be bombed with an Indian missile.

Regardless, it is no more offensive than what was found in several Young republican/Turning Point USA email accounts. There are offensive idiots in every culture.

Also-First Amendment.

What First Amendment?

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The_barBEARian said:

Frank Galvin said:

The_barBEARian said:

Frank Galvin said:

The_barBEARian said:



Didn't get any of that from the attached clip. It sounded like a white guy talking, and his point was that all Abrahamic religions are a con. Given that Freedom of and from religion is a bedrock principle in America, I don't have a problem with people saying stuff.


He's Indian.

He said Christianity is garbage, putrid nonsense.

Then he said, "Actually, all Abrahamic religions are." What I didn't hear him say was:

Here are some Indians living in the U.S. talking about "eradicating Christianity from the world," calling Jesus "that dead Jew on a stick," a "demon," a "zombie," and a "scammer." @RajeevSharma00 says every single household in Pakistan should be bombed with an Indian missile.

Regardless, it is no more offensive than what was found in several Young republican/Turning Point USA email accounts. There are offensive idiots in every culture.

Also-First Amendment.

What First Amendment?




The allegations also include that he was intoxicated and shoved the man in question (in front of multiple witnesses).

Interesting the tweet leaves that part out.
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The_barBEARian said:

Frank Galvin said:

The_barBEARian said:

Frank Galvin said:

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Didn't get any of that from the attached clip. It sounded like a white guy talking, and his point was that all Abrahamic religions are a con. Given that Freedom of and from religion is a bedrock principle in America, I don't have a problem with people saying stuff.


He's Indian.

He said Christianity is garbage, putrid nonsense.

Then he said, "Actually, all Abrahamic religions are." What I didn't hear him say was:

Here are some Indians living in the U.S. talking about "eradicating Christianity from the world," calling Jesus "that dead Jew on a stick," a "demon," a "zombie," and a "scammer." @RajeevSharma00 says every single household in Pakistan should be bombed with an Indian missile.

Regardless, it is no more offensive than what was found in several Young republican/Turning Point USA email accounts. There are offensive idiots in every culture.

Also-First Amendment.

What First Amendment?



The man, later identified as Collins, allegedly shoved the friend with both hands and "told him to go back to his country," according to the court documents. Witnesses told officers the incident was "frightening" and described it as an "attack."

Thinking it was the assault, not the language. But nice try.

https://billingsgazette.com/news/state-regional/article_6a19ff73-0c93-57cd-812d-dc7adc783daf.html
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Frank Galvin said:

The_barBEARian said:

Frank Galvin said:

The_barBEARian said:

Frank Galvin said:

The_barBEARian said:



Didn't get any of that from the attached clip. It sounded like a white guy talking, and his point was that all Abrahamic religions are a con. Given that Freedom of and from religion is a bedrock principle in America, I don't have a problem with people saying stuff.


He's Indian.

He said Christianity is garbage, putrid nonsense.

Then he said, "Actually, all Abrahamic religions are." What I didn't hear him say was:

Here are some Indians living in the U.S. talking about "eradicating Christianity from the world," calling Jesus "that dead Jew on a stick," a "demon," a "zombie," and a "scammer." @RajeevSharma00 says every single household in Pakistan should be bombed with an Indian missile.

Regardless, it is no more offensive than what was found in several Young republican/Turning Point USA email accounts. There are offensive idiots in every culture.

Also-First Amendment.

What First Amendment?



The man, later identified as Collins, allegedly shoved the friend with both hands and "told him to go back to his country," according to the court documents. Witnesses told officers the incident was "frightening" and described it as an "attack."

Thinking it was the assault, not the language. But nice try.

https://billingsgazette.com/news/state-regional/article_6a19ff73-0c93-57cd-812d-dc7adc783daf.html


There were two separate charges, one of which was for his speech.

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The_barBEARian said:

Frank Galvin said:

The_barBEARian said:

Frank Galvin said:

The_barBEARian said:

Frank Galvin said:

The_barBEARian said:



Didn't get any of that from the attached clip. It sounded like a white guy talking, and his point was that all Abrahamic religions are a con. Given that Freedom of and from religion is a bedrock principle in America, I don't have a problem with people saying stuff.


He's Indian.

He said Christianity is garbage, putrid nonsense.

Then he said, "Actually, all Abrahamic religions are." What I didn't hear him say was:

Here are some Indians living in the U.S. talking about "eradicating Christianity from the world," calling Jesus "that dead Jew on a stick," a "demon," a "zombie," and a "scammer." @RajeevSharma00 says every single household in Pakistan should be bombed with an Indian missile.

Regardless, it is no more offensive than what was found in several Young republican/Turning Point USA email accounts. There are offensive idiots in every culture.

Also-First Amendment.

What First Amendment?



The man, later identified as Collins, allegedly shoved the friend with both hands and "told him to go back to his country," according to the court documents. Witnesses told officers the incident was "frightening" and described it as an "attack."

Thinking it was the assault, not the language. But nice try.

https://billingsgazette.com/news/state-regional/article_6a19ff73-0c93-57cd-812d-dc7adc783daf.html


There were two separate charges, one of which was for his speech.



What is the source of the graphic? The statute applies to "actions" based on race, creed, color, gender, national origin, or religion. It is likely that the felony is an enhancement of the misdemeanor with the evidence of the hate coming from the statement. The misdememanor would be a lesser-included charge.

The statute would not allow a charge based on the statement alone, because there is a difference between a statement and an action.
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Frank Galvin said:

The_barBEARian said:

Frank Galvin said:

The_barBEARian said:

Frank Galvin said:

The_barBEARian said:

Frank Galvin said:

The_barBEARian said:



Didn't get any of that from the attached clip. It sounded like a white guy talking, and his point was that all Abrahamic religions are a con. Given that Freedom of and from religion is a bedrock principle in America, I don't have a problem with people saying stuff.


He's Indian.

He said Christianity is garbage, putrid nonsense.

Then he said, "Actually, all Abrahamic religions are." What I didn't hear him say was:

Here are some Indians living in the U.S. talking about "eradicating Christianity from the world," calling Jesus "that dead Jew on a stick," a "demon," a "zombie," and a "scammer." @RajeevSharma00 says every single household in Pakistan should be bombed with an Indian missile.

Regardless, it is no more offensive than what was found in several Young republican/Turning Point USA email accounts. There are offensive idiots in every culture.

Also-First Amendment.

What First Amendment?



The man, later identified as Collins, allegedly shoved the friend with both hands and "told him to go back to his country," according to the court documents. Witnesses told officers the incident was "frightening" and described it as an "attack."

Thinking it was the assault, not the language. But nice try.

https://billingsgazette.com/news/state-regional/article_6a19ff73-0c93-57cd-812d-dc7adc783daf.html


There were two separate charges, one of which was for his speech.



What is the source of the graphic? The statute applies to "actions" based on race, creed, color, gender, national origin, or religion. It is likely that the felony is an enhancement of the misdemeanor with the evidence of the hate coming from the statement. The misdememanor would be a lesser-included charge.

The statute would not allow a charge based on the statement alone, because there is a difference between a statement and an action.


I just used Gemini and got the same charges with this prompt:

"what was the jaxton tayte collins charged with by State of Montana?"

Hate crime enhancements are unconstitutional and should be challenged and taken up by this more conservative leaning Supreme Court.

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The_barBEARian said:

Frank Galvin said:

The_barBEARian said:

Frank Galvin said:

The_barBEARian said:

Frank Galvin said:

The_barBEARian said:

Frank Galvin said:

The_barBEARian said:



Didn't get any of that from the attached clip. It sounded like a white guy talking, and his point was that all Abrahamic religions are a con. Given that Freedom of and from religion is a bedrock principle in America, I don't have a problem with people saying stuff.


He's Indian.

He said Christianity is garbage, putrid nonsense.

Then he said, "Actually, all Abrahamic religions are." What I didn't hear him say was:

Here are some Indians living in the U.S. talking about "eradicating Christianity from the world," calling Jesus "that dead Jew on a stick," a "demon," a "zombie," and a "scammer." @RajeevSharma00 says every single household in Pakistan should be bombed with an Indian missile.

Regardless, it is no more offensive than what was found in several Young republican/Turning Point USA email accounts. There are offensive idiots in every culture.

Also-First Amendment.

What First Amendment?



The man, later identified as Collins, allegedly shoved the friend with both hands and "told him to go back to his country," according to the court documents. Witnesses told officers the incident was "frightening" and described it as an "attack."

Thinking it was the assault, not the language. But nice try.

https://billingsgazette.com/news/state-regional/article_6a19ff73-0c93-57cd-812d-dc7adc783daf.html


There were two separate charges, one of which was for his speech.



What is the source of the graphic? The statute applies to "actions" based on race, creed, color, gender, national origin, or religion. It is likely that the felony is an enhancement of the misdemeanor with the evidence of the hate coming from the statement. The misdememanor would be a lesser-included charge.

The statute would not allow a charge based on the statement alone, because there is a difference between a statement and an action.


I just used Gemini and got the same charges with this prompt:

"what was the jaxton tayte collins charged with by State of Montana?"



Gemini has not bassed the bar exam yet.
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Frank Galvin said:

The_barBEARian said:

Frank Galvin said:

The_barBEARian said:

Frank Galvin said:

The_barBEARian said:

Frank Galvin said:

The_barBEARian said:

Frank Galvin said:

The_barBEARian said:



Didn't get any of that from the attached clip. It sounded like a white guy talking, and his point was that all Abrahamic religions are a con. Given that Freedom of and from religion is a bedrock principle in America, I don't have a problem with people saying stuff.


He's Indian.

He said Christianity is garbage, putrid nonsense.

Then he said, "Actually, all Abrahamic religions are." What I didn't hear him say was:

Here are some Indians living in the U.S. talking about "eradicating Christianity from the world," calling Jesus "that dead Jew on a stick," a "demon," a "zombie," and a "scammer." @RajeevSharma00 says every single household in Pakistan should be bombed with an Indian missile.

Regardless, it is no more offensive than what was found in several Young republican/Turning Point USA email accounts. There are offensive idiots in every culture.

Also-First Amendment.

What First Amendment?



The man, later identified as Collins, allegedly shoved the friend with both hands and "told him to go back to his country," according to the court documents. Witnesses told officers the incident was "frightening" and described it as an "attack."

Thinking it was the assault, not the language. But nice try.

https://billingsgazette.com/news/state-regional/article_6a19ff73-0c93-57cd-812d-dc7adc783daf.html


There were two separate charges, one of which was for his speech.



What is the source of the graphic? The statute applies to "actions" based on race, creed, color, gender, national origin, or religion. It is likely that the felony is an enhancement of the misdemeanor with the evidence of the hate coming from the statement. The misdememanor would be a lesser-included charge.

The statute would not allow a charge based on the statement alone, because there is a difference between a statement and an action.


I just used Gemini and got the same charges with this prompt:

"what was the jaxton tayte collins charged with by State of Montana?"



Gemini has not bassed the bar exam yet.


The charges are black and white.

I wasn't asking AI for legal counsel.
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The_barBEARian said:

Frank Galvin said:

The_barBEARian said:

Frank Galvin said:

The_barBEARian said:

Frank Galvin said:

The_barBEARian said:

Frank Galvin said:

The_barBEARian said:

Frank Galvin said:

The_barBEARian said:



Didn't get any of that from the attached clip. It sounded like a white guy talking, and his point was that all Abrahamic religions are a con. Given that Freedom of and from religion is a bedrock principle in America, I don't have a problem with people saying stuff.


He's Indian.

He said Christianity is garbage, putrid nonsense.

Then he said, "Actually, all Abrahamic religions are." What I didn't hear him say was:

Here are some Indians living in the U.S. talking about "eradicating Christianity from the world," calling Jesus "that dead Jew on a stick," a "demon," a "zombie," and a "scammer." @RajeevSharma00 says every single household in Pakistan should be bombed with an Indian missile.

Regardless, it is no more offensive than what was found in several Young republican/Turning Point USA email accounts. There are offensive idiots in every culture.

Also-First Amendment.

What First Amendment?



The man, later identified as Collins, allegedly shoved the friend with both hands and "told him to go back to his country," according to the court documents. Witnesses told officers the incident was "frightening" and described it as an "attack."

Thinking it was the assault, not the language. But nice try.

https://billingsgazette.com/news/state-regional/article_6a19ff73-0c93-57cd-812d-dc7adc783daf.html


There were two separate charges, one of which was for his speech.



What is the source of the graphic? The statute applies to "actions" based on race, creed, color, gender, national origin, or religion. It is likely that the felony is an enhancement of the misdemeanor with the evidence of the hate coming from the statement. The misdememanor would be a lesser-included charge.

The statute would not allow a charge based on the statement alone, because there is a difference between a statement and an action.


I just used Gemini and got the same charges with this prompt:

"what was the jaxton tayte collins charged with by State of Montana?"



Gemini has not bassed the bar exam yet.


The charges are black and white.

I wasn't asking AI for legal counsel.

You should have. The statement is what makes it a hate crime, but that does not mean he would have been charged with the felony absent the shove. Not everything you read on the internet is 100% correct.
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Frank Galvin said:

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Frank Galvin said:

The_barBEARian said:

Frank Galvin said:

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Frank Galvin said:

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Frank Galvin said:

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Frank Galvin said:

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Didn't get any of that from the attached clip. It sounded like a white guy talking, and his point was that all Abrahamic religions are a con. Given that Freedom of and from religion is a bedrock principle in America, I don't have a problem with people saying stuff.


He's Indian.

He said Christianity is garbage, putrid nonsense.

Then he said, "Actually, all Abrahamic religions are." What I didn't hear him say was:

Here are some Indians living in the U.S. talking about "eradicating Christianity from the world," calling Jesus "that dead Jew on a stick," a "demon," a "zombie," and a "scammer." @RajeevSharma00 says every single household in Pakistan should be bombed with an Indian missile.

Regardless, it is no more offensive than what was found in several Young republican/Turning Point USA email accounts. There are offensive idiots in every culture.

Also-First Amendment.

What First Amendment?



The man, later identified as Collins, allegedly shoved the friend with both hands and "told him to go back to his country," according to the court documents. Witnesses told officers the incident was "frightening" and described it as an "attack."

Thinking it was the assault, not the language. But nice try.

https://billingsgazette.com/news/state-regional/article_6a19ff73-0c93-57cd-812d-dc7adc783daf.html


There were two separate charges, one of which was for his speech.



What is the source of the graphic? The statute applies to "actions" based on race, creed, color, gender, national origin, or religion. It is likely that the felony is an enhancement of the misdemeanor with the evidence of the hate coming from the statement. The misdememanor would be a lesser-included charge.

The statute would not allow a charge based on the statement alone, because there is a difference between a statement and an action.


I just used Gemini and got the same charges with this prompt:

"what was the jaxton tayte collins charged with by State of Montana?"



Gemini has not bassed the bar exam yet.


The charges are black and white.

I wasn't asking AI for legal counsel.

You should have. The statement is what makes it a hate crime, but that does not mean he would have been charged with the felony absent the shove. Not everything you read on the internet is 100% correct.


It that is the case it is a violation of the 1st amendment.

The shove, if it happened, is misdemeanor assault. That is the only charge he is guilty of.
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Didn't get any of that from the attached clip. It sounded like a white guy talking, and his point was that all Abrahamic religions are a con. Given that Freedom of and from religion is a bedrock principle in America, I don't have a problem with people saying stuff.


He's Indian.

He said Christianity is garbage, putrid nonsense.

Then he said, "Actually, all Abrahamic religions are." What I didn't hear him say was:

Here are some Indians living in the U.S. talking about "eradicating Christianity from the world," calling Jesus "that dead Jew on a stick," a "demon," a "zombie," and a "scammer." @RajeevSharma00 says every single household in Pakistan should be bombed with an Indian missile.

Regardless, it is no more offensive than what was found in several Young republican/Turning Point USA email accounts. There are offensive idiots in every culture.

Also-First Amendment.

What First Amendment?



The man, later identified as Collins, allegedly shoved the friend with both hands and "told him to go back to his country," according to the court documents. Witnesses told officers the incident was "frightening" and described it as an "attack."

Thinking it was the assault, not the language. But nice try.

https://billingsgazette.com/news/state-regional/article_6a19ff73-0c93-57cd-812d-dc7adc783daf.html


There were two separate charges, one of which was for his speech.



What is the source of the graphic? The statute applies to "actions" based on race, creed, color, gender, national origin, or religion. It is likely that the felony is an enhancement of the misdemeanor with the evidence of the hate coming from the statement. The misdememanor would be a lesser-included charge.

The statute would not allow a charge based on the statement alone, because there is a difference between a statement and an action.


I just used Gemini and got the same charges with this prompt:

"what was the jaxton tayte collins charged with by State of Montana?"



Gemini has not bassed the bar exam yet.


The charges are black and white.

I wasn't asking AI for legal counsel.

You should have. The statement is what makes it a hate crime, but that does not mean he would have been charged with the felony absent the shove. Not everything you read on the internet is 100% correct.


It that is the case it is a violation of the 1st amendment.

The shove, if it happened, is misdemeanor assault. That is the only charge he is guilty of.

You have also not passed the bar exam. The felony is a hate crime, which is the assault plus the motivation. The speech by itself is not being punished, it is being used as evidence of the motivation.

Wisconsin v. Mitchell is the key SCOTUS decison. Link ia narticle discussing it:

https://verdict.justia.com/2021/08/26/hate-crimes-and-free-speech
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Frank Galvin said:

The_barBEARian said:

Frank Galvin said:

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Frank Galvin said:

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Didn't get any of that from the attached clip. It sounded like a white guy talking, and his point was that all Abrahamic religions are a con. Given that Freedom of and from religion is a bedrock principle in America, I don't have a problem with people saying stuff.


He's Indian.

He said Christianity is garbage, putrid nonsense.

Then he said, "Actually, all Abrahamic religions are." What I didn't hear him say was:

Here are some Indians living in the U.S. talking about "eradicating Christianity from the world," calling Jesus "that dead Jew on a stick," a "demon," a "zombie," and a "scammer." @RajeevSharma00 says every single household in Pakistan should be bombed with an Indian missile.

Regardless, it is no more offensive than what was found in several Young republican/Turning Point USA email accounts. There are offensive idiots in every culture.

Also-First Amendment.

What First Amendment?



The man, later identified as Collins, allegedly shoved the friend with both hands and "told him to go back to his country," according to the court documents. Witnesses told officers the incident was "frightening" and described it as an "attack."

Thinking it was the assault, not the language. But nice try.

https://billingsgazette.com/news/state-regional/article_6a19ff73-0c93-57cd-812d-dc7adc783daf.html


There were two separate charges, one of which was for his speech.



What is the source of the graphic? The statute applies to "actions" based on race, creed, color, gender, national origin, or religion. It is likely that the felony is an enhancement of the misdemeanor with the evidence of the hate coming from the statement. The misdememanor would be a lesser-included charge.

The statute would not allow a charge based on the statement alone, because there is a difference between a statement and an action.


I just used Gemini and got the same charges with this prompt:

"what was the jaxton tayte collins charged with by State of Montana?"



Gemini has not bassed the bar exam yet.


The charges are black and white.

I wasn't asking AI for legal counsel.

You should have. The statement is what makes it a hate crime, but that does not mean he would have been charged with the felony absent the shove. Not everything you read on the internet is 100% correct.


It that is the case it is a violation of the 1st amendment.

The shove, if it happened, is misdemeanor assault. That is the only charge he is guilty of.

You have also not passed the bar exam. The felony is a hate crime, which is the assault plus the motivation. The speech by itself is not being punished, it is being used as evidence of the motivation.


Hate crimes are not constitutional and a violation of the 1st amendment.
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The_barBEARian said:

Frank Galvin said:

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Frank Galvin said:

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Frank Galvin said:

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Didn't get any of that from the attached clip. It sounded like a white guy talking, and his point was that all Abrahamic religions are a con. Given that Freedom of and from religion is a bedrock principle in America, I don't have a problem with people saying stuff.


He's Indian.

He said Christianity is garbage, putrid nonsense.

Then he said, "Actually, all Abrahamic religions are." What I didn't hear him say was:

Here are some Indians living in the U.S. talking about "eradicating Christianity from the world," calling Jesus "that dead Jew on a stick," a "demon," a "zombie," and a "scammer." @RajeevSharma00 says every single household in Pakistan should be bombed with an Indian missile.

Regardless, it is no more offensive than what was found in several Young republican/Turning Point USA email accounts. There are offensive idiots in every culture.

Also-First Amendment.

What First Amendment?



The man, later identified as Collins, allegedly shoved the friend with both hands and "told him to go back to his country," according to the court documents. Witnesses told officers the incident was "frightening" and described it as an "attack."

Thinking it was the assault, not the language. But nice try.

https://billingsgazette.com/news/state-regional/article_6a19ff73-0c93-57cd-812d-dc7adc783daf.html


There were two separate charges, one of which was for his speech.



What is the source of the graphic? The statute applies to "actions" based on race, creed, color, gender, national origin, or religion. It is likely that the felony is an enhancement of the misdemeanor with the evidence of the hate coming from the statement. The misdememanor would be a lesser-included charge.

The statute would not allow a charge based on the statement alone, because there is a difference between a statement and an action.


I just used Gemini and got the same charges with this prompt:

"what was the jaxton tayte collins charged with by State of Montana?"



Gemini has not bassed the bar exam yet.


The charges are black and white.

I wasn't asking AI for legal counsel.

You should have. The statement is what makes it a hate crime, but that does not mean he would have been charged with the felony absent the shove. Not everything you read on the internet is 100% correct.


It that is the case it is a violation of the 1st amendment.

The shove, if it happened, is misdemeanor assault. That is the only charge he is guilty of.

You have also not passed the bar exam. The felony is a hate crime, which is the assault plus the motivation. The speech by itself is not being punished, it is being used as evidence of the motivation.


Hate crimes are not constitutional and a violation of the 1st amendment.

Not according to the Supreme Court.
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Frank Galvin said:

The_barBEARian said:

Frank Galvin said:

The_barBEARian said:

Frank Galvin said:

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Frank Galvin said:

The_barBEARian said:

Frank Galvin said:

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Frank Galvin said:

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Frank Galvin said:

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Didn't get any of that from the attached clip. It sounded like a white guy talking, and his point was that all Abrahamic religions are a con. Given that Freedom of and from religion is a bedrock principle in America, I don't have a problem with people saying stuff.


He's Indian.

He said Christianity is garbage, putrid nonsense.

Then he said, "Actually, all Abrahamic religions are." What I didn't hear him say was:

Here are some Indians living in the U.S. talking about "eradicating Christianity from the world," calling Jesus "that dead Jew on a stick," a "demon," a "zombie," and a "scammer." @RajeevSharma00 says every single household in Pakistan should be bombed with an Indian missile.

Regardless, it is no more offensive than what was found in several Young republican/Turning Point USA email accounts. There are offensive idiots in every culture.

Also-First Amendment.

What First Amendment?



The man, later identified as Collins, allegedly shoved the friend with both hands and "told him to go back to his country," according to the court documents. Witnesses told officers the incident was "frightening" and described it as an "attack."

Thinking it was the assault, not the language. But nice try.

https://billingsgazette.com/news/state-regional/article_6a19ff73-0c93-57cd-812d-dc7adc783daf.html


There were two separate charges, one of which was for his speech.



What is the source of the graphic? The statute applies to "actions" based on race, creed, color, gender, national origin, or religion. It is likely that the felony is an enhancement of the misdemeanor with the evidence of the hate coming from the statement. The misdememanor would be a lesser-included charge.

The statute would not allow a charge based on the statement alone, because there is a difference between a statement and an action.


I just used Gemini and got the same charges with this prompt:

"what was the jaxton tayte collins charged with by State of Montana?"



Gemini has not bassed the bar exam yet.


The charges are black and white.

I wasn't asking AI for legal counsel.

You should have. The statement is what makes it a hate crime, but that does not mean he would have been charged with the felony absent the shove. Not everything you read on the internet is 100% correct.


It that is the case it is a violation of the 1st amendment.

The shove, if it happened, is misdemeanor assault. That is the only charge he is guilty of.

You have also not passed the bar exam. The felony is a hate crime, which is the assault plus the motivation. The speech by itself is not being punished, it is being used as evidence of the motivation.


Hate crimes are not constitutional and a violation of the 1st amendment.

Not according to the Supreme Court.


Supreme Courts reverse bad decisions of previous Supreme Courts all the time.

Recent example being Woe V Wade.
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It was 9-0, and there is no indication that they want to re-examine the issue.
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I havent laughed this hard in twenty years... holy f*** this was funny!

 
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