How Can Anyone Tolerate Such Open Corruption?

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OffshoreBear
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sounds as real as all the made up Trump crap.
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SipEmBears said:



the malodorous mulatto mendicant manchurian marxist mephistopholes is pretty good at the self serving corruption game........

- el UF
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So a random poster on a message board says something without any cites or evidence to support it, didn't even link to where he heard it from, and you believe it. Then someone else comes along and does give a citation with a link, and you're skeptical? Y'all have got to wake up and stop being so gullible.
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He isn't a random poster to me….and that is exactly what these libs do daily.
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Ok, but that doesn't make him any less full of sht. Enjoy your continued stay in lala-land in guess.
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Oldbear83 said:

J.R. said:

Oldbear83 said:

JR has never been, nor is he now, an independent in any real sense of that word

And just how in the eff would you know, Magaturd? Please tell me. Isn't about time for mama to walk out to the mailbox to get the govt cheddar!


Right on cue, feigned anger, an insult and more stale arrogance from JR.

Your posts demonstrate you are a leftist in spirit and character, sir. Just so you know.

flaming leftists. you bet. You are nothing more than a very dumb, Maga RWNJ who loves to tell everyone how they are supposed to according to you. Usually, those types scene is all effed up. Seen it all my life , mainly in church Sunday school.
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J.R. said:

Oldbear83 said:

J.R. said:

Oldbear83 said:

JR has never been, nor is he now, an independent in any real sense of that word

And just how in the eff would you know, Magaturd? Please tell me. Isn't about time for mama to walk out to the mailbox to get the govt cheddar!


Right on cue, feigned anger, an insult and more stale arrogance from JR.

Your posts demonstrate you are a leftist in spirit and character, sir. Just so you know.

flaming leftists. you bet. You are nothing more than a very dumb, Maga RWNJ who loves to tell everyone how they are supposed to according to you. Usually, those types scene is all effed up. Seen it all my life , mainly in church Sunday school.

Thanks for confirming the point, JR.

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Unbelievable levels of corruption since the beginning. Kushner reportedly has an Azerbaijani bank account, and an Israeli one that MBS deposits hundreds of millions into, and that's the tip of the iceberg.

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I'd wonder if that fool Rep Jim Jordan would bother to investigate? He gets his BP maxed out when throwing bombs at his political enemies. I doubt that Kushner is an enemy of Jordan.
Iran has Trump by his pu**y and no way they will let go
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HuMcK said:

Unbelievable levels of corruption since the beginning. Kushner reportedly has an Azerbaijani bank account, and an Israeli one that MBS deposits hundreds of millions into, and that's the tip of the iceberg.


Vanity Fair's latest "smoking gun" on Kushner is a book excerpt where anonymous sources claim Dutch intel watched his phone access imaginary Dubai accounts full of Gulf money that magically detoured through Azerbaijan. No bank records. No statements. No documents. Just some unnamed guy's word.

Kushner and his lawyer say the accounts never existed. After years of investigations, special counsels, leaks, and every media outlet on earth digging through his life, they still have nothing but a fairy tale. Liberals treat "an anonymous source told a guy who wrote a book" as proof of corruption while demanding bank statements from everyone else. Absolute clowns.
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His ex-con Dad taught him well. That's what made him useful to Trump. No ethics.
Iran has Trump by his pu**y and no way they will let go
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If I recall correctly, Trump has been the only president in modern history not to reveal his tax returns. It might be interesting to see his most recent tax returns and then follow the money. (And I bet we could say the same about at least a few others.)
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Aliceinbubbleland said:

His ex-con Dad taught him well. That's what made him useful to Trump. No ethics.
His dad went to prison 20 years ago. Kushner helped deliver the Abraham Accords while you clowns are still hunting for phantom Dubai accounts that don't exist.
If results and zero evidence of corruption equal "no ethics," then keep projecting.
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BUDOS said:

If I recall correctly, Trump has been the only president in modern history not to reveal his tax returns. It might be interesting to see his most recent tax returns and then follow the money. (And I bet we could say the same about at least a few others.)


Trump released his tax returns. Democrats spent years screaming about them, got them, found nothing, and now pretend he never did.
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OffshoreBear said:

BUDOS said:

If I recall correctly, Trump has been the only president in modern history not to reveal his tax returns. It might be interesting to see his most recent tax returns and then follow the money. (And I bet we could say the same about at least a few others.)


Trump released his tax returns. Democrats spent years screaming about them, got them, found nothing, and now pretend he never did.


You can find the official documents here:
https://waysandmeans.house.gov/sites/evo-subsites/waysandmeans.house.gov/files/documents/Trump%20Returns%20-%20Joint%20Committee%20on%20Taxation%20Report.pdf
https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/23462596-trump-tax-returns-2015-2020
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At no point has Trump ever voluntarily released his tax returns or any financial info beyond mandatory disclosures. Those links refer to the Dem-lead Ways and Means committee's redacted release of some limited tax info, and they both now lead to 404 error pages because Trump had them scrubbed.

We did get one glimpse at some leaked tax info, and that's how we learned that Trump had a Chinese bank account that he withdrew $17m from in 2017, while he was POTUS.

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HuMcK said:

At no point has Trump ever voluntarily released his tax returns or any financial info beyond mandatory disclosures. Those links refer to the Dem-lead Ways and Means committee's redacted release of some limited tax info, and they both now lead to 404 error pages because Trump had them scrubbed.

We did get one glimpse at some leaked tax info, and that's how we learned that Trump had a Chinese bank account that he withdrew $17m from in 2017, while he was POTUS.




Democrats spent years and a Supreme Court fight just to get Trump's returns, then released the redacted versions in 2022. Old Ways and Means links going dead is what happens when the site changes hands. Not some grand conspiracy to scrub them.

The "Chinese bank account" was a corporate account under one of his hotel companies. They used it to pay local Chinese taxes while looking at hotel deals that never went anywhere. Trump's people said it sat inactive after 2015. That $17 million number was a 2017 revenue jump in a related company listed as management feesnot some secret cash grab from Beijing while he was in office.

You got the returns. You got the leaks. Still nothing. Just more half-remembered headlines and anonymous vibes.
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I came back to ask ... is this about the former president who started a "foundation" that raised billions from overseas sources and then shut down when his wife lost the presidential primary? I thought so.
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In my opinion Corruption continues to get worse and will continue to do so because too many of us continue to tolerate it rather than vote against it if it's our guy doing it. Then too many overlook it and rationalize why it's wrong but not wrong enough.
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a wise ass uncts opined (in Spanish) 'a poor politician is a poor politician'

where they're D DSA C G R L .....

- el UF

sagassity??!!

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Protection racket? White House docs latest to expose scheme to obstruct Biden corruption probes

Memos show that FBI and State Department acted to prevent a Ukrainian witness from testifying to Senate investigators. This is only the latest evidence of "deep state" intervention making sure investigations into alleged Biden family corruption were stalled or sidetracked.

Substantial evidence gathered over the past four years demonstrates that the federal government, along with congressional and private-sector partners, attempted to shield the Biden family from revelations regarding its foreign business endeavors and Hunter Biden's unlawful actions.

Memos released Thursday by the White House Government Transparency Task Force revealed a new chapter in the saga. They show that the FBI and State Department moved in September 2020 to keep Ukrainian witness Andrii Telizhenko from meeting with Sens. Ron Johnson, R-Wis., and Chuck Grassley, R-Iowa, who were investigating Biden family business in Ukraine and China, Just the News first reported yesterday.

Kept the witness away, smeared him, then punished him
On Sept. 8, 2020, the FBI's Foreign Influence Task Force began preparing a request to revoke Telizhenko's visa, only to find the U.S. Embassy in Kyiv had already done so.

The Department of the Treasury later sanctioned him for election interference, though the CIA had assessed he was, at most, possibly an "unwitting" participant, even though an August 2020 FBI memo showed that Russia had banned him, listed him as a spy, and that he had rebuffed Russian recruiters.

The memos show that the government alleged that Telizhenko was spreading "false claims" that Hunter Biden's service on the board of Ukrainian energy company Burisma Holdings had impacted U.S. policy fighting corruption in Ukraine, as well as repeating that Joe Biden had changed U.S. policy when he withheld $1 billion to force the firing of Ukraine's chief prosecutor who was investigating Burisma.

Both claims turned out to be accurate.

Evidence made public in the years after the 2020 election shows that contrary to assertions of spreading "disinformation," America's top diplomats in Kyiv wrote in internal emails that they believed Hunter Biden's presence on the Burisma board had "undercut" U.S. anti-corruption efforts in Ukraine. The documents also show that State Department officials had recommended giving Ukraine the loan guarantees and keeping the prosecutor in place before Biden reversed course in what has now become known as Biden's "audible."

An "audible" is a term used in American football whereby a spontaneous verbal instruction changes the predetermined play, or completely scraps it for something else.
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e.g.
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Muckraker on Thursday published an election report out of Arizona, using undercover reporters to catch the Democratic Party, nonprofit groups, and labor unions backing Incumbent Governor Katie Hobbs, attempting to illegally register noncitizens and felons to vote.

Muckraker caught multiple Democrat organizations allowing blatant voter fraud.

These suspect groups were caught attempting to register noncitizens to vote and mobilizing noncitizens and felons to vote in the upcoming election.

When Katie Hobbs was confronted with the findings, she ran away from questions.
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File this under the:

If you ain't cheatin' you ain't tryin' and likely ain't ever seen a 'Lina.............

- el UF

D!

Go Bears!!

Beat the 'Hawks!!!
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BUDOS said:

If I recall correctly, Trump has been the only president in modern history not to reveal his tax returns. It might be interesting to see his most recent tax returns and then follow the money. (And I bet we could say the same about at least a few others.)

Some of Trump's were illegally leaked by an IRS official who was fired (& prosecuted?). I don't recall anything scandalous about it except the crime of the illegal leaking and Leftists outraged when a rich man earns money and doesn't give it to them.

Naturally, the Dems have no problems with the millionaires and billionaires on their side: Crazy Bernie, Pritzger, Abdul el-Sayad, Mamdani, "Fauxcahontas", Zuck, Hollywood LWNJ's, LeBron, George Soros, etc.
“Incline my heart to your testimonies, and not to selfish gain!”
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I don't totally disagree with much of your post. Neither do I disagree that some good things have happened under his watch. Overall I have a problem believing he is sincerely committed to putting America first.
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It's reasonable to have doubts based on recent events. I think Trump genuinely wants what is best for the country but he might not define that the same way as the rest of us. His biggest problem, though, is what it always has been: his narcissism.

Like Obama and many other public personalities (politicians, Hollywood, sports stars, etc) he's all into self promotion and rooting us horn. Sometimes it's funny and sometimes it's very cringe. Generally I find it off putting but I also ignore it because of the obvious accomplishments. Right now it seems he might have too much going on to manage it all.
“Incline my heart to your testimonies, and not to selfish gain!”
Psalm 119:36
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historian said:

It's reasonable to have doubts based on recent events. I think Trump genuinely wants what is best for the country but he might not define that the same way as the rest of us. His biggest problem, though, is what it always has been: his narcissism.

Like Obama and many other public personalities (politicians, Hollywood, sports stars, etc) he's all into self promotion and rooting us horn. Sometimes it's funny and sometimes it's very cringe. Generally I find it off putting but I also ignore it because of the obvious accomplishments. Right now it seems he might have too much going on to manage it all.

Oh my Gorsh!!! You mean the Emperor has no clothes? I tip my hat to you, historian, for admitting that maybe Trump has gotten himself in over his head.

Trump 45 was a great President. Trump 47, I believe, will go down as one of the worst.
Call it a tax, the people are outraged! Call it a tariff, the people get out their checkbooks and wave their American flags!!!
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BUDOS said:

I don't totally disagree with much of your post. Neither do I disagree that some good things have happened under his watch. Overall I have a problem believing he is sincerely committed to putting America first.
Are we better off than we were 4 years ago?
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RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

historian said:

It's reasonable to have doubts based on recent events. I think Trump genuinely wants what is best for the country but he might not define that the same way as the rest of us. His biggest problem, though, is what it always has been: his narcissism.

Like Obama and many other public personalities (politicians, Hollywood, sports stars, etc) he's all into self promotion and rooting us horn. Sometimes it's funny and sometimes it's very cringe. Generally I find it off putting but I also ignore it because of the obvious accomplishments. Right now it seems he might have too much going on to manage it all.

Oh my Gorsh!!! You mean the Emperor has no clothes? I tip my hat to you, historian, for admitting that maybe Trump has gotten himself in over his head.

Trump 45 was a great President. Trump 47, I believe, will go down as one of the worst.
give me a break. The amount of improvement in just 2 years under Trump is amazing.

1. Dramatically reduced illegal border crossings.
2. Significant reductions in violent crime and murder rates.
3. Eliminated federal income taxes on qualifying tips and overtime, with additional tax deductions for seniors.
4. Negotiated lower prescription drug prices.
5. Reduced the federal workforce and eliminated unnecessary government spending.
6. Increased enforcement against healthcare fraud and abuse.
7. Reduced federal regulations and compliance costs for businesses.
8. Expanded tax incentives for American manufacturing, investment, and research.
9. Expanded domestic energy production and LNG exports.
10. Secured commitments from NATO allies to significantly increase defense spending.
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OffshoreBear said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

historian said:

It's reasonable to have doubts based on recent events. I think Trump genuinely wants what is best for the country but he might not define that the same way as the rest of us. His biggest problem, though, is what it always has been: his narcissism.

Like Obama and many other public personalities (politicians, Hollywood, sports stars, etc) he's all into self promotion and rooting us horn. Sometimes it's funny and sometimes it's very cringe. Generally I find it off putting but I also ignore it because of the obvious accomplishments. Right now it seems he might have too much going on to manage it all.

Oh my Gorsh!!! You mean the Emperor has no clothes? I tip my hat to you, historian, for admitting that maybe Trump has gotten himself in over his head.

Trump 45 was a great President. Trump 47, I believe, will go down as one of the worst.

give me a break. The amount of improvement in just 2 years under Trump is amazing.

did you take a swinging drill pipe to the noodle???? he's done nothing but eff up everything he touches turns to chit.
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J.R. said:

OffshoreBear said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

historian said:

It's reasonable to have doubts based on recent events. I think Trump genuinely wants what is best for the country but he might not define that the same way as the rest of us. His biggest problem, though, is what it always has been: his narcissism.

Like Obama and many other public personalities (politicians, Hollywood, sports stars, etc) he's all into self promotion and rooting us horn. Sometimes it's funny and sometimes it's very cringe. Generally I find it off putting but I also ignore it because of the obvious accomplishments. Right now it seems he might have too much going on to manage it all.

Oh my Gorsh!!! You mean the Emperor has no clothes? I tip my hat to you, historian, for admitting that maybe Trump has gotten himself in over his head.

Trump 45 was a great President. Trump 47, I believe, will go down as one of the worst.

give me a break. The amount of improvement in just 2 years under Trump is amazing.

did you take a swinging drill pipe to the noodle???? he's done nothing but eff up everything he touches turns to chit.
list them lady boy
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OffshoreBear said:

J.R. said:

OffshoreBear said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

historian said:

It's reasonable to have doubts based on recent events. I think Trump genuinely wants what is best for the country but he might not define that the same way as the rest of us. His biggest problem, though, is what it always has been: his narcissism.

Like Obama and many other public personalities (politicians, Hollywood, sports stars, etc) he's all into self promotion and rooting us horn. Sometimes it's funny and sometimes it's very cringe. Generally I find it off putting but I also ignore it because of the obvious accomplishments. Right now it seems he might have too much going on to manage it all.

Oh my Gorsh!!! You mean the Emperor has no clothes? I tip my hat to you, historian, for admitting that maybe Trump has gotten himself in over his head.

Trump 45 was a great President. Trump 47, I believe, will go down as one of the worst.

give me a break. The amount of improvement in just 2 years under Trump is amazing.

did you take a swinging drill pipe to the noodle???? he's done nothing but eff up everything he touches turns to chit.

list them lady boy

I don't even remember seeing you around here, Captain Coverall, , so you will fit right in hurling insults with no basis. (Trumpian)do know anyone named that Dr. Redneck. Zero objectives achieved in 1 man's war, no plan, can't get out. Inflation...yeah , tariffs really working. all prices up including gasoline and diesel . Diminished our standing in the world. Eroded trust with our friends and allies. Killing people in the streets ICEstoppo. Things seem going really well. Get back to the dog house and eat your samich.
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The other day he interrupted a Michigan rally for Mike Rogers to denounce Norway as a "s***house country" whose immigrants were no longer welcome in America not for some entirely understandable reason like the creation of lutefisk, but rather "because I didn't get the Nobel Prize."
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J.R. said:

OffshoreBear said:

J.R. said:

OffshoreBear said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

historian said:

It's reasonable to have doubts based on recent events. I think Trump genuinely wants what is best for the country but he might not define that the same way as the rest of us. His biggest problem, though, is what it always has been: his narcissism.

Like Obama and many other public personalities (politicians, Hollywood, sports stars, etc) he's all into self promotion and rooting us horn. Sometimes it's funny and sometimes it's very cringe. Generally I find it off putting but I also ignore it because of the obvious accomplishments. Right now it seems he might have too much going on to manage it all.

Oh my Gorsh!!! You mean the Emperor has no clothes? I tip my hat to you, historian, for admitting that maybe Trump has gotten himself in over his head.

Trump 45 was a great President. Trump 47, I believe, will go down as one of the worst.

give me a break. The amount of improvement in just 2 years under Trump is amazing.

did you take a swinging drill pipe to the noodle???? he's done nothing but eff up everything he touches turns to chit.

list them lady boy

I don't even remember seeing you around here, Captain Coverall, , so you will fit right in hurling insults with no basis. (Trumpian)do know anyone named that Dr. Redneck. Zero objectives achieved in 1 man's war, no plan, can't get out. Inflation...yeah , tariffs really working. all prices up including gasoline and diesel . Diminished our standing in the world. Eroded trust with our friends and allies. Killing people in the streets ICEstoppo. Things seem going really well. Get back to the dog house and eat your samich.



Funny how you complain about insults while spending half your post calling people names. I listed ten specific accomplishments, not a claim that every problem in America has been solved.

Border apprehensions are down 94% from the Biden-era monthly average. The FBI reports violent crime fell 9.3% and murders dropped 18.1% in 2025. Tax deductions for qualifying tips and overtime are now law. NATO allies agreed to significantly increase defense spending. Those are documented facts, whether you like Trump or not.

I'll give you inflation and fuel prices. They're legitimate problems, and Iran is certainly worth debating. But none of that erases the other results.

If you think my list is wrong, pick a specific item and explain why. Throwing around insults and political talking points isn't much of a rebuttal.
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OffshoreBear said:

J.R. said:

OffshoreBear said:

J.R. said:

OffshoreBear said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

historian said:

It's reasonable to have doubts based on recent events. I think Trump genuinely wants what is best for the country but he might not define that the same way as the rest of us. His biggest problem, though, is what it always has been: his narcissism.

Like Obama and many other public personalities (politicians, Hollywood, sports stars, etc) he's all into self promotion and rooting us horn. Sometimes it's funny and sometimes it's very cringe. Generally I find it off putting but I also ignore it because of the obvious accomplishments. Right now it seems he might have too much going on to manage it all.

Oh my Gorsh!!! You mean the Emperor has no clothes? I tip my hat to you, historian, for admitting that maybe Trump has gotten himself in over his head.

Trump 45 was a great President. Trump 47, I believe, will go down as one of the worst.

give me a break. The amount of improvement in just 2 years under Trump is amazing.

did you take a swinging drill pipe to the noodle???? he's done nothing but eff up everything he touches turns to chit.

list them lady boy

I don't even remember seeing you around here, Captain Coverall, , so you will fit right in hurling insults with no basis. (Trumpian)do know anyone named that Dr. Redneck. Zero objectives achieved in 1 man's war, no plan, can't get out. Inflation...yeah , tariffs really working. all prices up including gasoline and diesel . Diminished our standing in the world. Eroded trust with our friends and allies. Killing people in the streets ICEstoppo. Things seem going really well. Get back to the dog house and eat your samich.



Funny how you complain about insults while spending half your post calling people names. I listed ten specific accomplishments, not a claim that every problem in America has been solved.

Border apprehensions are down 94% from the Biden-era monthly average. The FBI reports violent crime fell 9.3% and murders dropped 18.1% in 2025. Tax deductions for qualifying tips and overtime are now law. NATO allies agreed to significantly increase defense spending. Those are documented facts, whether you like Trump or not.

I'll give you inflation and fuel prices. They're legitimate problems, and Iran is certainly worth debating. But none of that erases the other results.

If you think my list is wrong, pick a specific item and explain why. Throwing around insults and political talking points isn't much of a rebuttal.

how's the war. For the record, I don't get in the mud name calling unless one of you rubes goes after me personally, you will get major pushback. Did you change your user name? How is the War, inflation, election working for you RWNJ types. Looks pretty effed up to me. But, then again, I don't carry a torch for any party, particularly the Trump Party. Grab your nuts fella, your team will be hammered because of gold Jesus. period.
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J.R. said:

OffshoreBear said:

J.R. said:

OffshoreBear said:

J.R. said:

OffshoreBear said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

historian said:

It's reasonable to have doubts based on recent events. I think Trump genuinely wants what is best for the country but he might not define that the same way as the rest of us. His biggest problem, though, is what it always has been: his narcissism.

Like Obama and many other public personalities (politicians, Hollywood, sports stars, etc) he's all into self promotion and rooting us horn. Sometimes it's funny and sometimes it's very cringe. Generally I find it off putting but I also ignore it because of the obvious accomplishments. Right now it seems he might have too much going on to manage it all.

Oh my Gorsh!!! You mean the Emperor has no clothes? I tip my hat to you, historian, for admitting that maybe Trump has gotten himself in over his head.

Trump 45 was a great President. Trump 47, I believe, will go down as one of the worst.

give me a break. The amount of improvement in just 2 years under Trump is amazing.

did you take a swinging drill pipe to the noodle???? he's done nothing but eff up everything he touches turns to chit.

list them lady boy

I don't even remember seeing you around here, Captain Coverall, , so you will fit right in hurling insults with no basis. (Trumpian)do know anyone named that Dr. Redneck. Zero objectives achieved in 1 man's war, no plan, can't get out. Inflation...yeah , tariffs really working. all prices up including gasoline and diesel . Diminished our standing in the world. Eroded trust with our friends and allies. Killing people in the streets ICEstoppo. Things seem going really well. Get back to the dog house and eat your samich.



Funny how you complain about insults while spending half your post calling people names. I listed ten specific accomplishments, not a claim that every problem in America has been solved.

Border apprehensions are down 94% from the Biden-era monthly average. The FBI reports violent crime fell 9.3% and murders dropped 18.1% in 2025. Tax deductions for qualifying tips and overtime are now law. NATO allies agreed to significantly increase defense spending. Those are documented facts, whether you like Trump or not.

I'll give you inflation and fuel prices. They're legitimate problems, and Iran is certainly worth debating. But none of that erases the other results.

If you think my list is wrong, pick a specific item and explain why. Throwing around insults and political talking points isn't much of a rebuttal.

how's the war. For the record, I don't get in the mud name calling unless one of you rubes goes after me personally, you will get major pushback. Did you change your user name? How is the War, inflation, election working for you RWNJ types. Looks pretty effed up to me. But, then again, I don't carry a torch for any party, particularly the Trump Party. Grab your nuts fella, your team will be hammered because of gold Jesus. period.


For someone who claims he doesn't engage in name calling or carry a torch for any political party, you sure spend a lot of time doing both.

As for Iran, the conflict isn't over, and I've never claimed otherwise. I believe preventing Iran from developing nuclear weapons is worth pursuing, but the results still need to be judged. Inflation caused by Biden and fuel prices are legitimate concerns. Gas isn't expensive her (3.30 yesterday).

And the election? It hasn't even happened yet, so maybe save the victory speech.

The funny thing is, I gave you ten specific accomplishments, and you've yet to dispute a single one with an actual fact. Instead, you keep changing the subject and throwing around insults.

You don't have to like Trump. I certainly don't agree with everything he does. But refusing to acknowledge anything positive simply because you dislike the man isn't exactly objective thinking.
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OffshoreBear said:

J.R. said:

OffshoreBear said:

J.R. said:

OffshoreBear said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

historian said:

It's reasonable to have doubts based on recent events. I think Trump genuinely wants what is best for the country but he might not define that the same way as the rest of us. His biggest problem, though, is what it always has been: his narcissism.

Like Obama and many other public personalities (politicians, Hollywood, sports stars, etc) he's all into self promotion and rooting us horn. Sometimes it's funny and sometimes it's very cringe. Generally I find it off putting but I also ignore it because of the obvious accomplishments. Right now it seems he might have too much going on to manage it all.

Oh my Gorsh!!! You mean the Emperor has no clothes? I tip my hat to you, historian, for admitting that maybe Trump has gotten himself in over his head.

Trump 45 was a great President. Trump 47, I believe, will go down as one of the worst.

give me a break. The amount of improvement in just 2 years under Trump is amazing.

did you take a swinging drill pipe to the noodle???? he's done nothing but eff up everything he touches turns to chit.

list them lady boy

I don't even remember seeing you around here, Captain Coverall, , so you will fit right in hurling insults with no basis. (Trumpian)do know anyone named that Dr. Redneck. Zero objectives achieved in 1 man's war, no plan, can't get out. Inflation...yeah , tariffs really working. all prices up including gasoline and diesel . Diminished our standing in the world. Eroded trust with our friends and allies. Killing people in the streets ICEstoppo. Things seem going really well. Get back to the dog house and eat your samich.



Funny how you complain about insults while spending half your post calling people names. I listed ten specific accomplishments, not a claim that every problem in America has been solved.

Border apprehensions are down 94% from the Biden-era monthly average. The FBI reports violent crime fell 9.3% and murders dropped 18.1% in 2025. Tax deductions for qualifying tips and overtime are now law. NATO allies agreed to significantly increase defense spending. Those are documented facts, whether you like Trump or not.

I'll give you inflation and fuel prices. They're legitimate problems, and Iran is certainly worth debating. But none of that erases the other results.

If you think my list is wrong, pick a specific item and explain why. Throwing around insults and political talking points isn't much of a rebuttal.
Outside of the border achievement, the rest are mostly superficial or political give aways. Crime trends were already falling. NATO spending of European allies is mostly infrastructure and health and welfare expenditures. In fact there's been a decline in NATO and allied nations new purchase of U.S. weaponry, an unintended consequence of the "FU allies" approach of this administration. This in the midst of an active war in the theater. And it's hard to brag about regulatory reductions while simultaneously overlaying one of the largest and broadest tariff schemes in the history of the United States. So, border policy - amazing. The rest - meh.
 
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