Illhan Omar's home raided by the FBI and DOJ

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J.R.
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Johnny Bear said:

J.R. said:

Let's take a closer look at that Hooker/Escort First Lady of our and her immigration status and was it legal. Viva la Tart!

Now Junior, have you already forgotten that when you dumocrats last had power your President Auto Pen's wesponized DOJ raided her home (even rummaged her underwear drawer) based on manufactured charges and of course everything ultimately fell apart in court. And I assure you with all of the exhaustive investigations of Trump and his family, if the First Lady had any immigration issues we would all know about it.

Now, it's time for your TDS meds, and don't forget to call your psychiatrist in the morning.

yeah right son. Let's get the Escort's immigration vetted in public. I guess we'd have to get her back to DC where she does NOT live. Viva la Eastern Block Escorts! Hey bitter Biden isn't President. This 100% The Piggy Show, period. So, you good with that tart Kimberly Guilfoyle shaking down a doner for a $100K to pay her AMEX bill. LOL. Only the best people......for Greece!
GrowlTowel
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fubar said:

Johnny Bear said:

fubar said:

It does no such thing.

Charge her. We'll see how "compelling" whatever evidence they uncovered is at trial.

Yes, we will - and I look forward to her being held to account in court.

If Omar is re-elected, shouldn't the investigation be dropped? And the results to date sealed? Gag order?

There is a precedent for such, you know.

But we'll see. If she is acquitted -- of whatever TRUMP has in mind -- will you accept that she's been totally exonerated? If nothing against her moves forward, will you admit that this whole thing is a sham?

Why doesn't your party simply kick her out of the party?

She is toxic, anti-American, and much further left of the moderates your party claims to be.
Wangchung
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I'm old enough to remember Republicans having their emails, phone calls, texts, hell their entire lives turned upside down by democrats investigating jAnUaRY 6th.
Our vibrations were getting nasty. But why? I was puzzled, frustrated... Had we deteriorated to the level of dumb beasts?

Danielsjackson114
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Yes, she came to America to defraud it
Johnny Bear
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fubar said:

Johnny Bear said:

fubar said:

It does no such thing.

Charge her. We'll see how "compelling" whatever evidence they uncovered is at trial.

Yes, we will - and I look forward to her being held to account in court.

If Omar is re-elected, shouldn't the investigation be dropped? And the results to date sealed? Gag order?

There is a precedent for such, you know.

But we'll see. If she is acquitted -- of whatever TRUMP has in mind -- will you accept that she's been totally exonerated? If nothing against her moves forward, will you admit that this whole thing is a sham?

If she is guilty of crimes - and at a minimum there is enough evidence she is to get a democrat judge to sign off on one of her homes getting raided - she should be held fully accountable regardless of the outcome of her upcoming election. Period. I don't and shouldn't care about any alleged "precedent".
Johnny Bear
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J.R. said:

Johnny Bear said:

J.R. said:

Let's take a closer look at that Hooker/Escort First Lady of our and her immigration status and was it legal. Viva la Tart!

Now Junior, have you already forgotten that when you dumocrats last had power your President Auto Pen's wesponized DOJ raided her home (even rummaged her underwear drawer) based on manufactured charges and of course everything ultimately fell apart in court. And I assure you with all of the exhaustive investigations of Trump and his family, if the First Lady had any immigration issues we would all know about it.

Now, it's time for your TDS meds, and don't forget to call your psychiatrist in the morning.

yeah right son. Let's get the Escort's immigration vetted in public. I guess we'd have to get her back to DC where she does NOT live. Viva la Eastern Block Escorts! Hey bitter Biden isn't President. This 100% The Piggy Show, period. So, you good with that tart Kimberly Guilfoyle shaking down a doner for a $100K to pay her AMEX bill. LOL. Only the best people......for Greece!

Guilfoyle has been asked to resign. Unlike what happens with your party, she's being held accountable.
fubar
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Johnny Bear said:

fubar said:

Johnny Bear said:

fubar said:

It does no such thing.

Charge her. We'll see how "compelling" whatever evidence they uncovered is at trial.

Yes, we will - and I look forward to her being held to account in court.

If Omar is re-elected, shouldn't the investigation be dropped? And the results to date sealed? Gag order?

There is a precedent for such, you know.

But we'll see. If she is acquitted -- of whatever TRUMP has in mind -- will you accept that she's been totally exonerated? If nothing against her moves forward, will you admit that this whole thing is a sham?

If she is guilty of crimes - and at a minimum there is enough evidence she is to get a democrat judge to sign off on one of her homes getting raided - she should be held fully accountable regardless of the outcome of her upcoming election. Period. I don't and shouldn't care about any alleged "precedent".

The precedent is your President. I'm glad to see that you're coming around to the idea that HE should be held accountable.

The cases did not "fall apart in court," as you claimed. When TRUMP was re-elected, Jack Smith dropped multiple court cases involving HIM. The facts never got to see the light of day. In Judge Cannon's court, Smith's report is sealed and gag orders issued.

As to Omar, I have no idea what judge signed off on the warrant. But that's what judges routinely do. The government presents the request with some background info. No judge -- or attorney, for that matter-- would claim that signing off on a warrant is remotely evidence of guilt.

The oddest thing about this case is that the warrant was executed three weeks before the election. Makes me think the TRUMP Administration is trying to affect the outcome with this and/or intimidate Omar. She is no threat to flee prosecution. TRUMP says HE had nothing to do with it.

I don't believe HIM. Do you?
fubar
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GrowlTowel said:

fubar said:

Johnny Bear said:

fubar said:

It does no such thing.

Charge her. We'll see how "compelling" whatever evidence they uncovered is at trial.

Yes, we will - and I look forward to her being held to account in court.

If Omar is re-elected, shouldn't the investigation be dropped? And the results to date sealed? Gag order?

There is a precedent for such, you know.

But we'll see. If she is acquitted -- of whatever TRUMP has in mind -- will you accept that she's been totally exonerated? If nothing against her moves forward, will you admit that this whole thing is a sham?

Why doesn't your party simply kick her out of the party?

She is toxic, anti-American, and much further left of the moderates your party claims to be.


It's not my party. I'll be voting Dem in both Congressional seats up this year. State and local, a mix.

But I'm independent and have been for a decade now.
fubar
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Johnny Bear said:

J.R. said:

Johnny Bear said:

J.R. said:

Let's take a closer look at that Hooker/Escort First Lady of our and her immigration status and was it legal. Viva la Tart!

Now Junior, have you already forgotten that when you dumocrats last had power your President Auto Pen's wesponized DOJ raided her home (even rummaged her underwear drawer) based on manufactured charges and of course everything ultimately fell apart in court. And I assure you with all of the exhaustive investigations of Trump and his family, if the First Lady had any immigration issues we would all know about it.

Now, it's time for your TDS meds, and don't forget to call your psychiatrist in the morning.

yeah right son. Let's get the Escort's immigration vetted in public. I guess we'd have to get her back to DC where she does NOT live. Viva la Eastern Block Escorts! Hey bitter Biden isn't President. This 100% The Piggy Show, period. So, you good with that tart Kimberly Guilfoyle shaking down a doner for a $100K to pay her AMEX bill. LOL. Only the best people......for Greece!

Guilfoyle has been asked to resign. Unlike what happens with your party, she's being held accountable.

Uh ... what?

Al Franken? Andrew Cuomo? Didn't Fox News tell you about them?
Oldbear83
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Votes Democrat, pretends to be 'independent'.

That's the Left these days!
Johnny Bear
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fubar said:

GrowlTowel said:

fubar said:

Johnny Bear said:

fubar said:

It does no such thing.

Charge her. We'll see how "compelling" whatever evidence they uncovered is at trial.

Yes, we will - and I look forward to her being held to account in court.

If Omar is re-elected, shouldn't the investigation be dropped? And the results to date sealed? Gag order?

There is a precedent for such, you know.

But we'll see. If she is acquitted -- of whatever TRUMP has in mind -- will you accept that she's been totally exonerated? If nothing against her moves forward, will you admit that this whole thing is a sham?

Why doesn't your party simply kick her out of the party?

She is toxic, anti-American, and much further left of the moderates your party claims to be.


It's not my party. I'll be voting Dem in both Congressional seats up this year. State and local, a mix.

But I'm independent and have been for a decade now.

LOL - yeah right.

Why are so many of you lefties so ashamed or embarrassed to just admit what you are? You 're just like most of your candidates who repeatedly lie and claim they really didn't mean multiple things they're on record saying and doing a 180 on multiple policy positions they've previously held when a general election rolls around. What a bunch of fakes and frauds.
Danielsjackson114
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That's all liberals on here
J.R.
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fubar said:

GrowlTowel said:

fubar said:

Johnny Bear said:

fubar said:

It does no such thing.

Charge her. We'll see how "compelling" whatever evidence they uncovered is at trial.

Yes, we will - and I look forward to her being held to account in court.

If Omar is re-elected, shouldn't the investigation be dropped? And the results to date sealed? Gag order?

There is a precedent for such, you know.

But we'll see. If she is acquitted -- of whatever TRUMP has in mind -- will you accept that she's been totally exonerated? If nothing against her moves forward, will you admit that this whole thing is a sham?

Why doesn't your party simply kick her out of the party?

She is toxic, anti-American, and much further left of the moderates your party claims to be.


It's not my party. I'll be voting Dem in both Congressional seats up this year. State and local, a mix.

But I'm independent and have been for a decade now.

you just can't be Independent! Haven't you heard from our resident MAGGOT trolls that if you are Independent , you are nothing more than a flaming liberal. You MUST swear allegiance to a Party, period. None of this voting for the best qualified and not sticking to a TRIBE. You sir are a Sellout and we welcome a thinking person!!
J.R.
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Johnny Bear said:

fubar said:

GrowlTowel said:

fubar said:

Johnny Bear said:

fubar said:

It does no such thing.

Charge her. We'll see how "compelling" whatever evidence they uncovered is at trial.

Yes, we will - and I look forward to her being held to account in court.

If Omar is re-elected, shouldn't the investigation be dropped? And the results to date sealed? Gag order?

There is a precedent for such, you know.

But we'll see. If she is acquitted -- of whatever TRUMP has in mind -- will you accept that she's been totally exonerated? If nothing against her moves forward, will you admit that this whole thing is a sham?

Why doesn't your party simply kick her out of the party?

She is toxic, anti-American, and much further left of the moderates your party claims to be.


It's not my party. I'll be voting Dem in both Congressional seats up this year. State and local, a mix.

But I'm independent and have been for a decade now.

LOL - yeah right.

Why are so many of you lefties so ashamed or embarrassed to just admit what you are? You 're just like most of your candidates who repeatedly lie and claim they really didn't mean multiple things they're on record saying and doing a 180 on multiple policy positions they've previously held when a general election rolls around. What a bunch of fakes and frauds.

Little Johnny, you are just a freak and make **** up as you just did. You and the rest of the Trumpians till death, ie LJ, Teacherman, bitter bean counter and nothing more than serious outliers . How your parties war to play that game? Seriously, how's the economy? How's the war?, Inflation? That is 100% on yall Rs. Piggy is done and so are all your freaky friends in MAga
fubar
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Danielsjackson114 said:

Remember when baby jr played off as a conservative but he moved to Thailand to touch underage children

That's a pretty serious accusation. You ought to be ashamed of yourself.
BearFan33
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Democrats complaining about Lawfare. Give me a break. What goes around comes around. In addition to immigration fraud it looks like Omar is deeply involved in Somali fraud in Minn (and prob elsewhere).
Osodecentx
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BearFan33 said:

Democrats complaining about Lawfare. Give me a break. What goes around comes around.

What is the O/U on the number of subpoenas the Democrat Congress is going to issue to the Trump family businesses
EatMoreSalmon
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fubar said:

Johnny Bear said:

fubar said:

It does no such thing.

Charge her. We'll see how "compelling" whatever evidence they uncovered is at trial.

Yes, we will - and I look forward to her being held to account in court.

If Omar is re-elected, shouldn't the investigation be dropped? And the results to date sealed? Gag order?

There is a precedent for such, you know.

But we'll see. If she is acquitted -- of whatever TRUMP has in mind -- will you accept that she's been totally exonerated? If nothing against her moves forward, will you admit that this whole thing is a sham?


I don't think Immigration issues and financial fraud are covered under "official acts" of any office. The handling of documents very well could be, but perhaps not always. Biden's document case could have helped clarify that, but his DOJ declined to proceed based on the mental state of the defendant.
EatMoreSalmon
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The real problem I see is that there is a high likelihood that any case may take forever to reach a court no matter how much evidence there is. Too many times the process is the punishment, which is the point of state laws promising a "swift" trial by jury to protect against such. If there is anything there, it needs to proceed as swiftly as reasonably possible to protect the defendant and the tax payers and - in this case - the voters either way.
fubar
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EatMoreSalmon said:

The real problem I see is that there is a high likelihood that any case may take forever to reach a court no matter how much evidence there is. Too many times the process is the punishment, which is the point of state laws promising a "swift" trial by jury to protect against such. If there is anything there, it needs to proceed as swiftly as reasonably possible to protect the defendant and the tax payers and - in this case - the voters either way.

Swift trial is solely the right of the defendant.
fubar
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EatMoreSalmon said:

fubar said:

Johnny Bear said:

fubar said:

It does no such thing.

Charge her. We'll see how "compelling" whatever evidence they uncovered is at trial.

Yes, we will - and I look forward to her being held to account in court.

If Omar is re-elected, shouldn't the investigation be dropped? And the results to date sealed? Gag order?

There is a precedent for such, you know.

But we'll see. If she is acquitted -- of whatever TRUMP has in mind -- will you accept that she's been totally exonerated? If nothing against her moves forward, will you admit that this whole thing is a sham?


I don't think Immigration issues and financial fraud are covered under "official acts" of any office. The handling of documents very well could be, but perhaps not always. Biden's document case could have helped clarify that, but his DOJ declined to proceed based on the mental state of the defendant.

Whether taking classified documents or inciting a riot is an "official act" wasn't the point. A possible defense? Sure.

But the cases went away simply because TRUMP was re-elected. I believe that was the correct decision, though it frustrates me to no end.

So why shouldn't Omar be given the same opportunity?
Johnny Bear
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J.R. said:

Johnny Bear said:

fubar said:

GrowlTowel said:

fubar said:

Johnny Bear said:

fubar said:

It does no such thing.

Charge her. We'll see how "compelling" whatever evidence they uncovered is at trial.

Yes, we will - and I look forward to her being held to account in court.

If Omar is re-elected, shouldn't the investigation be dropped? And the results to date sealed? Gag order?

There is a precedent for such, you know.

But we'll see. If she is acquitted -- of whatever TRUMP has in mind -- will you accept that she's been totally exonerated? If nothing against her moves forward, will you admit that this whole thing is a sham?

Why doesn't your party simply kick her out of the party?

She is toxic, anti-American, and much further left of the moderates your party claims to be.


It's not my party. I'll be voting Dem in both Congressional seats up this year. State and local, a mix.

But I'm independent and have been for a decade now.

LOL - yeah right.

Why are so many of you lefties so ashamed or embarrassed to just admit what you are? You 're just like most of your candidates who repeatedly lie and claim they really didn't mean multiple things they're on record saying and doing a 180 on multiple policy positions they've previously held when a general election rolls around. What a bunch of fakes and frauds.

Little Johnny, you are just a freak and make **** up as you just did. You and the rest of the Trumpians till death, ie LJ, Teacherman, bitter bean counter and nothing more than serious outliers . How your parties war to play that game? Seriously, how's the economy? How's the war?, Inflation? That is 100% on yall Rs. Piggy is done and so are all your freaky friends in MAga

"How your parties war to play that game?". Huh???

Why do most of your posts read like they were written by a drunk 5th grade drop out? And to all the drunk 5th grade dropouts out there, I apologize for insulting you in the previous sentence.

By the way, the economy is better than your boy Auto Pen could have ever hoped for, and inflation (again caused by your man, Dementia Joe) is better also and will improve further after the action in the Middle East is finally resolved. The border is sealed and more secure than ever - no more millions of unvetted illegals being released into the country to cause havoc and leach off taxpayers as would've been the case if your gal Kommiela had been elected.

I know it angers you lefties that the President didn't just continue to kick the Iran can down the road, but I'm pretty happy my kids and grandkids won't have to deal with a nuclear Iran like they would have to do if your party had its way.

And as a final point funny how us "outliers" are the majority, isn't it? Now get back to binge watching MSNOW so you'll have material for your next post. And when you write it, please do your best to at least sound like you might have made it through the seventh grade.
Mitch Blood Green
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Johnny Bear said:

J.R. said:

Johnny Bear said:

J.R. said:

Let's take a closer look at that Hooker/Escort First Lady of our and her immigration status and was it legal. Viva la Tart!

Now Junior, have you already forgotten that when you dumocrats last had power your President Auto Pen's wesponized DOJ raided her home (even rummaged her underwear drawer) based on manufactured charges and of course everything ultimately fell apart in court. And I assure you with all of the exhaustive investigations of Trump and his family, if the First Lady had any immigration issues we would all know about it.

Now, it's time for your TDS meds, and don't forget to call your psychiatrist in the morning.

yeah right son. Let's get the Escort's immigration vetted in public. I guess we'd have to get her back to DC where she does NOT live. Viva la Eastern Block Escorts! Hey bitter Biden isn't President. This 100% The Piggy Show, period. So, you good with that tart Kimberly Guilfoyle shaking down a doner for a $100K to pay her AMEX bill. LOL. Only the best people......for Greece!

Guilfoyle has been asked to resign. Unlike what happens with your party, she's being held accountable.


Trump will fire a woman. I'd rethink this post. Two words Max Miller.
Mitch Blood Green
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fubar said:

EatMoreSalmon said:

fubar said:

Johnny Bear said:

fubar said:

It does no such thing.

Charge her. We'll see how "compelling" whatever evidence they uncovered is at trial.

Yes, we will - and I look forward to her being held to account in court.

If Omar is re-elected, shouldn't the investigation be dropped? And the results to date sealed? Gag order?

There is a precedent for such, you know.

But we'll see. If she is acquitted -- of whatever TRUMP has in mind -- will you accept that she's been totally exonerated? If nothing against her moves forward, will you admit that this whole thing is a sham?


I don't think Immigration issues and financial fraud are covered under "official acts" of any office. The handling of documents very well could be, but perhaps not always. Biden's document case could have helped clarify that, but his DOJ declined to proceed based on the mental state of the defendant.

Whether taking classified documents or inciting a riot is an "official act" wasn't the point. A possible defense? Sure.

But the cases went away simply because TRUMP was re-elected. I believe that was the correct decision, though it frustrates me to no end.

So why shouldn't Omar be given the same opportunity?


It definitely poops of the idea of "No One is above the law"

I saw the pictures. Trump did that *****
EatMoreSalmon
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fubar said:

EatMoreSalmon said:

The real problem I see is that there is a high likelihood that any case may take forever to reach a court no matter how much evidence there is. Too many times the process is the punishment, which is the point of state laws promising a "swift" trial by jury to protect against such. If there is anything there, it needs to proceed as swiftly as reasonably possible to protect the defendant and the tax payers and - in this case - the voters either way.

Swift trial is solely the right of the defendant.


Hence "reasonably possible." But defendants do not get unlimited stalls, or nothing would ever get to trial.
EatMoreSalmon
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fubar said:

EatMoreSalmon said:

fubar said:

Johnny Bear said:

fubar said:

It does no such thing.

Charge her. We'll see how "compelling" whatever evidence they uncovered is at trial.

Yes, we will - and I look forward to her being held to account in court.

If Omar is re-elected, shouldn't the investigation be dropped? And the results to date sealed? Gag order?

There is a precedent for such, you know.

But we'll see. If she is acquitted -- of whatever TRUMP has in mind -- will you accept that she's been totally exonerated? If nothing against her moves forward, will you admit that this whole thing is a sham?


I don't think Immigration issues and financial fraud are covered under "official acts" of any office. The handling of documents very well could be, but perhaps not always. Biden's document case could have helped clarify that, but his DOJ declined to proceed based on the mental state of the defendant.

Whether taking classified documents or inciting a riot is an "official act" wasn't the point. A possible defense? Sure.

But the cases went away simply because TRUMP was re-elected. I believe that was the correct decision, though it frustrates me to no end.

So why shouldn't Omar be given the same opportunity?


The Supreme Court review of Trump and Smith did have official act as an issue.
EatMoreSalmon
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Mitch Blood Green said:

Johnny Bear said:

J.R. said:

Johnny Bear said:

J.R. said:

Let's take a closer look at that Hooker/Escort First Lady of our and her immigration status and was it legal. Viva la Tart!

Now Junior, have you already forgotten that when you dumocrats last had power your President Auto Pen's wesponized DOJ raided her home (even rummaged her underwear drawer) based on manufactured charges and of course everything ultimately fell apart in court. And I assure you with all of the exhaustive investigations of Trump and his family, if the First Lady had any immigration issues we would all know about it.

Now, it's time for your TDS meds, and don't forget to call your psychiatrist in the morning.

yeah right son. Let's get the Escort's immigration vetted in public. I guess we'd have to get her back to DC where she does NOT live. Viva la Eastern Block Escorts! Hey bitter Biden isn't President. This 100% The Piggy Show, period. So, you good with that tart Kimberly Guilfoyle shaking down a doner for a $100K to pay her AMEX bill. LOL. Only the best people......for Greece!

Guilfoyle has been asked to resign. Unlike what happens with your party, she's being held accountable.


Trump will fire a woman. I'd rethink this post. Two words Max Miller.


I don't believe Trump or anyone but the voters in Ohio can fire Max. He can certainly lose support, but that's about it.
fubar
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EatMoreSalmon said:

fubar said:

EatMoreSalmon said:

The real problem I see is that there is a high likelihood that any case may take forever to reach a court no matter how much evidence there is. Too many times the process is the punishment, which is the point of state laws promising a "swift" trial by jury to protect against such. If there is anything there, it needs to proceed as swiftly as reasonably possible to protect the defendant and the tax payers and - in this case - the voters either way.

Swift trial is solely the right of the defendant.


Hence "reasonably possible." But defendants do not get unlimited stalls, or nothing would ever get to trial.

The right to a speedy trial rests exclusively with the defendant. The government cannot invoke it. Taxpayers neither. Voters no. Period.

That does not mean that a defendant can delay proceedings forever, and nobody has suggested that. I'm not even sure why you brought it up. Prosecutors frequently complained that TRUMP was using delaying tactics, but they couldn't invoke "speedy trial" rights. The courts had to decide each on a case-by-case basis.
Johnny Bear
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fubar said:

Johnny Bear said:

fubar said:

Johnny Bear said:

fubar said:

It does no such thing.

Charge her. We'll see how "compelling" whatever evidence they uncovered is at trial.

Yes, we will - and I look forward to her being held to account in court.

If Omar is re-elected, shouldn't the investigation be dropped? And the results to date sealed? Gag order?

There is a precedent for such, you know.

But we'll see. If she is acquitted -- of whatever TRUMP has in mind -- will you accept that she's been totally exonerated? If nothing against her moves forward, will you admit that this whole thing is a sham?

If she is guilty of crimes - and at a minimum there is enough evidence she is to get a democrat judge to sign off on one of her homes getting raided - she should be held fully accountable regardless of the outcome of her upcoming election. Period. I don't and shouldn't care about any alleged "precedent".

The precedent is your President. I'm glad to see that you're coming around to the idea that HE should be held accountable.

The cases did not "fall apart in court," as you claimed. When TRUMP was re-elected, Jack Smith dropped multiple court cases involving HIM. The facts never got to see the light of day. In Judge Cannon's court, Smith's report is sealed and gag orders issued.

As to Omar, I have no idea what judge signed off on the warrant. But that's what judges routinely do. The government presents the request with some background info. No judge -- or attorney, for that matter-- would claim that signing off on a warrant is remotely evidence of guilt.

The oddest thing about this case is that the warrant was executed three weeks before the election. Makes me think the TRUMP Administration is trying to affect the outcome with this and/or intimidate Omar. She is no threat to flee prosecution. TRUMP says HE had nothing to do with it.

I don't believe HIM. Do you?

With all the viscous, visceral, and unsubstantiated hatred you dumocrats have for Trump that to boot most of the MSM promotes and cheerleads for, if there was anything of substance that was found through the lawfare investigations targeted at Trump (especially including Jack Smith's investigations) it wouldn't have been dropped simply because the man was reelected. I'm sure that the fact that all of it was a political persecution based on manufactured charges had a little something to do with why everything was dropped.

But keep telling yourself it was only because of an election. LOL.
fubar
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Oh wow, you really got me there!
EatMoreSalmon
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fubar said:

EatMoreSalmon said:

fubar said:

EatMoreSalmon said:

The real problem I see is that there is a high likelihood that any case may take forever to reach a court no matter how much evidence there is. Too many times the process is the punishment, which is the point of state laws promising a "swift" trial by jury to protect against such. If there is anything there, it needs to proceed as swiftly as reasonably possible to protect the defendant and the tax payers and - in this case - the voters either way.

Swift trial is solely the right of the defendant.


Hence "reasonably possible." But defendants do not get unlimited stalls, or nothing would ever get to trial.

The right to a speedy trial rests exclusively with the defendant. The government cannot invoke it. Taxpayers neither. Voters no. Period.

That does not mean that a defendant can delay proceedings forever, and nobody has suggested that. I'm not even sure why you brought it up. Prosecutors frequently complained that TRUMP was using delaying tactics, but they couldn't invoke "speedy trial" rights. The courts had to decide each on a case-by-case basis.


I brought it up because it is used to delay justice by defense teams. I have doubts about how much a judge will push a defense team to fish or cut bait in a highly publicized case, even as a jury pool is being tainted. Unlike cases like those related to Abscam and various one off cases, Omar will be getting a lot of PR help from inside Congress and from various news outlets no matter the evidence. It's already started.
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Osodecentx said:

BearFan33 said:

Democrats complaining about Lawfare. Give me a break. What goes around comes around.

What is the O/U on the number of subpoenas the Democrat Congress is going to issue to the Trump family businesses


You are saying they might ratchet up the lawfare they weee already waging against him since the moment he ran for president?

There is not a year that has gone by since 2016 that some Democratic Congress or State level AG has not been "investigating" him or his family or his business interests

I don't like this increasing escalation of political lawfare…but it's unrealistic to expect only one side to sit back and accept such underhanded tactics


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fubar said:

Danielsjackson114 said:

Remember when baby jr played off as a conservative but he moved to Thailand to touch underage children

That's a pretty serious accusation. You ought to be ashamed of yourself.

yeah, out of bounds. Given it is Twink, I laugh as he has shown he is a pathetic high schooler. Since he has never been out of his county in Texas and has no job, he wouldn't understand that I moved to what I consider the best city in the world . I moved my Family Office here. He also would wouldn't understand business and relative to financial engineering , the tax implications via Singapore. As far as boys are concerned. Never seen that here. We have 3 areas of town with sex trade out of 18 Million, 15Million visitors per year (most visited city in the world) and it is a Mecca for tourists, not locals. He also wouldn't understand that my partner of a year is Oxford educated ,speaks 4 languages and runs her own fund. She is a whole lot smarter than me and comes from a poor family on a small rice patch in Northern Thailand and did it all herself. Hell, she didn't speak English until University. How you stack up Lil Danny . Hell, Lil Danny Twink said something about "MBA School" so we know he doesn't have an MBA. Not that it was ever confused. He is a sad little Tribal Maga. He's a piece of work. He won't answer questions, so he's chicken chit too.
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Johnny Bear said:

J.R. said:

Johnny Bear said:

fubar said:

GrowlTowel said:

fubar said:

Johnny Bear said:

fubar said:

It does no such thing.

Charge her. We'll see how "compelling" whatever evidence they uncovered is at trial.

Yes, we will - and I look forward to her being held to account in court.

If Omar is re-elected, shouldn't the investigation be dropped? And the results to date sealed? Gag order?

There is a precedent for such, you know.

But we'll see. If she is acquitted -- of whatever TRUMP has in mind -- will you accept that she's been totally exonerated? If nothing against her moves forward, will you admit that this whole thing is a sham?

Why doesn't your party simply kick her out of the party?

She is toxic, anti-American, and much further left of the moderates your party claims to be.


It's not my party. I'll be voting Dem in both Congressional seats up this year. State and local, a mix.

But I'm independent and have been for a decade now.

LOL - yeah right.

Why are so many of you lefties so ashamed or embarrassed to just admit what you are? You 're just like most of your candidates who repeatedly lie and claim they really didn't mean multiple things they're on record saying and doing a 180 on multiple policy positions they've previously held when a general election rolls around. What a bunch of fakes and frauds.

Little Johnny, you are just a freak and make **** up as you just did. You and the rest of the Trumpians till death, ie LJ, Teacherman, bitter bean counter and nothing more than serious outliers . How your parties war to play that game? Seriously, how's the economy? How's the war?, Inflation? That is 100% on yall Rs. Piggy is done and so are all your freaky friends in MAga

"How your parties war to play that game?". Huh???

Why do most of your posts read like they were written by a drunk 5th grade drop out? And to all the drunk 5th grade dropouts out there, I apologize for insulting you in the previous sentence.

By the way, the economy is better than your boy Auto Pen could have ever hoped for, and inflation (again caused by your man, Dementia Joe) is better also and will improve further after the action in the Middle East is finally resolved. The border is sealed and more secure than ever - no more millions of unvetted illegals being released into the country to cause havoc and leach off taxpayers as would've been the case if your gal Kommiela had been elected.

I know it angers you lefties that the President didn't just continue to kick the Iran can down the road, but I'm pretty happy my kids and grandkids won't have to deal with a nuclear Iran like they would have to do if your party had its way.

And as a final point funny how us "outliers" are the majority, isn't it? Now get back to binge watching MSNOW so you'll have material for your next post. And when you write it, please do your best to at least sound like you might have made it through the seventh grade.

apology accepted and appreciated. Much to your chagrin, I take great pride in not belonging to ANY part. Was a lifelong Reagan Republican until the R party left me. I have voted D 1 time in my life, but will vote for Talarico. I couldn't give 2 chits about what anyone thinks. I'm accountable to me. As I have said incessantly. If you think the economy is good..doon't know what to tell ya. As far as Iran is concerned. He didn't get congressional approval, still doesn't have it. Started a war all by himself and that other crook Netanyahu . Got our people killed. I'm not saying it didn't need to happen, but a PLAN is necessary. This BS about they are days away from a nuke was total crap. At least a year away. Bad news for your Tribe is it will cost the Rs dearly. Trump will be impeached and indicted. Oh, haven
t even gotten to the alleged rape of a 14yr old. It has turned into a quagmire. I just have ZERO time LIARS. His entire administration are nothing but a bunch of liars. Comes from the top. Go Donnie, Im making a fortune on your ineptitude .
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Liberals always rationalize when dems do it, but criticize when republicans do the same thing?
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