Sam Lowry said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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on trumped up charges with no evidence

All charges were dropped for obvious reasons, except the kangaroo court in New York which was blatantly unconstitutional and violated his rights as a defendant. But the fascists don't care about such things. And each of those prosecution teams have their own scandals. Jack Smith probably belongs in jail. Arguably, Leticia James does as well.

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For those who don't remember, here are several stacks of "no evidence."

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Debunked.

Look I don't like Trump and most of his actions.

But a picture of boxes proves nothing. I have some of those same boxes with papers/books in my home. Is that "proof" of anything?

No.

If it was proof then there would have been a trial and a guilty verdict beyond the show trial we got.

But you did a great job of deflecting the topic of this thread from Omar to Trump as almost every post after this one is about him and not the possible laws broken by her or the investigation.

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I don't think "debunked" means what you think it means.

And the original post was about Trump too.

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I am using it the way you use it.

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Not quite.

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Yup. Just look at your post for proof. You deleted the part you don't like/proves you wrong and cherry picked a specific part to reply to.

cowboycwr said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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cowboycwr said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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cowboycwr said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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on trumped up charges with no evidence

All charges were dropped for obvious reasons, except the kangaroo court in New York which was blatantly unconstitutional and violated his rights as a defendant. But the fascists don't care about such things. And each of those prosecution teams have their own scandals. Jack Smith probably belongs in jail. Arguably, Leticia James does as well.

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For those who don't remember, here are several stacks of "no evidence."

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Debunked.

Look I don't like Trump and most of his actions.

But a picture of boxes proves nothing. I have some of those same boxes with papers/books in my home. Is that "proof" of anything?

No.

If it was proof then there would have been a trial and a guilty verdict beyond the show trial we got.

But you did a great job of deflecting the topic of this thread from Omar to Trump as almost every post after this one is about him and not the possible laws broken by her or the investigation.

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I don't think "debunked" means what you think it means.

And the original post was about Trump too.

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I am using it the way you use it.

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Not quite.

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Yup. Just look at your post for proof. You deleted the part you don't like/proves you wrong and cherry picked a specific part to reply to.

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I don't think "prove" means what you think it means either.

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BEHOLD: Democrats who said "no one is above the law" are very upset that the DOJ is investigating a Democrat

https://notthebee.com/article/behold-democrats-who-said-no-one-is-above-the-law-are-very-upset-that-the-doj-is-investigating-a-democrat

They loved to say "No one is above the law" when they used law fare against Trump in fake charges and no evidence but not so much when one of them apparently is guilty of very serious crimes.

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a political appointee in Trump's first administration asked immigration authorities to look into Rep. Ilhan Omar's records in 2019, but officials concluded there was insufficient evidence of fraud or citizenship issues.
The review in 2019 did not seek to prove she was an "illegal immigrant"as she entered the country legally as a refugee from Somalia in the 1990s and became a naturalized U.S. citizen in 2000. Instead, the inquiry targeted long-circulating rumors regarding potential marriage and application fraud.
The details regarding the 2019 review and its outcomes include:

• The 2019 Request: According to former immigration officials, a political appointee asked career staff at U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS) and Homeland Security Investigations (HSI) to scrub Omar's refugee and naturalization history. Career staffers at the time flagged the request as highly unusual.
• The Outcome: After reviewing her records and her family's history, HSI officials concluded there was not enough evidence of wrongdoing or citizenship fraud to open a full case, and the inquiry was abandoned.

Sam Lowry said:

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EatMoreSalmon said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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fubar said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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BEHOLD: Democrats who said "no one is above the law" are very upset that the DOJ is investigating a Democrat

https://notthebee.com/article/behold-democrats-who-said-no-one-is-above-the-law-are-very-upset-that-the-doj-is-investigating-a-democrat

They loved to say "No one is above the law" when they used law fare against Trump in fake charges and no evidence but not so much when one of them apparently is guilty of very serious crimes.

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I realize this will make absolutely no difference to "conservatives," but the accusations against Trump were in fact very real.

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Not only real, Trump had every opportunity to cure before it went to warrant. He is willing to burn down the country.

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Yessir.

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If that were the full truth, then Biden would have been prosecuted well before Trump. Justice has not been blind for some time on the matter of classified documents. If it had, both men would have been charged, tried, and if found guilty then sentenced as hard as all the government grunts that have served time.
As it has stood for a long time, the executive big wigs and Congress members get a whole lot of leeway.

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Biden cooperated and returned the documents. Trump had more than enough opportunity to do the same, but he refused. It's not that complicated.

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Biden had not cooperated for many years before that, but was never raided or searched until Trump was targeted for documents. It was not a secret about Biden and documents, it just wasn't pursued until Trump. Even then the reasons not to pursue any further charges against Joe Biden are garbage. He was never going to be in any real trouble.
It has been as I stated above. DC rules have been ridiculously different for the elites. Trump became the exception for that.
Simplistic view you have there that is not what the document investigation into Biden concluded in its own documents.

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Not even close to the truth. The initial batch of Biden documents was discovered by his own lawyers and returned the next day. Biden cooperated with the DOJ to locate and return the rest of them as quickly as possible. The investigation concluded that the documents could plausibly have been kept by mistake and that prosecution was unwarranted because the evidence didn't establish guilt beyond a reasonable doubt.

In contrast, the Trump documents were found missing by the National Archives. What followed was more than a year of haggling, obstruction, and defiance by Trump, during which time the documents were stored in a grossly unsecure manner and, in some instances, openly displayed to his guests. To this day it's still not clear whether all of them were recovered.

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The timing of the statements you quoted don't match what you are trying to say. Biden's documents were out there known well before that statement was made. This is you trying to be twisty.

Now explain the dottering old man defense for not proceeding to court.

EatMoreSalmon said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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EatMoreSalmon said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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EatMoreSalmon said:

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fubar said:

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Mitch Blood Green said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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historian said:

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BEHOLD: Democrats who said "no one is above the law" are very upset that the DOJ is investigating a Democrat

https://notthebee.com/article/behold-democrats-who-said-no-one-is-above-the-law-are-very-upset-that-the-doj-is-investigating-a-democrat

They loved to say "No one is above the law" when they used law fare against Trump in fake charges and no evidence but not so much when one of them apparently is guilty of very serious crimes.

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I realize this will make absolutely no difference to "conservatives," but the accusations against Trump were in fact very real.

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Not only real, Trump had every opportunity to cure before it went to warrant. He is willing to burn down the country.

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Yessir.

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If that were the full truth, then Biden would have been prosecuted well before Trump. Justice has not been blind for some time on the matter of classified documents. If it had, both men would have been charged, tried, and if found guilty then sentenced as hard as all the government grunts that have served time.
As it has stood for a long time, the executive big wigs and Congress members get a whole lot of leeway.

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Biden cooperated and returned the documents. Trump had more than enough opportunity to do the same, but he refused. It's not that complicated.

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Biden had not cooperated for many years before that, but was never raided or searched until Trump was targeted for documents. It was not a secret about Biden and documents, it just wasn't pursued until Trump. Even then the reasons not to pursue any further charges against Joe Biden are garbage. He was never going to be in any real trouble.
It has been as I stated above. DC rules have been ridiculously different for the elites. Trump became the exception for that.
Simplistic view you have there that is not what the document investigation into Biden concluded in its own documents.

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Not even close to the truth. The initial batch of Biden documents was discovered by his own lawyers and returned the next day. Biden cooperated with the DOJ to locate and return the rest of them as quickly as possible. The investigation concluded that the documents could plausibly have been kept by mistake and that prosecution was unwarranted because the evidence didn't establish guilt beyond a reasonable doubt.

In contrast, the Trump documents were found missing by the National Archives. What followed was more than a year of haggling, obstruction, and defiance by Trump, during which time the documents were stored in a grossly unsecure manner and, in some instances, openly displayed to his guests. To this day it's still not clear whether all of them were recovered.

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The timing of the statements you quoted don't match what you are trying to say. Biden's documents were out there known well before that statement was made. This is you trying to be twisty.

Now explain the dottering old man defense for not proceeding to court.

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Correct. The feds would not have found them in Hunter's garage and Joe's Chinese-funded "think tank" if he returned them.

Apparently, now they have plenty of evidence since a Dem judge approved the search warrant. There is clear evidence she lied about her age and never was a legitimate citizen and thus not a legitimate member of Congress. It seems they also have DNA evidence that she married her brother.

Maybe it only required a DoJ willing to pursue the case.

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Apparently, now they have plenty of evidence since a Dem judge approved the search warrant. There is clear evidence she lied about her age and never was a legitimate citizen and thus not a legitimate member of Congress. It seems they also have DNA evidence that she married her brother.

Maybe it only required a DoJ willing to pursue the case.

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You have no idea what you're talking about. No. Idea.

EatMoreSalmon said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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EatMoreSalmon said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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EatMoreSalmon said:

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fubar said:

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Mitch Blood Green said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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historian said:

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BEHOLD: Democrats who said "no one is above the law" are very upset that the DOJ is investigating a Democrat

https://notthebee.com/article/behold-democrats-who-said-no-one-is-above-the-law-are-very-upset-that-the-doj-is-investigating-a-democrat

They loved to say "No one is above the law" when they used law fare against Trump in fake charges and no evidence but not so much when one of them apparently is guilty of very serious crimes.

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I realize this will make absolutely no difference to "conservatives," but the accusations against Trump were in fact very real.

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Not only real, Trump had every opportunity to cure before it went to warrant. He is willing to burn down the country.

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Yessir.

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If that were the full truth, then Biden would have been prosecuted well before Trump. Justice has not been blind for some time on the matter of classified documents. If it had, both men would have been charged, tried, and if found guilty then sentenced as hard as all the government grunts that have served time.
As it has stood for a long time, the executive big wigs and Congress members get a whole lot of leeway.

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Biden cooperated and returned the documents. Trump had more than enough opportunity to do the same, but he refused. It's not that complicated.

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Biden had not cooperated for many years before that, but was never raided or searched until Trump was targeted for documents. It was not a secret about Biden and documents, it just wasn't pursued until Trump. Even then the reasons not to pursue any further charges against Joe Biden are garbage. He was never going to be in any real trouble.
It has been as I stated above. DC rules have been ridiculously different for the elites. Trump became the exception for that.
Simplistic view you have there that is not what the document investigation into Biden concluded in its own documents.

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Not even close to the truth. The initial batch of Biden documents was discovered by his own lawyers and returned the next day. Biden cooperated with the DOJ to locate and return the rest of them as quickly as possible. The investigation concluded that the documents could plausibly have been kept by mistake and that prosecution was unwarranted because the evidence didn't establish guilt beyond a reasonable doubt.

In contrast, the Trump documents were found missing by the National Archives. What followed was more than a year of haggling, obstruction, and defiance by Trump, during which time the documents were stored in a grossly unsecure manner and, in some instances, openly displayed to his guests. To this day it's still not clear whether all of them were recovered.

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The timing of the statements you quoted don't match what you are trying to say. Biden's documents were out there known well before that statement was made. This is you trying to be twisty.

Now explain the dottering old man defense for not proceeding to court.

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I'm not sure what your first paragraph is saying. There was no investigation because the government didn't know the documents were missing. His lawyers returned them voluntarily after the Mar-a-Lago scandal broke.

It never went to court because Biden cooperated, it was plausible that he kept the documents by mistake, and the evidence didn't establish guilt beyond a reasonable doubt. Prosecutors always evaluate the demeanor of witnesses. That doesn't mean it was the only factor, as some would have you believe.

Actually I have facts. You use that silly phrase so often it looks like you have no idea what you are talking about.

Sam Lowry said:

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EatMoreSalmon said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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EatMoreSalmon said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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EatMoreSalmon said:

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fubar said:

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Mitch Blood Green said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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historian said:

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BEHOLD: Democrats who said "no one is above the law" are very upset that the DOJ is investigating a Democrat

https://notthebee.com/article/behold-democrats-who-said-no-one-is-above-the-law-are-very-upset-that-the-doj-is-investigating-a-democrat

They loved to say "No one is above the law" when they used law fare against Trump in fake charges and no evidence but not so much when one of them apparently is guilty of very serious crimes.

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I realize this will make absolutely no difference to "conservatives," but the accusations against Trump were in fact very real.

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Not only real, Trump had every opportunity to cure before it went to warrant. He is willing to burn down the country.

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Yessir.

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If that were the full truth, then Biden would have been prosecuted well before Trump. Justice has not been blind for some time on the matter of classified documents. If it had, both men would have been charged, tried, and if found guilty then sentenced as hard as all the government grunts that have served time.
As it has stood for a long time, the executive big wigs and Congress members get a whole lot of leeway.

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Biden cooperated and returned the documents. Trump had more than enough opportunity to do the same, but he refused. It's not that complicated.

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Biden had not cooperated for many years before that, but was never raided or searched until Trump was targeted for documents. It was not a secret about Biden and documents, it just wasn't pursued until Trump. Even then the reasons not to pursue any further charges against Joe Biden are garbage. He was never going to be in any real trouble.
It has been as I stated above. DC rules have been ridiculously different for the elites. Trump became the exception for that.
Simplistic view you have there that is not what the document investigation into Biden concluded in its own documents.

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Not even close to the truth. The initial batch of Biden documents was discovered by his own lawyers and returned the next day. Biden cooperated with the DOJ to locate and return the rest of them as quickly as possible. The investigation concluded that the documents could plausibly have been kept by mistake and that prosecution was unwarranted because the evidence didn't establish guilt beyond a reasonable doubt.

In contrast, the Trump documents were found missing by the National Archives. What followed was more than a year of haggling, obstruction, and defiance by Trump, during which time the documents were stored in a grossly unsecure manner and, in some instances, openly displayed to his guests. To this day it's still not clear whether all of them were recovered.

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The timing of the statements you quoted don't match what you are trying to say. Biden's documents were out there known well before that statement was made. This is you trying to be twisty.

Now explain the dottering old man defense for not proceeding to court.

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I'm not sure what your first paragraph is saying. There was no investigation because the government didn't know the documents were missing. His lawyers returned them voluntarily after the Mar-a-Lago scandal broke.

It never went to court because Biden cooperated, it was plausible that he kept the documents by mistake, and the evidence didn't establish guilt beyond a reasonable doubt. Prosecutors always evaluate the demeanor of witnesses. That doesn't mean it was the only factor, as some would have you believe.

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Your timing is way off again. I think you do this on purpose.

'I just found all the classified stuff downstairs,' Biden tells ghostwriter in recording

BBC article.

from it:
During Biden's tenure as president from 2021-25, the justice department declined to release the audio tapes.

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BEHOLD: Democrats who said "no one is above the law" are very upset that the DOJ is investigating a Democrat

https://notthebee.com/article/behold-democrats-who-said-no-one-is-above-the-law-are-very-upset-that-the-doj-is-investigating-a-democrat

They loved to say "No one is above the law" when they used law fare against Trump in fake charges and no evidence but not so much when one of them apparently is guilty of very serious crimes.

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a political appointee in Trump's first administration asked immigration authorities to look into Rep. Ilhan Omar's records in 2019, but officials concluded there was insufficient evidence of fraud or citizenship issues.
The review in 2019 did not seek to prove she was an "illegal immigrant"as she entered the country legally as a refugee from Somalia in the 1990s and became a naturalized U.S. citizen in 2000. Instead, the inquiry targeted long-circulating rumors regarding potential marriage and application fraud.
The details regarding the 2019 review and its outcomes include:

• The 2019 Request: According to former immigration officials, a political appointee asked career staff at U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS) and Homeland Security Investigations (HSI) to scrub Omar's refugee and naturalization history. Career staffers at the time flagged the request as highly unusual.
• The Outcome: After reviewing her records and her family's history, HSI officials concluded there was not enough evidence of wrongdoing or citizenship fraud to open a full case, and the inquiry was abandoned.

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She is a radical that openly hates America. Why do you want such a bigot in your party?

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Actually I have facts. You use that silly phrase so often it looks like you have no idea what you are talking about.

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Then present them.

I already did. You chose to ignore them.

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Apparently, now they have plenty of evidence since a Dem judge approved the search warrant. There is clear evidence she lied about her age and never was a legitimate citizen and thus not a legitimate member of Congress. It seems they also have DNA evidence that she married her brother.

Maybe it only required a DoJ willing to pursue the case.

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You have no idea what you're talking about. No. Idea.

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Please enlighten us on what he said can be proven wrong right now?

Because everything I have seen shows that this is what is being investigated and what they are trying to figure out if it is true or not true. But I have seen no facts that back it up as false. So it seems he does in fact know what he is talking about.

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Apparently, now they have plenty of evidence since a Dem judge approved the search warrant. There is clear evidence she lied about her age and never was a legitimate citizen and thus not a legitimate member of Congress. It seems they also have DNA evidence that she married her brother.

Maybe it only required a DoJ willing to pursue the case.

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Some simple people still believe such myths

The liberal lunatic tears will be great when she is going to jail or even better, deported

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The liberal lunatic tears will be great when she is going to jail or even better, deported

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You are deplorable. A racist, xenophobic, misogynist, homophobic, fascist. May God have mercy on your soul.

Lastly, she can wear all of the head garbs she wants in somalia

But when you are here, assimilate and take that sht off

Justhappytobeliberal is an idiot

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Justhappytobeliberal is an idiot

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You are a ****ing moron

No no no

You are a complete liberal clown, and you live in a fairytale

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... if federal investigators are able to prove she provided false information on her citizenship application or that someone else submitted false information on her behalf.

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So what? Some people did some things. No biggie.

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Apparently, now they have plenty of evidence since a Dem judge approved the search warrant. There is clear evidence she lied about her age and never was a legitimate citizen and thus not a legitimate member of Congress. It seems they also have DNA evidence that she married her brother.

Maybe it only required a DoJ willing to pursue the case.

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Some simple people still believe such myths

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So you think this is all a witch hunt with no evidence?

Do you think the judge that signed off on it is playing politics or thought that what was presented was enough to search for further evidence?

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The liberal lunatic tears will be great when she is going to jail or even better, deported

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You are deplorable. A racist, xenophobic, misogynist, homophobic, fascist. May God have mercy on your soul.

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What why is this the go to any time someone wants an investigation done?

Does the fact that she is a woman, not white, Islamic, etc. mean she cannot be investigated at all?

NO BROWN PEOPLE INVISTAGTED BRO

SIGNED: EVERY LIBERAL NUT JOB LIKE JUSTHAPPY2BELIBERAL

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So what? Some people did some things. No biggie.

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Well played.

And some people don't believe facts no matter how much sense they make because of their biases. TDS can be dangerous.

Congratulations! You just described most of the Left in general and almost all Dem politicians.

He ex husband is living in the UK, I believe. How'd they get his DNA? They would need that to match with hers.

She doesn't represent anything I could agree with but I would hope this isn't anger because she wears something that is offensive to wee ones on sic'em riding in the back of momma's mini-van..

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He ex husband is living in the UK, I believe. How'd they get his DNA? They would need that to match with hers.

She doesn't represent anything I could agree with but I would hope this isn't anger because she wears something that is offensive to wee ones on sic'em riding in the back of momma's mini-van..

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I hope you're sitting down ... but there are these things call "airplanes." They are called "airplanes" because they effectively move on a plane in the air. In 2026, it is possible to actually move from America to England. #mindblown

How do you explain that she has the exact same name as her brusband besides her personal name? What are the odds?