A Russian Officer Turned Against His Country and Helped Ukraine Kill Hundreds

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In reply to sombear • 3:09p, 10/24/26
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sombear said:
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NATO should have dissolved after the fall of the Soviet Union.

Its a complete drain on the US, which is now $40 trillion in debt after a lifetime of ******ed Boomers supporting wars for Israel. We cant afford to keep subsidizing Nato even if it actually made sense to, which it doesn't.

That's funny . . . you actually think we'd cut defense spending if we left NATO. Best laugh I've had in a while.


What's going to happen when Israel goes to war with Turkey?

Won't happen


You sure about that?

They seem to have no problems funding and supplying wars against NATO members.

I already showed you how they backed the Moroccan invasion of Spanish territory and now this...

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In reply to KaiBear • 3:16p, 10/24/26
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Tempus Edax Rerum said:
https://www.wsj.com/world/russian-defector-deadly-sabotage-campaign-a95d163c

Hero

Legend

Freedom Fighter

Is he though?

From what I have read most of the soldiers in Ukraine do not want to be there but have been forced. They didn't start the war. Putin did. The generals keep it going. The average soldier is just a pawn.


Currently reading a history of Ukraine . Hard going as it is incredibly bloody….one war …one massacre after another.

But the total carnage the Ukrainians have suffered from the Russians since the end of WW1 goes a long way to explaining why the Ukrainians have fought so desperately.

They know , without a doubt , what will happen to them if the Russians win.

People with no sense of history have no idea why Ukrainians are among the proudest, most resilient, and most freedom-loving people in the world.


I don't know who or what constitutes the 'most freedom loving people in the world '.

But if being murdered by the millions is the best measurement …..the Ukrainians certainly have a valid claim.

As due the Jews, Chinese, and Armenians.


Outside of the ME Christians, no one has suffered more and received the least amount of support than the poor Armenian Christians...

Israeli weapons quietly helped Azerbaijan retake Nagorno-Karabakh
[url=https://www.timesofisrael.com/israeli-weapons-quietly-helped-azerbaijan-retake-nagorno-karabakh-sources-data/][/url]
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In reply to The_barBEARian • 9:16a, 10/25/26
The_barBEARian said:
sombear said:
The_barBEARian said:
sombear said:
The_barBEARian said:
NATO should have dissolved after the fall of the Soviet Union.

Its a complete drain on the US, which is now $40 trillion in debt after a lifetime of ******ed Boomers supporting wars for Israel. We cant afford to keep subsidizing Nato even if it actually made sense to, which it doesn't.

That's funny . . . you actually think we'd cut defense spending if we left NATO. Best laugh I've had in a while.


What's going to happen when Israel goes to war with Turkey?

Won't happen


You sure about that?

They seem to have no problems funding and supplying wars against NATO members.

I already showed you how they backed the Moroccan invasion of Spanish territory and now this...


I've seen no evidence Irael supported the Moroccan invasion or Argentina relative to the Falklands.

X is not reality (or evidence).
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In reply to sombear • 2:45p, 10/25/26
sombear said:
The_barBEARian said:
sombear said:
The_barBEARian said:
sombear said:
The_barBEARian said:
NATO should have dissolved after the fall of the Soviet Union.

Its a complete drain on the US, which is now $40 trillion in debt after a lifetime of ******ed Boomers supporting wars for Israel. We cant afford to keep subsidizing Nato even if it actually made sense to, which it doesn't.

That's funny . . . you actually think we'd cut defense spending if we left NATO. Best laugh I've had in a while.


What's going to happen when Israel goes to war with Turkey?

Won't happen


You sure about that?

They seem to have no problems funding and supplying wars against NATO members.

I already showed you how they backed the Moroccan invasion of Spanish territory and now this...


I've seen no evidence Irael supported the Moroccan invasion or Argentina relative to the Falklands.

X is not reality (or evidence).


Ok. I thought i was dealing with a rational person but you dont deal in reality apparently. You were provided with evidence and you covered your eyes and said you havent seen any evidence.

You get better journalism from independent journalist on X than propaganda networks like Fox News
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In reply to The_barBEARian • 4:27p, 10/25/26
The_barBEARian said:
sombear said:
The_barBEARian said:
sombear said:
The_barBEARian said:
sombear said:
The_barBEARian said:
NATO should have dissolved after the fall of the Soviet Union.

Its a complete drain on the US, which is now $40 trillion in debt after a lifetime of ******ed Boomers supporting wars for Israel. We cant afford to keep subsidizing Nato even if it actually made sense to, which it doesn't.

That's funny . . . you actually think we'd cut defense spending if we left NATO. Best laugh I've had in a while.


What's going to happen when Israel goes to war with Turkey?

Won't happen


You sure about that?

They seem to have no problems funding and supplying wars against NATO members.

I already showed you how they backed the Moroccan invasion of Spanish territory and now this...


I've seen no evidence Irael supported the Moroccan invasion or Argentina relative to the Falklands.

X is not reality (or evidence).


Ok. I thought i was dealing with a rational person but you dont deal in reality apparently. You were provided with evidence and you covered your eyes and said you havent seen any evidence.

You get better journalism from independent journalist on X than propaganda networks like Fox News

I'm a fan of X when it's actual reporting with supporting evidence. I always double and triple check posts before taking as credible.

If I watch 2 hours of Fox in a year, it was a bender . . . .
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In reply to sombear • 4:49p, 10/25/26
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The_barBEARian said:
sombear said:
The_barBEARian said:
sombear said:
The_barBEARian said:
sombear said:
The_barBEARian said:
NATO should have dissolved after the fall of the Soviet Union.

Its a complete drain on the US, which is now $40 trillion in debt after a lifetime of ******ed Boomers supporting wars for Israel. We cant afford to keep subsidizing Nato even if it actually made sense to, which it doesn't.

That's funny . . . you actually think we'd cut defense spending if we left NATO. Best laugh I've had in a while.


What's going to happen when Israel goes to war with Turkey?

Won't happen


You sure about that?

They seem to have no problems funding and supplying wars against NATO members.

I already showed you how they backed the Moroccan invasion of Spanish territory and now this...


I've seen no evidence Irael supported the Moroccan invasion or Argentina relative to the Falklands.

X is not reality (or evidence).


Ok. I thought i was dealing with a rational person but you dont deal in reality apparently. You were provided with evidence and you covered your eyes and said you havent seen any evidence.

You get better journalism from independent journalist on X than propaganda networks like Fox News

I'm a fan of X when it's actual reporting with supporting evidence. I always double and triple check posts before taking as credible.

If I watch 2 hours of Fox in a year, it was a bender . . . .


With regard to the situation in Spain I was literally copying posts made by Israeli officials on their government accounts directly backing Morocco and saying the Spanish territories (that they've held in North Africa since the 1400s) were examples of colonialism. Marco Rubio even sent money to Morocco from the State Department to fund the Moroccan invasion of Spain.

Israel attacked Spain bcs the Spanish government had the temerity to call Satanyahu a war criminal.
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In reply to The_barBEARian • 8:05p, 10/25/26
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Strong anti-Muslim extremism; pro-EU; anti-Russia; pro-capitalist and freedom.

Man, where do I sign up??????
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In reply to sombear • 6:34p, 10/26/26
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KaiBear said:

Ukrainians know their history involving the Russians. They know how Stalin executed hundreds of thousands of them …..and intentionally starved to death millions more.


...and then there are people who realize what the USSR did under Stalin a hundred years ago under Bolshevism has nothing to do with what modern Russia is doing today, and that Mongolia isn't riding west on horseback to overrun Europe (although Africa and Pakistan just might).

What an uninformed post.

That's really easy for you to think that.

I assure you, Ukrainians don't see it that way. And why would they? Russia has been the same murderous, brutal neighbor regardless of who has been in power. And the latest invasion did not just start in 2022, but back in 2014.

Heck, Russians don't even see it that way. Putin is the one who will not stop talking about the "history" of Ukraine and Russia and justifying his invasion. He still thinks Ukraine belongs to Russia. He had his one great opportunity in his Tucker interview to explain once and for all why he invaded Ukraine. What did he do? He spent the first 45 minutes arguing Ukraine's not really a country and belongs to Mother Russia.


You're rewriting history and mischaracterizing the Russian position. The Americans who brought the Cold War to an end believed, or at least claimed to believe, that their battle was with Bolshevism and not Russia per se. For their part, the Russians acted with a sense of humility and realism that few if any declining empires have ever shown. We're certainly not showing anything like it today.
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In reply to sombear • 12:27a, 10/27/26
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The_barBEARian said:

Strong anti-Muslim extremism; pro-EU; anti-Russia; pro-capitalist and freedom.

Man, where do I sign up??????

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In reply to sombear • 1:29p, 10/27/26
sombear said:
The_barBEARian said:
sombear said:
The_barBEARian said:
sombear said:
The_barBEARian said:
NATO should have dissolved after the fall of the Soviet Union.

Its a complete drain on the US, which is now $40 trillion in debt after a lifetime of ******ed Boomers supporting wars for Israel. We cant afford to keep subsidizing Nato even if it actually made sense to, which it doesn't.

That's funny . . . you actually think we'd cut defense spending if we left NATO. Best laugh I've had in a while.


What's going to happen when Israel goes to war with Turkey?

Won't happen


You sure about that?

They seem to have no problems funding and supplying wars against NATO members.

I already showed you how they backed the Moroccan invasion of Spanish territory and now this...


I've seen no evidence Irael supported the Moroccan invasion or Argentina relative to the Falklands.

X is not reality (or evidence).

Agreed

However IMO Argentina is more important to US interests than a clearly failing 'Great' Britain.

Been to the Falklands......it is a very dreary, wind blown series of islands.





....with possible oil reserves offshore.
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In reply to The_barBEARian • 1:52p, 10/27/26
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One of the quirks of a leaderless movement. Different "leaders" say completely different things. But I can tell you the Russians are none too happy and did everything.they could to keep him in power.

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In reply to sombear • 2:22p, 10/27/26
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One of the quirks of a leaderless movement. Different "leaders" say completely different things. But I can tell you the Russians are none too happy and did everything.they could to keep him in power.



Is the Serbs are foolish enough to join the EU this is what Israel has in store for them:

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In reply to The_barBEARian • 6:47p, 10/27/26
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sombear said:
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One of the quirks of a leaderless movement. Different "leaders" say completely different things. But I can tell you the Russians are none too happy and did everything.they could to keep him in power.



Is the Serbs are foolish enough to join the EU this is what Israel has in store for them:


C'mon . . the Muslim countries won't even take Palestinians. No way in heck Europe does.
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In reply to sombear • 7:11p, 10/27/26
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The_barBEARian said:
sombear said:
The_barBEARian said:


One of the quirks of a leaderless movement. Different "leaders" say completely different things. But I can tell you the Russians are none too happy and did everything.they could to keep him in power.



Is the Serbs are foolish enough to join the EU this is what Israel has in store for them:


C'mon . . the Muslim countries won't even take Palestinians. No way in heck Europe does.

Europe has been a dumping ground for ME refugees since the Iraq War.
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In reply to The_barBEARian • 7:21p, 10/27/26
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sombear said:
The_barBEARian said:
sombear said:
The_barBEARian said:


One of the quirks of a leaderless movement. Different "leaders" say completely different things. But I can tell you the Russians are none too happy and did everything.they could to keep him in power.



Is the Serbs are foolish enough to join the EU this is what Israel has in store for them:


C'mon . . the Muslim countries won't even take Palestinians. No way in heck Europe does.

Europe has been a dumping ground for ME refugees since the Iraq War.


True but not Palestinians. Nobody will take them. Literally nobody.
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10:36a, 10/28/26
I hope they give Zelensky the Ceausescu treatment when this is finally over!

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In reply to The_barBEARian • 12:18p, 10/28/26
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I hope they give Zelensky the Ceausescu treatment when this is finally over!


Blame the victim . . . this is bizarro world.
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In reply to sombear • 12:25p, 10/28/26
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I hope they give Zelensky the Ceausescu treatment when this is finally over!


Blame the victim . . . this is bizarro world.


How is Zelensky a victim?

He has exploited dead Ukrainians so he can have his fleet of luxury cars, expensive real estate all over Europe, and several yachts in Monaco.

If he was a noble person who actually cared about the Ukrainian people, he would have resigned a long time ago...
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In reply to The_barBEARian • 12:31p, 10/28/26
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sombear said:
The_barBEARian said:
I hope they give Zelensky the Ceausescu treatment when this is finally over!


Blame the victim . . . this is bizarro world.


How is Zelensky a victim?

He has exploited dead Ukrainians so he can have his fleet of luxury cars, expensive real estate all over Europe, and several yachts in Monaco.

If he was a noble person who actually cared about the Ukrainian people, he would have resigned a long time ago...

Those stories have all been refuted as Russian propaganda, but nice try.

Blame the Ukranian people if you're so inclined. They overwhelmingly want to find rather than be taken over by Russia. Poll after poll proves this. Heck, just today, 75% support continuing to fight. I honor them, but you are free to disagree and root for Putin.

The crazy thing is people like you are surprised that Ukrainians are willing to defend their freedom when this is the story of history. Free people risking their lives against the odds to defend themselves and their countries. Just like our great founders.
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In reply to The_barBEARian • 12:48p, 10/28/26
The_barBEARian said:
sombear said:
The_barBEARian said:
I hope they give Zelensky the Ceausescu treatment when this is finally over!


Blame the victim . . . this is bizarro world.


How is Zelensky a victim?

He has exploited dead Ukrainians so he can have his fleet of luxury cars, expensive real estate all over Europe, and several yachts in Monaco.

If he was a noble person who actually cared about the Ukrainian people, he would have resigned a long time ago...

Here is the poll - just the latest in a long line

KIIS Poll published October 28 survey conducted between October 16 and October 25.

Some 76% of respondents supported continued armed resistance against Russia, even if Moscow's attacks in winter result in outages in electricity, heat, and sewage.

Some 80% of respondents back the continued strikes, even if Washington restricts intelligence sharing or Starlink operations. Only 11% said Ukraine should pause the attacks, despite Russia's ongoing attacks on the Ukrainian energy grid and other civilian facilities.

63% of Ukrainians are ready to endure the war as long as necessary, a rate that has remained largely stable since summer.


Here is the AI summary quote - there are far more detailed rebuttals.

Bottom line

Based on the publicly available evidence, the specific stories about Zelensky owning luxury yachts or secret overseas mansions have not been substantiated and have generally been debunked by fact-checkers and by the entities allegedly involved in the transactions.
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In reply to sombear • 2:00p, 10/28/26
sombear said:
The_barBEARian said:
sombear said:
The_barBEARian said:
I hope they give Zelensky the Ceausescu treatment when this is finally over!


Blame the victim . . . this is bizarro world.


How is Zelensky a victim?

He has exploited dead Ukrainians so he can have his fleet of luxury cars, expensive real estate all over Europe, and several yachts in Monaco.

If he was a noble person who actually cared about the Ukrainian people, he would have resigned a long time ago...

Here is the poll - just the latest in a long line

KIIS Poll published October 28 survey conducted between October 16 and October 25.

Some 76% of respondents supported continued armed resistance against Russia, even if Moscow's attacks in winter result in outages in electricity, heat, and sewage.

Some 80% of respondents back the continued strikes, even if Washington restricts intelligence sharing or Starlink operations. Only 11% said Ukraine should pause the attacks, despite Russia's ongoing attacks on the Ukrainian energy grid and other civilian facilities.

63% of Ukrainians are ready to endure the war as long as necessary, a rate that has remained largely stable since summer.


Here is the AI summary quote - there are far more detailed rebuttals.

Bottom line

Based on the publicly available evidence, the specific stories about Zelensky owning luxury yachts or secret overseas mansions have not been substantiated and have generally been debunked by fact-checkers and by the entities allegedly involved in the transactions.


I only wish the best for the Ukrainian people... but they should have just given those eastern provinces to Russia... I suppose Crimea is worth fighting over but they had already lost it years earlier.

I do question the judgement of any nation that would put someone like Zelensky in a leadership position.

You follow this stuffy closely so I'm sure you are aware that on the Russian side, Putin is the moderate option.
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In reply to The_barBEARian • 2:13p, 10/28/26
The_barBEARian said:
sombear said:
The_barBEARian said:
sombear said:
The_barBEARian said:
I hope they give Zelensky the Ceausescu treatment when this is finally over!


Blame the victim . . . this is bizarro world.


How is Zelensky a victim?

He has exploited dead Ukrainians so he can have his fleet of luxury cars, expensive real estate all over Europe, and several yachts in Monaco.

If he was a noble person who actually cared about the Ukrainian people, he would have resigned a long time ago...

Here is the poll - just the latest in a long line

KIIS Poll published October 28 survey conducted between October 16 and October 25.

Some 76% of respondents supported continued armed resistance against Russia, even if Moscow's attacks in winter result in outages in electricity, heat, and sewage.

Some 80% of respondents back the continued strikes, even if Washington restricts intelligence sharing or Starlink operations. Only 11% said Ukraine should pause the attacks, despite Russia's ongoing attacks on the Ukrainian energy grid and other civilian facilities.

63% of Ukrainians are ready to endure the war as long as necessary, a rate that has remained largely stable since summer.


Here is the AI summary quote - there are far more detailed rebuttals.

Bottom line

Based on the publicly available evidence, the specific stories about Zelensky owning luxury yachts or secret overseas mansions have not been substantiated and have generally been debunked by fact-checkers and by the entities allegedly involved in the transactions.


I only wish the best for the Ukrainian people... but they should have just given those eastern provinces to Russia... I suppose Crimea is worth fighting over but they had already lost it years earlier.

I do question the judgement of any nation that would put someone like Zelensky in a leadership position.

You follow this stuffy closely so I'm sure you are aware that on the Russian side, Putin is the moderate option.

I certainly can't speak for the Ukrainians, but knowing them and knowing the history, they could not give up the entire Donbas. It's truly their last line of defense. Plus, as you know, Putin was (and still is) demanding far more than just land.

As for Zelensky, you have to consider the context. I was surprised at his margin of victory but not his victory. With maybe one or two exceptions, every preceding Ukraine administration had major corruption scandals. Most involved Russia in some way. Zelesnky basically said, I'm just a successful comedian, producer, and business person. I don't need more $, and I don't know any of the old corrupt guard. Give me a chance. Let's do this differently. It worked for him. Ukrainians were flat fed up with the status quo. Voters didn't really vote on issues or even with their pocket books. They just wanted dramatic change from a fresh non-politician face.

Putin is no moderate. There is some truth to "the devil you know . . ." but there are many in his administration thought to be far more moderate and who would govern more closely aligned with the west. It is also true there are some old school flame throwers. But Putin is more closely aligned with them. As someone who flat abhors Putin and the Russian government, I'd definitely take my chances with someone new.
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In reply to sombear • 2:18p, 10/28/26
sombear said:
The_barBEARian said:
sombear said:
The_barBEARian said:
sombear said:
The_barBEARian said:
I hope they give Zelensky the Ceausescu treatment when this is finally over!


Blame the victim . . . this is bizarro world.


How is Zelensky a victim?

He has exploited dead Ukrainians so he can have his fleet of luxury cars, expensive real estate all over Europe, and several yachts in Monaco.

If he was a noble person who actually cared about the Ukrainian people, he would have resigned a long time ago...

Here is the poll - just the latest in a long line

KIIS Poll published October 28 survey conducted between October 16 and October 25.

Some 76% of respondents supported continued armed resistance against Russia, even if Moscow's attacks in winter result in outages in electricity, heat, and sewage.

Some 80% of respondents back the continued strikes, even if Washington restricts intelligence sharing or Starlink operations. Only 11% said Ukraine should pause the attacks, despite Russia's ongoing attacks on the Ukrainian energy grid and other civilian facilities.

63% of Ukrainians are ready to endure the war as long as necessary, a rate that has remained largely stable since summer.


Here is the AI summary quote - there are far more detailed rebuttals.

Bottom line

Based on the publicly available evidence, the specific stories about Zelensky owning luxury yachts or secret overseas mansions have not been substantiated and have generally been debunked by fact-checkers and by the entities allegedly involved in the transactions.


I only wish the best for the Ukrainian people... but they should have just given those eastern provinces to Russia... I suppose Crimea is worth fighting over but they had already lost it years earlier.

I do question the judgement of any nation that would put someone like Zelensky in a leadership position.

You follow this stuffy closely so I'm sure you are aware that on the Russian side, Putin is the moderate option.

I certainly can't speak for the Ukrainians, but knowing them and knowing the history, they could not give up the entire Donbas. It's truly their last line of defense. Plus, as you know, Putin was (and still is) demanding far more than just land.

As for Zelensky, you have to consider the context. I was surprised at his margin of victory but not his victory. With maybe one or two exceptions, every preceding Ukraine administration had major corruption scandals. Most involved Russia in some way. Zelesnky basically said, I'm just a successful comedian, producer, and business person. I don't need more $, and I don't know any of the old corrupt guard. Give me a chance. Let's do this differently. It worked for him. Ukrainians were flat fed up with the status quo. Voters didn't really vote on issues or even with their pocket books. They just wanted dramatic change from a fresh non-politician face.

Putin is no moderate. There is some truth to "the devil you know . . ." but there are many in his administration thought to be far more moderate and who would govern more closely aligned with the west. It is also true there are some old school flame throwers. But Putin is more closely aligned with them. As someone who flat abhors Putin and the Russian government, I'd definitely take my chances with someone new.


Medvedev?
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In reply to The_barBEARian • 2:19p, 10/28/26
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sombear said:
The_barBEARian said:
sombear said:
The_barBEARian said:
sombear said:
The_barBEARian said:
I hope they give Zelensky the Ceausescu treatment when this is finally over!


Blame the victim . . . this is bizarro world.


How is Zelensky a victim?

He has exploited dead Ukrainians so he can have his fleet of luxury cars, expensive real estate all over Europe, and several yachts in Monaco.

If he was a noble person who actually cared about the Ukrainian people, he would have resigned a long time ago...

Here is the poll - just the latest in a long line

KIIS Poll published October 28 survey conducted between October 16 and October 25.

Some 76% of respondents supported continued armed resistance against Russia, even if Moscow's attacks in winter result in outages in electricity, heat, and sewage.

Some 80% of respondents back the continued strikes, even if Washington restricts intelligence sharing or Starlink operations. Only 11% said Ukraine should pause the attacks, despite Russia's ongoing attacks on the Ukrainian energy grid and other civilian facilities.

63% of Ukrainians are ready to endure the war as long as necessary, a rate that has remained largely stable since summer.


Here is the AI summary quote - there are far more detailed rebuttals.

Bottom line

Based on the publicly available evidence, the specific stories about Zelensky owning luxury yachts or secret overseas mansions have not been substantiated and have generally been debunked by fact-checkers and by the entities allegedly involved in the transactions.


I only wish the best for the Ukrainian people... but they should have just given those eastern provinces to Russia... I suppose Crimea is worth fighting over but they had already lost it years earlier.

I do question the judgement of any nation that would put someone like Zelensky in a leadership position.

You follow this stuffy closely so I'm sure you are aware that on the Russian side, Putin is the moderate option.

I certainly can't speak for the Ukrainians, but knowing them and knowing the history, they could not give up the entire Donbas. It's truly their last line of defense. Plus, as you know, Putin was (and still is) demanding far more than just land.

As for Zelensky, you have to consider the context. I was surprised at his margin of victory but not his victory. With maybe one or two exceptions, every preceding Ukraine administration had major corruption scandals. Most involved Russia in some way. Zelesnky basically said, I'm just a successful comedian, producer, and business person. I don't need more $, and I don't know any of the old corrupt guard. Give me a chance. Let's do this differently. It worked for him. Ukrainians were flat fed up with the status quo. Voters didn't really vote on issues or even with their pocket books. They just wanted dramatic change from a fresh non-politician face.

Putin is no moderate. There is some truth to "the devil you know . . ." but there are many in his administration thought to be far more moderate and who would govern more closely aligned with the west. It is also true there are some old school flame throwers. But Putin is more closely aligned with them. As someone who flat abhors Putin and the Russian government, I'd definitely take my chances with someone new.


Medvedev?

Definitely would be worse!
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In reply to sombear • 5:55p, 10/28/26
sombear said:
The_barBEARian said:
sombear said:
The_barBEARian said:
I hope they give Zelensky the Ceausescu treatment when this is finally over!


Blame the victim . . . this is bizarro world.


How is Zelensky a victim?

He has exploited dead Ukrainians so he can have his fleet of luxury cars, expensive real estate all over Europe, and several yachts in Monaco.

If he was a noble person who actually cared about the Ukrainian people, he would have resigned a long time ago...

Here is the poll - just the latest in a long line

KIIS Poll published October 28 survey conducted between October 16 and October 25.

Some 76% of respondents supported continued armed resistance against Russia, even if Moscow's attacks in winter result in outages in electricity, heat, and sewage.

Some 80% of respondents back the continued strikes, even if Washington restricts intelligence sharing or Starlink operations. Only 11% said Ukraine should pause the attacks, despite Russia's ongoing attacks on the Ukrainian energy grid and other civilian facilities.

63% of Ukrainians are ready to endure the war as long as necessary, a rate that has remained largely stable since summer.


Here is the AI summary quote - there are far more detailed rebuttals.

Bottom line

Based on the publicly available evidence, the specific stories about Zelensky owning luxury yachts or secret overseas mansions have not been substantiated and have generally been debunked by fact-checkers and by the entities allegedly involved in the transactions.


Good information

Thanks
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12:40a, 10/29/26
This is like something you'd see in the movies...

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10:17p, 10/30/26
Listen to this Ukrainian brother:

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8:45a, 10/31/26
Putin saving all those Russia supporting easterners …..

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In reply to sombear • 4:16a, 11/11/26
sombear said:
Sam Lowry said:
cowboycwr said:
sombear said:
Tempus Edax Rerum said:
https://www.wsj.com/world/russian-defector-deadly-sabotage-campaign-a95d163c

Hero

Legend

Freedom Fighter

Is he though?

From what I have read most of the soldiers in Ukraine do not want to be there but have been forced. They didn't start the war. Putin did. The generals keep it going. The average soldier is just a pawn.

Ukraine may be fighting for many things (e.g. wealth, resources, ethnic supremacy), but freedom is certainly not one of them.


I take it you don't know any Ukrainians

We had a foreign exchange student from Ukraine who in the late 2017-2019. She graduated went to undergrad and law school in Warsaw and moved there. Her families home was totally bombed out by the Russians and they had to flee to Warsaw to live Alika So, I have a little skin in the game.
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J.R. said:
sombear said:
Sam Lowry said:
cowboycwr said:
sombear said:
Tempus Edax Rerum said:
https://www.wsj.com/world/russian-defector-deadly-sabotage-campaign-a95d163c

Hero

Legend

Freedom Fighter

Is he though?

From what I have read most of the soldiers in Ukraine do not want to be there but have been forced. They didn't start the war. Putin did. The generals keep it going. The average soldier is just a pawn.

Ukraine may be fighting for many things (e.g. wealth, resources, ethnic supremacy), but freedom is certainly not one of them.


I take it you don't know any Ukrainians

We had a foreign exchange student from Ukraine who in the late 2017-2019. She graduated went to undergrad and law school in Warsaw and moved there. Her families home was totally bombed out by the Russians and they had to flee to Warsaw to live Alika So, I have a little skin in the game.

Sorry to hear it. Great people, aren't they?

I'd say close to half of the Ukrainians I know lived in the east or close to it, and all have lost their homes and were forced to flee. Thankfully, they all survived as far I know, but most have lost family and friends.
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