Mueller/Barr Letter and Riff

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HuMcK
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Sam Lowry said:

HuMcK said:

Sam Lowry said:

HuMcK said:

riflebear said:

HuMcK said:

riflebear said:

HuMcK said:

riflebear said:

HuMcK said:

Doc Holliday said:

HuMcK said:

Told y'all he was spooked by the staff counsel questioning plan. Now let's see how far this escalates.

He's not spooked.

Democrats we're being extremely disrespectful and he isn't putting up with it.

Lol sure, that must be why he balked at targeted questioning by a staff counsel instead of the usual grandstanding questions by politicians. Remember when Hillary turned down a Congressional summons during the Benghazi hearings because Republicans were "disrespectful" towards her? Oh wait no that's not right, Hillary wasn't a cowardly little btch like this administration is, so she actually sat for 11hrs of testimony.
Goodness, do you all not know what's going on? Barr agreed to testify under the House chamber rules and then Nutty Nadler tried to change them last minute. Really the only time you ever have staffers do the questioning is in some impeachment proceedings which this clearly is not - but nice try pushing a false narrative...again.

The funniest thing I've seen today is libs say he's scared to testify? Really? After 5 hours in front of the Senate owning all the libs, he's scared?

You all lost this round so bad and the fact that liberals on the Hill are trying to lie (AGAIN) is just sad (and funny) to watch.

Move on, lets talk about Trump being a racist again. That seems to be their fall back so lets do it...

Sounds like that's exactly what Pelosi has in mind. I'd be pretty cautious too if I were Barr, he's walked himself out onto some fairly treacherous ice now.


LOL - really?
Funny how the real liars to Congress under Obama never seemed to get this kind of treatment from Pelosi.

Barr - DID NOT LIE
Mueller - WORKED FOR & REPORTED TO BARR - who cares if he was upset w/ his boss.
Barr - DID NOT HAVE TO RELEASE ANYTHING

Do you libs realize you are complaining about something that Barr actually did for you in releasing the report? You are upset that he didn't release it 3 weeks earlier which was impossible by the way.

Game over - next fake scandal please?

I wish I lived in your version of reality, where things can just be dismissed with a confident declaration and every scandal is "fake" except the ones that target Democrats, convictions and the actual facts be damned.
Tell me where I'm wrong?

Barr even asked Mueller to come review his summary and Mueller declined. Then 3 weeks later he released the entire report. This is where the press has failed the citizens. If they had an ounce of integrity and actually asked tough questions to Dems then they could be held accountable. Instead they are off in the Wild West lying daily and spreading fake news dividing the country further because they can't stand not being in the White House.

Sure, it's all just a Democrat plot to get Trump and it's all made up. I mean, it's not like Trump's campaign manager chose to stay in Federal prison over telling Mueller the truth about his election-related dealings with a Russian spy. Even Trump's sycophants would agree that's pretty suspicious behavior...right?
Someone should investigate! Oh, wait...they just did.

Maybe one day y'all will actually look at and acknowledge what he found.
Gladly:

"The Office did not identify evidence of a connection between Manafort's sharing polling data and Russia's interference in the election, which had already been reported by U.S. media outlets at the time of the August 2 meeting. The investigation did not establish that Manafort otherwise coordinated with the Russian government on its election-interference efforts."




Again, whatever the truth of the matter is Manafort chose to stay in prison to protect it, and Kilimnik is unreachable by US LEOs so that's where the trail ends. If there is one skill Trump is good at, it's compartmentalizing to insulate himself. In Manafort, Trump found a loyal soldier willing to literally give up his life to instead of talking. I guess I'm just not as trusting of obvious grifters as Republicans seem to be these days.

If Hillary's campaign manager was implicated in a foreign espionage operation and went to prison for his silence on the matter, Hillary would rightly be crucified by the opposition and myself.
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HuMcK said:

Johnny Bear said:

HuMcK said:

Go away troll, adults are talking. Why don't you and Florda go jerk each other off or something? That would be more productive than your last few posts here.
When you've got nothing (which is exactly what you've got), then resort to that good ole' fall back of personal attacks - right HuMck?? Your Alinsky-ite leftist masters have indoctrinated you well.

Where's that criticism at for Olbear? I finally responded to him after multiple trolling attempts just in this thread alone, and I'm the one getting accused of personally insulting his dumb ass. Double standards are a *****.
Maybe because despite your claims, I have done a not-horrible job of staying on the topic and addressing points. I only rebuked you because you went off the deep end, and of course your response was more of the same tired tantrum.

I literally cannot find a post from you in the past month with any substance or positive contribution, Huck.

That's - seriously - a sad condition.
Sam Lowry
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HuMcK said:

Sam Lowry said:

HuMcK said:

Sam Lowry said:

HuMcK said:

riflebear said:

HuMcK said:

riflebear said:

HuMcK said:

riflebear said:

HuMcK said:

Doc Holliday said:

HuMcK said:

Told y'all he was spooked by the staff counsel questioning plan. Now let's see how far this escalates.

He's not spooked.

Democrats we're being extremely disrespectful and he isn't putting up with it.

Lol sure, that must be why he balked at targeted questioning by a staff counsel instead of the usual grandstanding questions by politicians. Remember when Hillary turned down a Congressional summons during the Benghazi hearings because Republicans were "disrespectful" towards her? Oh wait no that's not right, Hillary wasn't a cowardly little btch like this administration is, so she actually sat for 11hrs of testimony.
Goodness, do you all not know what's going on? Barr agreed to testify under the House chamber rules and then Nutty Nadler tried to change them last minute. Really the only time you ever have staffers do the questioning is in some impeachment proceedings which this clearly is not - but nice try pushing a false narrative...again.

The funniest thing I've seen today is libs say he's scared to testify? Really? After 5 hours in front of the Senate owning all the libs, he's scared?

You all lost this round so bad and the fact that liberals on the Hill are trying to lie (AGAIN) is just sad (and funny) to watch.

Move on, lets talk about Trump being a racist again. That seems to be their fall back so lets do it...

Sounds like that's exactly what Pelosi has in mind. I'd be pretty cautious too if I were Barr, he's walked himself out onto some fairly treacherous ice now.


LOL - really?
Funny how the real liars to Congress under Obama never seemed to get this kind of treatment from Pelosi.

Barr - DID NOT LIE
Mueller - WORKED FOR & REPORTED TO BARR - who cares if he was upset w/ his boss.
Barr - DID NOT HAVE TO RELEASE ANYTHING

Do you libs realize you are complaining about something that Barr actually did for you in releasing the report? You are upset that he didn't release it 3 weeks earlier which was impossible by the way.

Game over - next fake scandal please?

I wish I lived in your version of reality, where things can just be dismissed with a confident declaration and every scandal is "fake" except the ones that target Democrats, convictions and the actual facts be damned.
Tell me where I'm wrong?

Barr even asked Mueller to come review his summary and Mueller declined. Then 3 weeks later he released the entire report. This is where the press has failed the citizens. If they had an ounce of integrity and actually asked tough questions to Dems then they could be held accountable. Instead they are off in the Wild West lying daily and spreading fake news dividing the country further because they can't stand not being in the White House.

Sure, it's all just a Democrat plot to get Trump and it's all made up. I mean, it's not like Trump's campaign manager chose to stay in Federal prison over telling Mueller the truth about his election-related dealings with a Russian spy. Even Trump's sycophants would agree that's pretty suspicious behavior...right?
Someone should investigate! Oh, wait...they just did.

Maybe one day y'all will actually look at and acknowledge what he found.
Gladly:

"The Office did not identify evidence of a connection between Manafort's sharing polling data and Russia's interference in the election, which had already been reported by U.S. media outlets at the time of the August 2 meeting. The investigation did not establish that Manafort otherwise coordinated with the Russian government on its election-interference efforts."




Again, whatever the truth of the matter is Manafort chose to stay in prison to protect it, and Kilimnik is unreachable by US LEOs so that's where the trail ends. If there is one skill Trump is good at, it's compartmentalizing to insulate himself. In Manafort, Trump found a loyal soldier willing to literally give up his life to instead of talking. I guess I'm just not as trusting of obvious grifters as Republicans seem to be these days.

If Hillary's campaign manager was implicated in a foreign espionage operation and went to prison for his silence on the matter, Hillary would rightly be crucified by the opposition and myself.
Or maybe he never intended to violate his plea agreement. The case for revocation was not exactly what I'd call robust. It rested on a lot of thinly sliced semantics and speculation about his mindset. The fact that Mueller found no other evidence of any kind should carry some weight.
HuMcK
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Sam Lowry said:

HuMcK said:

Sam Lowry said:

HuMcK said:

Sam Lowry said:

HuMcK said:

riflebear said:

HuMcK said:

riflebear said:

HuMcK said:

riflebear said:

HuMcK said:

Doc Holliday said:

HuMcK said:

Told y'all he was spooked by the staff counsel questioning plan. Now let's see how far this escalates.

He's not spooked.

Democrats we're being extremely disrespectful and he isn't putting up with it.

Lol sure, that must be why he balked at targeted questioning by a staff counsel instead of the usual grandstanding questions by politicians. Remember when Hillary turned down a Congressional summons during the Benghazi hearings because Republicans were "disrespectful" towards her? Oh wait no that's not right, Hillary wasn't a cowardly little btch like this administration is, so she actually sat for 11hrs of testimony.
Goodness, do you all not know what's going on? Barr agreed to testify under the House chamber rules and then Nutty Nadler tried to change them last minute. Really the only time you ever have staffers do the questioning is in some impeachment proceedings which this clearly is not - but nice try pushing a false narrative...again.

The funniest thing I've seen today is libs say he's scared to testify? Really? After 5 hours in front of the Senate owning all the libs, he's scared?

You all lost this round so bad and the fact that liberals on the Hill are trying to lie (AGAIN) is just sad (and funny) to watch.

Move on, lets talk about Trump being a racist again. That seems to be their fall back so lets do it...

Sounds like that's exactly what Pelosi has in mind. I'd be pretty cautious too if I were Barr, he's walked himself out onto some fairly treacherous ice now.


LOL - really?
Funny how the real liars to Congress under Obama never seemed to get this kind of treatment from Pelosi.

Barr - DID NOT LIE
Mueller - WORKED FOR & REPORTED TO BARR - who cares if he was upset w/ his boss.
Barr - DID NOT HAVE TO RELEASE ANYTHING

Do you libs realize you are complaining about something that Barr actually did for you in releasing the report? You are upset that he didn't release it 3 weeks earlier which was impossible by the way.

Game over - next fake scandal please?

I wish I lived in your version of reality, where things can just be dismissed with a confident declaration and every scandal is "fake" except the ones that target Democrats, convictions and the actual facts be damned.
Tell me where I'm wrong?

Barr even asked Mueller to come review his summary and Mueller declined. Then 3 weeks later he released the entire report. This is where the press has failed the citizens. If they had an ounce of integrity and actually asked tough questions to Dems then they could be held accountable. Instead they are off in the Wild West lying daily and spreading fake news dividing the country further because they can't stand not being in the White House.

Sure, it's all just a Democrat plot to get Trump and it's all made up. I mean, it's not like Trump's campaign manager chose to stay in Federal prison over telling Mueller the truth about his election-related dealings with a Russian spy. Even Trump's sycophants would agree that's pretty suspicious behavior...right?
Someone should investigate! Oh, wait...they just did.

Maybe one day y'all will actually look at and acknowledge what he found.
Gladly:

"The Office did not identify evidence of a connection between Manafort's sharing polling data and Russia's interference in the election, which had already been reported by U.S. media outlets at the time of the August 2 meeting. The investigation did not establish that Manafort otherwise coordinated with the Russian government on its election-interference efforts."




Again, whatever the truth of the matter is Manafort chose to stay in prison to protect it, and Kilimnik is unreachable by US LEOs so that's where the trail ends. If there is one skill Trump is good at, it's compartmentalizing to insulate himself. In Manafort, Trump found a loyal soldier willing to literally give up his life to instead of talking. I guess I'm just not as trusting of obvious grifters as Republicans seem to be these days.

If Hillary's campaign manager was implicated in a foreign espionage operation and went to prison for his silence on the matter, Hillary would rightly be crucified by the opposition and myself.
Or maybe he never intended to violate his plea agreement. The case for revocation was not exactly what I'd call robust. It rested on a lot of thinly sliced semantics and speculation about his mindset. The fact that Mueller found no other evidence of any kind should carry some weight.

He was asked specific questions and intentionally concealed info relevant to the investigation, conceding the existence of facts only when it was plain to him that Mueller already knew them from other sources, i.e. he did not cooperate. That has little to do with semantics or speculation. The judge described his cooperation as "pulling teeth" and "grudging" at best.
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HuMcK said:

Sam Lowry said:

HuMcK said:

Sam Lowry said:

HuMcK said:

Sam Lowry said:

HuMcK said:

riflebear said:

HuMcK said:

riflebear said:

HuMcK said:

riflebear said:

HuMcK said:

Doc Holliday said:

HuMcK said:

Told y'all he was spooked by the staff counsel questioning plan. Now let's see how far this escalates.

He's not spooked.

Democrats we're being extremely disrespectful and he isn't putting up with it.

Lol sure, that must be why he balked at targeted questioning by a staff counsel instead of the usual grandstanding questions by politicians. Remember when Hillary turned down a Congressional summons during the Benghazi hearings because Republicans were "disrespectful" towards her? Oh wait no that's not right, Hillary wasn't a cowardly little btch like this administration is, so she actually sat for 11hrs of testimony.
Goodness, do you all not know what's going on? Barr agreed to testify under the House chamber rules and then Nutty Nadler tried to change them last minute. Really the only time you ever have staffers do the questioning is in some impeachment proceedings which this clearly is not - but nice try pushing a false narrative...again.

The funniest thing I've seen today is libs say he's scared to testify? Really? After 5 hours in front of the Senate owning all the libs, he's scared?

You all lost this round so bad and the fact that liberals on the Hill are trying to lie (AGAIN) is just sad (and funny) to watch.

Move on, lets talk about Trump being a racist again. That seems to be their fall back so lets do it...

Sounds like that's exactly what Pelosi has in mind. I'd be pretty cautious too if I were Barr, he's walked himself out onto some fairly treacherous ice now.


LOL - really?
Funny how the real liars to Congress under Obama never seemed to get this kind of treatment from Pelosi.

Barr - DID NOT LIE
Mueller - WORKED FOR & REPORTED TO BARR - who cares if he was upset w/ his boss.
Barr - DID NOT HAVE TO RELEASE ANYTHING

Do you libs realize you are complaining about something that Barr actually did for you in releasing the report? You are upset that he didn't release it 3 weeks earlier which was impossible by the way.

Game over - next fake scandal please?

I wish I lived in your version of reality, where things can just be dismissed with a confident declaration and every scandal is "fake" except the ones that target Democrats, convictions and the actual facts be damned.
Tell me where I'm wrong?

Barr even asked Mueller to come review his summary and Mueller declined. Then 3 weeks later he released the entire report. This is where the press has failed the citizens. If they had an ounce of integrity and actually asked tough questions to Dems then they could be held accountable. Instead they are off in the Wild West lying daily and spreading fake news dividing the country further because they can't stand not being in the White House.

Sure, it's all just a Democrat plot to get Trump and it's all made up. I mean, it's not like Trump's campaign manager chose to stay in Federal prison over telling Mueller the truth about his election-related dealings with a Russian spy. Even Trump's sycophants would agree that's pretty suspicious behavior...right?
Someone should investigate! Oh, wait...they just did.

Maybe one day y'all will actually look at and acknowledge what he found.
Gladly:

"The Office did not identify evidence of a connection between Manafort's sharing polling data and Russia's interference in the election, which had already been reported by U.S. media outlets at the time of the August 2 meeting. The investigation did not establish that Manafort otherwise coordinated with the Russian government on its election-interference efforts."




Again, whatever the truth of the matter is Manafort chose to stay in prison to protect it, and Kilimnik is unreachable by US LEOs so that's where the trail ends. If there is one skill Trump is good at, it's compartmentalizing to insulate himself. In Manafort, Trump found a loyal soldier willing to literally give up his life to instead of talking. I guess I'm just not as trusting of obvious grifters as Republicans seem to be these days.

If Hillary's campaign manager was implicated in a foreign espionage operation and went to prison for his silence on the matter, Hillary would rightly be crucified by the opposition and myself.
Or maybe he never intended to violate his plea agreement. The case for revocation was not exactly what I'd call robust. It rested on a lot of thinly sliced semantics and speculation about his mindset. The fact that Mueller found no other evidence of any kind should carry some weight.

He was asked specific questions and intentionally concealed info relevant to the investigation, conceding the existence of facts only when it was plain to him that Mueller already knew them from other sources, i.e. he did not cooperate. That has little to do with semantics or speculation. The judge described his cooperation as "pulling teeth" and "grudging" at best.
Maybe, maybe not. When he says "the discussion ended" and prosecutors interpret that as "the discussion ended and was never resumed on any subsequent occasion," there are arguments on both sides as to whether he intentionally concealed information. Even if he did, where's the evidence of his reasons? Sure we can speculate that it had to do with a Russian conspiracy, but where's the proof? The problem isn't just that Mueller didn't get anything from Kilimnik. It's that he didn't get anything from anywhere.
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HuMcK said:

Sam Lowry said:

HuMcK said:

Sam Lowry said:

HuMcK said:

Sam Lowry said:

HuMcK said:

riflebear said:

HuMcK said:

riflebear said:

HuMcK said:

riflebear said:

HuMcK said:

Doc Holliday said:

HuMcK said:

Told y'all he was spooked by the staff counsel questioning plan. Now let's see how far this escalates.

He's not spooked.

Democrats we're being extremely disrespectful and he isn't putting up with it.

Lol sure, that must be why he balked at targeted questioning by a staff counsel instead of the usual grandstanding questions by politicians. Remember when Hillary turned down a Congressional summons during the Benghazi hearings because Republicans were "disrespectful" towards her? Oh wait no that's not right, Hillary wasn't a cowardly little btch like this administration is, so she actually sat for 11hrs of testimony.
Goodness, do you all not know what's going on? Barr agreed to testify under the House chamber rules and then Nutty Nadler tried to change them last minute. Really the only time you ever have staffers do the questioning is in some impeachment proceedings which this clearly is not - but nice try pushing a false narrative...again.

The funniest thing I've seen today is libs say he's scared to testify? Really? After 5 hours in front of the Senate owning all the libs, he's scared?

You all lost this round so bad and the fact that liberals on the Hill are trying to lie (AGAIN) is just sad (and funny) to watch.

Move on, lets talk about Trump being a racist again. That seems to be their fall back so lets do it...

Sounds like that's exactly what Pelosi has in mind. I'd be pretty cautious too if I were Barr, he's walked himself out onto some fairly treacherous ice now.


LOL - really?
Funny how the real liars to Congress under Obama never seemed to get this kind of treatment from Pelosi.

Barr - DID NOT LIE
Mueller - WORKED FOR & REPORTED TO BARR - who cares if he was upset w/ his boss.
Barr - DID NOT HAVE TO RELEASE ANYTHING

Do you libs realize you are complaining about something that Barr actually did for you in releasing the report? You are upset that he didn't release it 3 weeks earlier which was impossible by the way.

Game over - next fake scandal please?

I wish I lived in your version of reality, where things can just be dismissed with a confident declaration and every scandal is "fake" except the ones that target Democrats, convictions and the actual facts be damned.
Tell me where I'm wrong?

Barr even asked Mueller to come review his summary and Mueller declined. Then 3 weeks later he released the entire report. This is where the press has failed the citizens. If they had an ounce of integrity and actually asked tough questions to Dems then they could be held accountable. Instead they are off in the Wild West lying daily and spreading fake news dividing the country further because they can't stand not being in the White House.

Sure, it's all just a Democrat plot to get Trump and it's all made up. I mean, it's not like Trump's campaign manager chose to stay in Federal prison over telling Mueller the truth about his election-related dealings with a Russian spy. Even Trump's sycophants would agree that's pretty suspicious behavior...right?
Someone should investigate! Oh, wait...they just did.

Maybe one day y'all will actually look at and acknowledge what he found.
Gladly:

"The Office did not identify evidence of a connection between Manafort's sharing polling data and Russia's interference in the election, which had already been reported by U.S. media outlets at the time of the August 2 meeting. The investigation did not establish that Manafort otherwise coordinated with the Russian government on its election-interference efforts."




Again, whatever the truth of the matter is Manafort chose to stay in prison to protect it, and Kilimnik is unreachable by US LEOs so that's where the trail ends. If there is one skill Trump is good at, it's compartmentalizing to insulate himself. In Manafort, Trump found a loyal soldier willing to literally give up his life to instead of talking. I guess I'm just not as trusting of obvious grifters as Republicans seem to be these days.

If Hillary's campaign manager was implicated in a foreign espionage operation and went to prison for his silence on the matter, Hillary would rightly be crucified by the opposition and myself.
Or maybe he never intended to violate his plea agreement. The case for revocation was not exactly what I'd call robust. It rested on a lot of thinly sliced semantics and speculation about his mindset. The fact that Mueller found no other evidence of any kind should carry some weight.

He was asked specific questions and intentionally concealed info relevant to the investigation, conceding the existence of facts only when it was plain to him that Mueller already knew them from other sources, i.e. he did not cooperate. That has little to do with semantics or speculation. The judge described his cooperation as "pulling teeth" and "grudging" at best.
LOL - our ambulance chasing attorneys on here think they know more than the acting AG and former U.S. attorneys. It's getting laughable. This is the comment most of the 2020 candidates and Pelosi and others want Barr to resign over. Literally 100% about nothing just to put another fake narrative out there to distract from the no collusion story. I'll give liberals one thing, they rally like no other group and when they lie they all do it together.

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HuMcK said:

riflebear said:

HuMcK said:

riflebear said:

HuMcK said:

riflebear said:

HuMcK said:

Doc Holliday said:

HuMcK said:

Told y'all he was spooked by the staff counsel questioning plan. Now let's see how far this escalates.

He's not spooked.

Democrats we're being extremely disrespectful and he isn't putting up with it.

Lol sure, that must be why he balked at targeted questioning by a staff counsel instead of the usual grandstanding questions by politicians. Remember when Hillary turned down a Congressional summons during the Benghazi hearings because Republicans were "disrespectful" towards her? Oh wait no that's not right, Hillary wasn't a cowardly little btch like this administration is, so she actually sat for 11hrs of testimony.
Goodness, do you all not know what's going on? Barr agreed to testify under the House chamber rules and then Nutty Nadler tried to change them last minute. Really the only time you ever have staffers do the questioning is in some impeachment proceedings which this clearly is not - but nice try pushing a false narrative...again.

The funniest thing I've seen today is libs say he's scared to testify? Really? After 5 hours in front of the Senate owning all the libs, he's scared?

You all lost this round so bad and the fact that liberals on the Hill are trying to lie (AGAIN) is just sad (and funny) to watch.

Move on, lets talk about Trump being a racist again. That seems to be their fall back so lets do it...

Sounds like that's exactly what Pelosi has in mind. I'd be pretty cautious too if I were Barr, he's walked himself out onto some fairly treacherous ice now.


LOL - really?
Funny how the real liars to Congress under Obama never seemed to get this kind of treatment from Pelosi.

Barr - DID NOT LIE
Mueller - WORKED FOR & REPORTED TO BARR - who cares if he was upset w/ his boss.
Barr - DID NOT HAVE TO RELEASE ANYTHING

Do you libs realize you are complaining about something that Barr actually did for you in releasing the report? You are upset that he didn't release it 3 weeks earlier which was impossible by the way.

Game over - next fake scandal please?

I wish I lived in your version of reality, where things can just be dismissed with a confident declaration and every scandal is "fake" except the ones that target Democrats, convictions and the actual facts be damned.
Tell me where I'm wrong?

Barr even asked Mueller to come review his summary and Mueller declined. Then 3 weeks later he released the entire report. This is where the press has failed the citizens. If they had an ounce of integrity and actually asked tough questions to Dems then they could be held accountable. Instead they are off in the Wild West lying daily and spreading fake news dividing the country further because they can't stand not being in the White House.

Sure, it's all just a Democrat plot to get Trump and it's all made up. I mean, it's not like Trump's campaign manager chose to stay in Federal prison over telling Mueller the truth about his election-related dealings with a Russian spy. Even Trump's sycophants would agree that's pretty suspicious behavior...right?
At what point will you believe that's exactly what the DNC is doing and tried to do? Wake up!

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Doc Holliday said:

Forest Bueller said:

Doc Holliday said:

HuMcK said:

Mueller sent two letters to Barr, and Barr intentionally sat on Mueller's executive summaries, while testifying to Congress that he did not know if Mueller approved of his 4pg "summary". These letters sure make Barr's testimony sound an awful lot like a deliberate lie to Congress.

"When Barr pressed Mueller on whether he thought Barr's memo to Congress was inaccurate, Mueller said he did not but felt that the media coverage of it was misinterpreting the investigation, officials said."
Took the time time watch a couple of hours of CNN/MSNBC, my goodness the poison you are filled with if you watch those all the time.

They have one objective, get the Trumps.
It's insane right?!

They're so unhinged that they don't realize they're crazy.


And you guys from trump's fabled 29 percent are hinged and sane?

Hey pot, this is kettle. You are black.
Oldbear83
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pitchman said:

Doc Holliday said:

Forest Bueller said:

Doc Holliday said:

HuMcK said:

Mueller sent two letters to Barr, and Barr intentionally sat on Mueller's executive summaries, while testifying to Congress that he did not know if Mueller approved of his 4pg "summary". These letters sure make Barr's testimony sound an awful lot like a deliberate lie to Congress.

"When Barr pressed Mueller on whether he thought Barr's memo to Congress was inaccurate, Mueller said he did not but felt that the media coverage of it was misinterpreting the investigation, officials said."
Took the time time watch a couple of hours of CNN/MSNBC, my goodness the poison you are filled with if you watch those all the time.

They have one objective, get the Trumps.
It's insane right?!

They're so unhinged that they don't realize they're crazy.


And you guys from trump's fabled 29 percent are hinged and sane?

Hey pot, this is kettle. You are black.
You still buy the 29% support lie?

https://www.cnn.com/2019/05/02/politics/cnn-poll-trump-economy-2020/index.html

And no, that's not from Fox News or Limbaugh.
riflebear
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HuMcK said:

riflebear said:

HuMcK said:

Doc Holliday said:

HuMcK said:

Told y'all he was spooked by the staff counsel questioning plan. Now let's see how far this escalates.

He's not spooked.

Democrats we're being extremely disrespectful and he isn't putting up with it.

Lol sure, that must be why he balked at targeted questioning by a staff counsel instead of the usual grandstanding questions by politicians. Remember when Hillary turned down a Congressional summons during the Benghazi hearings because Republicans were "disrespectful" towards her? Oh wait no that's not right, Hillary wasn't a cowardly little btch like this administration is, so she actually sat for 11hrs of testimony.
Goodness, do you all not know what's going on? Barr agreed to testify under the House chamber rules and then Nutty Nadler tried to change them last minute. Really the only time you ever have staffers do the questioning is in some impeachment proceedings which this clearly is not - but nice try pushing a false narrative...again.

The funniest thing I've seen today is libs say he's scared to testify? Really? After 5 hours in front of the Senate owning all the libs, he's scared?

You all lost this round so bad and the fact that liberals on the Hill are trying to lie (AGAIN) is just sad (and funny) to watch.

Move on, lets talk about Trump being a racist again. That seems to be their fall back so lets do it...

Sounds like that's exactly what Pelosi has in mind. I'd be pretty cautious too if I were Barr, he's walked himself out onto some fairly treacherous ice now.



Oldbear83
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pitchman said:

Doc Holliday said:

Forest Bueller said:

Doc Holliday said:

HuMcK said:

Mueller sent two letters to Barr, and Barr intentionally sat on Mueller's executive summaries, while testifying to Congress that he did not know if Mueller approved of his 4pg "summary". These letters sure make Barr's testimony sound an awful lot like a deliberate lie to Congress.

"When Barr pressed Mueller on whether he thought Barr's memo to Congress was inaccurate, Mueller said he did not but felt that the media coverage of it was misinterpreting the investigation, officials said."
Took the time time watch a couple of hours of CNN/MSNBC, my goodness the poison you are filled with if you watch those all the time.

They have one objective, get the Trumps.
It's insane right?!

They're so unhinged that they don't realize they're crazy.


And you guys from trump's fabled 29 percent are hinged and sane?

Hey pot, this is kettle. You are black.
hey kettle, Trump and Barr are innocent of any crimes.

Democrats, maybe not so much ...

https://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/democrats-may-come-to-regret-mueller-investigation-into-trump-russia-ties/

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/doj-inspector-general-confirms-year-long-investigation-into-fisa-abuse-is-still-active

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riflebear said:

HuMcK said:

riflebear said:

HuMcK said:

riflebear said:

HuMcK said:

riflebear said:

HuMcK said:

Doc Holliday said:

HuMcK said:

Told y'all he was spooked by the staff counsel questioning plan. Now let's see how far this escalates.

He's not spooked.

Democrats we're being extremely disrespectful and he isn't putting up with it.

Lol sure, that must be why he balked at targeted questioning by a staff counsel instead of the usual grandstanding questions by politicians. Remember when Hillary turned down a Congressional summons during the Benghazi hearings because Republicans were "disrespectful" towards her? Oh wait no that's not right, Hillary wasn't a cowardly little btch like this administration is, so she actually sat for 11hrs of testimony.
Goodness, do you all not know what's going on? Barr agreed to testify under the House chamber rules and then Nutty Nadler tried to change them last minute. Really the only time you ever have staffers do the questioning is in some impeachment proceedings which this clearly is not - but nice try pushing a false narrative...again.

The funniest thing I've seen today is libs say he's scared to testify? Really? After 5 hours in front of the Senate owning all the libs, he's scared?

You all lost this round so bad and the fact that liberals on the Hill are trying to lie (AGAIN) is just sad (and funny) to watch.

Move on, lets talk about Trump being a racist again. That seems to be their fall back so lets do it...

Sounds like that's exactly what Pelosi has in mind. I'd be pretty cautious too if I were Barr, he's walked himself out onto some fairly treacherous ice now.


LOL - really?
Funny how the real liars to Congress under Obama never seemed to get this kind of treatment from Pelosi.

Barr - DID NOT LIE
Mueller - WORKED FOR & REPORTED TO BARR - who cares if he was upset w/ his boss.
Barr - DID NOT HAVE TO RELEASE ANYTHING

Do you libs realize you are complaining about something that Barr actually did for you in releasing the report? You are upset that he didn't release it 3 weeks earlier which was impossible by the way.

Game over - next fake scandal please?

I wish I lived in your version of reality, where things can just be dismissed with a confident declaration and every scandal is "fake" except the ones that target Democrats, convictions and the actual facts be damned.
Tell me where I'm wrong?

Barr even asked Mueller to come review his summary and Mueller declined. Then 3 weeks later he released the entire report. This is where the press has failed the citizens. If they had an ounce of integrity and actually asked tough questions to Dems then they could be held accountable. Instead they are off in the Wild West lying daily and spreading fake news dividing the country further because they can't stand not being in the White House.

Sure, it's all just a Democrat plot to get Trump and it's all made up. I mean, it's not like Trump's campaign manager chose to stay in Federal prison over telling Mueller the truth about his election-related dealings with a Russian spy. Even Trump's sycophants would agree that's pretty suspicious behavior...right?
At what point will you believe that's exactly what the DNC is doing and tried to do? Wake up!


Stuff like that is now okay, per Barr.
Make Racism Wrong Again
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riflebear said:

HuMcK said:

riflebear said:

HuMcK said:

Doc Holliday said:

HuMcK said:

Told y'all he was spooked by the staff counsel questioning plan. Now let's see how far this escalates.

He's not spooked.

Democrats we're being extremely disrespectful and he isn't putting up with it.

Lol sure, that must be why he balked at targeted questioning by a staff counsel instead of the usual grandstanding questions by politicians. Remember when Hillary turned down a Congressional summons during the Benghazi hearings because Republicans were "disrespectful" towards her? Oh wait no that's not right, Hillary wasn't a cowardly little btch like this administration is, so she actually sat for 11hrs of testimony.
Goodness, do you all not know what's going on? Barr agreed to testify under the House chamber rules and then Nutty Nadler tried to change them last minute. Really the only time you ever have staffers do the questioning is in some impeachment proceedings which this clearly is not - but nice try pushing a false narrative...again.

The funniest thing I've seen today is libs say he's scared to testify? Really? After 5 hours in front of the Senate owning all the libs, he's scared?

You all lost this round so bad and the fact that liberals on the Hill are trying to lie (AGAIN) is just sad (and funny) to watch.

Move on, lets talk about Trump being a racist again. That seems to be their fall back so lets do it...

Sounds like that's exactly what Pelosi has in mind. I'd be pretty cautious too if I were Barr, he's walked himself out onto some fairly treacherous ice now.




Interesting.

Also, interesting I haven't seen that with online news sources yet, but they still have the Pelosi quote front and center.
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Forest Bueller said:

riflebear said:

HuMcK said:

riflebear said:

HuMcK said:

Doc Holliday said:

HuMcK said:

Told y'all he was spooked by the staff counsel questioning plan. Now let's see how far this escalates.

He's not spooked.

Democrats we're being extremely disrespectful and he isn't putting up with it.

Lol sure, that must be why he balked at targeted questioning by a staff counsel instead of the usual grandstanding questions by politicians. Remember when Hillary turned down a Congressional summons during the Benghazi hearings because Republicans were "disrespectful" towards her? Oh wait no that's not right, Hillary wasn't a cowardly little btch like this administration is, so she actually sat for 11hrs of testimony.
Goodness, do you all not know what's going on? Barr agreed to testify under the House chamber rules and then Nutty Nadler tried to change them last minute. Really the only time you ever have staffers do the questioning is in some impeachment proceedings which this clearly is not - but nice try pushing a false narrative...again.

The funniest thing I've seen today is libs say he's scared to testify? Really? After 5 hours in front of the Senate owning all the libs, he's scared?

You all lost this round so bad and the fact that liberals on the Hill are trying to lie (AGAIN) is just sad (and funny) to watch.

Move on, lets talk about Trump being a racist again. That seems to be their fall back so lets do it...

Sounds like that's exactly what Pelosi has in mind. I'd be pretty cautious too if I were Barr, he's walked himself out onto some fairly treacherous ice now.




Interesting.

Also, interesting I haven't seen that with online news sources yet, but they still have the Pelosi quote front and center.

That's because Posobiec's credibility as a journalist is essentially nil, far as I can tell he doesn't even bother citing a source for that claim, and he definitely didn't hear that directly from Mueller. OANN is also a famously Trump-friendly right-wing news source, so not exactly unbiased.
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HuMcK said:

Doc Holliday said:

HuMcK said:

riflebear said:

HuMcK said:

riflebear said:

HuMcK said:

Doc Holliday said:

HuMcK said:

Told y'all he was spooked by the staff counsel questioning plan. Now let's see how far this escalates.

He's not spooked.

Democrats we're being extremely disrespectful and he isn't putting up with it.

Lol sure, that must be why he balked at targeted questioning by a staff counsel instead of the usual grandstanding questions by politicians. Remember when Hillary turned down a Congressional summons during the Benghazi hearings because Republicans were "disrespectful" towards her? Oh wait no that's not right, Hillary wasn't a cowardly little btch like this administration is, so she actually sat for 11hrs of testimony.
Goodness, do you all not know what's going on? Barr agreed to testify under the House chamber rules and then Nutty Nadler tried to change them last minute. Really the only time you ever have staffers do the questioning is in some impeachment proceedings which this clearly is not - but nice try pushing a false narrative...again.

The funniest thing I've seen today is libs say he's scared to testify? Really? After 5 hours in front of the Senate owning all the libs, he's scared?

You all lost this round so bad and the fact that liberals on the Hill are trying to lie (AGAIN) is just sad (and funny) to watch.

Move on, lets talk about Trump being a racist again. That seems to be their fall back so lets do it...

Sounds like that's exactly what Pelosi has in mind. I'd be pretty cautious too if I were Barr, he's walked himself out onto some fairly treacherous ice now.


LOL - really?
Funny how the real liars to Congress under Obama never seemed to get this kind of treatment from Pelosi.

Barr - DID NOT LIE
Mueller - WORKED FOR & REPORTED TO BARR - who cares if he was upset w/ his boss.
Barr - DID NOT HAVE TO RELEASE ANYTHING

Do you libs realize you are complaining about something that Barr actually did for you in releasing the report? You are upset that he didn't release it 3 weeks earlier which was impossible by the way.

Game over - next fake scandal please?

I wish I lived in your version of reality, where things can just be dismissed with a confident declaration and every scandal is "fake" except the ones that target Democrats, convictions and the actual facts be damned.
Our version of reality is DJT is POTUS and will continue to be POTUS until 2024. He did nothing wrong after the most broad investigation into a President in HISTORY.

Your reality CANNOT accept that.

Why do you constantly say such obviously stupid things? Mueller's investigation was no where near as wide ranging in scope or duration as Starr's was. The Clintons were investigated, in the 90s, for a land deal that happenned in the 70s, and eventually he was impeached for lying about an affair (Brett Kavanaugh's idea to pursue that line of inquiry, btw). Hell, neither Trump or his son (or Kushner) were even questioned in person, and Mueller never even looked into his finances despite that being the most obvious area of alleged Russian entanglement. Mueller was tough on Manafort and Stone, but he handled Trump himself with kid gloves compared to Starr.
The SC raided his lawyers office violating attorney client privilege for crying out loud.

If you think the scope wasn't massive, I don't know what to tell you.
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Doc Holliday said:

HuMcK said:


Mueller was tough on Manafort and Stone, but he handled Trump himself with kid gloves compared to Starr.
The SC raided his lawyers office violating attorney client privilege for crying out loud.

If you think the scope wasn't massive, I don't know what to tell you.
I thought it was the SDNY that raided Manfort's office?
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Here's a good commentary by Benjamin Wittes in the Atlantic about why Barr's performance was so bad:

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2019/05/bill-barrs-performance-was-catastrophic/588574/

And here's an excerpt:

I was willing to give Bill Barr a chance. Consider me burned.

When Barr was nominated, I wrote a cautious piece for this magazine declining to give him "a character reference" and acknowledging "legitimate reasons to be concerned about [his] nomination," but nonetheless concluding that "I suspect that he is likely as good as we're going to get. And he might well be good enough. Because most of all, what the department needs right now is honest leadership that will insulate it from the predations of the president."

When he wrote his first letter to Congress announcing the principal conclusions of the Mueller report, I wrote another piece saying, "For the next two weeks, let's give Attorney General William Barr the benefit of the doubt" on the question of releasing the report in a timely and not-too-redacted fashion.

I took a lot of criticism for these piecesparticularly the second one, in which I specifically said we should evaluate Barr's actual performance in regard to releasing the Mueller report, and thus wait for him to act, rather than denouncing him preemptively.

Barr has now acted, and we can now evaluate his actual, rather than his hypothesized, performance.

It has been catastrophic. Not in my memory has a sitting attorney general more diminished the credibility of his department on any subject. It is a kind of trope of political opposition in every administration that the attorney generalwhoever he or she isis politicizing the Justice Department and acting as a defense lawyer for the president. In this case it is true.
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A left-wing editorial does not like Barr.

Hmm

That's about as compelling as a Rush Limbaugh rant against Holder when he was Obama's AG.

Which is to say, not at all.

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Still not seeing where Barr obstructed anything, released everything, including the 19 page summary. Had to get it redacted, that took a while, there was information that could not be made public in it, Mueller knew this, redactions were required.

Has the entire left wing become Jinx like. Frenzy constantly.

Well no there's Mayor Pete. There's Tulsi Gabbard.

But still, the most interesting thing to be uncovered has nothing to do with Trump.

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Doc Holliday said:

Jinx 2 said:

Doc Holliday said:

HuMcK said:

Doc Holliday said:

HuMcK said:

Mueller sent two letters to Barr, and Barr intentionally sat on Mueller's executive summaries, while testifying to Congress that he did not know if Mueller approved of his 4pg "summary". These letters sure make Barr's testimony sound an awful lot like a deliberate lie to Congress.

"When Barr pressed Mueller on whether he thought Barr's memo to Congress was inaccurate, Mueller said he did not but felt that the media coverage of it was misinterpreting the investigation, officials said."

At first the line was "if Mueller disagrees let him say so", as if Barr citing 1/3 of a single sentence written by Mueller wasn't shady enough, and now we find out that Mueller did speak up to Barr the next day after the Barr letter. When it was originally reported that Mueller's investigators took issue with the Barr letter, y'all whined about anonymous sources. Now, when Mueller actually puts his name to a letter calling Barr out, it's time to trust anonymous sources engaging in CYA maneuvers again. Funny how that works.
You're pushing fake news and you don't even realize it.

How many times are you going to fall for Democrat created narratives?

Mueller wanted the report to be released piecemeal to inflict the most political damage possible, since it contained no actual wrongdoing on the part of the president. This letter is pure politics.

The report was released almost two weeks ago. Very few redactions. Minimal. Only those required by law. Apparently you haven't looked at it.
Trump is your political pope. As long as he advances an agenda you approve of, he can do no wrong. If he flouts, skirts, obstructs or outright violates the law, you'll excuse that because you support him.

If Democrats controlled the media, Hillary would be president right now. The truth is nonpartisan.
Show me where he has broken the law.

YOU CANT.
He's violated the emoluments clause.

He's forced the security clearances of his own family members.

He's proven expert at getting idiots like Cohen and sleazes like Manafort to commit crimes on his behalf and at his direction while maintaining plausible deniability.

Show me this cheating businessman is in any way qualified to be POTUS. YOU CAN'T.
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Jinx 2 said:

Doc Holliday said:

Jinx 2 said:

Doc Holliday said:

HuMcK said:

Doc Holliday said:

HuMcK said:

Mueller sent two letters to Barr, and Barr intentionally sat on Mueller's executive summaries, while testifying to Congress that he did not know if Mueller approved of his 4pg "summary". These letters sure make Barr's testimony sound an awful lot like a deliberate lie to Congress.

"When Barr pressed Mueller on whether he thought Barr's memo to Congress was inaccurate, Mueller said he did not but felt that the media coverage of it was misinterpreting the investigation, officials said."

At first the line was "if Mueller disagrees let him say so", as if Barr citing 1/3 of a single sentence written by Mueller wasn't shady enough, and now we find out that Mueller did speak up to Barr the next day after the Barr letter. When it was originally reported that Mueller's investigators took issue with the Barr letter, y'all whined about anonymous sources. Now, when Mueller actually puts his name to a letter calling Barr out, it's time to trust anonymous sources engaging in CYA maneuvers again. Funny how that works.
You're pushing fake news and you don't even realize it.

How many times are you going to fall for Democrat created narratives?

Mueller wanted the report to be released piecemeal to inflict the most political damage possible, since it contained no actual wrongdoing on the part of the president. This letter is pure politics.

The report was released almost two weeks ago. Very few redactions. Minimal. Only those required by law. Apparently you haven't looked at it.
Trump is your political pope. As long as he advances an agenda you approve of, he can do no wrong. If he flouts, skirts, obstructs or outright violates the law, you'll excuse that because you support him.

If Democrats controlled the media, Hillary would be president right now. The truth is nonpartisan.
Show me where he has broken the law.

YOU CANT.
He's violated the emoluments clause.

He's forced the security clearances of his own family members.

He's proven expert at getting idiots like Cohen and sleazes like Manafort to commit crimes on his behalf and at his direction while maintaining plausible deniability.

Show me this cheating businessman is in any way qualified to be POTUS. YOU CAN'T.
Emoluments clause? LMAO

Thanks to President Trump, we are approaching the record for longest economic expansion in history, and you and the Democrats are trying to impeach him.

What clown world do you live in?
Doc Holliday
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Oldbear83 said:

Doc Holliday said:

HuMcK said:


Mueller was tough on Manafort and Stone, but he handled Trump himself with kid gloves compared to Starr.
The SC raided his lawyers office violating attorney client privilege for crying out loud.

If you think the scope wasn't massive, I don't know what to tell you.
I thought it was the SDNY that raided Manfort's office?
It was the SC/FBI.
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How did I miss this exchange last week? I'm assuming others have seen this, but if not just wait until the end for Barr's reaction when they ask for the DOJ's notes of the call between Mueller & Barr. Imagine where we would be as a country if Trump had put Barr as AG instead of Sessions from day 1. Loving this guy.

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Doc Holliday said:

Jinx 2 said:

Doc Holliday said:

Jinx 2 said:

Doc Holliday said:

HuMcK said:

Doc Holliday said:

HuMcK said:

Mueller sent two letters to Barr, and Barr intentionally sat on Mueller's executive summaries, while testifying to Congress that he did not know if Mueller approved of his 4pg "summary". These letters sure make Barr's testimony sound an awful lot like a deliberate lie to Congress.

"When Barr pressed Mueller on whether he thought Barr's memo to Congress was inaccurate, Mueller said he did not but felt that the media coverage of it was misinterpreting the investigation, officials said."

At first the line was "if Mueller disagrees let him say so", as if Barr citing 1/3 of a single sentence written by Mueller wasn't shady enough, and now we find out that Mueller did speak up to Barr the next day after the Barr letter. When it was originally reported that Mueller's investigators took issue with the Barr letter, y'all whined about anonymous sources. Now, when Mueller actually puts his name to a letter calling Barr out, it's time to trust anonymous sources engaging in CYA maneuvers again. Funny how that works.
You're pushing fake news and you don't even realize it.

How many times are you going to fall for Democrat created narratives?

Mueller wanted the report to be released piecemeal to inflict the most political damage possible, since it contained no actual wrongdoing on the part of the president. This letter is pure politics.

The report was released almost two weeks ago. Very few redactions. Minimal. Only those required by law. Apparently you haven't looked at it.
Trump is your political pope. As long as he advances an agenda you approve of, he can do no wrong. If he flouts, skirts, obstructs or outright violates the law, you'll excuse that because you support him.

If Democrats controlled the media, Hillary would be president right now. The truth is nonpartisan.
Show me where he has broken the law.

YOU CANT.
He's violated the emoluments clause.

He's forced the security clearances of his own family members.

He's proven expert at getting idiots like Cohen and sleazes like Manafort to commit crimes on his behalf and at his direction while maintaining plausible deniability.

Show me this cheating businessman is in any way qualified to be POTUS. YOU CAN'T.
Emoluments clause? LMAO

Thanks to President Trump, we are approaching the record for longest economic expansion in history, and you and the Democrats are trying to impeach him.

What clown world do you live in?
so Trump gets credit for an economic expansion that began in 2010?

he inherited a Ferrari.... he gets credit for not running it into a tree yet.
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JusHappy2BeHere said:

Doc Holliday said:

Jinx 2 said:

Doc Holliday said:

Jinx 2 said:

Doc Holliday said:

HuMcK said:

Doc Holliday said:

HuMcK said:

Mueller sent two letters to Barr, and Barr intentionally sat on Mueller's executive summaries, while testifying to Congress that he did not know if Mueller approved of his 4pg "summary". These letters sure make Barr's testimony sound an awful lot like a deliberate lie to Congress.

"When Barr pressed Mueller on whether he thought Barr's memo to Congress was inaccurate, Mueller said he did not but felt that the media coverage of it was misinterpreting the investigation, officials said."

At first the line was "if Mueller disagrees let him say so", as if Barr citing 1/3 of a single sentence written by Mueller wasn't shady enough, and now we find out that Mueller did speak up to Barr the next day after the Barr letter. When it was originally reported that Mueller's investigators took issue with the Barr letter, y'all whined about anonymous sources. Now, when Mueller actually puts his name to a letter calling Barr out, it's time to trust anonymous sources engaging in CYA maneuvers again. Funny how that works.
You're pushing fake news and you don't even realize it.

How many times are you going to fall for Democrat created narratives?

Mueller wanted the report to be released piecemeal to inflict the most political damage possible, since it contained no actual wrongdoing on the part of the president. This letter is pure politics.

The report was released almost two weeks ago. Very few redactions. Minimal. Only those required by law. Apparently you haven't looked at it.
Trump is your political pope. As long as he advances an agenda you approve of, he can do no wrong. If he flouts, skirts, obstructs or outright violates the law, you'll excuse that because you support him.

If Democrats controlled the media, Hillary would be president right now. The truth is nonpartisan.
Show me where he has broken the law.

YOU CANT.
He's violated the emoluments clause.

He's forced the security clearances of his own family members.

He's proven expert at getting idiots like Cohen and sleazes like Manafort to commit crimes on his behalf and at his direction while maintaining plausible deniability.

Show me this cheating businessman is in any way qualified to be POTUS. YOU CAN'T.
Emoluments clause? LMAO

Thanks to President Trump, we are approaching the record for longest economic expansion in history, and you and the Democrats are trying to impeach him.

What clown world do you live in?
so Trump gets credit for an economic expansion that began in 2010?

he inherited a Ferrari.... he gets credit for not running it into a tree yet.
Leftist economists like Krugman falsely predicted disaster when Trump took office:

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/projects/cp/opinion/election-night-2016/paul-krugman-the-economic-fallout

Obama's economists wrongly said Trump could not get to 3% growth:

https://www.latimes.com/business/hiltzik/la-fi-3percent-20170519-story.html



The NYT, no fans of Trump, admit he is doing an impressive job:

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/03/upshot/unemployment-inflation-changing-economic-fundamentals.html

Denial is not helping your case.
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Oldbear83 said:

JusHappy2BeHere said:

Doc Holliday said:

Jinx 2 said:

Doc Holliday said:

Jinx 2 said:

Doc Holliday said:

HuMcK said:

Doc Holliday said:

HuMcK said:

Mueller sent two letters to Barr, and Barr intentionally sat on Mueller's executive summaries, while testifying to Congress that he did not know if Mueller approved of his 4pg "summary". These letters sure make Barr's testimony sound an awful lot like a deliberate lie to Congress.

"When Barr pressed Mueller on whether he thought Barr's memo to Congress was inaccurate, Mueller said he did not but felt that the media coverage of it was misinterpreting the investigation, officials said."

At first the line was "if Mueller disagrees let him say so", as if Barr citing 1/3 of a single sentence written by Mueller wasn't shady enough, and now we find out that Mueller did speak up to Barr the next day after the Barr letter. When it was originally reported that Mueller's investigators took issue with the Barr letter, y'all whined about anonymous sources. Now, when Mueller actually puts his name to a letter calling Barr out, it's time to trust anonymous sources engaging in CYA maneuvers again. Funny how that works.
You're pushing fake news and you don't even realize it.

How many times are you going to fall for Democrat created narratives?

Mueller wanted the report to be released piecemeal to inflict the most political damage possible, since it contained no actual wrongdoing on the part of the president. This letter is pure politics.

The report was released almost two weeks ago. Very few redactions. Minimal. Only those required by law. Apparently you haven't looked at it.
Trump is your political pope. As long as he advances an agenda you approve of, he can do no wrong. If he flouts, skirts, obstructs or outright violates the law, you'll excuse that because you support him.

If Democrats controlled the media, Hillary would be president right now. The truth is nonpartisan.
Show me where he has broken the law.

YOU CANT.
He's violated the emoluments clause.

He's forced the security clearances of his own family members.

He's proven expert at getting idiots like Cohen and sleazes like Manafort to commit crimes on his behalf and at his direction while maintaining plausible deniability.

Show me this cheating businessman is in any way qualified to be POTUS. YOU CAN'T.
Emoluments clause? LMAO

Thanks to President Trump, we are approaching the record for longest economic expansion in history, and you and the Democrats are trying to impeach him.

What clown world do you live in?
so Trump gets credit for an economic expansion that began in 2010?

he inherited a Ferrari.... he gets credit for not running it into a tree yet.
Leftist economists like Krugman falsely predicted disaster when Trump took office:

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/projects/cp/opinion/election-night-2016/paul-krugman-the-economic-fallout

Obama's economists wrongly said Trump could not get to 3% growth:

https://www.latimes.com/business/hiltzik/la-fi-3percent-20170519-story.html



The NYT, no fans of Trump, admit he is doing an impressive job:

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/03/upshot/unemployment-inflation-changing-economic-fundamentals.html

Denial is not helping your case.
We haven't gotten 3% GDP growth yet, so you can't really call that prediction wrong (or right yet either, I guess). We may get there in the next couple of years, but so far Trump has just matched Obama's best GDP figure of 2.9% instead of exceeding it. The biggest difference is that Trump's 2.9% GDP growth coincided with almost double the budget deficit as Obama's 2.9% (around $440bil in 2015 vs $780bil in 2018).
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JusHappy2BeHere said:

Doc Holliday said:

Jinx 2 said:

Doc Holliday said:

Jinx 2 said:

Doc Holliday said:

HuMcK said:

Doc Holliday said:

HuMcK said:

Mueller sent two letters to Barr, and Barr intentionally sat on Mueller's executive summaries, while testifying to Congress that he did not know if Mueller approved of his 4pg "summary". These letters sure make Barr's testimony sound an awful lot like a deliberate lie to Congress.

"When Barr pressed Mueller on whether he thought Barr's memo to Congress was inaccurate, Mueller said he did not but felt that the media coverage of it was misinterpreting the investigation, officials said."

At first the line was "if Mueller disagrees let him say so", as if Barr citing 1/3 of a single sentence written by Mueller wasn't shady enough, and now we find out that Mueller did speak up to Barr the next day after the Barr letter. When it was originally reported that Mueller's investigators took issue with the Barr letter, y'all whined about anonymous sources. Now, when Mueller actually puts his name to a letter calling Barr out, it's time to trust anonymous sources engaging in CYA maneuvers again. Funny how that works.
You're pushing fake news and you don't even realize it.

How many times are you going to fall for Democrat created narratives?

Mueller wanted the report to be released piecemeal to inflict the most political damage possible, since it contained no actual wrongdoing on the part of the president. This letter is pure politics.

The report was released almost two weeks ago. Very few redactions. Minimal. Only those required by law. Apparently you haven't looked at it.
Trump is your political pope. As long as he advances an agenda you approve of, he can do no wrong. If he flouts, skirts, obstructs or outright violates the law, you'll excuse that because you support him.

If Democrats controlled the media, Hillary would be president right now. The truth is nonpartisan.
Show me where he has broken the law.

YOU CANT.
He's violated the emoluments clause.

He's forced the security clearances of his own family members.

He's proven expert at getting idiots like Cohen and sleazes like Manafort to commit crimes on his behalf and at his direction while maintaining plausible deniability.

Show me this cheating businessman is in any way qualified to be POTUS. YOU CAN'T.
Emoluments clause? LMAO

Thanks to President Trump, we are approaching the record for longest economic expansion in history, and you and the Democrats are trying to impeach him.

What clown world do you live in?
so Trump gets credit for an economic expansion that began in 2010?

he inherited a Ferrari....
LOL!!! Yep, he did. Thank God Trump's "magic wand" put the flames out.

"Stand with anyone when he is right; Stand with him while he is right and part with him when he goes wrong." - Abraham Lincoln
riflebear
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JusHappy2BeHere said:

Doc Holliday said:

Jinx 2 said:

Doc Holliday said:

Jinx 2 said:

Doc Holliday said:

HuMcK said:

Doc Holliday said:

HuMcK said:

Mueller sent two letters to Barr, and Barr intentionally sat on Mueller's executive summaries, while testifying to Congress that he did not know if Mueller approved of his 4pg "summary". These letters sure make Barr's testimony sound an awful lot like a deliberate lie to Congress.

"When Barr pressed Mueller on whether he thought Barr's memo to Congress was inaccurate, Mueller said he did not but felt that the media coverage of it was misinterpreting the investigation, officials said."

At first the line was "if Mueller disagrees let him say so", as if Barr citing 1/3 of a single sentence written by Mueller wasn't shady enough, and now we find out that Mueller did speak up to Barr the next day after the Barr letter. When it was originally reported that Mueller's investigators took issue with the Barr letter, y'all whined about anonymous sources. Now, when Mueller actually puts his name to a letter calling Barr out, it's time to trust anonymous sources engaging in CYA maneuvers again. Funny how that works.
You're pushing fake news and you don't even realize it.

How many times are you going to fall for Democrat created narratives?

Mueller wanted the report to be released piecemeal to inflict the most political damage possible, since it contained no actual wrongdoing on the part of the president. This letter is pure politics.

The report was released almost two weeks ago. Very few redactions. Minimal. Only those required by law. Apparently you haven't looked at it.
Trump is your political pope. As long as he advances an agenda you approve of, he can do no wrong. If he flouts, skirts, obstructs or outright violates the law, you'll excuse that because you support him.

If Democrats controlled the media, Hillary would be president right now. The truth is nonpartisan.
Show me where he has broken the law.

YOU CANT.
He's violated the emoluments clause.

He's forced the security clearances of his own family members.

He's proven expert at getting idiots like Cohen and sleazes like Manafort to commit crimes on his behalf and at his direction while maintaining plausible deniability.

Show me this cheating businessman is in any way qualified to be POTUS. YOU CAN'T.
Emoluments clause? LMAO

Thanks to President Trump, we are approaching the record for longest economic expansion in history, and you and the Democrats are trying to impeach him.

What clown world do you live in?
so Trump gets credit for an economic expansion that began in 2010?

he inherited a Ferrari.... he gets credit for not running it into a tree yet.
This might be one of the most misinformed crazy posts i've ever seen on the internet. Obama, is that you?
BearFan33
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Jinx 2 said:

Doc Holliday said:

Jinx 2 said:

Doc Holliday said:

HuMcK said:

Doc Holliday said:

HuMcK said:

Mueller sent two letters to Barr, and Barr intentionally sat on Mueller's executive summaries, while testifying to Congress that he did not know if Mueller approved of his 4pg "summary". These letters sure make Barr's testimony sound an awful lot like a deliberate lie to Congress.

"When Barr pressed Mueller on whether he thought Barr's memo to Congress was inaccurate, Mueller said he did not but felt that the media coverage of it was misinterpreting the investigation, officials said."

At first the line was "if Mueller disagrees let him say so", as if Barr citing 1/3 of a single sentence written by Mueller wasn't shady enough, and now we find out that Mueller did speak up to Barr the next day after the Barr letter. When it was originally reported that Mueller's investigators took issue with the Barr letter, y'all whined about anonymous sources. Now, when Mueller actually puts his name to a letter calling Barr out, it's time to trust anonymous sources engaging in CYA maneuvers again. Funny how that works.
You're pushing fake news and you don't even realize it.

How many times are you going to fall for Democrat created narratives?

Mueller wanted the report to be released piecemeal to inflict the most political damage possible, since it contained no actual wrongdoing on the part of the president. This letter is pure politics.

The report was released almost two weeks ago. Very few redactions. Minimal. Only those required by law. Apparently you haven't looked at it.
Trump is your political pope. As long as he advances an agenda you approve of, he can do no wrong. If he flouts, skirts, obstructs or outright violates the law, you'll excuse that because you support him.

If Democrats controlled the media, Hillary would be president right now. The truth is nonpartisan.
Show me where he has broken the law.

YOU CANT.
He's violated the emoluments clause.

He's forced the security clearances of his own family members.

He's proven expert at getting idiots like Cohen and sleazes like Manafort to commit crimes on his behalf and at his direction while maintaining plausible deniability.

Show me this cheating businessman is in any way qualified to be POTUS. YOU CAN'T.
Does this mean you are ready to move on from "Russian collusion" and "obstruction of justice?"
GoneGirl
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BearFan33 said:

Jinx 2 said:

Doc Holliday said:

Jinx 2 said:

Doc Holliday said:

HuMcK said:

Doc Holliday said:

HuMcK said:

Mueller sent two letters to Barr, and Barr intentionally sat on Mueller's executive summaries, while testifying to Congress that he did not know if Mueller approved of his 4pg "summary". These letters sure make Barr's testimony sound an awful lot like a deliberate lie to Congress.

"When Barr pressed Mueller on whether he thought Barr's memo to Congress was inaccurate, Mueller said he did not but felt that the media coverage of it was misinterpreting the investigation, officials said."

At first the line was "if Mueller disagrees let him say so", as if Barr citing 1/3 of a single sentence written by Mueller wasn't shady enough, and now we find out that Mueller did speak up to Barr the next day after the Barr letter. When it was originally reported that Mueller's investigators took issue with the Barr letter, y'all whined about anonymous sources. Now, when Mueller actually puts his name to a letter calling Barr out, it's time to trust anonymous sources engaging in CYA maneuvers again. Funny how that works.
You're pushing fake news and you don't even realize it.

How many times are you going to fall for Democrat created narratives?

Mueller wanted the report to be released piecemeal to inflict the most political damage possible, since it contained no actual wrongdoing on the part of the president. This letter is pure politics.

The report was released almost two weeks ago. Very few redactions. Minimal. Only those required by law. Apparently you haven't looked at it.
Trump is your political pope. As long as he advances an agenda you approve of, he can do no wrong. If he flouts, skirts, obstructs or outright violates the law, you'll excuse that because you support him.

If Democrats controlled the media, Hillary would be president right now. The truth is nonpartisan.
Show me where he has broken the law.

YOU CANT.
He's violated the emoluments clause.

He's forced the security clearances of his own family members.

He's proven expert at getting idiots like Cohen and sleazes like Manafort to commit crimes on his behalf and at his direction while maintaining plausible deniability.

Show me this cheating businessman is in any way qualified to be POTUS. YOU CAN'T.
Does this mean you are ready to move on from "Russian collusion" and "obstruction of justice?"
No. It appears that if the Trump campaign didn't collude with the Russians during the campaign, it was due to incompetence rather than lack of trying. And if Trump didn't obstruct justice, that is because his staff refused to carry out his orders.

What the investigation has proven, without a shadow of a doubt, is that Trump has a genius for getting others to engage in criminal activity on his behalf, leaving him with plausible deniability so he can throw them under the bus and let them take the hit and do the time if the scheme is uncovered. Cohen and Manafort are both in the pokey. Trump surrounds himself with sleazes and criminals. If he isn't on fire, he's certainly smoking.

Are you ready to give up the incredible hypocrisy of Republicans who won't hold Trump accountable for anything unless he's caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy? Becuase that's where we are. So much for the party of family values and moral superiority.
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Jinx has completely lost all sense of reality where President Trump is concerned.
GoneGirl
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Oldbear83 said:

Jinx has completely lost all sense of reality where President Trump is concerned.
That would be the GOP

Why do you think Trump is fighting so hard to stop McGann, Mueller and anyone else from testifying? Why won't he release his tax returns? Because he doesn't want Congress and the American people to know what's up.
RD2WINAGNBEAR86
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Jinx 2 said:

Oldbear83 said:

Jinx has completely lost all sense of reality where President Trump is concerned.
That would be the GOP

Why do you think Trump is fighting so hard to stop McGann, Mueller and anyone else from testifying? Why won't he release his tax returns? Because he doesn't want Congress and the American people to know what's up.
Yes, the Democratic Party has the exclusive on moral superiority. That is for sure.

"Stand with anyone when he is right; Stand with him while he is right and part with him when he goes wrong." - Abraham Lincoln
GoneGirl
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RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

Jinx 2 said:

Oldbear83 said:

Jinx has completely lost all sense of reality where President Trump is concerned.
That would be the GOP

Why do you think Trump is fighting so hard to stop McGann, Mueller and anyone else from testifying? Why won't he release his tax returns? Because he doesn't want Congress and the American people to know what's up.
Yes, the Democratic Party has the exclusive on moral superiority. That is for sure.


Apparently financial corruption doesn't bother you boys.

And not all conservatives buy the GOP gaslighting about Trump's corruption: https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2019/05/07/first-hold-them-contempt-then-impeach/?utm_term=.fd1f734616f5

And his refusal to release his tax returns is against the law:

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/07/opinion/trump-tax-returns-congress.html

And it ain't just me.

Llots of people are uncomfortable about the increase in white supremacy encouraged by Trumpism: https://washingtonmonthly.com/2019/05/02/conservatives-are-in-denial-about-white-supremacy/

They are also pissed that Reublicans aren't telling the truth or supporting the rule of law:

https://cleantechnica.com/2019/02/28/why-do-republicans-no-longer-care-about-democracy-the-us-constitution-christian-morals-national-security-the-rule-of-law-the-fbi-the-cia-honesty-and-us-debt/

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2018/11/trump-rule-of-law/575290/

https://washingtonmonthly.com/2019/05/01/when-will-people-realize-that-theyve-been-duped-by-republicans/

 
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