Trumps Not So Successful from 1985-1994 NYT

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J.R.
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Lost a Billion dollars. More than any other tax payer in the Country. lol . what a fraud
RD2WINAGNBEAR86
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J.R. said:

Lost a Billion dollars. More than any other tax payer in the Country. lol . what a fraud
In the late 80s, Barry Soetoro was smoking dope and kneeling on his magic carpet and praying to Mecca five times a day. What is your point?
"Stand with anyone when he is right; Stand with him while he is right and part with him when he goes wrong." - Abraham Lincoln
Booray
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1. Facts have ceased to matter to "conservatives"

2. Obama did not make dope-smoking and Mecca kneeling a central part of his campaign
Doc Holliday
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Haven't read it, but tax losses are often generated as one depreciates real estate while positive cash flow is generated and the underlying property appreciates in value.

Plus POTUS has admitted back in 97 to having major financial problems which he recovered from. In one of his books I recall reading where he claimed he lost billions...appears he's telling the truth.

Another nothing burger to distract the incoming fallout from the SPYGATE scandal.

Not surprising this came out at the exact moment damning Steele/Clinton classified leaks hit.

Looking forward to an investigation into how big media acquired these taxes and proper jail time.
RD2WINAGNBEAR86
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Booray said:

1. Facts have ceased to matter to "conservatives"

2. Obama did not make dope-smoking and Mecca kneeling a central part of his campaign
Fair enough. Donald Trump did not make losing almost a billion dollars in real estate losses a couple of decades ago a part of his campaign either. I guess that makes them even.
"Stand with anyone when he is right; Stand with him while he is right and part with him when he goes wrong." - Abraham Lincoln
BaylorFTW
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The funny thing is that the New York Times needs Trump so that it can be profitable. Without Trump, they have been a financial loser for some time. It really is amazing the standards people will make up to justify their biases that they wouldn't dare apply to their own actions or anyone on "their team." And let's not forget, that Trump bounced back and became a multibillionaire. The vast majority of us would be grateful to have a similar batting average as Trump.
Booray
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No one knows how much Trump is worth or how much he started with. Those of you who accept he has been a great success in business are speculating based on what you see on TV.

RD2WINAGNBEAR86
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Booray said:

No one knows how much Trump is worth or how much he started with. Those of you who accept he has been a great success in business are speculating based on what you see on TV.


Actually, Booray, I think you have touched on the reason why Donald Trump does not want to reveal his tax returns. I am not sure he is worth quite what he has claimed. Yes, he is a narcissist. If he has claimed to be worth $10 billion and is only actually worth $5 billion, does that make him a failure? I don't think so.
"Stand with anyone when he is right; Stand with him while he is right and part with him when he goes wrong." - Abraham Lincoln
J.R.
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RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

J.R. said:

Lost a Billion dollars. More than any other tax payer in the Country. lol . what a fraud
In the late 80s, Barry Soetoro was smoking dope and kneeling on his magic carpet and praying to Mecca five times a day. What is your point?
my point is he is full of ****
Florda_mike
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J.R. said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

J.R. said:

Lost a Billion dollars. More than any other tax payer in the Country. lol . what a fraud
In the late 80s, Barry Soetoro was smoking dope and kneeling on his magic carpet and praying to Mecca five times a day. What is your point?
my point is he is full of ****


JR you are ignorant of our president's history

Some of you mope and whine about his being given money ($1,000,000) by his dad to start. You condemn him because he was a trust baby and didn't do it on his own!

Now you see he lost it all and you say he's full of it? Well if he lost it all including dads million, then he started in early 90s $1B in hole and grew it to $10B! Did he do that on his own?

Ya can't have it both ways JR, but maybe you don't get that?

It's all in his book, "Art of the Comeback!" Read it then tell me he's a loser.

If I recall he saw a homeless person on street and thought the homeless person was $1B wealthier than him. Humility yes??? Lesson learned?

Another thing he learned was in late 80's he was more interested in hanging with celebrities and not taking care of his business. Complacency and people pleasing yes??? Lesson learned?

So our president has been down and out and came back and built an empire. If you could bury your democrat torch you'd see he's doing same for our country you fool!

And our president has learned what people pleasing and being a celebrity and hanging with em will get ya and that's dead broke if you don't take care of your business! Notice he's using that lesson learned now and how the DC celebrities hate him because he won't people please em?

There's a ton more lessons if you'd just read "Art of Deal" and "Art of Comeback" but you're probably illiterate when it comes to Trump

You should learn roots of our presidents before you vote

Then you'd know Bernie and most democrat president candidates have never had private jobs and have always been on a government check to survive. Who pays that check?
Mitch Blood Green
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RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

Booray said:

No one knows how much Trump is worth or how much he started with. Those of you who accept he has been a great success in business are speculating based on what you see on TV.


Actually, Booray, I think you have touched on the reason why Donald Trump does not want to reveal his tax returns. I am not sure he is worth quite what he has claimed. Yes, he is a narcissist. If he has claimed to be worth $10 billion and is only actually worth $5 billion, does that make him a failure? I don't think so.


Not $5B. Maybe $500M. Nothing to sneeze at.
Justin Kates
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She lost, people. Go home.
-Justin Kates
J.R.
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Florda_mike said:

J.R. said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

J.R. said:

Lost a Billion dollars. More than any other tax payer in the Country. lol . what a fraud
In the late 80s, Barry Soetoro was smoking dope and kneeling on his magic carpet and praying to Mecca five times a day. What is your point?
my point is he is full of ****


JR you are ignorant of our president's history

Some of you mope and whine about his being given money ($1,000,000) by his dad to start. You condemn him because he was a trust baby and didn't do it on his own!

Now you see he lost it all and you say he's full of it? Well if he lost it all including dads million, then he started in early 90s $1B in hole and grew it to $10B! Did he do that on his own?

Ya can't have it both ways JR, but maybe you don't get that?

It's all in his book, "Art of the Comeback!" Read it then tell me he's a loser.

If I recall he saw a homeless person on street and thought the homeless person was $1B wealthier than him. Humility yes??? Lesson learned?

Another thing he learned was in late 80's he was more interested in hanging with celebrities and not taking care of his business. Complacency and people pleasing yes??? Lesson learned?

So our president has been down and out and came back and built an empire. If you could bury your democrat torch you'd see he's doing same for our country you fool!

And our president has learned what people pleasing and being a celebrity and hanging with em will get ya and that's dead broke if you don't take care of your business! Notice he's using that lesson learned now and how the DC celebrities hate him because he won't people please em?

There's a ton more lessons if you'd just read "Art of Deal" and "Art of Comeback" but you're probably illiterate when it comes to Trump

You should learn roots of our presidents before you vote

Then you'd know Bernie and most democrat president candidates have never had private jobs and have always been on a government check to survive. Who pays that check?

Mikey. You calling ignorant is rich. His daddy gave him $411m, not $1m . Lol. Pay attention, clown
Florda_mike
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tommie said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

Booray said:

No one knows how much Trump is worth or how much he started with. Those of you who accept he has been a great success in business are speculating based on what you see on TV.


Actually, Booray, I think you have touched on the reason why Donald Trump does not want to reveal his tax returns. I am not sure he is worth quite what he has claimed. Yes, he is a narcissist. If he has claimed to be worth $10 billion and is only actually worth $5 billion, does that make him a failure? I don't think so.


Not $5B. Maybe $500M. Nothing to sneeze at.


No Tommie, real estate and rent values are in trees right now

Don't make me laugh til my tummy aches again

Fluctuates admittedly but could probably work his #s well over $10B in today's white hot market
midgett
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Never have understood the debate on Obama's birth or Trump's net worth. They are already president. It ain't gonna change anything. Trump is wealthy. The amount, I don't know.

I recall in his first bankruptcy he negotiated a monthly allowance of like $300k. I was mad. If he's bankrupt, why give him $300k PER MONTH for living expenses?

Trump knew something his bankers hadn't learned. If the bank loans you $10,000, they own you. If they loan you most of their net capital you own the bank. They depend on you paying them back.
Jack Bauer
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Didn't Trump write a book about this exact topic?
Florda_mike
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midgett said:

Never have understood the debate on Obama's birth or Trump's net worth. They are already president. It ain't gonna change anything. Trump is wealthy. The amount, I don't know.

I recall in his first bankruptcy he negotiated a monthly allowance of like $300k. I was mad. If he's bankrupt, why give him $300k PER MONTH for living expenses?

Trump knew something his bankers hadn't learned. If the bank loans you $10,000, they own you. If they loan you most of their net capital you own the bank. They depend on you paying them back.


Good stuff!

You've read about him!

Last paragraph shows he's got a handle on our debt

I've looked at that debt and we've got a lotta good debt if you're a real estate man imo

Owing Fed is extremely negotiable!

Most all others can be easily settled or negotiated down by a great negotiator and we've got one at the helm. China doesn't have jack on us with what we owe em. He could eliminate their debt in tariff negotiations and that could be what he's setting up

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J.R. said:

Lost a Billion dollars. More than any other tax payer in the Country. lol . what a fraud


Interesting. How so?
Florda_mike
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Jack Bauer said:

Didn't Trump write a book about this exact topic?


"Art of the Comeback"

It's exactly what's happening to our country now!
GrowlTowel
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J.R. said:

Florda_mike said:

J.R. said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

J.R. said:

Lost a Billion dollars. More than any other tax payer in the Country. lol . what a fraud
In the late 80s, Barry Soetoro was smoking dope and kneeling on his magic carpet and praying to Mecca five times a day. What is your point?
my point is he is full of ****


JR you are ignorant of our president's history

Some of you mope and whine about his being given money ($1,000,000) by his dad to start. You condemn him because he was a trust baby and didn't do it on his own!

Now you see he lost it all and you say he's full of it? Well if he lost it all including dads million, then he started in early 90s $1B in hole and grew it to $10B! Did he do that on his own?

Ya can't have it both ways JR, but maybe you don't get that?

It's all in his book, "Art of the Comeback!" Read it then tell me he's a loser.

If I recall he saw a homeless person on street and thought the homeless person was $1B wealthier than him. Humility yes??? Lesson learned?

Another thing he learned was in late 80's he was more interested in hanging with celebrities and not taking care of his business. Complacency and people pleasing yes??? Lesson learned?

So our president has been down and out and came back and built an empire. If you could bury your democrat torch you'd see he's doing same for our country you fool!

And our president has learned what people pleasing and being a celebrity and hanging with em will get ya and that's dead broke if you don't take care of your business! Notice he's using that lesson learned now and how the DC celebrities hate him because he won't people please em?

There's a ton more lessons if you'd just read "Art of Deal" and "Art of Comeback" but you're probably illiterate when it comes to Trump

You should learn roots of our presidents before you vote

Then you'd know Bernie and most democrat president candidates have never had private jobs and have always been on a government check to survive. Who pays that check?

Mikey. You calling ignorant is rich. His daddy gave him $411m, not $1m . Lol. Pay attention, clown


Interesting. How so?
GrowlTowel
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J.R. said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

J.R. said:

Lost a Billion dollars. More than any other tax payer in the Country. lol . what a fraud
In the late 80s, Barry Soetoro was smoking dope and kneeling on his magic carpet and praying to Mecca five times a day. What is your point?
my point is he is full of ****


Interesting. How so?
GrowlTowel
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Booray said:

No one knows how much Trump is worth or how much he started with. Those of you who accept he has been a great success in business are speculating based on what you see on TV.




Interesting. How so?
Florda_mike
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J.R. said:

Florda_mike said:

J.R. said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

J.R. said:

Lost a Billion dollars. More than any other tax payer in the Country. lol . what a fraud
In the late 80s, Barry Soetoro was smoking dope and kneeling on his magic carpet and praying to Mecca five times a day. What is your point?
my point is he is full of ****


JR you are ignorant of our president's history

Some of you mope and whine about his being given money ($1,000,000) by his dad to start. You condemn him because he was a trust baby and didn't do it on his own!

Now you see he lost it all and you say he's full of it? Well if he lost it all including dads million, then he started in early 90s $1B in hole and grew it to $10B! Did he do that on his own?

Ya can't have it both ways JR, but maybe you don't get that?

It's all in his book, "Art of the Comeback!" Read it then tell me he's a loser.

If I recall he saw a homeless person on street and thought the homeless person was $1B wealthier than him. Humility yes??? Lesson learned?

Another thing he learned was in late 80's he was more interested in hanging with celebrities and not taking care of his business. Complacency and people pleasing yes??? Lesson learned?

So our president has been down and out and came back and built an empire. If you could bury your democrat torch you'd see he's doing same for our country you fool!

And our president has learned what people pleasing and being a celebrity and hanging with em will get ya and that's dead broke if you don't take care of your business! Notice he's using that lesson learned now and how the DC celebrities hate him because he won't people please em?

There's a ton more lessons if you'd just read "Art of Deal" and "Art of Comeback" but you're probably illiterate when it comes to Trump

You should learn roots of our presidents before you vote

Then you'd know Bernie and most democrat president candidates have never had private jobs and have always been on a government check to survive. Who pays that check?

Mikey. You calling ignorant is rich. His daddy gave him $411m, not $1m . Lol. Pay attention, clown


Did ya read that in Huffpo or Slate

That's not in his books
Canada2017
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J.R. said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

J.R. said:

Lost a Billion dollars. More than any other tax payer in the Country. lol . what a fraud
In the late 80s, Barry Soetoro was smoking dope and kneeling on his magic carpet and praying to Mecca five times a day. What is your point?
my point is he is full of ****


chuckle

The dude is obnoxious....but against all odds and 80% of the national media Trump won the White House.

More importantly he has done a good job so far .

Whether Trump is worth 500 million or 5 billion is irrelevant to most folks . What they care about is his impact on their lives. So far it's been....pretty positive.

So by any measure ....Trumps had a successful life .
Mitch Blood Green
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Florda_mike said:

tommie said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

Booray said:

No one knows how much Trump is worth or how much he started with. Those of you who accept he has been a great success in business are speculating based on what you see on TV.


Actually, Booray, I think you have touched on the reason why Donald Trump does not want to reveal his tax returns. I am not sure he is worth quite what he has claimed. Yes, he is a narcissist. If he has claimed to be worth $10 billion and is only actually worth $5 billion, does that make him a failure? I don't think so.


Not $5B. Maybe $500M. Nothing to sneeze at.


No Tommie, real estate and rent values are in trees right now

Don't make me laugh til my tummy aches again

Fluctuates admittedly but could probably work his #s well over $10B in today's white hot market


You don't understand his real estate. Many of his "real estate interests" he brands, not owns. Why do you think his name has been removed from many properties?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/for-the-second-time-in-two-days-a-building-called-trump-place-decides-to-take-down-the-presidents-name/2019/02/22/cf4480d6-36b9-11e9-854a-7a14d7fec96a_story.html

You can't remove his name if he's the owner.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/2018/03/06/trumps-name-removed-panama-hotel/398259002/

https://www.thestar.com/news/gta/2017/07/17/toronto-hotel-dumps-trumps-name.html


What he seems to have done (my opinion) is represent the buildings value as part of his portfolio when what he has is a licensing agreement.
riflebear
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How many fake articles has the NYTimes put out the last 3 years on Trump?

The timing of this is obvious (DISTRACT DISTRACT DISTRACT) and if it is true everyone already knew he lost a ton of money (hence bankruptcy).

So the big question is who illegally leaked these (assuming the article is true).

So here we go again, Dems flip flop as usual when something is illegally leaked and it hurts a Republican they are cool w/ it. If it happens against a Dem they want the person thrown in jail.
Mitch Blood Green
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J.R. said:

Lost a Billion dollars. More than any other tax payer in the Country. lol . what a fraud


Trump always leaves others holding the bag. The American farmer is in real trouble.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-05-06/grains-soy-trump-tariff-threat-to-china-drives-ag-prices-lower
Florda_mike
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Fake news from proven fake news rags Tommie
Florda_mike
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tommie said:

J.R. said:

Lost a Billion dollars. More than any other tax payer in the Country. lol . what a fraud


Trump always leaves others holding the bag. The American farmer is in real trouble.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-05-06/grains-soy-trump-tariff-threat-to-china-drives-ag-prices-lower


In 6-12 months tariffs will benefit farmers

Give it time to season
J.R.
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GrowlTowel said:

J.R. said:

Lost a Billion dollars. More than any other tax payer in the Country. lol . what a fraud


Interesting. How so?

Because he's a liar and wants people to think he is something he is not. Fraud
Mitch Blood Green
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Florda_mike said:

Fake news from proven fake news rags Tommie


Everything is fake. There is no real.
Mitch Blood Green
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Florda_mike said:

tommie said:

J.R. said:

Lost a Billion dollars. More than any other tax payer in the Country. lol . what a fraud


Trump always leaves others holding the bag. The American farmer is in real trouble.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-05-06/grains-soy-trump-tariff-threat-to-china-drives-ag-prices-lower


In 6-12 months tariffs will benefit farmers

Give it time to season


It won't. Why?

We foolishly allowed competitive farmers (Brazil) to satisfy our customers demand. Getting back 100% of the lost market will not happen.
midgett
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Florda_mike said:

midgett said:

Never have understood the debate on Obama's birth or Trump's net worth. They are already president. It ain't gonna change anything. Trump is wealthy. The amount, I don't know.

I recall in his first bankruptcy he negotiated a monthly allowance of like $300k. I was mad. If he's bankrupt, why give him $300k PER MONTH for living expenses?

Trump knew something his bankers hadn't learned. If the bank loans you $10,000, they own you. If they loan you most of their net capital you own the bank. They depend on you paying them back.



You've read about him.




No. That's just common business sense.
Florda_mike
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J.R. said:

GrowlTowel said:

J.R. said:

Lost a Billion dollars. More than any other tax payer in the Country. lol . what a fraud


Interesting. How so?

Because he's a liar and wants people to think he is something he is not. Fraud


^^^ Severe TDS!

Call an ambulance
cinque
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Canada2017 said:

J.R. said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

J.R. said:

Lost a Billion dollars. More than any other tax payer in the Country. lol . what a fraud
In the late 80s, Barry Soetoro was smoking dope and kneeling on his magic carpet and praying to Mecca five times a day. What is your point?
my point is he is full of ****


chuckle

The dude is obnoxious....but against all odds and 80% of the national media Trump won the White House.

More importantly he has done a good job so far .

Whether Trump is worth 500 million or 5 billion is irrelevant to most folks . What they care about is his impact on their lives. So far it's been....pretty positive.

So by any measure ....Trumps had a successful life .
By any measure, he's a miserable husband.
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