Waco1947 said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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Waco1947 said:

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ShooterTX said:

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Waco1947 said:

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I do obey the law, and I will rejoice when that evil ruling is overturned. I'm sure you will weep once the slaughter of innocent babies stops, but the followers of Jesus will celebrate with Him.

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Just as a reminder slavery was also legal and a law for thousands of years and from the beginning of the USA. I suspect that at some point in the future hopefully people will be as compassionate about unborn babies as they became about keeping people in bondage and see that today's situation really isn't much different than that of slavery. After all slave owners had rights to control their property as they saw fit, right?

Being legal doesn't make it right....it usually just means that enough people found justification for something they wanted but knew was wrong to get it made "legal". But for convenience in most cases that is ignored.

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Protecting Women's reproductive rights is "not wrong."
That's the issue.

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No one it's taking away any "reproductive rights". We are only taking away the option to murder a baby. There is nothing "reproductive" about killing babies.
The woman still has all the "rights" to reproduce. The baby should have the right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.

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Are you willing to have the women in your life told what to do with their reproductive rights and their bodies?

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I told you twice already what my wife and daughter had to say on the subject. Since it does not present your position in a flattering light, I would expect you'd have learned by now to stop playing with the land mines, Waco.

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and I told you that you asked them the wrong question.
Here is a complete list to ask
1. Who created a woman's body? God? If so is her body sacred? Is a woman a human being? She is created by God. She is sacred. She is a human being. So is her baby, on all accounts.
2, can you rape a woman? No
3. Can you sexually assault a woman? No
4. Can you grab her by the genitals? No
5. Can you grab her because you are rich and famous? No
6. Touch her breasts without permission? No
7. Kiss her without permission? No
8. Touch her buttocks without permission? No
9. Whistle, make hooting sound at a woman walking by? Potentially a freedom of expression issue
10. If woman does not want a child does the man have a right to sabotage her contraceptives? No
11. Can her husband rape her? Rape is always illegal
12. Can he make her have a hysterectomy? No
13. Can a man manipulate a woman into sex with promises of marriage? Sure, but it isn't right to do so
14. Can a man demand oral sex or anal sex without a woman's permission? Demand all you want, but it's her decision
15. Is a woman in charge of when she wants to have a child? No. She is in charge of when she wants to get pregnant, but the baby is born on its own schedule
I believe deeply that a woman is in charge of her own body. Do you? Yes I do. The baby inside is NOT part of her body. It has its own heart, brain, legs, arms, etc. NOT PART OF HER BODY YOU IDIOT!!
You must be braindead to push that non-scientific BS.

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ShooterTX said:

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Waco1947 said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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Waco1947 said:

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ShooterTX said:

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Waco1947 said:

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blackie said:

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I do obey the law, and I will rejoice when that evil ruling is overturned. I'm sure you will weep once the slaughter of innocent babies stops, but the followers of Jesus will celebrate with Him.

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Just as a reminder slavery was also legal and a law for thousands of years and from the beginning of the USA. I suspect that at some point in the future hopefully people will be as compassionate about unborn babies as they became about keeping people in bondage and see that today's situation really isn't much different than that of slavery. After all slave owners had rights to control their property as they saw fit, right?

Being legal doesn't make it right....it usually just means that enough people found justification for something they wanted but knew was wrong to get it made "legal". But for convenience in most cases that is ignored.

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Protecting Women's reproductive rights is "not wrong."
That's the issue.

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No one it's taking away any "reproductive rights". We are only taking away the option to murder a baby. There is nothing "reproductive" about killing babies.
The woman still has all the "rights" to reproduce. The baby should have the right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.

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Are you willing to have the women in your life told what to do with their reproductive rights and their bodies?

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I told you twice already what my wife and daughter had to say on the subject. Since it does not present your position in a flattering light, I would expect you'd have learned by now to stop playing with the land mines, Waco.

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and I told you that you asked them the wrong question.
Here is a complete list to ask
1. Who created a woman's body? God? If so is her body sacred? Is a woman a human being? She is created by God. She is sacred. She is a human being. So is her baby, on all accounts.
2, can you rape a woman? No
3. Can you sexually assault a woman? No
4. Can you grab her by the genitals? No
5. Can you grab her because you are rich and famous? No
6. Touch her breasts without permission? No
7. Kiss her without permission? No
8. Touch her buttocks without permission? No
9. Whistle, make hooting sound at a woman walking by? Potentially a freedom of expression issue
10. If woman does not want a child does the man have a right to sabotage her contraceptives? No
11. Can her husband rape her? Rape is always illegal
12. Can he make her have a hysterectomy? No
13. Can a man manipulate a woman into sex with promises of marriage? Sure, but it isn't right to do so
14. Can a man demand oral sex or anal sex without a woman's permission? Demand all you want, but it's her decision
15. Is a woman in charge of when she wants to have a child? No. She is in charge of when she wants to get pregnant, but the baby is born on its own schedule
I believe deeply that a woman is in charge of her own body. Do you? Yes I do. The baby inside is NOT part of her body. It has its own heart, brain, legs, arms, etc. NOT PART OF HER BODY YOU IDIOT!!
You must be braindead to push that non-scientific BS.

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You would violate a woman's body without her permission? As #1 makes clear. The woman is a human. When and if she wants to reproduce is her choice not anyone else's.

Waco1947 said:

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ShooterTX said:

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Waco1947 said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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Waco1947 said:

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ShooterTX said:

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Waco1947 said:

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blackie said:

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I do obey the law, and I will rejoice when that evil ruling is overturned. I'm sure you will weep once the slaughter of innocent babies stops, but the followers of Jesus will celebrate with Him.

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Just as a reminder slavery was also legal and a law for thousands of years and from the beginning of the USA. I suspect that at some point in the future hopefully people will be as compassionate about unborn babies as they became about keeping people in bondage and see that today's situation really isn't much different than that of slavery. After all slave owners had rights to control their property as they saw fit, right?

Being legal doesn't make it right....it usually just means that enough people found justification for something they wanted but knew was wrong to get it made "legal". But for convenience in most cases that is ignored.

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Protecting Women's reproductive rights is "not wrong."
That's the issue.

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No one it's taking away any "reproductive rights". We are only taking away the option to murder a baby. There is nothing "reproductive" about killing babies.
The woman still has all the "rights" to reproduce. The baby should have the right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.

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Are you willing to have the women in your life told what to do with their reproductive rights and their bodies?

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I told you twice already what my wife and daughter had to say on the subject. Since it does not present your position in a flattering light, I would expect you'd have learned by now to stop playing with the land mines, Waco.

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and I told you that you asked them the wrong question.
Here is a complete list to ask
1. Who created a woman's body? God? If so is her body sacred? Is a woman a human being? She is created by God. She is sacred. She is a human being. So is her baby, on all accounts.
2, can you rape a woman? No
3. Can you sexually assault a woman? No
4. Can you grab her by the genitals? No
5. Can you grab her because you are rich and famous? No
6. Touch her breasts without permission? No
7. Kiss her without permission? No
8. Touch her buttocks without permission? No
9. Whistle, make hooting sound at a woman walking by? Potentially a freedom of expression issue
10. If woman does not want a child does the man have a right to sabotage her contraceptives? No
11. Can her husband rape her? Rape is always illegal
12. Can he make her have a hysterectomy? No
13. Can a man manipulate a woman into sex with promises of marriage? Sure, but it isn't right to do so
14. Can a man demand oral sex or anal sex without a woman's permission? Demand all you want, but it's her decision
15. Is a woman in charge of when she wants to have a child? No. She is in charge of when she wants to get pregnant, but the baby is born on its own schedule
I believe deeply that a woman is in charge of her own body. Do you? Yes I do. The baby inside is NOT part of her body. It has its own heart, brain, legs, arms, etc. NOT PART OF HER BODY YOU IDIOT!!
You must be braindead to push that non-scientific BS.

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You would violate a woman's body without her permission? As #1 makes clear. The woman is a human. When and if she wants to reproduce is her choice not anyone else's.

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You deny the humanity of a baby.
You are the dumbest person I have ever encountered on this topic.
Abortion is no different than walking into the NICU, and killing a preemie baby.
You are an evil fool.
I don't even pity you. You reject the truth. Your punishment will be horrific.

So Waco dictates what women can say, but imagines he has the high ground speaking for them.

Total hypocrite.

ShooterTX said:

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Waco1947 said:

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ShooterTX said:

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Waco1947 said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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Waco1947 said:

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ShooterTX said:

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Waco1947 said:

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blackie said:

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I do obey the law, and I will rejoice when that evil ruling is overturned. I'm sure you will weep once the slaughter of innocent babies stops, but the followers of Jesus will celebrate with Him.

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Just as a reminder slavery was also legal and a law for thousands of years and from the beginning of the USA. I suspect that at some point in the future hopefully people will be as compassionate about unborn babies as they became about keeping people in bondage and see that today's situation really isn't much different than that of slavery. After all slave owners had rights to control their property as they saw fit, right?

Being legal doesn't make it right....it usually just means that enough people found justification for something they wanted but knew was wrong to get it made "legal". But for convenience in most cases that is ignored.

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Protecting Women's reproductive rights is "not wrong."
That's the issue.

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No one it's taking away any "reproductive rights". We are only taking away the option to murder a baby. There is nothing "reproductive" about killing babies.
The woman still has all the "rights" to reproduce. The baby should have the right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.

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Are you willing to have the women in your life told what to do with their reproductive rights and their bodies?

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I told you twice already what my wife and daughter had to say on the subject. Since it does not present your position in a flattering light, I would expect you'd have learned by now to stop playing with the land mines, Waco.

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and I told you that you asked them the wrong question.
Here is a complete list to ask
1. Who created a woman's body? God? If so is her body sacred? Is a woman a human being? She is created by God. She is sacred. She is a human being. So is her baby, on all accounts.
2, can you rape a woman? No
3. Can you sexually assault a woman? No
4. Can you grab her by the genitals? No
5. Can you grab her because you are rich and famous? No
6. Touch her breasts without permission? No
7. Kiss her without permission? No
8. Touch her buttocks without permission? No
9. Whistle, make hooting sound at a woman walking by? Potentially a freedom of expression issue
10. If woman does not want a child does the man have a right to sabotage her contraceptives? No
11. Can her husband rape her? Rape is always illegal
12. Can he make her have a hysterectomy? No
13. Can a man manipulate a woman into sex with promises of marriage? Sure, but it isn't right to do so
14. Can a man demand oral sex or anal sex without a woman's permission? Demand all you want, but it's her decision
15. Is a woman in charge of when she wants to have a child? No. She is in charge of when she wants to get pregnant, but the baby is born on its own schedule
I believe deeply that a woman is in charge of her own body. Do you? Yes I do. The baby inside is NOT part of her body. It has its own heart, brain, legs, arms, etc. NOT PART OF HER BODY YOU IDIOT!!
You must be braindead to push that non-scientific BS.

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You would violate a woman's body without her permission? As #1 makes clear. The woman is a human. When and if she wants to reproduce is her choice not anyone else's.

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You deny the humanity of a baby.
You are the dumbest person I have ever encountered on this topic.
Abortion is no different than walking into the NICU, and killing a preemie baby.
You are an evil fool.
I don't even pity you. You reject the truth. Your punishment will be horrific.

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Can you command or demand or make a woman choose to get pregnant?

Waco1947 said:

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ShooterTX said:

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Waco1947 said:

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ShooterTX said:

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Waco1947 said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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Waco1947 said:

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ShooterTX said:

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Waco1947 said:

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blackie said:

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Quote:

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I do obey the law, and I will rejoice when that evil ruling is overturned. I'm sure you will weep once the slaughter of innocent babies stops, but the followers of Jesus will celebrate with Him.

---

Just as a reminder slavery was also legal and a law for thousands of years and from the beginning of the USA. I suspect that at some point in the future hopefully people will be as compassionate about unborn babies as they became about keeping people in bondage and see that today's situation really isn't much different than that of slavery. After all slave owners had rights to control their property as they saw fit, right?

Being legal doesn't make it right....it usually just means that enough people found justification for something they wanted but knew was wrong to get it made "legal". But for convenience in most cases that is ignored.

---

Protecting Women's reproductive rights is "not wrong."
That's the issue.

---

No one it's taking away any "reproductive rights". We are only taking away the option to murder a baby. There is nothing "reproductive" about killing babies.
The woman still has all the "rights" to reproduce. The baby should have the right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.

---

Are you willing to have the women in your life told what to do with their reproductive rights and their bodies?

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I told you twice already what my wife and daughter had to say on the subject. Since it does not present your position in a flattering light, I would expect you'd have learned by now to stop playing with the land mines, Waco.

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and I told you that you asked them the wrong question.
Here is a complete list to ask
1. Who created a woman's body? God? If so is her body sacred? Is a woman a human being? She is created by God. She is sacred. She is a human being. So is her baby, on all accounts.
2, can you rape a woman? No
3. Can you sexually assault a woman? No
4. Can you grab her by the genitals? No
5. Can you grab her because you are rich and famous? No
6. Touch her breasts without permission? No
7. Kiss her without permission? No
8. Touch her buttocks without permission? No
9. Whistle, make hooting sound at a woman walking by? Potentially a freedom of expression issue
10. If woman does not want a child does the man have a right to sabotage her contraceptives? No
11. Can her husband rape her? Rape is always illegal
12. Can he make her have a hysterectomy? No
13. Can a man manipulate a woman into sex with promises of marriage? Sure, but it isn't right to do so
14. Can a man demand oral sex or anal sex without a woman's permission? Demand all you want, but it's her decision
15. Is a woman in charge of when she wants to have a child? No. She is in charge of when she wants to get pregnant, but the baby is born on its own schedule
I believe deeply that a woman is in charge of her own body. Do you? Yes I do. The baby inside is NOT part of her body. It has its own heart, brain, legs, arms, etc. NOT PART OF HER BODY YOU IDIOT!!
You must be braindead to push that non-scientific BS.

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You would violate a woman's body without her permission? As #1 makes clear. The woman is a human. When and if she wants to reproduce is her choice not anyone else's.

---

You deny the humanity of a baby.
You are the dumbest person I have ever encountered on this topic.
Abortion is no different than walking into the NICU, and killing a preemie baby.
You are an evil fool.
I don't even pity you. You reject the truth. Your punishment will be horrific.

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Can you command or demand or make a woman choose to get pregnant?

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What the hell??
What kind of asinine question is that?
Why would I command someone to have sex and get pregnant? That is a choice that 2 people make together.
Good grief... why are you talking about abortion when you don't even know how a woman gets pregnant?

ShooterTX said:

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Waco1947 said:

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ShooterTX said:

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Waco1947 said:

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ShooterTX said:

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Waco1947 said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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Waco1947 said:

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ShooterTX said:

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Waco1947 said:

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blackie said:

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I do obey the law, and I will rejoice when that evil ruling is overturned. I'm sure you will weep once the slaughter of innocent babies stops, but the followers of Jesus will celebrate with Him.

---

Just as a reminder slavery was also legal and a law for thousands of years and from the beginning of the USA. I suspect that at some point in the future hopefully people will be as compassionate about unborn babies as they became about keeping people in bondage and see that today's situation really isn't much different than that of slavery. After all slave owners had rights to control their property as they saw fit, right?

Being legal doesn't make it right....it usually just means that enough people found justification for something they wanted but knew was wrong to get it made "legal". But for convenience in most cases that is ignored.

---

Protecting Women's reproductive rights is "not wrong."
That's the issue.

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No one it's taking away any "reproductive rights". We are only taking away the option to murder a baby. There is nothing "reproductive" about killing babies.
The woman still has all the "rights" to reproduce. The baby should have the right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.

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Are you willing to have the women in your life told what to do with their reproductive rights and their bodies?

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I told you twice already what my wife and daughter had to say on the subject. Since it does not present your position in a flattering light, I would expect you'd have learned by now to stop playing with the land mines, Waco.

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and I told you that you asked them the wrong question.
Here is a complete list to ask
1. Who created a woman's body? God? If so is her body sacred? Is a woman a human being? She is created by God. She is sacred. She is a human being. So is her baby, on all accounts.
2, can you rape a woman? No
3. Can you sexually assault a woman? No
4. Can you grab her by the genitals? No
5. Can you grab her because you are rich and famous? No
6. Touch her breasts without permission? No
7. Kiss her without permission? No
8. Touch her buttocks without permission? No
9. Whistle, make hooting sound at a woman walking by? Potentially a freedom of expression issue
10. If woman does not want a child does the man have a right to sabotage her contraceptives? No
11. Can her husband rape her? Rape is always illegal
12. Can he make her have a hysterectomy? No
13. Can a man manipulate a woman into sex with promises of marriage? Sure, but it isn't right to do so
14. Can a man demand oral sex or anal sex without a woman's permission? Demand all you want, but it's her decision
15. Is a woman in charge of when she wants to have a child? No. She is in charge of when she wants to get pregnant, but the baby is born on its own schedule
I believe deeply that a woman is in charge of her own body. Do you? Yes I do. The baby inside is NOT part of her body. It has its own heart, brain, legs, arms, etc. NOT PART OF HER BODY YOU IDIOT!!
You must be braindead to push that non-scientific BS.

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You would violate a woman's body without her permission? As #1 makes clear. The woman is a human. When and if she wants to reproduce is her choice not anyone else's.

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You deny the humanity of a baby.
You are the dumbest person I have ever encountered on this topic.
Abortion is no different than walking into the NICU, and killing a preemie baby.
You are an evil fool.
I don't even pity you. You reject the truth. Your punishment will be horrific.

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Can you command or demand or make a woman choose to get pregnant?

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What the hell??
What kind of asinine question is that?
Why would I command someone to have sex and get pregnant? That is a choice that 2 people make together.
Good grief... why are you talking about abortion when you don't even know how a woman gets pregnant?

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I did not ask why you would do it. I asked could man make such a demand of a woman?

Waco1947 said:

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ShooterTX said:

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Waco1947 said:

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ShooterTX said:

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Waco1947 said:

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ShooterTX said:

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Waco1947 said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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Waco1947 said:

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ShooterTX said:

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Waco1947 said:

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blackie said:

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I do obey the law, and I will rejoice when that evil ruling is overturned. I'm sure you will weep once the slaughter of innocent babies stops, but the followers of Jesus will celebrate with Him.

---

Just as a reminder slavery was also legal and a law for thousands of years and from the beginning of the USA. I suspect that at some point in the future hopefully people will be as compassionate about unborn babies as they became about keeping people in bondage and see that today's situation really isn't much different than that of slavery. After all slave owners had rights to control their property as they saw fit, right?

Being legal doesn't make it right....it usually just means that enough people found justification for something they wanted but knew was wrong to get it made "legal". But for convenience in most cases that is ignored.

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Protecting Women's reproductive rights is "not wrong."
That's the issue.

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No one it's taking away any "reproductive rights". We are only taking away the option to murder a baby. There is nothing "reproductive" about killing babies.
The woman still has all the "rights" to reproduce. The baby should have the right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.

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Are you willing to have the women in your life told what to do with their reproductive rights and their bodies?

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I told you twice already what my wife and daughter had to say on the subject. Since it does not present your position in a flattering light, I would expect you'd have learned by now to stop playing with the land mines, Waco.

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and I told you that you asked them the wrong question.
Here is a complete list to ask
1. Who created a woman's body? God? If so is her body sacred? Is a woman a human being? She is created by God. She is sacred. She is a human being. So is her baby, on all accounts.
2, can you rape a woman? No
3. Can you sexually assault a woman? No
4. Can you grab her by the genitals? No
5. Can you grab her because you are rich and famous? No
6. Touch her breasts without permission? No
7. Kiss her without permission? No
8. Touch her buttocks without permission? No
9. Whistle, make hooting sound at a woman walking by? Potentially a freedom of expression issue
10. If woman does not want a child does the man have a right to sabotage her contraceptives? No
11. Can her husband rape her? Rape is always illegal
12. Can he make her have a hysterectomy? No
13. Can a man manipulate a woman into sex with promises of marriage? Sure, but it isn't right to do so
14. Can a man demand oral sex or anal sex without a woman's permission? Demand all you want, but it's her decision
15. Is a woman in charge of when she wants to have a child? No. She is in charge of when she wants to get pregnant, but the baby is born on its own schedule
I believe deeply that a woman is in charge of her own body. Do you? Yes I do. The baby inside is NOT part of her body. It has its own heart, brain, legs, arms, etc. NOT PART OF HER BODY YOU IDIOT!!
You must be braindead to push that non-scientific BS.

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You would violate a woman's body without her permission? As #1 makes clear. The woman is a human. When and if she wants to reproduce is her choice not anyone else's.

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You deny the humanity of a baby.
You are the dumbest person I have ever encountered on this topic.
Abortion is no different than walking into the NICU, and killing a preemie baby.
You are an evil fool.
I don't even pity you. You reject the truth. Your punishment will be horrific.

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Can you command or demand or make a woman choose to get pregnant?

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What the hell??
What kind of asinine question is that?
Why would I command someone to have sex and get pregnant? That is a choice that 2 people make together.
Good grief... why are you talking about abortion when you don't even know how a woman gets pregnant?

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I did not ask why you would do it. I asked could man make such a demand of a woman?

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A man can demand anything he wants. There is no requirement for those demands to be fulfilled.
Still a very, very stupid question, with no relevance at all.

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LIB,MR BEARS said:

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Waco1947 said:

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ShooterTX said:

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Waco1947 said:

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ShooterTX said:

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Waco1947 said:

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Waco1947 said:

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Wichitabear said:

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I believe God does love us and we will be held accountable for our sins and yes, we need to ask for forgiveness. God does not rate sin. Sin is sin. Abortion is wrong. There is no getting around that.

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Abortion is wrong but trampling on Women's God given and Constitutional rights is also wrong.
Life is ambiguity

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It is a God given right to women that they have a right to control their bodies.
Again ask your wife or daughter or granddaughters
And again do some research on the Constitution and abortion especially the 14th and 5th (?) .

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Ending the life of another human being is NOT about controlling your own body.
It is a baby with a heartbeat. The mother doesn't have 2 heartbeats. You are talking nonsense.
I have extensively studied the 14th Amendment. There is nothing explicit or implied that could possibly justify abortion. The SCOTUS was wrong, and that ruling was a horrible abuse of the legal system. No solid precedent. No solid case law. Just a horrible decision by an overly activist court.
It needs to be thrown out.

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Oh! SCOTUS was wrong? Based on.........? What? YHO?

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Yes. SCOTUS was wrong. Just like Dred Scott, Plessy, Pace, Korematsu, Bowers, NFIB vs Sebelius and more. The Supreme Court is not without flaw. They are humans, and they make mistakes.
Again... there was no precedent for Roe v. Wade. There was no case law supporting the ruling, no interpretation which would equate privacy with infanticide, no justification for the ruling at all in legal terms.
They just looked into the 14th Amendment, and found something that did not exist in order to support their own beliefs.

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Ues they were wrong on those issues but you have not answered why they are legally wrong on this issue

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Shooter did answer it. Here it is again:

"was no precedent for Roe v. Wade. There was no case law supporting the ruling, no interpretation which would equate privacy with infanticide, no justification for the ruling at all in legal terms.
They just looked into the 14th Amendment, and found something that did not exist in order to support their own beliefs."
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And yet SCOTUS voted as they did and struck down the law in spite of your personal legal and moral opinion. It's the law of the land and you as a citizen must obey it.

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How does one 'not' obey it? Do law abiders have to participate in an abortion or be in violation of a law?

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Waco1947 said:

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LIB,MR BEARS said:

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Waco1947 said:

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ShooterTX said:

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Waco1947 said:

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ShooterTX said:

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Waco1947 said:

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Waco1947 said:

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Wichitabear said:

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I believe God does love us and we will be held accountable for our sins and yes, we need to ask for forgiveness. God does not rate sin. Sin is sin. Abortion is wrong. There is no getting around that.

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Abortion is wrong but trampling on Women's God given and Constitutional rights is also wrong.
Life is ambiguity

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It is a God given right to women that they have a right to control their bodies.
Again ask your wife or daughter or granddaughters
And again do some research on the Constitution and abortion especially the 14th and 5th (?) .

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Ending the life of another human being is NOT about controlling your own body.
It is a baby with a heartbeat. The mother doesn't have 2 heartbeats. You are talking nonsense.
I have extensively studied the 14th Amendment. There is nothing explicit or implied that could possibly justify abortion. The SCOTUS was wrong, and that ruling was a horrible abuse of the legal system. No solid precedent. No solid case law. Just a horrible decision by an overly activist court.
It needs to be thrown out.

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Oh! SCOTUS was wrong? Based on.........? What? YHO?

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Yes. SCOTUS was wrong. Just like Dred Scott, Plessy, Pace, Korematsu, Bowers, NFIB vs Sebelius and more. The Supreme Court is not without flaw. They are humans, and they make mistakes.
Again... there was no precedent for Roe v. Wade. There was no case law supporting the ruling, no interpretation which would equate privacy with infanticide, no justification for the ruling at all in legal terms.
They just looked into the 14th Amendment, and found something that did not exist in order to support their own beliefs.

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Ues they were wrong on those issues but you have not answered why they are legally wrong on this issue

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Shooter did answer it. Here it is again:

"was no precedent for Roe v. Wade. There was no case law supporting the ruling, no interpretation which would equate privacy with infanticide, no justification for the ruling at all in legal terms.
They just looked into the 14th Amendment, and found something that did not exist in order to support their own beliefs."
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And yet SCOTUS voted as they did and struck down the law in spite of your personal legal and moral opinion. It's the law of the land and you as a citizen must obey it.

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How does one 'not' obey it? Do law abiders have to participate in an abortion or be in violation of a law?

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Not yet, but they're working on it.

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I do obey the law, and I will rejoice when that evil ruling is overturned. I'm sure you will weep once the slaughter of innocent babies stops, but the followers of Jesus will celebrate with Him.

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Just as a reminder slavery was also legal and a law for thousands of years and from the beginning of the USA. I suspect that at some point in the future hopefully people will be as compassionate about unborn babies as they became about keeping people in bondage and see that today's situation really isn't much different than that of slavery. After all slave owners had rights to control their property as they saw fit, right?

Being legal doesn't make it right....it usually just means that enough people found justification for something they wanted but knew was wrong to get it made "legal". But for convenience in most cases that is ignored.

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Protecting Women's reproductive rights is "not wrong."
That's the issue.

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No one it's taking away any "reproductive rights". We are only taking away the option to murder a baby. There is nothing "reproductive" about killing babies.
The woman still has all the "rights" to reproduce. The baby should have the right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.

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Are you willing to have the women in your life told what to do with their reproductive rights and their bodies?

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I told you twice already what my wife and daughter had to say on the subject. Since it does not present your position in a flattering light, I would expect you'd have learned by now to stop playing with the land mines, Waco.

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and I told you that you asked them the wrong question.
Here is a complete list to ask
1. Who created a woman's body? God? If so is her body sacred? Is a woman a human being? She is created by God. She is sacred. She is a human being. So is her baby, on all accounts.
2, can you rape a woman? No
3. Can you sexually assault a woman? No
4. Can you grab her by the genitals? No
5. Can you grab her because you are rich and famous? No
6. Touch her breasts without permission? No
7. Kiss her without permission? No
8. Touch her buttocks without permission? No
9. Whistle, make hooting sound at a woman walking by? Potentially a freedom of expression issue
10. If woman does not want a child does the man have a right to sabotage her contraceptives? No
11. Can her husband rape her? Rape is always illegal
12. Can he make her have a hysterectomy? No
13. Can a man manipulate a woman into sex with promises of marriage? Sure, but it isn't right to do so
14. Can a man demand oral sex or anal sex without a woman's permission? Demand all you want, but it's her decision
15. Is a woman in charge of when she wants to have a child? No. She is in charge of when she wants to get pregnant, but the baby is born on its own schedule
I believe deeply that a woman is in charge of her own body. Do you? Yes I do. The baby inside is NOT part of her body. It has its own heart, brain, legs, arms, etc. NOT PART OF HER BODY YOU IDIOT!!
You must be braindead to push that non-scientific BS.

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You would violate a woman's body without her permission? As #1 makes clear. The woman is a human. When and if she wants to reproduce is her choice not anyone else's.

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You deny the humanity of a baby.
You are the dumbest person I have ever encountered on this topic.
Abortion is no different than walking into the NICU, and killing a preemie baby.
You are an evil fool.
I don't even pity you. You reject the truth. Your punishment will be horrific.

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Can you command or demand or make a woman choose to get pregnant?

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What the hell??
What kind of asinine question is that?
Why would I command someone to have sex and get pregnant? That is a choice that 2 people make together.
Good grief... why are you talking about abortion when you don't even know how a woman gets pregnant?

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I did not ask why you would do it. I asked could man make such a demand of a woman?

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A man can demand anything he wants. There is no requirement for those demands to be fulfilled.
Still a very, very stupid question, with no relevance at all.

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Ypu keep begging the question. Can demand a woman get pregnant or is she in control of her body? The answer is "No you cannot." But you refuse to acknowledge that fact. Why? Because you know it means that "The woman is control of her reproductive rights." Which means pro choice is right. Sadly, it's a conundrum and you and the government are in control of that decision.

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I do obey the law, and I will rejoice when that evil ruling is overturned. I'm sure you will weep once the slaughter of innocent babies stops, but the followers of Jesus will celebrate with Him.

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Just as a reminder slavery was also legal and a law for thousands of years and from the beginning of the USA. I suspect that at some point in the future hopefully people will be as compassionate about unborn babies as they became about keeping people in bondage and see that today's situation really isn't much different than that of slavery. After all slave owners had rights to control their property as they saw fit, right?

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Protecting Women's reproductive rights is "not wrong."
That's the issue.

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No one it's taking away any "reproductive rights". We are only taking away the option to murder a baby. There is nothing "reproductive" about killing babies.
The woman still has all the "rights" to reproduce. The baby should have the right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.

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Are you willing to have the women in your life told what to do with their reproductive rights and their bodies?

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I told you twice already what my wife and daughter had to say on the subject. Since it does not present your position in a flattering light, I would expect you'd have learned by now to stop playing with the land mines, Waco.

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and I told you that you asked them the wrong question.
Here is a complete list to ask
1. Who created a woman's body? God? If so is her body sacred? Is a woman a human being? She is created by God. She is sacred. She is a human being. So is her baby, on all accounts.
2, can you rape a woman? No
3. Can you sexually assault a woman? No
4. Can you grab her by the genitals? No
5. Can you grab her because you are rich and famous? No
6. Touch her breasts without permission? No
7. Kiss her without permission? No
8. Touch her buttocks without permission? No
9. Whistle, make hooting sound at a woman walking by? Potentially a freedom of expression issue
10. If woman does not want a child does the man have a right to sabotage her contraceptives? No
11. Can her husband rape her? Rape is always illegal
12. Can he make her have a hysterectomy? No
13. Can a man manipulate a woman into sex with promises of marriage? Sure, but it isn't right to do so
14. Can a man demand oral sex or anal sex without a woman's permission? Demand all you want, but it's her decision
15. Is a woman in charge of when she wants to have a child? No. She is in charge of when she wants to get pregnant, but the baby is born on its own schedule
I believe deeply that a woman is in charge of her own body. Do you? Yes I do. The baby inside is NOT part of her body. It has its own heart, brain, legs, arms, etc. NOT PART OF HER BODY YOU IDIOT!!
You must be braindead to push that non-scientific BS.

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You would violate a woman's body without her permission? As #1 makes clear. The woman is a human. When and if she wants to reproduce is her choice not anyone else's.

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You deny the humanity of a baby.
You are the dumbest person I have ever encountered on this topic.
Abortion is no different than walking into the NICU, and killing a preemie baby.
You are an evil fool.
I don't even pity you. You reject the truth. Your punishment will be horrific.

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Can you command or demand or make a woman choose to get pregnant?

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What the hell??
What kind of asinine question is that?
Why would I command someone to have sex and get pregnant? That is a choice that 2 people make together.
Good grief... why are you talking about abortion when you don't even know how a woman gets pregnant?

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I did not ask why you would do it. I asked could man make such a demand of a woman?

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A man can demand anything he wants. There is no requirement for those demands to be fulfilled.
Still a very, very stupid question, with no relevance at all.

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Ypu keep begging the question. Can demand a woman get pregnant or is she in control of her body? The answer is "No you cannot." But you refuse to acknowledge that fact. Why? Because you know it means that "The woman is control of her reproductive rights." Which means pro choice is right. Sadly, it's a conundrum and you and the government are in control of that decision.

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What the hell are you talking about?

Yes, she had control over getting pregnant. So what?

Once she is pregnant, she has no more right to kill an innocent baby than she did before she was pregnant. She can chop off her own leg, or remove her appendix, but the baby is NOT part of her body.

No one forces a woman to get pregnant. It's her decision to get pregnant or not. Once she has successfully used her "reproductive rights" to conceive a baby... her decisions are done. Infanticide is not a part of reproduction. It never has been, and it never will be. Only a fool believes that baby killing is the same thing as using a condom or taking the pill. Contraceptives are to stop pregnancy from occurring. Abortion is to kill an unwanted baby. Do you understand?

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Ypu keep begging the question. Can demand a woman get pregnant or is she in control of her body? The answer is "No you cannot." But you refuse to acknowledge that fact. Why? Because you know it means that "The woman is control of her reproductive rights." Which means pro choice is right. Sadly, it's a conundrum and you and the government are in control of that decision.

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Sad really, to see the lengths to which evil men will try to justify the slaughter of innocents.