Epstein - The Scumbaggery Goes Deep

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Florda_mike
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^^^ This is just an inexperienced child that needs to shut up and watch the world for a couple of decades, maybe three, and gain some experience of how things actually happen in real life

He has no street smarts at all

So I pray someone gets through to him that he needs to stfu because he knows pretty much nothing
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BrooksBearLives said:

trey3216 said:

BrooksBearLives said:

ValhallaBear said:

Textbook Mossad...

So, apologies in advance, but I want to do a quick little THREAD to explain my theory of what the Epstein story really is. I promise this isn't some crazy Pizzagate conspiracy about space lizards, just a neat little explanation that IMO perfectly fits the known facts (0/13):

(1/13) Let's take as our starting points two givens.
(A.) You are a committed, unrepentant pedophile
(B.) Because of your old job in private banking, you are very connected to lots of very, very wealthy people
We'll also assume a goal:
(Z.) You want to become very rich

(2/13) The obvious route is, well, obvious: you could just be a pimp, offering underage prostitute services to very rich people. This has two problems: you're very disposable (see: DC madam), and it's also not super lucrative. You can't charge millions of dollars up front.

(3/13) The second level though follows instantly: You don't need to charge up front, just get them to have underage sex, and then blackmail them afterwards for hush money. Better ROI, but you're still a liability, and producing and receiving big bribe money raises big questions.

(4/13) So, what to do? Well, the second idea has some merits. First, you need to recruit people in. Have lots of massive parties at your spacious home (check), invite top academics, artists, politicians to encourage people to come (check), and supply lots of young women (check)

(5/13) You don't even have to do anything, and most people invited might even be totally unaware of the real purpose of the parties! But, sooner or later, some billionaire will get handsy, she'll escort him to a room with a hidden camera, things happen. Morning after, you strike.

(6/13) You inform him she was really 15, but you offer him a nice, neat way to buy your silence: a large allocation to your hedge fund, which charges 2/20 (check). To ensure nobody else asks questions, you also take the extraordinary step of demanding power of attorney (check)

(7/13) The fund is offshore in a tax haven (check) and nobody will see the client list (check). Of course, you don't really know anything about investing, instead making up some nonsense about currency trading (check), and nobody on Wall Street has ever traded with you (check)

(8/13) The fund itself doesn't need investment personnel (check), only some back office people to process the wires (check). You don't want to money from non-pedophiles, or they'll notice you've just put it in a S&P 500 fund, so you reject all incoming inquiries (check)

(9/13) A $20 million wire from Billionaire X to you with no obvious reason will raise many questions, and the IRS will certainly want to know what you did to warrant it. A $5 million quarterly fee for managing $1 billion in assets? Nobody bats an eye.

(10/13) Because of this structure, you're extraordinarily secretive about client lists (check) because they aren't clients, they're pedophiles paying you bribes, and they also are very secretive, which is why no letters or return streams ever leak (check)

(11/13) Occasionally you may also try this trick on other people: important political figures, mayors, prosecutors, etc. They don't invest in the fund, but it's nice to have them in your pocket. Others (academics, artists, etc.) can just be bought with money as a PR smokescreen.

(12/13) And, of course, the scam can be kept going as long as people are willing to pay, which is forever. If you're ever caught, just lean on some of your other friends in government to lean on the prosecutor to get you a sweetheart deal. There's almost zero risk.

(13/13) And the last piece of the puzzle is the evidence. You'd want it somewhere remote, but accessible: a place the US can't touch but you have an excuse to visit all the time to update. Remember that offshore fund?

I bet there's a *very* interesting safe deposit box there.

Two small points of clarification:
1. This scheme works just as well if the billionaires are in on it from the getgo as a way to buy sex; I assumed that was obvious but I guess not.
2. There's no need to invoke the Mafia/Russia/Mossad/CIA/etc, that's just needlessly overfitting.

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1148303671857491968.html
https://digest.bps.org.uk/2017/04/05/why-more-highly-educated-people-are-less-into-conspiracy-theories/
His argument really isn't a conspiracy theory. It's actually closer to Occam's Razor. And it doesn't even have to involve Mossad or other foreign intelligence agencies. It could be that he's just a dude that found an easy way to swindle other powerful people out of hundreds of millions of dollars, and do it in plain sight (basically a legally, aside from the pedophilia backdrop).


1. It's not HIS argument. It's one he stole from somewhere else.

2. He argues it's MOSSAD pretty clearly. He wants to believe this as it allows him to clear Trump and make him a victim.

3. It all falls apart if you read actual accounts by the victims themselves -and there are many and they are pretty strong.

Epstein was having underage women come to give him massages and more at his house, with no one else around. HE was the one doing it. If he was blackmailing anyone, why has none of it surfaced? This is the time to play those cards.

Occam's razor says this is a dude who used his position of power to do ****ty things to women. No intricate schemes, just a dude with power taking advantage of young women.


I'm well aware it's not his argument. I'm also aware he thinks that makes it Mossad.

I'm just saying that there are most certainly other people involved in this, and he used his hedge fund as a pretty legit looking front for: 1) the other sick pedos to pay for it without looking like it's illegal money, or 2) he held them over the barrel with his hedge fund after they found out they were diddling kids, or both.
Mr. Treehorn treats objects like women, man.
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BrooksBearLives said:

trey3216 said:

BrooksBearLives said:

ValhallaBear said:

Textbook Mossad...

So, apologies in advance, but I want to do a quick little THREAD to explain my theory of what the Epstein story really is. I promise this isn't some crazy Pizzagate conspiracy about space lizards, just a neat little explanation that IMO perfectly fits the known facts (0/13):

(1/13) Let's take as our starting points two givens.
(A.) You are a committed, unrepentant pedophile
(B.) Because of your old job in private banking, you are very connected to lots of very, very wealthy people
We'll also assume a goal:
(Z.) You want to become very rich

(2/13) The obvious route is, well, obvious: you could just be a pimp, offering underage prostitute services to very rich people. This has two problems: you're very disposable (see: DC madam), and it's also not super lucrative. You can't charge millions of dollars up front.

(3/13) The second level though follows instantly: You don't need to charge up front, just get them to have underage sex, and then blackmail them afterwards for hush money. Better ROI, but you're still a liability, and producing and receiving big bribe money raises big questions.

(4/13) So, what to do? Well, the second idea has some merits. First, you need to recruit people in. Have lots of massive parties at your spacious home (check), invite top academics, artists, politicians to encourage people to come (check), and supply lots of young women (check)

(5/13) You don't even have to do anything, and most people invited might even be totally unaware of the real purpose of the parties! But, sooner or later, some billionaire will get handsy, she'll escort him to a room with a hidden camera, things happen. Morning after, you strike.

(6/13) You inform him she was really 15, but you offer him a nice, neat way to buy your silence: a large allocation to your hedge fund, which charges 2/20 (check). To ensure nobody else asks questions, you also take the extraordinary step of demanding power of attorney (check)

(7/13) The fund is offshore in a tax haven (check) and nobody will see the client list (check). Of course, you don't really know anything about investing, instead making up some nonsense about currency trading (check), and nobody on Wall Street has ever traded with you (check)

(8/13) The fund itself doesn't need investment personnel (check), only some back office people to process the wires (check). You don't want to money from non-pedophiles, or they'll notice you've just put it in a S&P 500 fund, so you reject all incoming inquiries (check)

(9/13) A $20 million wire from Billionaire X to you with no obvious reason will raise many questions, and the IRS will certainly want to know what you did to warrant it. A $5 million quarterly fee for managing $1 billion in assets? Nobody bats an eye.

(10/13) Because of this structure, you're extraordinarily secretive about client lists (check) because they aren't clients, they're pedophiles paying you bribes, and they also are very secretive, which is why no letters or return streams ever leak (check)

(11/13) Occasionally you may also try this trick on other people: important political figures, mayors, prosecutors, etc. They don't invest in the fund, but it's nice to have them in your pocket. Others (academics, artists, etc.) can just be bought with money as a PR smokescreen.

(12/13) And, of course, the scam can be kept going as long as people are willing to pay, which is forever. If you're ever caught, just lean on some of your other friends in government to lean on the prosecutor to get you a sweetheart deal. There's almost zero risk.

(13/13) And the last piece of the puzzle is the evidence. You'd want it somewhere remote, but accessible: a place the US can't touch but you have an excuse to visit all the time to update. Remember that offshore fund?

I bet there's a *very* interesting safe deposit box there.

Two small points of clarification:
1. This scheme works just as well if the billionaires are in on it from the getgo as a way to buy sex; I assumed that was obvious but I guess not.
2. There's no need to invoke the Mafia/Russia/Mossad/CIA/etc, that's just needlessly overfitting.

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1148303671857491968.html
https://digest.bps.org.uk/2017/04/05/why-more-highly-educated-people-are-less-into-conspiracy-theories/
His argument really isn't a conspiracy theory. It's actually closer to Occam's Razor. And it doesn't even have to involve Mossad or other foreign intelligence agencies. It could be that he's just a dude that found an easy way to swindle other powerful people out of hundreds of millions of dollars, and do it in plain sight (basically a legally, aside from the pedophilia backdrop).


1. It's not HIS argument. It's one he stole from somewhere else.

2. He argues it's MOSSAD pretty clearly. He wants to believe this as it allows him to clear Trump and make him a victim.

3. It all falls apart if you read actual accounts by the victims themselves -and there are many and they are pretty strong.

Epstein was having underage women come to give him massages and more at his house, with no one else around. HE was the one doing it. If he was blackmailing anyone, why has none of it surfaced? This is the time to play those cards.

Occam's razor says this is a dude who used his position of power to do ****ty things to women. No intricate schemes, just a dude with power taking advantage of young women.
This is actually quite a pathetic attempt at a rebuttal....

I've said from day one that he is a Mossad agent...The Twitter thread I stole was adding color to how someone with his past and experience could pose as a billionaire hedge fund manager. Trump doesn't need to be cleared....he wasn't involved

The first point in the Twitter thread I stole is how Epstein is the perfect front man for this operation specifically because he is an unrepentant child molestor so he could indulge in his lifestyle all while running his honeypot operation.

Blackmail works specifically because it doesn't surface. That's how it works you idiot.

I feel like I just wasted a minute of my life trying to explain something to a simple minded child
Florda_mike
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trey3216 said:

BrooksBearLives said:

trey3216 said:

BrooksBearLives said:

ValhallaBear said:

Textbook Mossad...

So, apologies in advance, but I want to do a quick little THREAD to explain my theory of what the Epstein story really is. I promise this isn't some crazy Pizzagate conspiracy about space lizards, just a neat little explanation that IMO perfectly fits the known facts (0/13):

(1/13) Let's take as our starting points two givens.
(A.) You are a committed, unrepentant pedophile
(B.) Because of your old job in private banking, you are very connected to lots of very, very wealthy people
We'll also assume a goal:
(Z.) You want to become very rich

(2/13) The obvious route is, well, obvious: you could just be a pimp, offering underage prostitute services to very rich people. This has two problems: you're very disposable (see: DC madam), and it's also not super lucrative. You can't charge millions of dollars up front.

(3/13) The second level though follows instantly: You don't need to charge up front, just get them to have underage sex, and then blackmail them afterwards for hush money. Better ROI, but you're still a liability, and producing and receiving big bribe money raises big questions.

(4/13) So, what to do? Well, the second idea has some merits. First, you need to recruit people in. Have lots of massive parties at your spacious home (check), invite top academics, artists, politicians to encourage people to come (check), and supply lots of young women (check)

(5/13) You don't even have to do anything, and most people invited might even be totally unaware of the real purpose of the parties! But, sooner or later, some billionaire will get handsy, she'll escort him to a room with a hidden camera, things happen. Morning after, you strike.

(6/13) You inform him she was really 15, but you offer him a nice, neat way to buy your silence: a large allocation to your hedge fund, which charges 2/20 (check). To ensure nobody else asks questions, you also take the extraordinary step of demanding power of attorney (check)

(7/13) The fund is offshore in a tax haven (check) and nobody will see the client list (check). Of course, you don't really know anything about investing, instead making up some nonsense about currency trading (check), and nobody on Wall Street has ever traded with you (check)

(8/13) The fund itself doesn't need investment personnel (check), only some back office people to process the wires (check). You don't want to money from non-pedophiles, or they'll notice you've just put it in a S&P 500 fund, so you reject all incoming inquiries (check)

(9/13) A $20 million wire from Billionaire X to you with no obvious reason will raise many questions, and the IRS will certainly want to know what you did to warrant it. A $5 million quarterly fee for managing $1 billion in assets? Nobody bats an eye.

(10/13) Because of this structure, you're extraordinarily secretive about client lists (check) because they aren't clients, they're pedophiles paying you bribes, and they also are very secretive, which is why no letters or return streams ever leak (check)

(11/13) Occasionally you may also try this trick on other people: important political figures, mayors, prosecutors, etc. They don't invest in the fund, but it's nice to have them in your pocket. Others (academics, artists, etc.) can just be bought with money as a PR smokescreen.

(12/13) And, of course, the scam can be kept going as long as people are willing to pay, which is forever. If you're ever caught, just lean on some of your other friends in government to lean on the prosecutor to get you a sweetheart deal. There's almost zero risk.

(13/13) And the last piece of the puzzle is the evidence. You'd want it somewhere remote, but accessible: a place the US can't touch but you have an excuse to visit all the time to update. Remember that offshore fund?

I bet there's a *very* interesting safe deposit box there.

Two small points of clarification:
1. This scheme works just as well if the billionaires are in on it from the getgo as a way to buy sex; I assumed that was obvious but I guess not.
2. There's no need to invoke the Mafia/Russia/Mossad/CIA/etc, that's just needlessly overfitting.

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1148303671857491968.html
https://digest.bps.org.uk/2017/04/05/why-more-highly-educated-people-are-less-into-conspiracy-theories/
His argument really isn't a conspiracy theory. It's actually closer to Occam's Razor. And it doesn't even have to involve Mossad or other foreign intelligence agencies. It could be that he's just a dude that found an easy way to swindle other powerful people out of hundreds of millions of dollars, and do it in plain sight (basically a legally, aside from the pedophilia backdrop).


1. It's not HIS argument. It's one he stole from somewhere else.

2. He argues it's MOSSAD pretty clearly. He wants to believe this as it allows him to clear Trump and make him a victim.

3. It all falls apart if you read actual accounts by the victims themselves -and there are many and they are pretty strong.

Epstein was having underage women come to give him massages and more at his house, with no one else around. HE was the one doing it. If he was blackmailing anyone, why has none of it surfaced? This is the time to play those cards.

Occam's razor says this is a dude who used his position of power to do ****ty things to women. No intricate schemes, just a dude with power taking advantage of young women.


I'm well aware it's not his argument. I'm also aware he thinks that makes it Mossad.

I'm just saying that there are most certainly other people involved in this, and he used his hedge fund as a pretty legit looking front for: 1) the other sick pedos to pay for it without looking like it's illegal money, or 2) he held them over the barrel with his hedge fund after they found out they were diddling kids, or both.


Agree and there's probably a 3, 4, 5, etc too
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ValhallaBear said:

BrooksBearLives said:

trey3216 said:

BrooksBearLives said:

ValhallaBear said:

Textbook Mossad...

So, apologies in advance, but I want to do a quick little THREAD to explain my theory of what the Epstein story really is. I promise this isn't some crazy Pizzagate conspiracy about space lizards, just a neat little explanation that IMO perfectly fits the known facts (0/13):

(1/13) Let's take as our starting points two givens.
(A.) You are a committed, unrepentant pedophile
(B.) Because of your old job in private banking, you are very connected to lots of very, very wealthy people
We'll also assume a goal:
(Z.) You want to become very rich

(2/13) The obvious route is, well, obvious: you could just be a pimp, offering underage prostitute services to very rich people. This has two problems: you're very disposable (see: DC madam), and it's also not super lucrative. You can't charge millions of dollars up front.

(3/13) The second level though follows instantly: You don't need to charge up front, just get them to have underage sex, and then blackmail them afterwards for hush money. Better ROI, but you're still a liability, and producing and receiving big bribe money raises big questions.

(4/13) So, what to do? Well, the second idea has some merits. First, you need to recruit people in. Have lots of massive parties at your spacious home (check), invite top academics, artists, politicians to encourage people to come (check), and supply lots of young women (check)

(5/13) You don't even have to do anything, and most people invited might even be totally unaware of the real purpose of the parties! But, sooner or later, some billionaire will get handsy, she'll escort him to a room with a hidden camera, things happen. Morning after, you strike.

(6/13) You inform him she was really 15, but you offer him a nice, neat way to buy your silence: a large allocation to your hedge fund, which charges 2/20 (check). To ensure nobody else asks questions, you also take the extraordinary step of demanding power of attorney (check)

(7/13) The fund is offshore in a tax haven (check) and nobody will see the client list (check). Of course, you don't really know anything about investing, instead making up some nonsense about currency trading (check), and nobody on Wall Street has ever traded with you (check)

(8/13) The fund itself doesn't need investment personnel (check), only some back office people to process the wires (check). You don't want to money from non-pedophiles, or they'll notice you've just put it in a S&P 500 fund, so you reject all incoming inquiries (check)

(9/13) A $20 million wire from Billionaire X to you with no obvious reason will raise many questions, and the IRS will certainly want to know what you did to warrant it. A $5 million quarterly fee for managing $1 billion in assets? Nobody bats an eye.

(10/13) Because of this structure, you're extraordinarily secretive about client lists (check) because they aren't clients, they're pedophiles paying you bribes, and they also are very secretive, which is why no letters or return streams ever leak (check)

(11/13) Occasionally you may also try this trick on other people: important political figures, mayors, prosecutors, etc. They don't invest in the fund, but it's nice to have them in your pocket. Others (academics, artists, etc.) can just be bought with money as a PR smokescreen.

(12/13) And, of course, the scam can be kept going as long as people are willing to pay, which is forever. If you're ever caught, just lean on some of your other friends in government to lean on the prosecutor to get you a sweetheart deal. There's almost zero risk.

(13/13) And the last piece of the puzzle is the evidence. You'd want it somewhere remote, but accessible: a place the US can't touch but you have an excuse to visit all the time to update. Remember that offshore fund?

I bet there's a *very* interesting safe deposit box there.

Two small points of clarification:
1. This scheme works just as well if the billionaires are in on it from the getgo as a way to buy sex; I assumed that was obvious but I guess not.
2. There's no need to invoke the Mafia/Russia/Mossad/CIA/etc, that's just needlessly overfitting.

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1148303671857491968.html
https://digest.bps.org.uk/2017/04/05/why-more-highly-educated-people-are-less-into-conspiracy-theories/
His argument really isn't a conspiracy theory. It's actually closer to Occam's Razor. And it doesn't even have to involve Mossad or other foreign intelligence agencies. It could be that he's just a dude that found an easy way to swindle other powerful people out of hundreds of millions of dollars, and do it in plain sight (basically a legally, aside from the pedophilia backdrop).


1. It's not HIS argument. It's one he stole from somewhere else.

2. He argues it's MOSSAD pretty clearly. He wants to believe this as it allows him to clear Trump and make him a victim.

3. It all falls apart if you read actual accounts by the victims themselves -and there are many and they are pretty strong.

Epstein was having underage women come to give him massages and more at his house, with no one else around. HE was the one doing it. If he was blackmailing anyone, why has none of it surfaced? This is the time to play those cards.

Occam's razor says this is a dude who used his position of power to do ****ty things to women. No intricate schemes, just a dude with power taking advantage of young women.
This is actually quite a pathetic attempt at a rebuttal....

I've said from day one that he is a Mossad agent...The Twitter thread I stole was adding color to how someone with his past and experience could pose as a billionaire hedge fund manager. Trump doesn't need to be cleared....he wasn't involved

The first point in the Twitter thread I stole is how Epstein is the perfect front man for this operation specifically because he is an unrepentant child molestor so he could indulge in his lifestyle all while running his honeypot operation.

Blackmail works specifically because it doesn't surface. That's how it works you idiot.

I feel like I just wasted a minute of my life trying to explain something to a simple minded child


Less Qanon and 4Chan. More reality.

I get that you like to think you're "in the know." That's your security blanket.

But really you're just a white supremacist nerd who is a little bit of bravery away from rushing a pizza place with a gun only to find out there isn't actually a pedophile drug ring being run out of the basement.

Please post less.
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Is his longtime companion Mossad, too?

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/26/podcasts/the-daily/ghislaine-maxwell-epstein.html?smid=fb-nytimes&smtyp=cur
ValhallaBear
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BrooksBearLives said:

Is his longtime companion Mossad, too?

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/26/podcasts/the-daily/ghislaine-maxwell-epstein.html?smid=fb-nytimes&smtyp=cur
Yes. It is well documented that her father, Robert Maxwell, was an Israeli spy

Please post as much as you like...it makes everyone else look smart
trey3216
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BrooksBearLives said:

ValhallaBear said:

BrooksBearLives said:

trey3216 said:

BrooksBearLives said:

ValhallaBear said:

Textbook Mossad...

So, apologies in advance, but I want to do a quick little THREAD to explain my theory of what the Epstein story really is. I promise this isn't some crazy Pizzagate conspiracy about space lizards, just a neat little explanation that IMO perfectly fits the known facts (0/13):

(1/13) Let's take as our starting points two givens.
(A.) You are a committed, unrepentant pedophile
(B.) Because of your old job in private banking, you are very connected to lots of very, very wealthy people
We'll also assume a goal:
(Z.) You want to become very rich

(2/13) The obvious route is, well, obvious: you could just be a pimp, offering underage prostitute services to very rich people. This has two problems: you're very disposable (see: DC madam), and it's also not super lucrative. You can't charge millions of dollars up front.

(3/13) The second level though follows instantly: You don't need to charge up front, just get them to have underage sex, and then blackmail them afterwards for hush money. Better ROI, but you're still a liability, and producing and receiving big bribe money raises big questions.

(4/13) So, what to do? Well, the second idea has some merits. First, you need to recruit people in. Have lots of massive parties at your spacious home (check), invite top academics, artists, politicians to encourage people to come (check), and supply lots of young women (check)

(5/13) You don't even have to do anything, and most people invited might even be totally unaware of the real purpose of the parties! But, sooner or later, some billionaire will get handsy, she'll escort him to a room with a hidden camera, things happen. Morning after, you strike.

(6/13) You inform him she was really 15, but you offer him a nice, neat way to buy your silence: a large allocation to your hedge fund, which charges 2/20 (check). To ensure nobody else asks questions, you also take the extraordinary step of demanding power of attorney (check)

(7/13) The fund is offshore in a tax haven (check) and nobody will see the client list (check). Of course, you don't really know anything about investing, instead making up some nonsense about currency trading (check), and nobody on Wall Street has ever traded with you (check)

(8/13) The fund itself doesn't need investment personnel (check), only some back office people to process the wires (check). You don't want to money from non-pedophiles, or they'll notice you've just put it in a S&P 500 fund, so you reject all incoming inquiries (check)

(9/13) A $20 million wire from Billionaire X to you with no obvious reason will raise many questions, and the IRS will certainly want to know what you did to warrant it. A $5 million quarterly fee for managing $1 billion in assets? Nobody bats an eye.

(10/13) Because of this structure, you're extraordinarily secretive about client lists (check) because they aren't clients, they're pedophiles paying you bribes, and they also are very secretive, which is why no letters or return streams ever leak (check)

(11/13) Occasionally you may also try this trick on other people: important political figures, mayors, prosecutors, etc. They don't invest in the fund, but it's nice to have them in your pocket. Others (academics, artists, etc.) can just be bought with money as a PR smokescreen.

(12/13) And, of course, the scam can be kept going as long as people are willing to pay, which is forever. If you're ever caught, just lean on some of your other friends in government to lean on the prosecutor to get you a sweetheart deal. There's almost zero risk.

(13/13) And the last piece of the puzzle is the evidence. You'd want it somewhere remote, but accessible: a place the US can't touch but you have an excuse to visit all the time to update. Remember that offshore fund?

I bet there's a *very* interesting safe deposit box there.

Two small points of clarification:
1. This scheme works just as well if the billionaires are in on it from the getgo as a way to buy sex; I assumed that was obvious but I guess not.
2. There's no need to invoke the Mafia/Russia/Mossad/CIA/etc, that's just needlessly overfitting.

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1148303671857491968.html
https://digest.bps.org.uk/2017/04/05/why-more-highly-educated-people-are-less-into-conspiracy-theories/
His argument really isn't a conspiracy theory. It's actually closer to Occam's Razor. And it doesn't even have to involve Mossad or other foreign intelligence agencies. It could be that he's just a dude that found an easy way to swindle other powerful people out of hundreds of millions of dollars, and do it in plain sight (basically a legally, aside from the pedophilia backdrop).


1. It's not HIS argument. It's one he stole from somewhere else.

2. He argues it's MOSSAD pretty clearly. He wants to believe this as it allows him to clear Trump and make him a victim.

3. It all falls apart if you read actual accounts by the victims themselves -and there are many and they are pretty strong.

Epstein was having underage women come to give him massages and more at his house, with no one else around. HE was the one doing it. If he was blackmailing anyone, why has none of it surfaced? This is the time to play those cards.

Occam's razor says this is a dude who used his position of power to do ****ty things to women. No intricate schemes, just a dude with power taking advantage of young women.
This is actually quite a pathetic attempt at a rebuttal....

I've said from day one that he is a Mossad agent...The Twitter thread I stole was adding color to how someone with his past and experience could pose as a billionaire hedge fund manager. Trump doesn't need to be cleared....he wasn't involved

The first point in the Twitter thread I stole is how Epstein is the perfect front man for this operation specifically because he is an unrepentant child molestor so he could indulge in his lifestyle all while running his honeypot operation.

Blackmail works specifically because it doesn't surface. That's how it works you idiot.

I feel like I just wasted a minute of my life trying to explain something to a simple minded child


Less Qanon and 4Chan. More reality.

I get that you like to think you're "in the know." That's your security blanket.

But really you're just a white supremacist nerd who is a little bit of bravery away from rushing a pizza place with a gun only to find out there isn't actually a pedophile drug ring being run out of the basement.

Please post less.


Dude, if you're going to throw out accusations like that at people, you probably need to check your keyboard into the timeout station.
Mr. Treehorn treats objects like women, man.
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Ms. Maxwell is just a swinger and a naughty ***** who used to train the young women for her sex partner and lover.
Epstein is not a spy. He's rich and buys off people.
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xiledinok said:

Ms. Maxwell is just a swinger and a naughty ***** who used to train the young women for her sex partner and lover.
Epstein is not a spy. He's rich and buys off people.

You're probably right; he's not a spy....but he's likely part of a ring getting dirt for spies.
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Another development....from ZeroHedge

Lead US Prosecutor In Epstein's 2008 Case Unexpectedly Resigns

by Tyler Durden
Thu, 08/08/2019 - 20:25

Something big is about to hit in the Jeffrey Epstein drama, which in recent days has quietly slipped to the last page in the local media.

Moments ago, the Miami Herald whose reporting in 2018 reincarnated the Epstein pedogate scandal, reported that Marie Villafaa, the lead federal prosecutor who helped negotiate the controversial plea deal for accused sex trafficker Jeffrey Epstein, has submitted her resignation to the Justice Department.

Villafaa's lawyer, Jonathan Biran, confirmed her resignation to the Miami Herald, saying that she has long planned to transition to a legal career in healthcare, and now plans to join the federal Department of Health and Human Services, because allegedly, she handled a number of healthcare fraud cases in South Florida in recent years.

Her shocking departure comes amid a sprawling federal probe into the role she and other federal prosecutors, including her former boss, Alexander Acosta, had in sidelining the 53-page indictment against the wealthy New York schmoozer and convicted pedophile in favor of a state plea to minor prostitution charges in 2008. Epstein, 66, was accused of molesting dozens of underage girls, most of them 14 to 16 years old, at his Palm Beach mansion more than a decade ago. He is now facing federal sex trafficking charges involving minors brought against him last month by prosecutors in the Southern District of New York.

The DOJ's Office of Professional Responsibility is probing whether Acosta, who resigned his cabinet post as Trump's secretary of labor last month and other U.S. prosecutors involved in the 2007-2008 case committed misconduct in negotiating the secret pact with Epstein. A federal judge in February ruled that the prior deal was illegally negotiated because Epstein and federal prosecutors concealed it from his victims in violation of the Crime Victims' Rights Act.

Villafaa, 51, has worked in the Southern District of Florida, mostly based in West Palm Beach, for the past 18 years. She is the last member of the federal prosecution team that handled Epstein's case in 2008 still employed by the Department of Justice. The other members of the team, including Acosta, left in the years after Epstein's case was closed.

Palm Beach Sheriff Ric Bradshaw's role in the case is also under scrutiny the Herald reports, since under his watch he permitted Epstein liberal work release privileges that allowed the multimillionaire to be chauffeured by his valet from the jail to his office in West Palm Beach six days a week, 12 hours a day. Even when Epstein was in his cell at night, sheriff's deputies reportedly allowed him to keep his door open.

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While there is no specific reason to doubt the motive behind her resignation, a much more likely reason behind Villafana's abrupt departure is that several people involved in the Epstein case have been questioned by the Justice Department in recent weeks as part of its ongoing OPR investigation, and something unexpected "popped up."

Villafaa has never spoken publicly about the case. Sources close to her have said that she disagreed with Acosta's decision granting Epstein and others involved in his activities immunity from federal charges.

Those close to Villafaa said that in the end, she was a loyal career prosecutor who toed the line of her boss while focusing her efforts on a provision in Epstein's agreement that forced him to pay restitution to his victims. At the time of the deal, the FBI had identified 34 underage victims, most of them middle and high school girls who came from underprivileged backgrounds.

Recently released documents revealed that Villafaa strenuously objected to Epstein's work release, and wrote a letter to the Palm Beach Sheriff's Office in December 2008 pointing out that the crimes he committed were not accurately reflected in his work release paperwork and that those records contained "omissions" that should have disqualified him for the program.

Biran said Villafaa's resignation had nothing to do with the Epstein matter, and that she has recently completed a two-year training program on healthcare compliance. Most of her career has been spent advocating for the rights of victims, and she has received numerous awards for her work, he added.

"Ms. Villafaa is confident that, when DOJ's internal investigation has been concluded, the department will find that she acted properly in all respects as the lead prosecutor in the federal investigation of Jeffrey Epstein,'' Biran said.

Her departure is unlikely to derail OPR's probe according to Michael R. Bromwich, a former federal prosecutor in the Southern District of New York. "There is no reason that they couldn't continue the investigation, especially in a case like this where there is broad public interest in knowing what happened,'' said Bromwich, a former inspector general for the Justice Department. He added that it's important for the department to make its findings public given that so much secrecy has surrounded the Epstein case.

Meanwhile, Epstein was denied bail and remains jailed in Manhattan pending his trial, tentatively set for next June. Many have speculated that it is unlikely that he will survive that long.
HuMcK
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Some unsealed documents today.
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What do you think about this?

Nothing gonna happen?
HuMcK
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Florda_mike said:

What do you think about this?

Nothing gonna happen?

I think it's way above my pay-grade. So many eyeballs on this though, it would be tough for it to just fade away.
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How old was Guiffre?
YoakDaddy
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HuMcK said:

Florda_mike said:

What do you think about this?

Nothing gonna happen?

I think it's way above my pay-grade. So many eyeballs on this though, it would be tough for it to just fade away.

True. There'll be consequences for some. IMO this is so deep and impacts so many of the ultra-wealthy/celebrities/politicians that we'll likely never know the full extent. It's good to have some sunshine tho.
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I don't even think there'll be "consequences" for anyone because of who you say the perpetrators are
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HuMcK said:

Some unsealed documents today.


She was a employee at Mar a Largo
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Dead.
Florda_mike
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There's 2 systems of justice

One for them where there's no consequences and then one for us where there's probable prison time for what they've done

This needs changed before they steal our country from us

They're scoundrels
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Wow effing wow!!!!!!

Here's come the tin foil hat boys after we mention this being just another in a long string of Arkancides

Unbelievable
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I was watching ABC News last night with my wife, and literally heard them confirm Epstein was on suicide watch ... now he wasn't?

I've been near week-old fish that did not stink this bad.
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"Arkancides"? Remind me again, who runs DoJ these days? You might be surprised to learn it's not the Clintons.
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HuMcK said:

"Arkancides"? Remind me again, who runs DoJ these days? You might be surprised to learn it's not the Clintons.
DOJ does not run the New York jails.

Personally, I don't see a Clinton connection here, but the way you're hinting is a ridiculous reach, Huck.
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Oldbear83 said:

HuMcK said:

"Arkancides"? Remind me again, who runs DoJ these days? You might be surprised to learn it's not the Clintons.
DOJ does not run the New York jails.

Personally, I don't see a Clinton connection here, but the way you're hinting is a ridiculous reach, Huck.

I'm not saying Barr caused the guy to off himself, but Epstein was in Federal custody and Barr did specifically unrecuse himself from the case, so it is reasonably his fckup. Someone is going to have to answer for why he wasn't on 24/7 surveillance.
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HuMcK said:

Oldbear83 said:

HuMcK said:

"Arkancides"? Remind me again, who runs DoJ these days? You might be surprised to learn it's not the Clintons.
DOJ does not run the New York jails.

Personally, I don't see a Clinton connection here, but the way you're hinting is a ridiculous reach, Huck.

I'm not saying Barr caused the guy to off himself, but Epstein was in Federal custody and Barr did specifically unrecuse himself from the case, so it is reasonably his fckup. Someone is going to have to answer for why he wasn't on 24/7 surveillance.
I agree someone will get into trouble, but only a certified loon would see this as happening "from the top".
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Oldbear83 said:

HuMcK said:

"Arkancides"? Remind me again, who runs DoJ these days? You might be surprised to learn it's not the Clintons.
DOJ does not run the New York jails.

Personally, I don't see a Clinton connection here, but the way you're hinting is a ridiculous reach, Huck.

MCC is operated by the
Federal Bureau of Prisons, a division of the United States Department of Justice
El Chapo and members Al Qaeda have been locked up there
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robby44 said:

Oldbear83 said:

HuMcK said:

"Arkancides"? Remind me again, who runs DoJ these days? You might be surprised to learn it's not the Clintons.
DOJ does not run the New York jails.

Personally, I don't see a Clinton connection here, but the way you're hinting is a ridiculous reach, Huck.

MCC is operated by the
Federal Bureau of Prisons, a division of the United States Department of Justice
El Chapo and members Al Qaeda have been locked up there
How many levels of bureaucracy between the AG and the prisoners?
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I'm pretty sure the AG can make things happen (like protecting a high profile prisoner) with a phone call
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robby44 said:

I'm pretty sure the AG can make things happen (like protecting a high profile prisoner) with a phone call

I'm pretty sure the idea that the AG had anything to do with this is bat**** crazy.
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Oldbear83 said:

robby44 said:

I'm pretty sure the AG can make things happen (like protecting a high profile prisoner) with a phone call

I'm pretty sure the idea that the AG had anything to do with this is bat**** crazy.

Not saying he anything to do with the suicide but where does the buck stop in bureau of prisons and DOJ. Why was Epstein not on suicide watch?
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robby44 said:

Oldbear83 said:

robby44 said:

I'm pretty sure the AG can make things happen (like protecting a high profile prisoner) with a phone call

I'm pretty sure the idea that the AG had anything to do with this is bat**** crazy.

Not saying he anything to do with the suicide but where does the buck stop in bureau of prisons and DOJ. Why was Epstein not on suicide watch?
That's what bothers me. Just last night the news said he was on suicide watch. There's going to be a document trail, someone is going to get canned for it.

Part of the problem is that jail personnel get crappy pay, so if someone got enough money, they would not care about getting fired. The question now is who runs the investigation?
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Oldbear83 said:

I was watching ABC News last night with my wife, and literally heard them confirm Epstein was on suicide watch ... now he wasn't?

I've been near week-old fish that did not stink this bad.



Are you saying they watched him commit suicide?
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YoakDaddy said:




Bump LOL!!
 
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