Beto's lost his damn mind

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D. C. Bear
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Doc Holliday said:

Booray said:

Doc Holliday said:

Booray said:

Donald Ttump created an alternate universe where America was under siege and economically crippled. Many of the Democratic candidates seem invested in creating an alternate universe where society's benefits flow only to old white males. I don't recognize the country that either one describes.

That said, most of this thread misquotes Beto. He said that America's founding was based on white supremacy and that our institutions continue to reflect that fact. For the most part that s true, but I do think he did scoundrel the tremendous progress made in the last 70 yeas.
The term 'white supremacy' implies being actively against anyone who isn't white. Making a blanket statement that America's institutions today still operate by that standard is appalling and ridiculous and it's exactly what Robert Francis O'Rourke said.

It's also why he's a terrible candiate.

Do you not understand that saying **** like you just said hurts Democrat and makes the left look insane? Please keep doing it!



He said no such thing. He said our institutions reflect the legacy of white supremacy. That is different than saying our own institutions practice white supremacy.
Please explain how NASA reflects a legacy of white supremacy.
Was watching a documentary on space program. I think I saw one black dude in mission control.
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D. C. Bear said:

Doc Holliday said:

Booray said:

Doc Holliday said:

Booray said:

Donald Ttump created an alternate universe where America was under siege and economically crippled. Many of the Democratic candidates seem invested in creating an alternate universe where society's benefits flow only to old white males. I don't recognize the country that either one describes.

That said, most of this thread misquotes Beto. He said that America's founding was based on white supremacy and that our institutions continue to reflect that fact. For the most part that s true, but I do think he did scoundrel the tremendous progress made in the last 70 yeas.
The term 'white supremacy' implies being actively against anyone who isn't white. Making a blanket statement that America's institutions today still operate by that standard is appalling and ridiculous and it's exactly what Robert Francis O'Rourke said.

It's also why he's a terrible candiate.

Do you not understand that saying **** like you just said hurts Democrat and makes the left look insane? Please keep doing it!



He said no such thing. He said our institutions reflect the legacy of white supremacy. That is different than saying our own institutions practice white supremacy.
Please explain how NASA reflects a legacy of white supremacy.
Was watching a documentary on Space program. I think I saw one black dude in mission control.
And today there are hundreds.

So what is the point O'Rourke and Booray are trying to make?

Where is the CURRENT problem?
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Doc Holliday said:

D. C. Bear said:

Doc Holliday said:

Booray said:

Doc Holliday said:

Booray said:

Donald Ttump created an alternate universe where America was under siege and economically crippled. Many of the Democratic candidates seem invested in creating an alternate universe where society's benefits flow only to old white males. I don't recognize the country that either one describes.

That said, most of this thread misquotes Beto. He said that America's founding was based on white supremacy and that our institutions continue to reflect that fact. For the most part that s true, but I do think he did scoundrel the tremendous progress made in the last 70 yeas.
The term 'white supremacy' implies being actively against anyone who isn't white. Making a blanket statement that America's institutions today still operate by that standard is appalling and ridiculous and it's exactly what Robert Francis O'Rourke said.

It's also why he's a terrible candiate.

Do you not understand that saying **** like you just said hurts Democrat and makes the left look insane? Please keep doing it!



He said no such thing. He said our institutions reflect the legacy of white supremacy. That is different than saying our own institutions practice white supremacy.
Please explain how NASA reflects a legacy of white supremacy.
Was watching a documentary on Space program. I think I saw one black dude in mission control.
And today there are hundreds.

So what is the point O'Rourke and Booray are trying to make?

Where is the CURRENT problem?


There will always be a current problem.....for folks with problems .
Waco1947
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Doc Holliday said:

Booray said:

Donald Ttump created an alternate universe where America was under siege and economically crippled. Many of the Democratic candidates seem invested in creating an alternate universe where society's benefits flow only to old white males. I don't recognize the country that either one describes.

That said, most of this thread misquotes Beto. He said that America's founding was based on white supremacy and that our institutions continue to reflect that fact. For the most part that s true, but I do think he did scoundrel the tremendous progress made in the last 70 yeas.
The term 'white supremacy' implies being actively against anyone who isn't white.
""""""""""Your definition is right. The implication is correct, so do you have a point???""""""

Making a blanket statement that America's institutions today still operate by that standard is appalling and ridiculous and it's exactly what Robert Francis O'Rourke said.
"Robert Francis did not say we still operate by that standard." He is saying out institutions still 'reflect' that white supremacy, that's true isn't it?""""

It's also why he's a terrible candidate.
""""""""Dors not follow. What makes him a terrible candidate- he speaks a truth you don't want to hear?"""""

Do you not understand that saying **** like you just said hurts Democrat and makes the left look insane? Please keep doing it!
So the Left nor Democrats are at issue here. White supremacy and its continuing hold over some people and institutions is the issue. It's not a D or R issue.
Waco1947 ,la
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Sam Lowry said:

Booray said:

Donald Ttump created an alternate universe where America was under siege and economically crippled. Many of the Democratic candidates seem invested in creating an alternate universe where society's benefits flow only to old white males. I don't recognize the country that either one describes.

That said, most of this thread misquotes Beto. He said that America's founding was based on white supremacy and that our institutions continue to reflect that fact. For the most part that s true, but I do think he discounts the tremendous progress made in the last 70 yeas.
To say America was white supremacist at its founding is different from saying it was founded on white supremacy. The ugly battles between our most barbaric political factions - e.g. Proud Boys and Antifa - are being fought by people who hold strongly to the latter belief. It's unfortunate that Beto wants to fuel that fire. What's worse is that he hasn't lost his mind. He knows exactly what he's doing and what appeals to his base.


I agree with the fueling the fire point. And it's true that our founding was not done to create shaven for white people; it was about our relationship with England not about race relations.

But that didn't matter much to you if you were a slave. We are 243 years old. I just wish sme candidate could focus n the whole 243 yeas rather than the first 170 or last 70.

Denying the hardship caused minorities during the first part or arguing those effects have been erased is just wishful thinking.

Denying that we aren't making substantial progress towards a color blnd/ gender blind society is equally flawed.
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Waco1947 said:

Doc Holliday said:

Booray said:

Donald Ttump created an alternate universe where America was under siege and economically crippled. Many of the Democratic candidates seem invested in creating an alternate universe where society's benefits flow only to old white males. I don't recognize the country that either one describes.

That said, most of this thread misquotes Beto. He said that America's founding was based on white supremacy and that our institutions continue to reflect that fact. For the most part that s true, but I do think he did scoundrel the tremendous progress made in the last 70 yeas.
The term 'white supremacy' implies being actively against anyone who isn't white.
""""""""""Your definition is right. The implication is correct, so do you have a point???""""""

Making a blanket statement that America's institutions today still operate by that standard is appalling and ridiculous and it's exactly what Robert Francis O'Rourke said.
"Robert Francis did not say we still operate by that standard." He is saying out institutions still 'reflect' that white supremacy, that's true isn't it?""""

It's also why he's a terrible candidate.
""""""""Dors not follow. What makes him a terrible candidate- he speaks a truth you don't want to hear?"""""

Do you not understand that saying **** like you just said hurts Democrat and makes the left look insane? Please keep doing it!
So the Left nor Democrats are at issue here. White supremacy and its continuing hold over some people and institutions is the issue. It's not a D or R issue.
Any current examples of white supremacy and its continuing hold over some people and institutions?
Doc Holliday
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Booray said:

Sam Lowry said:

Booray said:

Donald Ttump created an alternate universe where America was under siege and economically crippled. Many of the Democratic candidates seem invested in creating an alternate universe where society's benefits flow only to old white males. I don't recognize the country that either one describes.

That said, most of this thread misquotes Beto. He said that America's founding was based on white supremacy and that our institutions continue to reflect that fact. For the most part that s true, but I do think he discounts the tremendous progress made in the last 70 yeas.
To say America was white supremacist at its founding is different from saying it was founded on white supremacy. The ugly battles between our most barbaric political factions - e.g. Proud Boys and Antifa - are being fought by people who hold strongly to the latter belief. It's unfortunate that Beto wants to fuel that fire. What's worse is that he hasn't lost his mind. He knows exactly what he's doing and what appeals to his base.


I agree with the fueling the fire point. And it's true that our founding was not done to create shaven for white people; it was about our relationship with England not about race relations.

But that didn't matter much to you if you were a slave. We are 243 years old. I just wish sme candidate could focus n the whole 243 yeas rather than the first 170 or last 70.

Denying the hardship caused minorities during the first part or arguing those effects have been erased is just wishful thinking.

Denying that we aren't making substantial progress towards a color blnd/ gender blind society is equally flawed.
How have we not made substantial progress?

Who is denying hardship?
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Booray said:

Sam Lowry said:

Booray said:

Donald Ttump created an alternate universe where America was under siege and economically crippled. Many of the Democratic candidates seem invested in creating an alternate universe where society's benefits flow only to old white males. I don't recognize the country that either one describes.

That said, most of this thread misquotes Beto. He said that America's founding was based on white supremacy and that our institutions continue to reflect that fact. For the most part that s true, but I do think he discounts the tremendous progress made in the last 70 yeas.
To say America was white supremacist at its founding is different from saying it was founded on white supremacy. The ugly battles between our most barbaric political factions - e.g. Proud Boys and Antifa - are being fought by people who hold strongly to the latter belief. It's unfortunate that Beto wants to fuel that fire. What's worse is that he hasn't lost his mind. He knows exactly what he's doing and what appeals to his base.


I agree with the fueling the fire point. And it's true that our founding was not done to create shaven for white people; it was about our relationship with England not about race relations.

But that didn't matter much to you if you were a slave. We are 243 years old. I just wish sme candidate could focus n the whole 243 yeas rather than the first 170 or last 70.

Denying the hardship caused minorities during the first part or arguing those effects have been erased is just wishful thinking.

Denying that we aren't making substantial progress towards a color blnd/ gender blind society is equally flawed.
I wish a candidate would come out and describe how awful The New Deal, Great Society, and others have been for minorities and poor.
Mr. Treehorn treats objects like women, man.
Waco1947
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Doc Holliday said:

Waco1947 said:

Doc Holliday said:

Booray said:

Donald Ttump created an alternate universe where America was under siege and economically crippled. Many of the Democratic candidates seem invested in creating an alternate universe where society's benefits flow only to old white males. I don't recognize the country that either one describes.

That said, most of this thread misquotes Beto. He said that America's founding was based on white supremacy and that our institutions continue to reflect that fact. For the most part that s true, but I do think he did scoundrel the tremendous progress made in the last 70 yeas.
The term 'white supremacy' implies being actively against anyone who isn't white.
""""""""""Your definition is right. The implication is correct, so do you have a point???""""""

Making a blanket statement that America's institutions today still operate by that standard is appalling and ridiculous and it's exactly what Robert Francis O'Rourke said.
"Robert Francis did not say we still operate by that standard." He is saying out institutions still 'reflect' that white supremacy, that's true isn't it?""""

It's also why he's a terrible candidate.
""""""""Dors not follow. What makes him a terrible candidate- he speaks a truth you don't want to hear?"""""

Do you not understand that saying **** like you just said hurts Democrat and makes the left look insane? Please keep doing it!
So the Left nor Democrats are at issue here. White supremacy and its continuing hold over some people and institutions is the issue. It's not a D or R issue.
Any current examples of white supremacy and its continuing hold over some people and institutions?
The sacred institution of voting - voter suppression is white supremacy driven.
Housing - Blacks move in. Whites move out.
Education/ Minorities still have crappy schools.
Got another one?
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Doc Holliday
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Waco1947 said:

Doc Holliday said:

Waco1947 said:

Doc Holliday said:

Booray said:

Donald Ttump created an alternate universe where America was under siege and economically crippled. Many of the Democratic candidates seem invested in creating an alternate universe where society's benefits flow only to old white males. I don't recognize the country that either one describes.

That said, most of this thread misquotes Beto. He said that America's founding was based on white supremacy and that our institutions continue to reflect that fact. For the most part that s true, but I do think he did scoundrel the tremendous progress made in the last 70 yeas.
The term 'white supremacy' implies being actively against anyone who isn't white.
""""""""""Your definition is right. The implication is correct, so do you have a point???""""""

Making a blanket statement that America's institutions today still operate by that standard is appalling and ridiculous and it's exactly what Robert Francis O'Rourke said.
"Robert Francis did not say we still operate by that standard." He is saying out institutions still 'reflect' that white supremacy, that's true isn't it?""""

It's also why he's a terrible candidate.
""""""""Dors not follow. What makes him a terrible candidate- he speaks a truth you don't want to hear?"""""

Do you not understand that saying **** like you just said hurts Democrat and makes the left look insane? Please keep doing it!
So the Left nor Democrats are at issue here. White supremacy and its continuing hold over some people and institutions is the issue. It's not a D or R issue.
Any current examples of white supremacy and its continuing hold over some people and institutions?
The sacred institution of voting - voter suppression is white supremacy driven.
Housing - Blacks move in. Whites move out.
Education/ Minorities still have crappy schools.
Got another one?

Schools are crappy for everyone.
Housing is bad for the poor.
Voting is screwed up.

It effects EVERYONE of every race.

You are trying to make it a racial issue and by doing so you are creating division, hatred, guilt etc.
Waco1947
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Doc Holliday said:

Waco1947 said:

Doc Holliday said:

Waco1947 said:

Doc Holliday said:

Booray said:

Donald Ttump created an alternate universe where America was under siege and economically crippled. Many of the Democratic candidates seem invested in creating an alternate universe where society's benefits flow only to old white males. I don't recognize the country that either one describes.

That said, most of this thread misquotes Beto. He said that America's founding was based on white supremacy and that our institutions continue to reflect that fact. For the most part that s true, but I do think he did scoundrel the tremendous progress made in the last 70 yeas.
The term 'white supremacy' implies being actively against anyone who isn't white.
""""""""""Your definition is right. The implication is correct, so do you have a point???""""""

Making a blanket statement that America's institutions today still operate by that standard is appalling and ridiculous and it's exactly what Robert Francis O'Rourke said.
"Robert Francis did not say we still operate by that standard." He is saying out institutions still 'reflect' that white supremacy, that's true isn't it?""""

It's also why he's a terrible candidate.
""""""""Dors not follow. What makes him a terrible candidate- he speaks a truth you don't want to hear?"""""

Do you not understand that saying **** like you just said hurts Democrat and makes the left look insane? Please keep doing it!
So the Left nor Democrats are at issue here. White supremacy and its continuing hold over some people and institutions is the issue. It's not a D or R issue.
Any current examples of white supremacy and its continuing hold over some people and institutions?
The sacred institution of voting - voter suppression is white supremacy driven.
Housing - Blacks move in. Whites move out.
Education/ Minorities still have crappy schools.
Got another one?

Schools are crappy for everyone.
Housing is bad for the poor.
Voting is screwed up.

It effects EVERYONE of every race.

You are trying to make it a racial issue and by doing so you are creating division, hatred, guilt etc.

That effects everyone is simply an argument that white supremacy is horrible for everyone. My point stand white supremacy still effects us.
Waco1947 ,la
Doc Holliday
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Waco1947 said:

Doc Holliday said:

Waco1947 said:

Doc Holliday said:

Waco1947 said:

Doc Holliday said:

Booray said:

Donald Ttump created an alternate universe where America was under siege and economically crippled. Many of the Democratic candidates seem invested in creating an alternate universe where society's benefits flow only to old white males. I don't recognize the country that either one describes.

That said, most of this thread misquotes Beto. He said that America's founding was based on white supremacy and that our institutions continue to reflect that fact. For the most part that s true, but I do think he did scoundrel the tremendous progress made in the last 70 yeas.
The term 'white supremacy' implies being actively against anyone who isn't white.
""""""""""Your definition is right. The implication is correct, so do you have a point???""""""

Making a blanket statement that America's institutions today still operate by that standard is appalling and ridiculous and it's exactly what Robert Francis O'Rourke said.
"Robert Francis did not say we still operate by that standard." He is saying out institutions still 'reflect' that white supremacy, that's true isn't it?""""

It's also why he's a terrible candidate.
""""""""Dors not follow. What makes him a terrible candidate- he speaks a truth you don't want to hear?"""""

Do you not understand that saying **** like you just said hurts Democrat and makes the left look insane? Please keep doing it!
So the Left nor Democrats are at issue here. White supremacy and its continuing hold over some people and institutions is the issue. It's not a D or R issue.
Any current examples of white supremacy and its continuing hold over some people and institutions?
The sacred institution of voting - voter suppression is white supremacy driven.
Housing - Blacks move in. Whites move out.
Education/ Minorities still have crappy schools.
Got another one?

Schools are crappy for everyone.
Housing is bad for the poor.
Voting is screwed up.

It effects EVERYONE of every race.

You are trying to make it a racial issue and by doing so you are creating division, hatred, guilt etc.

That effects everyone is simply an argument that white supremacy is horrible for everyone. My point stand white supremacy still effects us.
And what is your solution for all this white supremacy?
Bruce Leroy
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Waco1947 said:

Doc Holliday said:

Waco1947 said:

Doc Holliday said:

Waco1947 said:

Doc Holliday said:

Booray said:

Donald Ttump created an alternate universe where America was under siege and economically crippled. Many of the Democratic candidates seem invested in creating an alternate universe where society's benefits flow only to old white males. I don't recognize the country that either one describes.

That said, most of this thread misquotes Beto. He said that America's founding was based on white supremacy and that our institutions continue to reflect that fact. For the most part that s true, but I do think he did scoundrel the tremendous progress made in the last 70 yeas.
The term 'white supremacy' implies being actively against anyone who isn't white.
""""""""""Your definition is right. The implication is correct, so do you have a point???""""""

Making a blanket statement that America's institutions today still operate by that standard is appalling and ridiculous and it's exactly what Robert Francis O'Rourke said.
"Robert Francis did not say we still operate by that standard." He is saying out institutions still 'reflect' that white supremacy, that's true isn't it?""""

It's also why he's a terrible candidate.
""""""""Dors not follow. What makes him a terrible candidate- he speaks a truth you don't want to hear?"""""

Do you not understand that saying **** like you just said hurts Democrat and makes the left look insane? Please keep doing it!
So the Left nor Democrats are at issue here. White supremacy and its continuing hold over some people and institutions is the issue. It's not a D or R issue.
Any current examples of white supremacy and its continuing hold over some people and institutions?
The sacred institution of voting - voter suppression is white supremacy driven.
Housing - Blacks move in. Whites move out.
Education/ Minorities still have crappy schools.
Got another one?

Schools are crappy for everyone.
Housing is bad for the poor.
Voting is screwed up.

It effects EVERYONE of every race.

You are trying to make it a racial issue and by doing so you are creating division, hatred, guilt etc.

That effects everyone is simply an argument that white supremacy is horrible for everyone. My point stand white supremacy still effects us.
No. Your premise was "based on white supremacy."
Waco1947
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Doc Holliday said:

Waco1947 said:

Doc Holliday said:

Waco1947 said:

Doc Holliday said:

Waco1947 said:

Doc Holliday said:

Booray said:

Donald Ttump created an alternate universe where America was under siege and economically crippled. Many of the Democratic candidates seem invested in creating an alternate universe where society's benefits flow only to old white males. I don't recognize the country that either one describes.

That said, most of this thread misquotes Beto. He said that America's founding was based on white supremacy and that our institutions continue to reflect that fact. For the most part that s true, but I do think he did scoundrel the tremendous progress made in the last 70 yeas.
The term 'white supremacy' implies being actively against anyone who isn't white.
""""""""""Your definition is right. The implication is correct, so do you have a point???""""""

Making a blanket statement that America's institutions today still operate by that standard is appalling and ridiculous and it's exactly what Robert Francis O'Rourke said.
"Robert Francis did not say we still operate by that standard." He is saying out institutions still 'reflect' that white supremacy, that's true isn't it?""""

It's also why he's a terrible candidate.
""""""""Dors not follow. What makes him a terrible candidate- he speaks a truth you don't want to hear?"""""

Do you not understand that saying **** like you just said hurts Democrat and makes the left look insane? Please keep doing it!
So the Left nor Democrats are at issue here. White supremacy and its continuing hold over some people and institutions is the issue. It's not a D or R issue.
Any current examples of white supremacy and its continuing hold over some people and institutions?
The sacred institution of voting - voter suppression is white supremacy driven.
Housing - Blacks move in. Whites move out.
Education/ Minorities still have crappy schools.
Got another one?

Schools are crappy for everyone.
Housing is bad for the poor.
Voting is screwed up.

It effects EVERYONE of every race.

You are trying to make it a racial issue and by doing so you are creating division, hatred, guilt etc.

That effects everyone is simply an argument that white supremacy is horrible for everyone. My point stand white supremacy still effects us.
And what is your solution for all this white supremacy?
Acknowledge it and beware of it on political issues.
For instance if white supremacy really effects voting to this day then policy I would expand voting registration, make voting easier, have a National Federal Holiday for voting, longer early voting, more polling places, etc. voting and the ability to vote democratic republic is the exercise of true political power.
White supremacy will attempt to limit voting especially for minorities. That's one example.
Waco1947 ,la
Golem
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Bruce Leroy said:

Waco1947 said:

Doc Holliday said:

Waco1947 said:

Doc Holliday said:

Waco1947 said:

Doc Holliday said:

Booray said:

Donald Ttump created an alternate universe where America was under siege and economically crippled. Many of the Democratic candidates seem invested in creating an alternate universe where society's benefits flow only to old white males. I don't recognize the country that either one describes.

That said, most of this thread misquotes Beto. He said that America's founding was based on white supremacy and that our institutions continue to reflect that fact. For the most part that s true, but I do think he did scoundrel the tremendous progress made in the last 70 yeas.
The term 'white supremacy' implies being actively against anyone who isn't white.
""""""""""Your definition is right. The implication is correct, so do you have a point???""""""

Making a blanket statement that America's institutions today still operate by that standard is appalling and ridiculous and it's exactly what Robert Francis O'Rourke said.
"Robert Francis did not say we still operate by that standard." He is saying out institutions still 'reflect' that white supremacy, that's true isn't it?""""

It's also why he's a terrible candidate.
""""""""Dors not follow. What makes him a terrible candidate- he speaks a truth you don't want to hear?"""""

Do you not understand that saying **** like you just said hurts Democrat and makes the left look insane? Please keep doing it!
So the Left nor Democrats are at issue here. White supremacy and its continuing hold over some people and institutions is the issue. It's not a D or R issue.
Any current examples of white supremacy and its continuing hold over some people and institutions?
The sacred institution of voting - voter suppression is white supremacy driven.
Housing - Blacks move in. Whites move out.
Education/ Minorities still have crappy schools.
Got another one?

Schools are crappy for everyone.
Housing is bad for the poor.
Voting is screwed up.

It effects EVERYONE of every race.

You are trying to make it a racial issue and by doing so you are creating division, hatred, guilt etc.

That effects everyone is simply an argument that white supremacy is horrible for everyone. My point stand white supremacy still effects us.
No. Your premise was "based on white supremacy."


He's an idiot. Just stop. Make fun of him if you wish, but don't argue with him. He's impervious to facts, logic and reason.
Doc Holliday
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Waco1947 said:

Doc Holliday said:

Waco1947 said:

Doc Holliday said:

Waco1947 said:

Doc Holliday said:

Waco1947 said:

Doc Holliday said:

Booray said:

Donald Ttump created an alternate universe where America was under siege and economically crippled. Many of the Democratic candidates seem invested in creating an alternate universe where society's benefits flow only to old white males. I don't recognize the country that either one describes.

That said, most of this thread misquotes Beto. He said that America's founding was based on white supremacy and that our institutions continue to reflect that fact. For the most part that s true, but I do think he did scoundrel the tremendous progress made in the last 70 yeas.
The term 'white supremacy' implies being actively against anyone who isn't white.
""""""""""Your definition is right. The implication is correct, so do you have a point???""""""

Making a blanket statement that America's institutions today still operate by that standard is appalling and ridiculous and it's exactly what Robert Francis O'Rourke said.
"Robert Francis did not say we still operate by that standard." He is saying out institutions still 'reflect' that white supremacy, that's true isn't it?""""

It's also why he's a terrible candidate.
""""""""Dors not follow. What makes him a terrible candidate- he speaks a truth you don't want to hear?"""""

Do you not understand that saying **** like you just said hurts Democrat and makes the left look insane? Please keep doing it!
So the Left nor Democrats are at issue here. White supremacy and its continuing hold over some people and institutions is the issue. It's not a D or R issue.
Any current examples of white supremacy and its continuing hold over some people and institutions?
The sacred institution of voting - voter suppression is white supremacy driven.
Housing - Blacks move in. Whites move out.
Education/ Minorities still have crappy schools.
Got another one?

Schools are crappy for everyone.
Housing is bad for the poor.
Voting is screwed up.

It effects EVERYONE of every race.

You are trying to make it a racial issue and by doing so you are creating division, hatred, guilt etc.

That effects everyone is simply an argument that white supremacy is horrible for everyone. My point stand white supremacy still effects us.
And what is your solution for all this white supremacy?
Acknowledge it and beware of it on political issues.
For instance if white supremacy really effects voting to this day then policy I would expand voting registration, make voting easier, have a National Federal Holiday for voting, longer early voting, more polling places, etc. voting and the ability to vote democratic republic is the exercise of true political power.
White supremacy will attempt to limit voting especially for minorities. That's one example.

Where I'm from, assuming minorities are going to have a harder time voting is a racist assumption.
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As a resident of El Paso, I've been able to observe the Beto phenomenon up close. Through his own words and actions he is being shown for what we knew him to be. He is simply a rich boy wannabe. Surprised that other Texans thought he was worth voting for. I think he has been exposed by this political process for the fool he is. I don't think Texas has seen the last of this clown though. He will probably run against Cornyn, because don't you just know "I was born for this!"
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Then you better change where come from. Because voter suppression is real and racist.
Back in the day there was a Poll Tax". Blacks and brown were poor and could not vot.
There were literacy tests "How many bubbles in a bar of soap?"
Suppression among minorities is real and racists.
I go back to what I said about - what to do about white supremacy - I said "Wake up to its reality." So wake up. Voter suppression is real regardless of where you come from.
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WE NEED A REVOLUTION!!!!!!!!!
Doc Holliday
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Waco1947 said:

Then you better change where come from. Because voter suppression is real and racist.
Back in the day there was a Poll Tax". Blacks and brown were poor and could not vot.
There were literacy tests "How many bubbles in a bar of soap?"
Suppression among minorities is real and racists.
I go back to what I said about - what to do about white supremacy - I said "Wake up to its reality." So wake up. Voter suppression is real regardless of where you come from.
Wake up it's 2019.

Do you pretend to live in 1947?
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Doc Holliday said:

Waco1947 said:

Then you better change where come from. Because voter suppression is real and racist.
Back in the day there was a Poll Tax". Blacks and brown were poor and could not vot.
There were literacy tests "How many bubbles in a bar of soap?"
Suppression among minorities is real and racists.
I go back to what I said about - what to do about white supremacy - I said "Wake up to its reality." So wake up. Voter suppression is real regardless of where you come from.
Wake up it's 2019.

Do you pretend to live in 1947?
Yrs, it's 2019 but 1947 is a part of our history. Again in 2019 wake up the white supremacy that effects and confronts our country. Until you acknowledge it's continued effects you are powerless to change. Acknowledging is waking up. All I ask - is Wake up! You can figure the rest out later. Nothing is demanded of you except acknowledgement.
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Waco1947 said:

Doc Holliday said:

Waco1947 said:

Then you better change where come from. Because voter suppression is real and racist.
Back in the day there was a Poll Tax". Blacks and brown were poor and could not vot.
There were literacy tests "How many bubbles in a bar of soap?"
Suppression among minorities is real and racists.
I go back to what I said about - what to do about white supremacy - I said "Wake up to its reality." So wake up. Voter suppression is real regardless of where you come from.
Wake up it's 2019.

Do you pretend to live in 1947?
Yrs, it's 2019 but 1947 is a part of our history. Again in 2019 wake up the white supremacy that effects and confronts our country. Until you acknowledge it's continued effects you are powerless to change. Acknowledging is waking up. All I ask - is Wake up! You can figure the rest out later. Nothing is demanded of you except acknowledgement.

White supremacy is a very small portion of people in the U.S.

The largest problems we face are people like you looking to divide and conquer by creating hatred and discord.

All you have is slander and dehumanization of white people.
I believe your goal is to make white people hate themselves and have them believe their existence is a burden on society.

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Doc Holliday said:

Waco1947 said:

Doc Holliday said:

Waco1947 said:

Doc Holliday said:

Waco1947 said:

Doc Holliday said:

Waco1947 said:

Doc Holliday said:

Booray said:

Donald Ttump created an alternate universe where America was under siege and economically crippled. Many of the Democratic candidates seem invested in creating an alternate universe where society's benefits flow only to old white males. I don't recognize the country that either one describes.

That said, most of this thread misquotes Beto. He said that America's founding was based on white supremacy and that our institutions continue to reflect that fact. For the most part that s true, but I do think he did scoundrel the tremendous progress made in the last 70 yeas.
The term 'white supremacy' implies being actively against anyone who isn't white.
""""""""""Your definition is right. The implication is correct, so do you have a point???""""""

Making a blanket statement that America's institutions today still operate by that standard is appalling and ridiculous and it's exactly what Robert Francis O'Rourke said.
"Robert Francis did not say we still operate by that standard." He is saying out institutions still 'reflect' that white supremacy, that's true isn't it?""""

It's also why he's a terrible candidate.
""""""""Dors not follow. What makes him a terrible candidate- he speaks a truth you don't want to hear?"""""

Do you not understand that saying **** like you just said hurts Democrat and makes the left look insane? Please keep doing it!
So the Left nor Democrats are at issue here. White supremacy and its continuing hold over some people and institutions is the issue. It's not a D or R issue.
Any current examples of white supremacy and its continuing hold over some people and institutions?
The sacred institution of voting - voter suppression is white supremacy driven.
Housing - Blacks move in. Whites move out.
Education/ Minorities still have crappy schools.
Got another one?

Schools are crappy for everyone.
Housing is bad for the poor.
Voting is screwed up.

It effects EVERYONE of every race.

You are trying to make it a racial issue and by doing so you are creating division, hatred, guilt etc.

That effects everyone is simply an argument that white supremacy is horrible for everyone. My point stand white supremacy still effects us.
And what is your solution for all this white supremacy?
Acknowledge it and beware of it on political issues.
For instance if white supremacy really effects voting to this day then policy I would expand voting registration, make voting easier, have a National Federal Holiday for voting, longer early voting, more polling places, etc. voting and the ability to vote democratic republic is the exercise of true political power.
White supremacy will attempt to limit voting especially for minorities. That's one example.

Where I'm from, assuming minorities are going to have a harder time voting is a racist assumption.

Yep, the "soft bigotry of low expectations".
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YoakDaddy said:

He's an idiot that eats tacos with a fork. His words are not surprising.
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Waco1947 said:

Doc Holliday said:

Waco1947 said:

Doc Holliday said:

Booray said:

Donald Ttump created an alternate universe where America was under siege and economically crippled. Many of the Democratic candidates seem invested in creating an alternate universe where society's benefits flow only to old white males. I don't recognize the country that either one describes.

That said, most of this thread misquotes Beto. He said that America's founding was based on white supremacy and that our institutions continue to reflect that fact. For the most part that s true, but I do think he did scoundrel the tremendous progress made in the last 70 yeas.
The term 'white supremacy' implies being actively against anyone who isn't white.
""""""""""Your definition is right. The implication is correct, so do you have a point???""""""

Making a blanket statement that America's institutions today still operate by that standard is appalling and ridiculous and it's exactly what Robert Francis O'Rourke said.
"Robert Francis did not say we still operate by that standard." He is saying out institutions still 'reflect' that white supremacy, that's true isn't it?""""

It's also why he's a terrible candidate.
""""""""Dors not follow. What makes him a terrible candidate- he speaks a truth you don't want to hear?"""""

Do you not understand that saying **** like you just said hurts Democrat and makes the left look insane? Please keep doing it!
So the Left nor Democrats are at issue here. White supremacy and its continuing hold over some people and institutions is the issue. It's not a D or R issue.
Any current examples of white supremacy and its continuing hold over some people and institutions?


Education/ Minorities still have crappy schools.




And which party fights tooth and nail to prevent school choice?

Instead of being stuck in a bad school because you live in a bad neighborhood, you can go to a better school in a better neighborhood. "Heck, no!", say Democratic leaders.

Many single moms can't afford to live anywhere else but will move heaven and earth to get their kids in better schools. Too bad. Democrats want to keep you oppressed with little opportunity to assist your children in having a better life than you.
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Waco1947 said:

Doc Holliday said:

Waco1947 said:

Doc Holliday said:

Booray said:

Donald Ttump created an alternate universe where America was under siege and economically crippled. Many of the Democratic candidates seem invested in creating an alternate universe where society's benefits flow only to old white males. I don't recognize the country that either one describes.

That said, most of this thread misquotes Beto. He said that America's founding was based on white supremacy and that our institutions continue to reflect that fact. For the most part that s true, but I do think he did scoundrel the tremendous progress made in the last 70 yeas.
The term 'white supremacy' implies being actively against anyone who isn't white.
""""""""""Your definition is right. The implication is correct, so do you have a point???""""""

Making a blanket statement that America's institutions today still operate by that standard is appalling and ridiculous and it's exactly what Robert Francis O'Rourke said.
"Robert Francis did not say we still operate by that standard." He is saying out institutions still 'reflect' that white supremacy, that's true isn't it?""""

It's also why he's a terrible candidate.
""""""""Dors not follow. What makes him a terrible candidate- he speaks a truth you don't want to hear?"""""

Do you not understand that saying **** like you just said hurts Democrat and makes the left look insane? Please keep doing it!
So the Left nor Democrats are at issue here. White supremacy and its continuing hold over some people and institutions is the issue. It's not a D or R issue.
Any current examples of white supremacy and its continuing hold over some people and institutions?
The sacred institution of voting - voter suppression is white supremacy driven.
Housing - Blacks move in. Whites move out.
Education/ Minorities still have crappy schools.
Got another one?

White Supremacy was damn near extinct in this country until you people gave them new life. They were a few gnats on an elephant's balls and you decided to lift them up and make them larger than life. Dumbasses!!!!
"Stand with anyone when he is right; Stand with him while he is right and part with him when he goes wrong." - Abraham Lincoln
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90sBear said:

Waco1947 said:

90sBear said:

Waco1947 said:

contrario said:

Waco1947 said:

CammoTX said:



"Every institution"?!?!

Did the New Deal? What about the Peace Corps? What about Bush giving billions to fight AIDS in Africa? What about the Marshall Plan?

Please tell me in his heart of hearts he doesn't actually believe this.


Yes every institution in America and its beginning was based on white supremacy. Name that wasn't?.
I know for sure the Democratic Party was. And yet you still blindly support it despite its roots.
Immaterial and a red herring. You are wrong. Racists changed parties. It's called "The Southern Strategy." White supremacy was indeed in both parties at their beginnings.
Now name a institution in America not based on white supremacy
Name an institution in the world not based on one group suppressing another group.

Again immaterial. Cammo and Beto said "Every institution in America". Cammo seemed to object. I am asking why is Beto wrong about America
It is not immaterial. I'm curious what the logical point is to your question. If you are going to make your argument, then by extension you are arguing that every institution in the world is based on some group suppressing another at some point in time.

So if you are arguing that, then what is the point? Why should Beto make this an issue if every institution in the world is based on one group suppressing another?

If you take this to its full extension, everyone currently living is alive only because some ancestor of theirs belonged to a group that suppressed another group.
Yes to this....so what? Point being? etc, etc. The show "about nothing"
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Waco1947 said:

CammoTX said:



"Every institution"?!?!

Did the New Deal? What about the Peace Corps? What about Bush giving billions to fight AIDS in Africa? What about the Marshall Plan?

Please tell me in his heart of hearts he doesn't actually believe this.


Yes every institution in America and its beginning was based on white supremacy. Name that wasn't?.


No institution in the US was founded on white supremacy because you can't judge our Framers with today's morals.
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Waco1947 said:

90sBear said:

Waco1947 said:

contrario said:

Waco1947 said:

CammoTX said:



"Every institution"?!?!

Did the New Deal? What about the Peace Corps? What about Bush giving billions to fight AIDS in Africa? What about the Marshall Plan?

Please tell me in his heart of hearts he doesn't actually believe this.


Yes every institution in America and its beginning was based on white supremacy. Name that wasn't?.
I know for sure the Democratic Party was. And yet you still blindly support it despite its roots.
Immaterial and a red herring. You are wrong. Racists changed parties. It's called "The Southern Strategy." White supremacy was indeed in both parties at their beginnings.
Now name a institution in America not based on white supremacy
Name an institution in the world not based on one group suppressing another group.

Again immaterial. Cammo and Beto said "Every institution in America". Cammo seemed to object. I am asking why is Beto wrong about America

Because Beto is a GenX idiot. No branch of our United States military was founded upon white supremacy. They were all formed to fight and win wars.
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Canada2017 said:

Beto is finished. One of the most amazing acts of political self destruction ever .

Can't decide if the guy is simply stupid or suffering from a psychotic break.

Both
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trey3216 said:

Booray said:

Sam Lowry said:

Booray said:

Donald Ttump created an alternate universe where America was under siege and economically crippled. Many of the Democratic candidates seem invested in creating an alternate universe where society's benefits flow only to old white males. I don't recognize the country that either one describes.

That said, most of this thread misquotes Beto. He said that America's founding was based on white supremacy and that our institutions continue to reflect that fact. For the most part that s true, but I do think he discounts the tremendous progress made in the last 70 yeas.
To say America was white supremacist at its founding is different from saying it was founded on white supremacy. The ugly battles between our most barbaric political factions - e.g. Proud Boys and Antifa - are being fought by people who hold strongly to the latter belief. It's unfortunate that Beto wants to fuel that fire. What's worse is that he hasn't lost his mind. He knows exactly what he's doing and what appeals to his base.


I agree with the fueling the fire point. And it's true that our founding was not done to create shaven for white people; it was about our relationship with England not about race relations.

But that didn't matter much to you if you were a slave. We are 243 years old. I just wish sme candidate could focus n the whole 243 yeas rather than the first 170 or last 70.

Denying the hardship caused minorities during the first part or arguing those effects have been erased is just wishful thinking.

Denying that we aren't making substantial progress towards a color blnd/ gender blind society is equally flawed.
I wish a candidate would come out and describe how awful The New Deal, Great Society, and others have been for minorities and poor.

Not a candidate, but Candace Owens does an excellent job at this.
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riflebear said:

Redbrickbear said:

Waco1947 said:

contrario said:

Waco1947 said:

CammoTX said:



"Every institution"?!?!

Did the New Deal? What about the Peace Corps? What about Bush giving billions to fight AIDS in Africa? What about the Marshall Plan?

Please tell me in his heart of hearts he doesn't actually believe this.


Yes every institution in America and its beginning was based on white supremacy. Name that wasn't?.


Now name a institution in America not based on white supremacy
Name an institution in Israel not based on Jewish supremacy.

Name an institution in Japan not based on Japanese supremacy.

Name an institution in Saudi Arabia not based on Arab supremacy.

Name an institution in Nigeria not based on the supremacy of native born black Nigerian majority.

Nation states are built by and for the majority ethnic/racial/cultural group.
None of those had 'white privilege' so it doesn't really register for libs.


I guess the question is US should be built "for" any dominant group? Certainly at time of colonization we were, but really, who cares? And I don't think the fact Western Europeans settled US makes us white supremists. Question is, do we have policies today that impact non white US citizens? Those should be fixed, the 1840's are done
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trey3216 said:

Booray said:

Sam Lowry said:

Booray said:

Donald Ttump created an alternate universe where America was under siege and economically crippled. Many of the Democratic candidates seem invested in creating an alternate universe where society's benefits flow only to old white males. I don't recognize the country that either one describes.

That said, most of this thread misquotes Beto. He said that America's founding was based on white supremacy and that our institutions continue to reflect that fact. For the most part that s true, but I do think he discounts the tremendous progress made in the last 70 yeas.
To say America was white supremacist at its founding is different from saying it was founded on white supremacy. The ugly battles between our most barbaric political factions - e.g. Proud Boys and Antifa - are being fought by people who hold strongly to the latter belief. It's unfortunate that Beto wants to fuel that fire. What's worse is that he hasn't lost his mind. He knows exactly what he's doing and what appeals to his base.


I agree with the fueling the fire point. And it's true that our founding was not done to create shaven for white people; it was about our relationship with England not about race relations.

But that didn't matter much to you if you were a slave. We are 243 years old. I just wish sme candidate could focus n the whole 243 yeas rather than the first 170 or last 70.

Denying the hardship caused minorities during the first part or arguing those effects have been erased is just wishful thinking.

Denying that we aren't making substantial progress towards a color blnd/ gender blind society is equally flawed.
I wish a candidate would come out and describe how awful The New Deal, Great Society, and others have been for minorities and poor.


^^^ Brilliant!!! Absolutely brilliant!
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Doc Holliday said:

Booray said:

Doc Holliday said:

Booray said:

Donald Ttump created an alternate universe where America was under siege and economically crippled. Many of the Democratic candidates seem invested in creating an alternate universe where society's benefits flow only to old white males. I don't recognize the country that either one describes.

That said, most of this thread misquotes Beto. He said that America's founding was based on white supremacy and that our institutions continue to reflect that fact. For the most part that s true, but I do think he did scoundrel the tremendous progress made in the last 70 yeas.
The term 'white supremacy' implies being actively against anyone who isn't white. Making a blanket statement that America's institutions today still operate by that standard is appalling and ridiculous and it's exactly what Robert Francis O'Rourke said.

It's also why he's a terrible candiate.

Do you not understand that saying **** like you just said hurts Democrat and makes the left look insane? Please keep doing it!



He said no such thing. He said our institutions reflect the legacy of white supremacy. That is different than saying our own institutions practice white supremacy.
Please explain how NASA reflects a legacy of white supremacy.
The space shuttle is WHITE, come on Doc - keep up.
 
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