curtpenn said:
quash said:
57Bear said:
quash said:
Malbec said:
Mueller testimony: What would change your mind?
Certainly nothing I saw or heard today.
As Reason called it. Today was nothing more than an exercise in confirmation bias.
So it's safe to say that today's testimony confirmed your bias.
What testimony? I read the book and listened to Mueller's presser. He wasn't going to add anything today. Appears that he didn't. Shock.
I didn't read the report and have no interest in it. I did have Mueller's testimony on, but found it difficult to pay attention and attempt to actually work at the same time. My pre-determined position all along has been that whatever it is the Russians may have done or attempted to do to influence our election had little to no effect on the actual outcome. Further, I seriously doubt the President had any dealings with Russians or their agents. With those two underlying assumptions, I had long since determined that whatever it is that Mueller and his group are doing amounted to a classic witch hunt devoid of any true search for actual wrong doing (and I use "actual" as opposed to a more literal "letter of the law" construct). That's all a probably confusing preamble to asking you if you think there were ever any efforts by the President to gain the help of Russians to help him win the election? I would be very unhappy to discover that, but, considering Hillary as the alternative, I don't really much care about that in all honesty.
I ask you this because, even though I often disagree with what you say, I generally find your responses reasoned and knowledgeable and believe you will give a straight answer. FWIW, given my declared assumptions about the witch hunt aspects of this investigation, I couldn't care less about "obstruction" regardless of whatever legal(istic) statutes may apply. I consider it justifiable self-defense against the Left's dirty tricks.
First, I said after reading the report that I didn't see collusion. I'd have been surprised if they found that. Sorry, but yes I think there was obstructon. Nobody remembers the Nixon Rule: the cover up is worse than the crime.
I don't think the Russian goal was to elect Trump, I think their goal was to divide us. And I think they succeeded. Along the way, however, I think they assisted Cambridge Analytica with "the persuadables" by amplifying their message.
“Life, liberty, and property do not exist because men have made laws. On the contrary, it was the fact that life, liberty, and property existed beforehand that caused men to make laws in the first place.” (The Law, p.6) Frederic Bastiat