Democratic Debate no. 3

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codyorr
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If you had "speak Spanish in opening statement" on your bingo card, you're already drinking.
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Wichitabear
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What the heck is Beto still on there!!! I really thought he would have been eliminated by now!!!
Jack Bauer
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How is Beto in the top 10??
Wichitabear
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That's what I want to know!!!!
Florda_mike
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Jack Bauer said:

How is Beto in the top 10??


It's the DNC

Doc Holliday
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- No more private health care

- You're racist and you don't even realize it

- Trump's a white supremacist and a "mortal threat to people of color."

- We're taking away your guns

-Extremely High taxes and regulations

Clearly they're going after the radical vote. They're making Republicans look sane.
BaylorOkie
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riflebear
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Jack Bauer said:

How is Beto in the top 10??


I think it had something to do with total amount raised and/or total donors plus poll #s.

He was basically grandfathered in a few months ago because of his early head start. Thankfully he's been exposed.

https://www.texastribune.org/2019/08/20/julian-castro-qualifies-third-democratic-debate-september/
Guy Noir
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The whole debate has focused on problems in the country. It seems nothing is good. The plans that are presented to pay for programs are really far fetched.
Doc Holliday
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Guy Noir said:

The whole debate has focused on problems in the country. It seems nothing is good. The plans that are presented to pay for programs are really far fetched.
I believe I've read their combined proposals would cost nearly $200 trillion in a decade.

Between the green new deal, "free" college, "free" insurance, universal basic income. Etc.

They might as well tell the guy making $60k a year that he can keep $15k of it.
ScottS
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2 things....abortion and socialism
Forest Bueller
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Well, Joe is just over the hill though he seems a fairly nice man. Gabbert, the other sane democrat left has been eliminated by the powers that be.

Democrats running have been reduced to story telling and out "victiming" each other, they seem to be trying to create an entire empire devoted to being a victim. The crowd isn't even enthusiastic.

So assuming Trumps is of satan as the democrats seem to imply, this garbage is all they have to offer?

No thank you.
riflebear
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I saw in post debate analysis there was not ONE question about the economy. Hmmm, I wonder why?
If that's true, that's insane.

I've yet to watch a debate live, just post debate analysis. It's a waist of someone's life to watch these radicals debate each other.

riflebear
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I don't know if there are enough pinocchios to debunk this 'story'.

ScottS
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Beto is a joke
Wichitabear
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I can't stand to hear him talk. Just his voice makes me feel like nails going down a chalk board. Yes I lived during the chalk board era.
riflebear
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Surprised it took her this long to figure it out.

PacificBear
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Clown show
Florda_mike
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Joker show
MilliVanilli
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If Trump could learn just to shut up, playing democrat soundbites is enough rope to let them hang themselves and he would cruise to a second term...he's his own worst enemy and his own gaffes are the only thing that makes any of these clowns remotely electable.

Buddha Bear
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riflebear said:

I saw in post debate analysis there was not ONE question about the economy. Hmmm, I wonder why?
If that's true, that's insane.

I've yet to watch a debate live, just post debate analysis. It's a waist of someone's life to watch these radicals debate each other.



I think it's important to watch both Republican and Democratic debates in full. The post coverage to me doesn't give a well rounded, accurate representation of the candidate. Getting just the snippits kinda adds to the divide in my opinion, and we all end up demonizing candidates.
JXL
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riflebear said:

I don't know if there are enough pinocchios to debunk this 'story'.




Makes perfect sense that the people buying those weapons (for hundreds of dollars) would tell him that they don't need them and would gladly destroy them.
Florda_mike
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JXL said:

riflebear said:

I don't know if there are enough pinocchios to debunk this 'story'.




Makes perfect sense that the people buying those weapons (for hundreds of dollars) would tell him that they don't need them and would gladly destroy them.


Pinocchio yes!!!
FormerFlash
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I actually watched the entire thing because I'm a glutton for punishment. Actually, I expected fireworks between Biden and Warren. We didn't get much there, but I am willing to provide a synopsis of each candidate's body of work from the evening, for your enjoyment. Here goes:

Elizabeth Warren: I'm going to repeatedly dodge questions about what my healthcare for all plan will do to taxes and focus on deductibles coming down, even when the moderator specifically says to me, "I know you believe deductibles will come down, but what about taxes." I'm definitely not answering that. Blah blah blah rich people are bad blah blah blah corporations are bad blah blah blah profit is bad blah blah blah capitalism is bad blah blah blah government is good. I have a punchers chance at winning the nomination if Joe screws up enough.

Amy Klobuchar: I just spew pre-written lines that don't land and sound totally scripted and fake. I have a 0% chance of winning.

Julian Castro: I have little man syndrome and I'm playing spoiler by attacking Joe Biden to submarine his bid for the nomination. I have a 0% chance of winning. (Yes, I'm actually standing on a little box behind my podium to make me look taller.)

Kamala Harris: I'm just going to attack Trump every time I get the chance to speak. I have a 9% chance of winning but I bet I can get a VP nod because I'm a woman and I'm black.

Corey Booker: I'm not sure why I'm even here. I've added literally nothing but I did bring my angry eyes because I'm the Mr. Potato Head of politics. I hope no one notices have 13 extra bottom teeth. I have a 0% chance of winning.

Bernie Sanders: I'll have a foot long meatball on italian herbs and cheese. What? This isn't subway? Where am I? Miraculously, I have roughly a 30% chance of winning.

Pete Bootyjudge: Although I'm the best politician on the stage, I wouldn't be here if I wasn't gay. I have a 2% chance of winning.

Beto O'Rourke: I'm taking all your guns by force. Vote for Beto! I'll drive straight over the constitution in a drunken hit and run my dad will make go away. I have a 0% chance of winning.

Andrew Yang: I'm the only person on the stage who's actually functioned and thrived in the private sector. I'm not a complete pandering moron and some of my ideas are novel and might actually work. I'm articulate and people really seem to like me. I'm nowhere near as radical as the rest of these idiots. For precisely all these reasons, I have a 0% chance of winning.

Joe Biden: Did you know I was Obama's VP? My healthcare plan is slightly cheaper than Warren's and Sander's. I'm supposed to be the moderate on stage but my policies are further left than both Hillary Clinton's and Obama's cuz that's what the small minority of radical lefties on twitter want. I should win as long as I don't screw it up by saying something monumentally stupid, like referring to Bernie as "the President." Whoops. That already happened tonight.

I think that about sums it up.
fadskier
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I might actually take a look at Yang if he wins the nomination.
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FormerFlash
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fadskier said:

I might actually take a look at Yang if he wins the nomination.
For a Democrat, I like him a lot. He did a Sunday Special with Ben Shapiro that I'm sure is on YouTube. It was really good.
Guy Noir
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I watched a lot of the debate. I thought almost everyone on stage was pretty far out on spending and healthcare and gun control. I thought Amy Klobuchar was the most rational. She was the most centrist and she brought up a great point about 3 gun control bills that are stuck on Mitch McConnell's desk. The bill did not seem unreasonable. Klobuchar was calling for action now. I think that exhibited a real solution step.

Most of the other solutions offered during the debate (on all topics) were extreme and would have weaknesses that the Democratic party tends to ignore. The major weakness is ignoring how this program will be funded. The programs are so open-ended that spending will most likely exceed revenues.

I heard a lot of talk about how bad it is in the United States. There was no mention of the current positive economic situation. If any of these socialist programs are implemented this would put a damper on the economy.

I heard a lot about the freedom to choose ones Doctor in the Health Care area. The loss of the freedom to choose treatments that deviate from Medicare policy is something that is being ignored. If a doctor chooses to do a test or a treatment because of a concern about an individual circumstance. The insurance company or Medicare will not pay if it deviates from their care guidelines. An example that I have experienced: I see the Dr for a blood test every quarter to check my blood sugar level. The Dr would have me come in 2 days before the followup meeting so that he could review the results and adjust any prescriptions. The Medicare guideline is that the Dr should see the patient before ordering the blood test. Now I see the Dr and I get the blood test on that day.
Any adjustment that is needed is now done at the next quarterly appointment. Thus treatment lags 3 months due to a Medicare policy. This change occurred when I was on a private insurance policy. The Dr was aligning his treatments for all patients bot private insurance or medicare.
FormerFlash
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Guy Noir said:

"The major weakness is ignoring how this program will be funded. The programs are so open-ended that spending will most likely exceed revenues."
This is really the key here. They either ignore the topic of how to fund these grand proposals all together, or they simply say they're going to tax the wealthy. I think the estimations they use on those taxes are extremely optimistic and likely won't pay for a even a fraction of their bloated policies. Rich people aren't stupid and neither are their wealth managers. They will shield their money through any number of ways available to them and there won't be much the federal government can do to stop it, further skewing their wealth tax projections.
Johnny Bear
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Any of these candidates would be a disaster if elected. Any of them.
Waco1947
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Thank you for the GOP biased tirades. We, Dems, will be sure to take them into account. Thank you for your input
Waco1947 ,la
Texasjeremy
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Wichitabear said:

What the heck is Beto still on there!!! I really thought he would have been eliminated by now!!!
The bar is still very low.
Aliceinbubbleland
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Amy Klobuchar is about the only sensible candidate they have and there is no way she will be at the top of their ticket. It's Joe's to lose and I'm more and more concerned he will take someone like Robert Francis fake Beto as his running mate.
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blackie
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Aliceinbubbleland said:

Amy Klobuchar is about the only sensible candidate they have and there is no way she will be at the top of their ticket. It's Joe's to lose and I'm more and more concerned he will take someone like Robert Francis fake Beto as his running mate.
Better bet that he would take a woman. Our choices in 2020 won't be any better than in 2016. I suspect that integrity, honesty, diplomacy, and civility in politics have gone the way of the dinosaur in this country.
Waco1947
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Let's pause for prayer and thank the Lord for the wisdom of these trump supporters for their opinions of Democratic candidates.
......... Amen
Waco1947 ,la
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You don't pray. Never have.
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