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Hopefully the Turks will send those 70,000 mfers to meet Allah and collect their 72 virgins. That just might make most of this make sense.

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That's 5 million and forty thousand virgins in one fell swoop

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Canada2017 said:

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HuMcK said:

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If Trump,is changing American foreign policy for the better (he's not), he is doing it unbeknownst to himself and quite by accident

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So what would you do? Declare war and send 4,000 American troops to Northern Syria? Serious question. (This should be good!)

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Our little leftist would *****ed first and loudest if Trump had gone to war with Turkey protecting an ethnic group 90% of Americans never knew existed 2 weeks ago.

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Stop lying about a war with Turkey over Kurds, because that wasn't going to happen. We didn't need to fight them to protect the Kurds, all we needed to do was stay put while we negotiated a peacekeeping arrangement and not stab the Kurds in the back. Once upon a time we had leadership that had balls enough to tell Turkey no, but this current POTUS has corrupt personal dealings with Turkey so apparently that's a thing of the past.

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You don't have a clue what the Turks were going to do.

Your hatred of Trump blinds you constantly.

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Keeping your head up Trump's ass has apparently blinded a lot of y'all to reality. I can extrapolate based on Turkey's observed behavior up to this point, and they declined to initiate this offensive until we got out of the way. I see no reason to believe that wouldn't have held for at least the near future.

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Because you are a simpleton.

Turkey has always played a ruthless game. When they decide to move ...they don't give a **** . Turks consider themselves superior fighting troops against all comers .

Ask the British, Armenians and Arabs.

Trump did the right thing. Not even a close call .

Sam Lowry said:

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Against all odds, he's fundamentally changing foreign policy (for the better).

Quote:

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Why Trump Sort of Reminds Us of Charles De Gaulle
The two are very different, but when we deconstruct his foreign policy, we find a lot of good gut instinct.
By Leon Hadar October 9, 2019

Trump has embraced President Barack Obama's "Don't do stupid ****" foreign policy. Yet he seems to be doing a much better job of implementing that advice by more forcefully resisting the unrelenting pressure from the interventionist "Blob" (knock on wood).

So Trump, who has been ridiculed by members of the so-called intellectual elite as a lightweight, has refused to give a green light to a U.S. military intervention in Syria, rejecting the advice of those who would pursue another regime change there.

It is true that his diplomacy with North Korea and his friendship with its dictator has not brought about the denuclearization of the Korean Peninsula. But then no one seriously believed that was going to happen under any scenario. From that perspective, Trump has helped avert a catastrophic war in the area and encouraged reconciliation between the North and the South, which could one day lead to a united Korea that would no longer require U.S. troops to protect it.

It may not be the Grand Strategy that members of Washington's foreign policy establishment are looking for. But Trump's decisions have already set the stage for long-term strategic changes in East Asia, where an evolving Korean nationalism countered by a sense of Japanese nationalism could help create a new and stable regional balance of power that would make direct U.S. military intervention unnecessary.

In the Middle East, by firing John Bolton, expressing a willingness to meet with his Iranian counterpart, and refusing to drag the U.S. into military conflict with Iran in the aftermath of the attacks on the Saudi oil installations, Trump has sent a clear message to the Saudis that they need to pursue a detente with Tehran. The U.S. will not intervene in a war between the Sunnis and the Shiites in the Middle East. Period. And take it from there.

Then there is the message he is sending to a leading player in the Middle East, Turkey, and another regional actor down on the scale, the Kurds, with his recent announcement that he's ending U.S. involvement in Syria. It's not much different than his message to Israel and the Palestinians: hey guys, you need to resolve your differences among yourselves - we can only help. Regional powers like Turkey and Israel - and in the long run, Iran - will be able to maintain spheres of influence in order to protect their security and as part of any evolving balance of power, and minor players, like the Kurds and the Palestinians, will have to accept that.

https://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/why-trump-sort-of-reminds-us-of-charles-de-gaulle/

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The timing for this thread could not be much worse.

Just like you not only cheerfully tolerated/ignored/believed people should just accept sexual and physical abuse of children and women by priests (and, in orphanages, nuns) cuz the Pope/The Church are inerrant, you now make the Trump inerrancy case again and again and again and again. Downright gleefully.

The next few weeks are going to be ugly. But you'll find a way to spin them to fit your "Trump's a genius" narrative. You always do.

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Get lost ...you anxiety prone , man hating , hypocrite.

Your fellow leftist initiated this exchange .

Now run along and resume sticking needles in your Trump doll.


Calms you down .

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Go post on an A&M thread. Those are your people. Even former Aggie Cheerleaders, participants in the most homoerotic football ritual ever (Squeeze, Ags!--no one ever believes me when I tell them this is really what Aggies do), ought to be embarrassed by the Right's attraction for Trump, one of the singularly most vain, unattractive men on the planet. Do you all look like him, too? Or, worse, aspire to look like him, with that helicopter landing pad raft of fake hair? He puts Tammy Faye Bakker to shame, and Dolly Parton has more realistic looking hair (and much, much more intelligence--Dolly for president!)

Go back to that church of yours .....yeah the one praising the God you don't believe in .

Conjure up more alt nicks ....pretend thats also rational behavior .

Hate people who disagree with you , hate people that don't measure up your hypocrisy, but by all means hate each and every man you've ever met.

See....it's not you....it's the rest of the world . The world has 'hurt you'.

And they gotta pay .

Canada2017 said:

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Go back to that church of yours .....yeah the one praising the God you don't believe in .

Conjure up more alt nicks ....pretend thats also rational behavior .

Hate people who disagree with you , hate people that don't measure up your hypocrisy, but by all means hate each and every man you've ever met.

See....it's not you....it's the rest of the world . The world has 'hurt you'.

And they gotta pay .

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Woof. Bro. This is just hateful. Not fair at all.

BrooksBearLives said:

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Canada2017 said:

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Go back to that church of yours .....yeah the one praising the God you don't believe in .

Conjure up more alt nicks ....pretend thats also rational behavior .

Hate people who disagree with you , hate people that don't measure up your hypocrisy, but by all means hate each and every man you've ever met.

See....it's not you....it's the rest of the world . The world has 'hurt you'.

And they gotta pay .

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Woof. Bro. This is just hateful. Not fair at all.

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Dude...until you read what first gets delivered my way....stay the hell out of my business .

Tired of your selective judgements.

Canada2017 said:

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BrooksBearLives said:

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Canada2017 said:

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Go back to that church of yours .....yeah the one praising the God you don't believe in .

Conjure up more alt nicks ....pretend thats also rational behavior .

Hate people who disagree with you , hate people that don't measure up your hypocrisy, but by all means hate each and every man you've ever met.

See....it's not you....it's the rest of the world . The world has 'hurt you'.

And they gotta pay .

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Woof. Bro. This is just hateful. Not fair at all.

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Dude...until you read what first gets delivered my way....stay the hell out of my business .

Tired of your selective judgements.

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Tired?

Well thank God that fatigue doesn't extend to your very brave thumbs. Don't know what the world would be like without your insults on a message board.

BrooksBearLives said:

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Canada2017 said:

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BrooksBearLives said:

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Canada2017 said:

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Go back to that church of yours .....yeah the one praising the God you don't believe in .

Conjure up more alt nicks ....pretend thats also rational behavior .

Hate people who disagree with you , hate people that don't measure up your hypocrisy, but by all means hate each and every man you've ever met.

See....it's not you....it's the rest of the world . The world has 'hurt you'.

And they gotta pay .

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Woof. Bro. This is just hateful. Not fair at all.

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Dude...until you read what first gets delivered my way....stay the hell out of my business .

Tired of your selective judgements.

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Tired?

Well thank God that fatigue doesn't extend to your very brave thumbs. Don't know what the world would be like without your insults on a message board.

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Again .....read the thread .....it's self explanatory.

If you can't be bothered with such annoying details before assigning blame......

then ................................have a nice day .

Canada2017 said:

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BrooksBearLives said:

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Canada2017 said:

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BrooksBearLives said:

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Canada2017 said:

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Go back to that church of yours .....yeah the one praising the God you don't believe in .

Conjure up more alt nicks ....pretend thats also rational behavior .

Hate people who disagree with you , hate people that don't measure up your hypocrisy, but by all means hate each and every man you've ever met.

See....it's not you....it's the rest of the world . The world has 'hurt you'.

And they gotta pay .

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Woof. Bro. This is just hateful. Not fair at all.

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Dude...until you read what first gets delivered my way....stay the hell out of my business .

Tired of your selective judgements.

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Tired?

Well thank God that fatigue doesn't extend to your very brave thumbs. Don't know what the world would be like without your insults on a message board.

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Again .....read the thread .....it's self explanatory.

If you can't be bothered with such annoying details before assigning blame......

then ................................have a nice day .

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I read the thread.

You were refusing to engage and only responding with dismissive insults throughout.

That's it. No engagement. Just insults.

You're putting nothing good into this part of the world. Just more venom.

Jinx 2 said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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Against all odds, he's fundamentally changing foreign policy (for the better).

Quote:

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Why Trump Sort of Reminds Us of Charles De Gaulle
The two are very different, but when we deconstruct his foreign policy, we find a lot of good gut instinct.
By Leon Hadar October 9, 2019

Trump has embraced President Barack Obama's "Don't do stupid ****" foreign policy. Yet he seems to be doing a much better job of implementing that advice by more forcefully resisting the unrelenting pressure from the interventionist "Blob" (knock on wood).

So Trump, who has been ridiculed by members of the so-called intellectual elite as a lightweight, has refused to give a green light to a U.S. military intervention in Syria, rejecting the advice of those who would pursue another regime change there.

It is true that his diplomacy with North Korea and his friendship with its dictator has not brought about the denuclearization of the Korean Peninsula. But then no one seriously believed that was going to happen under any scenario. From that perspective, Trump has helped avert a catastrophic war in the area and encouraged reconciliation between the North and the South, which could one day lead to a united Korea that would no longer require U.S. troops to protect it.

It may not be the Grand Strategy that members of Washington's foreign policy establishment are looking for. But Trump's decisions have already set the stage for long-term strategic changes in East Asia, where an evolving Korean nationalism countered by a sense of Japanese nationalism could help create a new and stable regional balance of power that would make direct U.S. military intervention unnecessary.

In the Middle East, by firing John Bolton, expressing a willingness to meet with his Iranian counterpart, and refusing to drag the U.S. into military conflict with Iran in the aftermath of the attacks on the Saudi oil installations, Trump has sent a clear message to the Saudis that they need to pursue a detente with Tehran. The U.S. will not intervene in a war between the Sunnis and the Shiites in the Middle East. Period. And take it from there.

Then there is the message he is sending to a leading player in the Middle East, Turkey, and another regional actor down on the scale, the Kurds, with his recent announcement that he's ending U.S. involvement in Syria. It's not much different than his message to Israel and the Palestinians: hey guys, you need to resolve your differences among yourselves - we can only help. Regional powers like Turkey and Israel - and in the long run, Iran - will be able to maintain spheres of influence in order to protect their security and as part of any evolving balance of power, and minor players, like the Kurds and the Palestinians, will have to accept that.

https://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/why-trump-sort-of-reminds-us-of-charles-de-gaulle/

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The timing for this thread could not be much worse.

Just like you not only cheerfully tolerated/ignored/believed people should just accept sexual and physical abuse of children and women by priests (and, in orphanages, nuns) cuz the Pope/The Church are inerrant, you now make the Trump inerrancy case again and again and again and again. Downright gleefully.

The next few weeks are going to be ugly. But you'll find a way to spin them to fit your "Trump's a genius" narrative. You always do.

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Tell us what you think of Archbishop Vigano. Then come back and tell us how concerned you really are about the victims of clerical sex abuse. I look forward to your response.

TexasScientist said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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TexasScientist said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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TexasScientist said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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Against all odds, he's fundamentally changing foreign policy (for the better).

Quote:

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Why Trump Sort of Reminds Us of Charles De Gaulle
The two are very different, but when we deconstruct his foreign policy, we find a lot of good gut instinct.
By Leon Hadar October 9, 2019

Trump has embraced President Barack Obama's "Don't do stupid ****" foreign policy. Yet he seems to be doing a much better job of implementing that advice by more forcefully resisting the unrelenting pressure from the interventionist "Blob" (knock on wood).

So Trump, who has been ridiculed by members of the so-called intellectual elite as a lightweight, has refused to give a green light to a U.S. military intervention in Syria, rejecting the advice of those who would pursue another regime change there.

It is true that his diplomacy with North Korea and his friendship with its dictator has not brought about the denuclearization of the Korean Peninsula. But then no one seriously believed that was going to happen under any scenario. From that perspective, Trump has helped avert a catastrophic war in the area and encouraged reconciliation between the North and the South, which could one day lead to a united Korea that would no longer require U.S. troops to protect it.

It may not be the Grand Strategy that members of Washington's foreign policy establishment are looking for. But Trump's decisions have already set the stage for long-term strategic changes in East Asia, where an evolving Korean nationalism countered by a sense of Japanese nationalism could help create a new and stable regional balance of power that would make direct U.S. military intervention unnecessary.

In the Middle East, by firing John Bolton, expressing a willingness to meet with his Iranian counterpart, and refusing to drag the U.S. into military conflict with Iran in the aftermath of the attacks on the Saudi oil installations, Trump has sent a clear message to the Saudis that they need to pursue a detente with Tehran. The U.S. will not intervene in a war between the Sunnis and the Shiites in the Middle East. Period. And take it from there.

Then there is the message he is sending to a leading player in the Middle East, Turkey, and another regional actor down on the scale, the Kurds, with his recent announcement that he's ending U.S. involvement in Syria. It's not much different than his message to Israel and the Palestinians: hey guys, you need to resolve your differences among yourselves - we can only help. Regional powers like Turkey and Israel - and in the long run, Iran - will be able to maintain spheres of influence in order to protect their security and as part of any evolving balance of power, and minor players, like the Kurds and the Palestinians, will have to accept that.

https://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/why-trump-sort-of-reminds-us-of-charles-de-gaulle/

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I wouldn't consider Charles De Gaulle an example of someone to model our president after. The issue is not whether we will or should pull out of the Middle East conflicts, but how. You do it in a well thought out plan to minimize creating instability, a vacuum, and invitation to others who would seek to take advantage of a precipitous, ill conceived U. S. withdrawal. Seven hundred Isis fighter escaped per Fox News Sunday. On Thursday Trump said there were no more U. S troops in Syria, yet today we are pulling out 1,000 troops from Syria. At the same time he is sending more troops to Saudi Arabia. The guy clearly is a light weight and doesn't understand the consequences of his whimsical and destabilizing decisions. BTW - All of what you quote above is the status quo of what we had before 9/11. Where is the progress the self proclaimed genius is making?

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It was not the status quo before 9/11. Far from it. We've had a policy of regime change for a long time.

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Which regime were we actively seeking to change and engaged in changing before 9/11? Turkey? Syria? Iraq? Saudi Arabia? UAE? Kuwait? Israel? Jordan? Yemen? Oman? Qatar? Iran? Afghanistan? Pakistan? Lebanon?
Wasn't our policy, instead one of maintaining the peace and attempting to get all of the players in the Middle East to come to terms in a peace treaty?

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No. We were seeking regime change in Iraq by obliterating its economy.

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We were seeking to get compliance out of Iraq. If we wanted regime change, we wouldn't have stopped outside Baghdad in the Gulf War and left Husain in power. That was one of the main criticisms of 41, not changing the regime when we could have.

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True about the criticism, but also note that the US supported Saddam all through the 1980s vs Iran and still needed him in power after the Kuwait invasion to offset Iran....and the UN authorization did not include Saddam's removal.

quash said:

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Trump's presidency matters because it exposed how weak-kneed Congress has been, and just how far an authoritarian in the WH can go. And how partisan values mean so much less than party.

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I'd go as far to say that Trump's presidency matters because it's demonstrated that there's zero difference between the establishments of either party and he's a threat to the political oligarchy's misdeeds of the last 30 years being aired out.

YoakDaddy said:

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quash said:

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Trump's presidency matters because it exposed how weak-kneed Congress has been, and just how far an authoritarian in the WH can go. And how partisan values mean so much less than party.

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I'd go as far to say that Trump's presidency matters because it's demonstrated that there's zero difference between the establishments of either party and he's a threat to the political oligarchy's misdeeds of the last 30 years being aired out.

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This is nihilism.

Also:

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https://www.yahoo.com/news/us-pulling-northern-syria-full-043158088.html

So now we are sanctioning Turkey for the very conduct we allowed. You would think that if DJT was going to allow the Turks to have what they have long wanted, we could have gotten something out of it. Instead the master negotiator is going to ruin our reputation as a dependable ally; see lots of ISIS fighters back breathing free air; strengthen the Russian/Assad influence in the area AND push Turkey further away.

So much winning.

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Erdogan has been talking tough against the Kurds while expecting Trump to restrain him. Trump has done so for a long time, but he's also made it clear that we were only there to defeat ISIS and that we had no intention of staying. Without saying so, Erdogan will likely regard the sanctions as a mixed blessing. They will serve as a political excuse not to over-extend Turkey's position.

Sam Lowry said:

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Jinx 2 said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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Against all odds, he's fundamentally changing foreign policy (for the better).

Quote:

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Why Trump Sort of Reminds Us of Charles De Gaulle
The two are very different, but when we deconstruct his foreign policy, we find a lot of good gut instinct.
By Leon Hadar October 9, 2019

Trump has embraced President Barack Obama's "Don't do stupid ****" foreign policy. Yet he seems to be doing a much better job of implementing that advice by more forcefully resisting the unrelenting pressure from the interventionist "Blob" (knock on wood).

So Trump, who has been ridiculed by members of the so-called intellectual elite as a lightweight, has refused to give a green light to a U.S. military intervention in Syria, rejecting the advice of those who would pursue another regime change there.

It is true that his diplomacy with North Korea and his friendship with its dictator has not brought about the denuclearization of the Korean Peninsula. But then no one seriously believed that was going to happen under any scenario. From that perspective, Trump has helped avert a catastrophic war in the area and encouraged reconciliation between the North and the South, which could one day lead to a united Korea that would no longer require U.S. troops to protect it.

It may not be the Grand Strategy that members of Washington's foreign policy establishment are looking for. But Trump's decisions have already set the stage for long-term strategic changes in East Asia, where an evolving Korean nationalism countered by a sense of Japanese nationalism could help create a new and stable regional balance of power that would make direct U.S. military intervention unnecessary.

In the Middle East, by firing John Bolton, expressing a willingness to meet with his Iranian counterpart, and refusing to drag the U.S. into military conflict with Iran in the aftermath of the attacks on the Saudi oil installations, Trump has sent a clear message to the Saudis that they need to pursue a detente with Tehran. The U.S. will not intervene in a war between the Sunnis and the Shiites in the Middle East. Period. And take it from there.

Then there is the message he is sending to a leading player in the Middle East, Turkey, and another regional actor down on the scale, the Kurds, with his recent announcement that he's ending U.S. involvement in Syria. It's not much different than his message to Israel and the Palestinians: hey guys, you need to resolve your differences among yourselves - we can only help. Regional powers like Turkey and Israel - and in the long run, Iran - will be able to maintain spheres of influence in order to protect their security and as part of any evolving balance of power, and minor players, like the Kurds and the Palestinians, will have to accept that.

https://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/why-trump-sort-of-reminds-us-of-charles-de-gaulle/

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The timing for this thread could not be much worse.

Just like you not only cheerfully tolerated/ignored/believed people should just accept sexual and physical abuse of children and women by priests (and, in orphanages, nuns) cuz the Pope/The Church are inerrant, you now make the Trump inerrancy case again and again and again and again. Downright gleefully.

The next few weeks are going to be ugly. But you'll find a way to spin them to fit your "Trump's a genius" narrative. You always do.

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Tell us what you think of Archbishop Vigano. Then come back and tell us how concerned you really are about the victims of clerical sex abuse. I look forward to your response.

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Jinx?

BrooksBearLives said:

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YoakDaddy said:

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quash said:

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Trump's presidency matters because it exposed how weak-kneed Congress has been, and just how far an authoritarian in the WH can go. And how partisan values mean so much less than party.

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I'd go as far to say that Trump's presidency matters because it's demonstrated that there's zero difference between the establishments of either party and he's a threat to the political oligarchy's misdeeds of the last 30 years being aired out.

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This is nihilism.

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That's not what nihilism means. Glad you're learning new vocabulary tho!

quash said:

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Trump's presidency matters because it exposed how weak-kneed Congress has been, and just how far an authoritarian in the WH can go. And how partisan values mean so much less than party.

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How is Trump authoritarian? How far has he gone that other presidents haven't?

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Sam Lowry said:

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quash said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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TexasScientist said:

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Truth be known, it's more likelyTrump's actions in Syria are a convenient attempt to divert attention away from Ukraine and his impeachment woes.

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Dems have always seen to it that Trump had impeachment woes. He'll never take any action if he waits for that to change.

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Trump's impeachment woes are a function of his actions.

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True...specifically the act of getting himself elected president in 2016.

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No, there will be a list of post election charges. Really

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Spoken like the Democrat you are at heart.

YoakDaddy said:

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BrooksBearLives said:

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YoakDaddy said:

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quash said:

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Trump's presidency matters because it exposed how weak-kneed Congress has been, and just how far an authoritarian in the WH can go. And how partisan values mean so much less than party.

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I'd go as far to say that Trump's presidency matters because it's demonstrated that there's zero difference between the establishments of either party and he's a threat to the political oligarchy's misdeeds of the last 30 years being aired out.

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This is nihilism.

Also:

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That's not what nihilism means. Glad you're learning new vocabulary tho!

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Nope.

"Nihilism is the belief that all values are baseless and that nothing can be known or communicated. It is often associated with extreme pessimism and a radical skepticism that condemns existence. A true nihilist would believe in nothing, have no loyalties, and no purpose other than, perhaps, an impulse to destroy"

Your insistence that we don't need to hold trump accountable because all politicians are bad so nothing matters is nihilism.

Read a ****ing book.

This Time the Yanks Are Deadly Serious
By Patrick Buchanan October 15, 2019, 12:01 AM

President Donald Trump could have been more deft and diplomatic in how he engineered that immediate pullout from northeastern Syria.

Yet that withdrawal was as inevitable as were its consequences.

And whenever the Americans did leave, the Kurds, facing a far more powerful Turkey, were going to have to negotiate the best deal they could with Syria's Bashar Assad.

It was Russia that stepped in to broker the deal whereby the Kurds stood down and let the Syrian army take over their positions and defend Syria's border regions against the Turks.

Today, the Middle East and world have been awakened to the reality that when Trump said he was ending everlasting commitments and bringing U.S. troops home from "endless wars," he was not bluffing.

The Saudis got the message when the U.S., in response to a missile and drone strike from Iran or Iranian-backed militias, which shut down half of Riyadh's oil production, did nothing.

Said Washington, this is between Saudi Arabia and Iran.

Thus, the Saudis have begun negotiating with the Houthi rebels, with whom they have been at war in Yemen since 2015. And they are seeking talks with Iran. A diplomatic resolution of quarrels seems to have come to commend itself to Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman, once he learned that the Americans do not regard Saudis as we do NATO allies.

Where the Americans spent much of the Cold War ruminating about an "agonizing reappraisal" of commitments to malingering allies, this time the Yanks may be deadly serious.

This time, the Americans may really be going home.

https://www.theamericanconservative.com/buchanan/this-time-the-yanks-are-deadly-serious/

BrooksBearLives said:

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YoakDaddy said:

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BrooksBearLives said:

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YoakDaddy said:

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quash said:

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Trump's presidency matters because it exposed how weak-kneed Congress has been, and just how far an authoritarian in the WH can go. And how partisan values mean so much less than party.

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I'd go as far to say that Trump's presidency matters because it's demonstrated that there's zero difference between the establishments of either party and he's a threat to the political oligarchy's misdeeds of the last 30 years being aired out.

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This is nihilism.

Also:

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That's not what nihilism means. Glad you're learning new vocabulary tho!

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Nope.

"Nihilism is the belief that all values are baseless and that nothing can be known or communicated. It is often associated with extreme pessimism and a radical skepticism that condemns existence. A true nihilist would believe in nothing, have no loyalties, and no purpose other than, perhaps, an impulse to destroy"

Your insistence that we don't need to hold trump accountable because all politicians are bad so nothing matters is nihilism.

Read a ****ing book.

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To say that something "matters" like I just did about his presidency is the opposite of nihilism. Read a fulking dictionary. I didn't insist not holding him accountable. Those are your words; not mine. You merely disagreed with the rest of my comment there's zero difference between the establishments of either party because he's a threat to the political oligarchy.

YoakDaddy said:

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BrooksBearLives said:

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YoakDaddy said:

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BrooksBearLives said:

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YoakDaddy said:

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quash said:

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Trump's presidency matters because it exposed how weak-kneed Congress has been, and just how far an authoritarian in the WH can go. And how partisan values mean so much less than party.

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I'd go as far to say that Trump's presidency matters because it's demonstrated that there's zero difference between the establishments of either party and he's a threat to the political oligarchy's misdeeds of the last 30 years being aired out.

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This is nihilism.

Also:

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That's not what nihilism means. Glad you're learning new vocabulary tho!

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Nope.

"Nihilism is the belief that all values are baseless and that nothing can be known or communicated. It is often associated with extreme pessimism and a radical skepticism that condemns existence. A true nihilist would believe in nothing, have no loyalties, and no purpose other than, perhaps, an impulse to destroy"

Your insistence that we don't need to hold trump accountable because all politicians are bad so nothing matters is nihilism.

Read a ****ing book.

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To say that something "matters" like I just did about his presidency is the opposite of nihilism. Read a fulking dictionary. I didn't insist not holding him accountable. Those are your words; not mine. You merely disagreed with the rest of my comment there's zero difference between the establishments of either party because he's a threat to the political oligarchy.

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Oh my God. You are constantly wrong. Just... all the time.

You're arguing about my characterization on this thread (and still wrong) because you can't defend your president or choices.

So typical.

You voted for our worst person. He's not a competent human being. And you'd rather argue (wrongly) semantics than engage.

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YoakDaddy said:

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BrooksBearLives said:

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YoakDaddy said:

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BrooksBearLives said:

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YoakDaddy said:

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quash said:

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Trump's presidency matters because it exposed how weak-kneed Congress has been, and just how far an authoritarian in the WH can go. And how partisan values mean so much less than party.

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I'd go as far to say that Trump's presidency matters because it's demonstrated that there's zero difference between the establishments of either party and he's a threat to the political oligarchy's misdeeds of the last 30 years being aired out.

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This is nihilism.

Also:

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That's not what nihilism means. Glad you're learning new vocabulary tho!

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Nope.

"Nihilism is the belief that all values are baseless and that nothing can be known or communicated. It is often associated with extreme pessimism and a radical skepticism that condemns existence. A true nihilist would believe in nothing, have no loyalties, and no purpose other than, perhaps, an impulse to destroy"

Your insistence that we don't need to hold trump accountable because all politicians are bad so nothing matters is nihilism.

Read a ****ing book.

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To say that something "matters" like I just did about his presidency is the opposite of nihilism. Read a fulking dictionary. I didn't insist not holding him accountable. Those are your words; not mine. You merely disagreed with the rest of my comment there's zero difference between the establishments of either party because he's a threat to the political oligarchy.

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Oh my God. You are constantly wrong. Just... all the time.

You're arguing about my characterization on this thread (and still wrong) because you can't defend your president or choices.

So typical.

You voted for our worst person. He's not a competent human being. And you'd rather argue (wrongly) semantics than engage.

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Your post was nothing but spittle and rant, BBL.

Maybe you should take a step back and let your inner adult come up with your next answer?