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In her latest manifesto, Linda Livingstone basically proposed such action. Baylor will sell its soul to be politically correct.

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Educating people about Racism is selling its soul? :/

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When the class berates you for being white, yes.

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right and these classes have said they will berate you for being White?

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A class that discusses white privilege is extremely offensive to white people who don't buy into that narrative.

Assuming students will be racist or have racial issues without this mandatory course is offensive.

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It takes a special kind of Snowflake to be "Offended" about Racial equality classes in the backdrop of current events

White Privilege is a fact, there are plenty of stats to back it up (Unemployment, Earnings, Crime etc.), it does not mean that being White is a crime, its aim is not to punish you for being White, it is not berating you for being White, its merely a reflection on the fact that the average White Person has a better lot in life than a Person of Colour

These classes do not assume you will be racist if you dont attend, I attended Health and Safety courses in a previous job, I didnt get offended that my employers thought i was a clumsy idiot who would hurt myself without them, but then again, I'm not a Snowflake.

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You're assuming that's what these classes will achieve and then declaring me sinister for not agreeing with it.

See, this is the kind of behavior I'm talking about. We're not in agreement of what this class will actually accomplish and teach.

I believe teaching kids about the concept of white privilege (which is what the description says) is not appropriate. I believe it's a 'class guilt' concept and will only further divide us.

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I assume its what they aim to achieve, whether or not thats what they will actually achieve is another thing

White Privilege is nort about imposing guilt on someone, its about seeing an unfair imbalance in the world, acknowledging it and working to make it better, not in way that punishes you for being White (because "Positive" Discrimination is still discrimination), but in a way that doesnt punish someone for not being White.

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I assume its what they aim to achieve, whether or not thats what they will actually achieve is another thing

White Privilege is nort about imposing guilt on someone, its about seeing an unfair imbalance in the world, acknowledging it and working to make it better, not in way that punishes you for being White (because "Positive" Discrimination is still discrimination), but in a way that doesnt punish someone for not being White.

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I believe it will further divide us and make things worse.

We disagree,

Don't give me an emotional argument, give me your reasoning why my view is incorrect and why your's is right.

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My Reasoning is simple, I will offer you statistics (from the UK) that show what i am saying is correct:

Employment

• unemployment rates were significantly higher for ethnic minorities at 12.9 per cent compared with 6.3 per cent for White people
• Black workers with degrees earn 23.1 per cent less on average than White workers
• in Britain, significantly lower percentages of ethnic minorities (8.8 per cent) worked as managers, directors and senior officials, compared with White people (10.7 per cent) and this was particularly true for African or Caribbean or Black people (5.7 per cent) and those of mixed ethnicity (7.2 per cent)
• Black people who leave school with A-levels typically get paid 14.3 per cent less than their White peers

Education

• just 6 per cent of Black school leavers attended a Russell Group university, compared with 12 per cent of mixed and Asian school leavers and 11 per cent of White school leavers
• Black Caribbean and Mixed White/Black Caribbean children have rates of permanent exclusion about three times that of the pupil population as a whole

Crime

• rates of prosecution and sentencing for Black people were three times higher than for White people,18 per thousand population compared with six per thousand population for White people
• for sentencing it was 13 per thousand population for Black people and five per thousand population for White people
• in England and Wales ethnic minority children and adults are more likely to be a victim of homicide
• the homicide rate for Black people was 30.5 per million population, 14.1 for Asian people and 8.9 for White people
• White women are more at risk of domestic abuse than ethnic minority women, with 7.4 per cent reported being victims of abuse compared with 4.4 per cent of ethnic minority women
• race hate crimes on Britain's railway networks have risen by 37 per cent
• in England, 37.4 per cent of Black people and 44.8 per cent of Asian people felt unsafe being at home or around their local area, compared with 29.2 per cent of White people

Living standards

• Pakistani or Bangladeshi and Black adults are more likely to live in substandard accommodation than White people
• 30.9 per cent of Pakistani or Bangladeshi people live in overcrowded accommodation, while for Black people the figure is 26.8 per cent and for White people it is 8.3 per cent
• if you are an ethnic minority person, you are still more likely to live in poverty. Our evidence shows that 35.7 per cent of ethnic minorities were more likely to live in poverty compared with 17.2 per cent of White people
• in Scotland, ethnic minority households are more likely to experience overcrowding, with 11.8 per cent for ethnic minority households compared with 2.9 per cent for White households

Health and care

• Black African women had a mortality rate four times higher than White women in the UK
• there is a significant disproportionate number of ethnic minorities detained under mental health legislation in hospitals in England and Wales
• Black African women were seven times more likely to be detained than White British women

Russel Group Universities are a collection of 24 of the elite universities in England and include Oxford and Cambridge), A-Levels are higher education levels which you study for between the ages of 16-18, before you go to University, they are voluntary.

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Racial disparity is not evidence of racism (a counter race causing the problem with INTENT).

You have to tie it to how it stems from the behavior of white people.

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Why? Food culture? DNA (which plays a major role in health)?

You could make the argument that white people face a lower mortality rate, but the only place to go from there is equalizing outcomes or special treatment which is unconstitutional and does nothing but make the situation worse.

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I attended Health and Safety courses in a previous job, I didnt get offended that my employers thought i was a clumsy idiot who would hurt myself without them, but then again, I'm not a Snowflake.

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Did your previous employer let you go because you were a clumsy idiot or you weren't a snowflake ?

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neither, i resigned for a better job, sorry to ruin your zinger

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Whatever you say.

However based on the content of your posts, suspect your previous employer cut his losses .

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I attended Health and Safety courses in a previous job, I didnt get offended that my employers thought i was a clumsy idiot who would hurt myself without them, but then again, I'm not a Snowflake.

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Did your previous employer let you go because you were a clumsy idiot or you weren't a snowflake ?

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neither, i resigned for a better job, sorry to ruin your zinger

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Whatever you say.

However based on the content of your posts, suspect your previous employer cut his losses .

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Fortunately, my employers, past and present, arent judgemental *******s like you

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England is a different country. Does England have a Constitution with a 14th Amendment like the USA? or do they have a Civil Rights Act of 1964?

Perhaps the University should teach U.S. History instead of creating classes that are based on pure opinion.

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