Today's Trump voters are the George Wallace voters of 1968

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1:20p, 7/6/20
All these trumpist defenders and not one has addressed the substance of the issue, quite typical when facts are not on your side. They can't be bothered to look up the history of George Wallace, a person who personified the realignment of racist southern conservatives away from the Democrat party in the election of 1968.

The Boomer trumpists were the ones who literally voted for Wallace!
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In reply to RD2WINAGNBEAR86 • 1:21p, 7/6/20
RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:
Jinx 2 said:
In many ways, Trump voters are George Wallace voters from 1968.

Like Wallace, Trump campaigns on white fear and grievance over perceived threats to their traditional power.

Trump's base is bigger than Wallace's because (a) now there's Fox News and a proliferation of other rightwing outrage media to gin up the anger; and (b) union membership has declined, pulling more working class voters away from the Democratic Party and toward a populist like Trump who uses the real decline in their standard of living (the fruit of trickle-down economics) to con them into supporting even more trickle-down economics.

But 90% of the electorate was white in 1968 versus 68% now.
How can you in good conscience post such trash? I have come to expect better from you.

Not sure there is anyone here that would not agree that George Wallace was a racist.
What in the world about Jinx's consistently falsely premised 100% B.S. posts have ever caused you to "expect better" from her, him or it?? This baseless lie of a post you are responding to is par for course when you consider the source.
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All these trumpist defenders and not one has addressed the substance of the issue, quite typical when facts are not on your side. They can't be bothered to look up the history of George Wallace, a person who personified the realignment of racist southern conservatives away from the Democrat party in the election of 1968.

The Boomer trumpists were the ones who literally voted for Wallace!
Yes I did - gave several factual statements earlier - why did you ignore that? Quit pushing liberal lies - that's literally the only thing you all have right now and it's literally a LIE.

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In reply to riflebear • 1:31p, 7/6/20
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All these trumpist defenders and not one has addressed the substance of the issue, quite typical when facts are not on your side. They can't be bothered to look up the history of George Wallace, a person who personified the realignment of racist southern conservatives away from the Democrat party in the election of 1968.

The Boomer trumpists were the ones who literally voted for Wallace!
Yes I did - gave several factual statements earlier - why did you ignore that? Quit pushing liberal lies - that's literally the only thing you all have right now and it's literally a LIE.



You've made no effort to understand who George Wallace was and what motivated his constituents, but maybe if you type more words in caps lock it will really show your intellectual prowess.
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In reply to Username checks out • 1:33p, 7/6/20
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All these trumpist defenders and not one has addressed the substance of the issue, quite typical when facts are not on your side. They can't be bothered to look up the history of George Wallace, a person who personified the realignment of racist southern conservatives away from the Democrat party in the election of 1968.

The Boomer trumpists were the ones who literally voted for Wallace!
It's really easy to kick Jinx and, as one poster has done, claim this post means I hate men. (Normally I'd say that one came out of left field, but in this case, right field?)

I've been married to one for almost 39 years and have lots of wonderful men friends, colleagues and family members.

I discuss politics with many of them. In fact, one old Baylor friends launched this thread by daring me to post it after a discussion we had this weekend about the similarities between the campaign Trump is running and Wallace's awful presidential campaign, on this site and see how many hits it would get how fast.

In my family, that's known as "whanging the hive."

The hornets are now angrily buzzing, looking for someone to sting.

As for really thinking about Trump and his policies and where he's leading the country, well, these guys just aren't capable of it. They're too busy touting the benefits of hydroxychloroquine, cuz Trump.
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In reply to Username checks out • 1:46p, 7/6/20
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riflebear said:
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All these trumpist defenders and not one has addressed the substance of the issue, quite typical when facts are not on your side. They can't be bothered to look up the history of George Wallace, a person who personified the realignment of racist southern conservatives away from the Democrat party in the election of 1968.

The Boomer trumpists were the ones who literally voted for Wallace!
Yes I did - gave several factual statements earlier - why did you ignore that? Quit pushing liberal lies - that's literally the only thing you all have right now and it's literally a LIE.



You've made no effort to understand who George Wallace was and what motivated his constituents, but maybe if you type more words in caps lock it will really show your intellectual prowess.
No effort? Why would I do that? I know who he is and I know it's a ridiculous accusation and race baiting as usual from racist Jinx. We're all just laughing. As far as 'lies'. Show me a President who hasn't lied or misled? They are politicians, that's what they do but I noticed NONE of you have ever called out the Russian conspiracy theory lies the last 3 years from Dems & the media like Schiff Pelosi Schumer Biden etc. In fact, you all still double down thinking it happened. Same goes w/ racism.

It gets old. Don't post stupid things and you won't get these responses. It's not a 'hive' it's normal Americans who hate being called racist for supporting a President who is NOT racist.
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In reply to GoneGirl • 2:36p, 7/6/20
Jinx 2 said:
They're too busy touting the benefits of hydroxychloroquine, cuz Trump.
Or maybe because->

https://www.henryford.com/news/2020/07/hydro-treatment-study
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In reply to riflebear • 2:40p, 7/6/20
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She channeled her some Blake

"...In every cry of every Man,
In every Infants cry of fear,
In every voice: in every ban,
The mind-forg'd manacles I hear...."


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In reply to Username checks out • 11:30p, 7/6/20
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riflebear said:
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All these trumpist defenders and not one has addressed the substance of the issue, quite typical when facts are not on your side. They can't be bothered to look up the history of George Wallace, a person who personified the realignment of racist southern conservatives away from the Democrat party in the election of 1968.

The Boomer trumpists were the ones who literally voted for Wallace!
Yes I did - gave several factual statements earlier - why did you ignore that? Quit pushing liberal lies - that's literally the only thing you all have right now and it's literally a LIE.



You've made no effort to understand who George Wallace was and what motivated his constituents, but maybe if you type more words in caps lock it will really show your intellectual prowess.


Have you?

He was a racist DEMOCRAT. And not much has changed. Your party to this day runs on racial division and ONLY sees color.
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11:45p, 7/6/20
I remember George Wallace .

He was a staunch Democrat and fervent segregationist .

After being paralyzed from an assassin's bullet and in constant pain ....Wallace recanted his previous segregationist positions and won another term as governor of Alabama .

Due in large measure to the strong support of thousands of black voters .
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In reply to BUbearinARK • 7:08a, 7/7/20
BUbearinARK said:
Jinx 2 said:
They're too busy touting the benefits of hydroxychloroquine, cuz Trump.
Or maybe because->

https://www.henryford.com/news/2020/07/hydro-treatment-study
https://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/local/michigan/2020/07/02/michigan-henry-ford-health-study-finds-hydroxychloroquine-lowers-covid-19-death-rate/5365090002/

"Zervos cautioned against extrapolating the results for treatment outside hospital settings and without further study. "
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In reply to GoneGirl • 8:48a, 7/7/20
Jinx 2 said:
In many ways, Trump voters are George Wallace voters from 1968.

Like Wallace, Trump campaigns on white fear and grievance over perceived threats to their traditional power.

Trump's base is bigger than Wallace's because (a) now there's Fox News and a proliferation of other rightwing outrage media to gin up the anger; and (b) union membership has declined, pulling more working class voters away from the Democratic Party and toward a populist like Trump who uses the real decline in their standard of living (the fruit of trickle-down economics) to con them into supporting even more trickle-down economics.

But 90% of the electorate was white in 1968 versus 68% now.
Wallace's signature issue was segregation, while Trump's is immigration. Both are related to white economic anxiety, but there are important differences. There was a growing consensus in the sixties that segregation was morally wrong and illegitimate. Today, regardless of politics, almost everyone still agrees that controlling the border is a legitimate role of government. Of course this includes racists, but racism is largely incidental to the reasons for the policy. So I think it's oversimplifying to equate Wallace voters with Trump voters.
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9:09a, 7/7/20
It isn't wrong at all. Trump uses the actual same rhetoric about civil rights marchers Wallace did. He literally waves the Confedrate Flag and tweets white power. He singles out specific African Americans and attacks them and tries to get other whites to attack them and their race in general as a whole such as yesterday the NASCAR driver. Trump literally uses almost the entire playbook of the likes of Wallace, Ross Barnett, Orville Faubus etc.

Trump and his administration is actually a Dixiecrat administration.
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In reply to PartyBear • 9:18a, 7/7/20
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It isn't wrong at all. Trump uses the actual same rhetoric about civil rights marchers Wallace did. He literally waves the Confedrate Flag and tweets white power. He singles out specific African Americans and attacks them and tries to get other whites to attack them and their race in general as a whole such as yesterday the NASCAR driver. Trump literally uses almost the entire playbook of the likes of Wallace, Ross Barnett, Orville Faubus etc.

Trump and his administration is actually a Dixiecrat administration.
yeah yeah yeah... Trump is a racist. His voters a racists, blah blah blah. Trump doesn't care about black people and therefore would never forgive HBCU loans, secure financing for HBCUs, sign legislation into law that benefits imprisoned African Americans, upgrade MLK birthplace to national park and expand boundaries, oversee lowest unemployment and record wages for blacks, et......

Time to replace the broken record. Maybe find a new safe space?
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In reply to Whiskey Pete • 10:02a, 7/7/20
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PartyBear said:
It isn't wrong at all. Trump uses the actual same rhetoric about civil rights marchers Wallace did. He literally waves the Confedrate Flag and tweets white power. He singles out specific African Americans and attacks them and tries to get other whites to attack them and their race in general as a whole such as yesterday the NASCAR driver. Trump literally uses almost the entire playbook of the likes of Wallace, Ross Barnett, Orville Faubus etc.

Trump and his administration is actually a Dixiecrat administration.
yeah yeah yeah... Trump is a racist. His voters a racists, blah blah blah. Trump doesn't care about black people and therefore would never forgive HBCU loans, secure financing for HBCUs, sign legislation into law that benefits imprisoned African Americans, upgrade MLK birthplace to national park and expand boundaries, oversee lowest unemployment and record wages for blacks, et......

Time to replace the broken record. Maybe find a new safe space?
Despite all the executive orders Trump has signed that were obviously beneficial toward the black community its amazing to watch how a coordinated propaganda campaign can produce the narrative that he is ...somehow...... racist.

Of course its easier when 70% of a population doesn't have the slightest understanding of how their government works .
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11:51a, 7/7/20
We've lost all perspective of race and racism. The fact we try to draw weird parallels like this OP is why we over react to things like Wallace and Smollet. Our standard of offense is so minimal that everything is some "dog whistle" or "gas light", when it's really the emotionalism and grievance mentality that so permeate our culture. We can't even address real problems due to the inane tangents that get thrown into the process of resolution.
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In reply to ATL Bear • 12:03p, 7/7/20
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We've lost all perspective of race and racism. The fact we try to draw weird parallels like this OP is why we over react to things like Wallace and Smollet. Our standard of offense is so minimal that everything is some "dog whistle" or "gas light", when it's really the emotionalism and grievance mentality that so permeate our culture. We can't even address real problems due to the inane tangents that get thrown into the process of resolution.
IMO 50 % of the problem is 24 hour news channels desperately attempting to fill their time slots and keep their audience .
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In reply to riflebear • 12:30p, 7/7/20
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riflebear said:
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All these trumpist defenders and not one has addressed the substance of the issue, quite typical when facts are not on your side. They can't be bothered to look up the history of George Wallace, a person who personified the realignment of racist southern conservatives away from the Democrat party in the election of 1968.

The Boomer trumpists were the ones who literally voted for Wallace!
Yes I did - gave several factual statements earlier - why did you ignore that? Quit pushing liberal lies - that's literally the only thing you all have right now and it's literally a LIE.



You've made no effort to understand who George Wallace was and what motivated his constituents, but maybe if you type more words in caps lock it will really show your intellectual prowess.


Have you?

He was a racist DEMOCRAT. And not much has changed. Your party to this day runs on racial division and ONLY sees color.


1968 is widely recognized as a realigning election whereby the electorates of both parties shifted drastically; southern conservatives moved away from the Democrat party. Northern liberals continued their drift towards the Democrat party. In those times, there were liberals and conservatives still in both parties. Since, we have have had much more alignment with conservative = Republican and liberal = Democrat.
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In reply to Username checks out • 12:58p, 7/7/20
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riflebear said:
Username checks out said:
riflebear said:
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All these trumpist defenders and not one has addressed the substance of the issue, quite typical when facts are not on your side. They can't be bothered to look up the history of George Wallace, a person who personified the realignment of racist southern conservatives away from the Democrat party in the election of 1968.

The Boomer trumpists were the ones who literally voted for Wallace!
Yes I did - gave several factual statements earlier - why did you ignore that? Quit pushing liberal lies - that's literally the only thing you all have right now and it's literally a LIE.



You've made no effort to understand who George Wallace was and what motivated his constituents, but maybe if you type more words in caps lock it will really show your intellectual prowess.


Have you?

He was a racist DEMOCRAT. And not much has changed. Your party to this day runs on racial division and ONLY sees color.


1968 is widely recognized as a realigning election whereby the electorates of both parties shifted drastically; southern conservatives moved away from the Democrat party. Northern liberals continued their drift towards the Democrat party. In those times, there were liberals and conservatives still in both parties. Since, we have have had much more alignment with conservative = Republican and liberal = Democrat.
'widely'? Might want to do your homework
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In reply to Username checks out • 1:10p, 7/7/20
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riflebear said:
Username checks out said:
riflebear said:
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All these trumpist defenders and not one has addressed the substance of the issue, quite typical when facts are not on your side. They can't be bothered to look up the history of George Wallace, a person who personified the realignment of racist southern conservatives away from the Democrat party in the election of 1968.

The Boomer trumpists were the ones who literally voted for Wallace!
Yes I did - gave several factual statements earlier - why did you ignore that? Quit pushing liberal lies - that's literally the only thing you all have right now and it's literally a LIE.



You've made no effort to understand who George Wallace was and what motivated his constituents, but maybe if you type more words in caps lock it will really show your intellectual prowess.


Have you?

He was a racist DEMOCRAT. And not much has changed. Your party to this day runs on racial division and ONLY sees color.


1968 is widely recognized as a realigning election whereby the electorates of both parties shifted drastically; southern conservatives moved away from the Democrat party. Northern liberals continued their drift towards the Democrat party. In those times, there were liberals and conservatives still in both parties. Since, we have have had much more alignment with conservative = Republican and liberal = Democrat.
Last time I checked it wasn't the Republican party promising black people unicorns and rainbows while doing nothing to get them out of the ghettos.

For decades, the democrats have used and lied to the black community to trick them into giving the dems their vote.

The democrats have tossed the black American aside in favor of trying to get illegals into this country and get their vote (illegal or not).

A couple of decades ago, the dems tossed aside the blue collar worker and they paid for it in 2016. Same thing will happen with African Americans, it may take longer, but it will happen. This is why the dems are panicking over the black vote, today.

Romney had 4% of the black vote, Trump had 8% of the black and the dems are terrified that Trump can increase that to 16% or more.
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In reply to Canada2017 • 1:54p, 7/7/20
Canada2017 said:
I remember George Wallace .

He was a staunch Democrat and fervent segregationist .

After being paralyzed from an assassin's bullet and in constant pain ....Wallace recanted his previous segregationist positions and won another term as governor of Alabama .

Due in large measure to the strong support of thousands of black voters .
Not only has Trump not renounced his racist past, he has doubled down on his racism in the present moment because he believes his base understands, relates to and approves of it. There is nothing to indicate that he is in any way wrong in his belief.
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In reply to cinque • 1:57p, 7/7/20
cinque said:
Canada2017 said:
I remember George Wallace .

He was a staunch Democrat and fervent segregationist .

After being paralyzed from an assassin's bullet and in constant pain ....Wallace recanted his previous segregationist positions and won another term as governor of Alabama .

Due in large measure to the strong support of thousands of black voters .
Not only has Trump not renounced his racist past, he has doubled down on his racism in the present moment because he believes his base understands, relates to and approves of it. There is nothing to indicate that he is in any way wrong in his belief.
OK - Congratulations. You're blocked again and the only person on this site I have ever blocked.
I'm all for debating liberals and having constructive conversations back and forth even if we disagree but these constant lies and conspiracy theories are just ridiculous to see on this reputable site.
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