Oldbear83 said:

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Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:

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Funny how we read different things from the same thread. In my mind JR said had listened to him before and complimented him on his ability to entertain. He pointed out some of the things Rush had said in the past that were pretty offense.

You denied Rushs treatment of dying Aids victims even when confronted with numerous sources.

Its no big deal. I would say he was an important Republican cheerleader but i dont think of him as a patriot.

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I think the fact that people like JR went out of their way to attack and insult him just after his death is all we need to know on that point.

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Do you mean they were no better than him? His comedy schtick about gays waiting to die and dyeing was about the same as others calling out the low spots in Rush's long career.

"i dont think of him as a patriot."

Like him or not, he fits the definition:

"one who loves and supports his or her country"

Merriam-Webster

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/patriot

"a person who loves, supports, and defends his or her country and its interests with devotion.

a person who regards himself or herself as a defender, especially of individual rights, against presumed interference by the federal government."

Dictionary.com

https://www.dictionary.com/browse/patriot

Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:

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I would say he was an important Republican cheerleader but i dont think of him as a patriot.

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Suspect the millions of devoted Rush listeners considered him a patriot....although your description seems fair.

Regardless I'm not sure the term even survives another 2 years of cancel culture .

Sooner or later someone on social media will decide patriot equals 'white supremacy ' and becomes another employment ending social violation .

I listened to him for years and even read his first two books. He was entertaining but very divisive. He did not do what was best for America so he is not a patriot.

The cancel culture will eventually peter out. I hope..

Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:

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I listened to him for years and even read his first two books. He was entertaining but very decisive. He did not do what was best for America so he is not a patriot.

The cancel culture will eventually peter out. I hope..

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Rarely listened to Rush for more than 10 minutes at a time ( found his tone annoying ), so I can't claim to be an expert on the fellow .

However there are many interpretations of what is 'best' for America.....and to many people Rush's broadcasts fit their particular requirements.

Good point. If either side was always correct I think one would rise above and straighten out America. Neither side has proven to be competent so I dont see how a patriot could always side with one or the other. But its just my opinion. One mans patriot is another mans party shill.

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Good point. If either side was always correct I think one would rise above and straighten out America. Neither side has proven to be competent so I dont see how a patriot could always side with one or the other. But its just my opinion. One mans patriot is another mans party shill.

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And sometimes there can be patriots on both sides, who simply disagree on non-essential details.

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In 2008 Forbes named Rush one of the nations top philanthropic celebrity givers saying, "Conservative talk show host Rush Limbaugh ranked fourth on the Most Generous Celebrities List by donating $4.2 million, or approximately 13% of the $33 million he earned last year, to the Marine Corps-Law Enforcement Foundation, a charity that helps support the children of Marines or federal law enforcement officers who died in the line of duty."

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Had no idea Rush had done such a thing .

Plus the 100k to St Jude's.

Very impressive.

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Oldbear83 said:

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Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:

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Funny how we read different things from the same thread. In my mind JR said had listened to him before and complimented him on his ability to entertain. He pointed out some of the things Rush had said in the past that were pretty offense.

You denied Rushs treatment of dying Aids victims even when confronted with numerous sources.

Its no big deal. I would say he was an important Republican cheerleader but i dont think of him as a patriot.

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I think the fact that people like JR went out of their way to attack and insult him just after his death is all we need to know on that point.

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Do you mean they were no better than him? His comedy schtick about gays waiting to die and dyeing was about the same as others calling out the low spots in Rush's long career.

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First, there is zero evidence Rush ever made fun of gays dying. So no proof means BS

And the point still stands. You have to be a sorry POS to immediately react to someone's death with insults and attacks.

Thats on you. Completely.

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/rush-limbaugh-mock-aids-gays/

Oldbear83 said:

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Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:

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Funny how we read different things from the same thread. In my mind JR said had listened to him before and complimented him on his ability to entertain. He pointed out some of the things Rush had said in the past that were pretty offense.

You denied Rushs treatment of dying Aids victims even when confronted with numerous sources.

Its no big deal. I would say he was an important Republican cheerleader but i dont think of him as a patriot.

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I think the fact that people like JR went out of their way to attack and insult him just after his death is all we need to know on that point.

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Do you mean they were no better than him? His comedy schtick about gays waiting to die and dyeing was about the same as others calling out the low spots in Rush's long career.

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First, there is zero evidence Rush ever made fun of gays dying. So no proof means BS

And the point still stands. You have to be a sorry POS to immediately react to someone's death with insults and attacks.

Thats on you. Completely.

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The claim actually wound up being pretty well documented on this thread. I think it's bad form to hammer someone's legacy immediately after their death and have stuck to that here. But if you'd like others to observe a cease-fire, then I will suggest to you that it doesn't help to promote a statement that has been demonstrated to be false; it just means that people will keep responding to point out the falsity, and winds up escalating the rhetoric.

"The claim actually wound up being pretty well documented on this thread."

No, that is not true. Repeated by Rush haters who desperately want to believe it would be an accurate statement.

Oldbear83 said:

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"The claim actually wound up being pretty well documented on this thread."

No, that is not true. Repeated by Rush haters who desperately want to believe it would be an accurate statement.

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Never heard Snopes.com labeled as a Rush hater before.

If you dont accept tstimony from several reputable website that it happened and Rush eventually apologized for it what would you need besides a time machine?

Besides, I didnt bash RL, I said i used to enjoy listening to him and read his first two books.

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Oldbear83 said:

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"The claim actually wound up being pretty well documented on this thread."

No, that is not true. Repeated by Rush haters who desperately want to believe it would be an accurate statement.

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Never heard Snopes.com labeled as a Rush hater before.

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Snopes.com is certainly not objective, despite their claims, when dealing with political figures.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/kalevleetaru/2016/12/22/the-daily-mail-snopes-story-and-fact-checking-the-fact-checkers/?sh=d1cd769227f8

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2019/03/10/sharyl_attkisson_who_decides_what_news_is_fake_news.html#!


I am not saying Rush Limbaugh was some kind of saint. But I do believe any person should be judged on a body of work basis, rather than look for something which can be used to smear that person.

As a counter example, you have probably heard various claims that Michelle Obama was a lesbian or otherwise did not really love her husband, and obviously those claims cane from people hoping to smear the Obama image. The 'evidence' presented to support such claims was garbage of course, but that did not stop the haters from claiming they 'proved' their claims. That is, people with strong hate will see what they want, regardless of the truth.

In Rush's case, he was successful with his audience in the 1990s by use of parodies mocking Leftist positions, especially the way Leftists demanded total agreement with their narratives. In the matter of AIDs, a distinction should be made between real life patients and political groups using the crisis for influence and political advantage.

Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:

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https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/rush-limbaugh-mock-aids-gays/

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Did you read what you posted and what evidence was used to make the claims? I mean what we could say about gays and homosexuals 30+ years ago is enormously different. He's being judged through today's prism of excess sensitivity on this one. I imagine if Eddie Murphy's Raw was evaluated today he'd be cancelled in a second.

Odd is the admission there is no audio of the segments, only several news articles referencing the AIDS Update content. I'm sure it's enormously politically incorrect by today's standards. But then we're cancelling historical figures and people for past thoughts and deeds through the "comply with today" standards all over this nation.

I don't know if Rush is necessarily a patriot, but he's certainly a pioneer and thought leader. That deserves some reverence and appreciation whether one agrees or disagrees with him.

I did read the link I posted. I was trying to prove the validity of RL mocking the death of gays due to Aids without going having to get out my time machine. It didnt work.

I never hated Rush. I used to be a big fan of his and Hannity and Glenn Beck G Gordon Libby. I got tired of them and maybe I changed a little bit as i got older,

I pretty much agree with everything you say. I understand you point about judging people using different time lenses and have argued it about Civil War figures.

bubbadog said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:

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Funny how we read different things from the same thread. In my mind JR said had listened to him before and complimented him on his ability to entertain. He pointed out some of the things Rush had said in the past that were pretty offense.

You denied Rushs treatment of dying Aids victims even when confronted with numerous sources.

Its no big deal. I would say he was an important Republican cheerleader but i dont think of him as a patriot.

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I think the fact that people like JR went out of their way to attack and insult him just after his death is all we need to know on that point.

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Do you mean they were no better than him? His comedy schtick about gays waiting to die and dyeing was about the same as others calling out the low spots in Rush's long career.

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First, there is zero evidence Rush ever made fun of gays dying. So no proof means BS

And the point still stands. You have to be a sorry POS to immediately react to someone's death with insults and attacks.

Thats on you. Completely.

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The claim actually wound up being pretty well documented on this thread. I think it's bad form to hammer someone's legacy immediately after their death and have stuck to that here. But if you'd like others to observe a cease-fire, then I will suggest to you that it doesn't help to promote a statement that has been demonstrated to be false; it just means that people will keep responding to point out the falsity, and winds up escalating the rhetoric.

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It's surprising that Elton John would be friends with a gay basher much less perform at his wedding.

https://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/rush-limbaugh-unlikely-friendship-elton-john-wedding

Green&GoldStandard said:

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bubbadog said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:

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Funny how we read different things from the same thread. In my mind JR said had listened to him before and complimented him on his ability to entertain. He pointed out some of the things Rush had said in the past that were pretty offense.

You denied Rushs treatment of dying Aids victims even when confronted with numerous sources.

Its no big deal. I would say he was an important Republican cheerleader but i dont think of him as a patriot.

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I think the fact that people like JR went out of their way to attack and insult him just after his death is all we need to know on that point.

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Do you mean they were no better than him? His comedy schtick about gays waiting to die and dyeing was about the same as others calling out the low spots in Rush's long career.

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First, there is zero evidence Rush ever made fun of gays dying. So no proof means BS

And the point still stands. You have to be a sorry POS to immediately react to someone's death with insults and attacks.

Thats on you. Completely.

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The claim actually wound up being pretty well documented on this thread. I think it's bad form to hammer someone's legacy immediately after their death and have stuck to that here. But if you'd like others to observe a cease-fire, then I will suggest to you that it doesn't help to promote a statement that has been demonstrated to be false; it just means that people will keep responding to point out the falsity, and winds up escalating the rhetoric.

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It's surprising that Elton John would be friends with a documented gay basher much less perform at his wedding. Guess Elton hasn't read this thread.

https://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/rush-limbaugh-unlikely-friendship-elton-john-wedding

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Just sayin'.

Oldbear83 said:

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Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:

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Funny how we read different things from the same thread. In my mind JR said had listened to him before and complimented him on his ability to entertain. He pointed out some of the things Rush had said in the past that were pretty offense.

You denied Rushs treatment of dying Aids victims even when confronted with numerous sources.

Its no big deal. I would say he was an important Republican cheerleader but i dont think of him as a patriot.

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I think the fact that people like JR went out of their way to attack and insult him just after his death is all we need to know on that point.

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You asking posters to prove that Rush was hateful is the reason this thread turned into that. You don't have to challenge the validity of things you don't want to know about. Your selective reading is extra bad, if you're ignoring the very thing you asked for.

Fitting though. Rush would have wanted a thread like this. He loved being criticized, and relished the chance to talk trash to anyone who disagreed with him.

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Oldbear83 said:

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Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:

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Funny how we read different things from the same thread. In my mind JR said had listened to him before and complimented him on his ability to entertain. He pointed out some of the things Rush had said in the past that were pretty offense.

You denied Rushs treatment of dying Aids victims even when confronted with numerous sources.

Its no big deal. I would say he was an important Republican cheerleader but i dont think of him as a patriot.

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I think the fact that people like JR went out of their way to attack and insult him just after his death is all we need to know on that point.

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You asking posters to prove that Rush was hateful is the reason this thread turned into that. You don't have to challenge the validity of things you don't want to know about. Your selective reading is extra bad, if you're ignoring the very thing you asked for.

Fitting though. Rush would have wanted a thread like this. He loved being criticized, and relished the chance to talk trash to anyone who disagreed with him.

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You are not just a liar, Porteroso, you have demonstrated a malicious character which makes me feel you must be a truly hateful individual.