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Money465 said:
Grant Teaff is indeed a great speaker and a great man! However, this article was once again an inappropriate swipe by Waco's newspaper aimed at conservative values.
Not sure why you say that if you read the article and not just the headline. Rush comes across as very gracious and a decent guy.Money465 said:
Grant Teaff is indeed a great speaker and a great man! However, this article was once again an inappropriate swipe by Waco's newspaper aimed at conservative values.
cowach said:Money465 said:
Grant Teaff is indeed a great speaker and a great man! However, this article was once again an inappropriate swipe by Waco's newspaper aimed at conservative values.
My guess is he was idolizing Grant but it comes across as spitting on a dead man.
bubbadog said:Not sure why you say that if you read the article and not just the headline. Rush comes across as very gracious and a decent guy.Money465 said:
Grant Teaff is indeed a great speaker and a great man! However, this article was once again an inappropriate swipe by Waco's newspaper aimed at conservative values.
J.B.Katz said:
My recollection is that when Limbaugh was hired to do sports commentary by ESPN the other sports commentators wouldn't sit in the same room with him and that he got fired for some racist comment.
They'd cut to him off by himself for his comments. Limbaugh knew enough about sports but he sure didn't last long.
D. C. Bear said:J.B.Katz said:
My recollection is that when Limbaugh was hired to do sports commentary by ESPN the other sports commentators wouldn't sit in the same room with him and that he got fired for some racist comment.
They'd cut to him off by himself for his comments. Limbaugh knew enough about sports but he sure didn't last long.
If I recall, he said something like the media was anxious for a black quarterback to be successful. I think it was Donavan McNabb with the Eagles. Funny thing is that Limbaugh wasn't exactly wrong in his analysis.
I listened to sports on WBAP growing up and weather. I remember well in 1978 when Dallas was getting 7" of snow or so, and down in Chilton we got rain that might have had snow flurries mix in for a few minutes, I was hoping to be in Dallas.bubbadog said:
Thanks for posting. That's a really nice story.
And what Teaff said was true. For those of us who are a certain age, WBAP did play a part in our lives. I have fond memories of being able to listen to Texas Rangers games from 600 miles away. I remember Kern Tips and others on the old Humble Radio Network. Growing up in Waco, my dad used to listen to Fort Worth Cats baseball games on WBAP. So it was a great treat for both of us when the Cats re-formed as an independent minor-league team and restored their old stadium on its original site, and I was able to take him to a game. Didn't hurt that the team was then managed by Waco native Stan Hough (Pat Zachry's battery-mate at Richfield HS).
A story and headline about how someone else "blew him away" just seems inappropriate.D. C. Bear said:cowach said:Money465 said:
Grant Teaff is indeed a great speaker and a great man! However, this article was once again an inappropriate swipe by Waco's newspaper aimed at conservative values.
My guess is he was idolizing Grant but it comes across as spitting on a dead man.
I didn't get that sense at all.
The not-so-funny thing was that McNabb WAS successful, in spite of guys like Limbaugh who suggested he was overrated (and Limbaugh was not alone in that, so I'm not singling him out). McNabb took the Iggles to 4 straight NFC Championship games.D. C. Bear said:J.B.Katz said:
My recollection is that when Limbaugh was hired to do sports commentary by ESPN the other sports commentators wouldn't sit in the same room with him and that he got fired for some racist comment.
They'd cut to him off by himself for his comments. Limbaugh knew enough about sports but he sure didn't last long.
If I recall, he said something like the media was anxious for a black quarterback to be successful. I think it was Donavan McNabb with the Eagles. Funny thing is that Limbaugh wasn't exactly wrong in his analysis.
I agree that the headline was misleading.cowach said:A story and headline about how someone else "blew him away" just seems inappropriate.D. C. Bear said:cowach said:Money465 said:
Grant Teaff is indeed a great speaker and a great man! However, this article was once again an inappropriate swipe by Waco's newspaper aimed at conservative values.
My guess is he was idolizing Grant but it comes across as spitting on a dead man.
I didn't get that sense at all.
The "blew him away" was NOT the headline to the story. It was simply a quote from a man attending the banquet who was unprepared for what Teaff delivered. It was a compliment to Teaff by a someone sitting at the table next to Fletcher, not a slight or dig at Limbaugh.cowach said:A story and headline about how someone else "blew him away" just seems inappropriate.D. C. Bear said:cowach said:Money465 said:
Grant Teaff is indeed a great speaker and a great man! However, this article was once again an inappropriate swipe by Waco's newspaper aimed at conservative values.
My guess is he was idolizing Grant but it comes across as spitting on a dead man.
I didn't get that sense at all.
I agree and thank the op for posting it.Canada2017 said:
As much as I respect Coach Teaff......IMO the story illustrates how gracious Rush could be....on occasion .
D. C. Bear said:J.B.Katz said:
My recollection is that when Limbaugh was hired to do sports commentary by ESPN the other sports commentators wouldn't sit in the same room with him and that he got fired for some racist comment.
They'd cut to him off by himself for his comments. Limbaugh knew enough about sports but he sure didn't last long.
If I recall, he said something like the media was anxious for a black quarterback to be successful. I think it was Donavan McNabb with the Eagles. Funny thing is that Limbaugh wasn't exactly wrong in his analysis.
bear2be2 said:D. C. Bear said:J.B.Katz said:
My recollection is that when Limbaugh was hired to do sports commentary by ESPN the other sports commentators wouldn't sit in the same room with him and that he got fired for some racist comment.
They'd cut to him off by himself for his comments. Limbaugh knew enough about sports but he sure didn't last long.
If I recall, he said something like the media was anxious for a black quarterback to be successful. I think it was Donavan McNabb with the Eagles. Funny thing is that Limbaugh wasn't exactly wrong in his analysis.
That's not what he said. This is what he said:
"Sorry to say this, I don't think he's been that good from the get-go. I think what we've had here is a little social concern in the NFL. The media has been very desirous that a black quarterback do well. There is a little hope invested in McNabb, and he got a lot of credit for the performance of this team that he didn't deserve. The defense carried this team."
McNabb, 26 at the time, was already a three-time Pro Bowler at that point and was in the midst of a really good run in Philly with Andy Reid.
Limbaugh was absolutely wrong in his analysis, and it's highly, highly unlikely he would have had those same criticisms for a white quarterback with McNabb's credentials.
This was classic Rush Limbaugh shock jockery. He just found out the hard way that not all platforms afforded him the latitude to be a divisive ******* that his radio show did.
I find your heated defense of Limbaugh at every opportunity interesting.Johnny Bear said:bubbadog said:Not sure why you say that if you read the article and not just the headline. Rush comes across as very gracious and a decent guy.Money465 said:
Grant Teaff is indeed a great speaker and a great man! However, this article was once again an inappropriate swipe by Waco's newspaper aimed at conservative values.
Exactly as he always did. And that headline is obviously just an attention grabber as it has nothing to do with the story if you read the thing in it's entirely.
Then "the crowd" isn't really helping their clients by giving abusers excuses. Good grief.J.B.Katz said:I find your heated defense of Limbaugh at every opportunity interesting.Johnny Bear said:bubbadog said:Not sure why you say that if you read the article and not just the headline. Rush comes across as very gracious and a decent guy.Money465 said:
Grant Teaff is indeed a great speaker and a great man! However, this article was once again an inappropriate swipe by Waco's newspaper aimed at conservative values.
Exactly as he always did. And that headline is obviously just an attention grabber as it has nothing to do with the story if you read the thing in it's entirely.
Wife's a lawyer. She will never forget Limbaugh's saying women shouldn't serve on a jury if the accused was "a stud." Or him calling a married law student a **** for wanting her medical insurance plan to cover the pill.
Wife also volunteers with a nonprofit that helps women and children in domestic violence situations run by one of her friends. The crowd there thinks the stuff Limbaugh said about women emboldened abusers.
Not intended as an excuse.Malbec said:Then "the crowd" isn't really helping their clients by giving abusers excuses. Good grief.J.B.Katz said:I find your heated defense of Limbaugh at every opportunity interesting.Johnny Bear said:bubbadog said:Not sure why you say that if you read the article and not just the headline. Rush comes across as very gracious and a decent guy.Money465 said:
Grant Teaff is indeed a great speaker and a great man! However, this article was once again an inappropriate swipe by Waco's newspaper aimed at conservative values.
Exactly as he always did. And that headline is obviously just an attention grabber as it has nothing to do with the story if you read the thing in it's entirely.
Wife's a lawyer. She will never forget Limbaugh's saying women shouldn't serve on a jury if the accused was "a stud." Or him calling a married law student a **** for wanting her medical insurance plan to cover the pill.
Wife also volunteers with a nonprofit that helps women and children in domestic violence situations run by one of her friends. The crowd there thinks the stuff Limbaugh said about women emboldened abusers.
What would be the proper term for someone who wants another person to pay for their decision to have sex?J.B.Katz said:Johnny Bear said:bubbadog said:Not sure why you say that if you read the article and not just the headline. Rush comes across as very gracious and a decent guy.Money465 said:
Grant Teaff is indeed a great speaker and a great man! However, this article was once again an inappropriate swipe by Waco's newspaper aimed at conservative values.
Exactly as he always did. And that headline is obviously just an attention grabber as it has nothing to do with the story if you read the thing in it's entirely.
Wife's a lawyer. She will never forget Limbaugh's saying women shouldn't serve on a jury if the accused was "a stud." Or him calling a married law student a **** for wanting her medical insurance plan to cover the pill.
A female litigant seeking child support.Carlos Cruz said:What would be the proper term for someone who wants another person to pay for their decision to have sex?J.B.Katz said:Johnny Bear said:bubbadog said:Not sure why you say that if you read the article and not just the headline. Rush comes across as very gracious and a decent guy.Money465 said:
Grant Teaff is indeed a great speaker and a great man! However, this article was once again an inappropriate swipe by Waco's newspaper aimed at conservative values.
Exactly as he always did. And that headline is obviously just an attention grabber as it has nothing to do with the story if you read the thing in it's entirely.
Wife's a lawyer. She will never forget Limbaugh's saying women shouldn't serve on a jury if the accused was "a stud." Or him calling a married law student a **** for wanting her medical insurance plan to cover the pill.
D. C. Bear said:bear2be2 said:D. C. Bear said:J.B.Katz said:
My recollection is that when Limbaugh was hired to do sports commentary by ESPN the other sports commentators wouldn't sit in the same room with him and that he got fired for some racist comment.
They'd cut to him off by himself for his comments. Limbaugh knew enough about sports but he sure didn't last long.
If I recall, he said something like the media was anxious for a black quarterback to be successful. I think it was Donavan McNabb with the Eagles. Funny thing is that Limbaugh wasn't exactly wrong in his analysis.
That's not what he said. This is what he said:
"Sorry to say this, I don't think he's been that good from the get-go. I think what we've had here is a little social concern in the NFL. The media has been very desirous that a black quarterback do well. There is a little hope invested in McNabb, and he got a lot of credit for the performance of this team that he didn't deserve. The defense carried this team."
McNabb, 26 at the time, was already a three-time Pro Bowler at that point and was in the midst of a really good run in Philly with Andy Reid.
Limbaugh was absolutely wrong in his analysis, and it's highly, highly unlikely he would have had those same criticisms for a white quarterback with McNabb's credentials.
This was classic Rush Limbaugh shock jockery. He just found out the hard way that not all platforms afforded him the latitude to be a divisive ******* that his radio show did.
You are free to believe that, but a decent argument can be made that he wasn't exactly wrong in his analysis.
https://slate.com/culture/2003/10/rush-was-right-about-donovan-mcnabb.html
Is the other person paying for sex or paying to support the child he helped make? Can you distinguish the two?J.B.Katz said:A female litigant seeking child support.Carlos Cruz said:What would be the proper term for someone who wants another person to pay for their decision to have sex?J.B.Katz said:Johnny Bear said:bubbadog said:Not sure why you say that if you read the article and not just the headline. Rush comes across as very gracious and a decent guy.Money465 said:
Grant Teaff is indeed a great speaker and a great man! However, this article was once again an inappropriate swipe by Waco's newspaper aimed at conservative values.
Exactly as he always did. And that headline is obviously just an attention grabber as it has nothing to do with the story if you read the thing in it's entirely.
Wife's a lawyer. She will never forget Limbaugh's saying women shouldn't serve on a jury if the accused was "a stud." Or him calling a married law student a **** for wanting her medical insurance plan to cover the pill.
And she'll probably get it too.
Why was or is it Limbaugh's business what the woman does?Carlos Cruz said:Is the other person paying for sex or paying to support the child he helped make? Can you distinguish the two?J.B.Katz said:A female litigant seeking child support.Carlos Cruz said:What would be the proper term for someone who wants another person to pay for their decision to have sex?J.B.Katz said:Johnny Bear said:bubbadog said:Not sure why you say that if you read the article and not just the headline. Rush comes across as very gracious and a decent guy.Money465 said:
Grant Teaff is indeed a great speaker and a great man! However, this article was once again an inappropriate swipe by Waco's newspaper aimed at conservative values.
Exactly as he always did. And that headline is obviously just an attention grabber as it has nothing to do with the story if you read the thing in it's entirely.
Wife's a lawyer. She will never forget Limbaugh's saying women shouldn't serve on a jury if the accused was "a stud." Or him calling a married law student a **** for wanting her medical insurance plan to cover the pill.
And she'll probably get it too.
Because she made it a public issue when she decided to testify before Congress and request that other people pay for her and her fellow students' personal decisions.J.B.Katz said:Why was or is it Limbaugh's business what the woman does?Carlos Cruz said:Is the other person paying for sex or paying to support the child he helped make? Can you distinguish the two?J.B.Katz said:A female litigant seeking child support.Carlos Cruz said:What would be the proper term for someone who wants another person to pay for their decision to have sex?J.B.Katz said:Johnny Bear said:bubbadog said:Not sure why you say that if you read the article and not just the headline. Rush comes across as very gracious and a decent guy.Money465 said:
Grant Teaff is indeed a great speaker and a great man! However, this article was once again an inappropriate swipe by Waco's newspaper aimed at conservative values.
Exactly as he always did. And that headline is obviously just an attention grabber as it has nothing to do with the story if you read the thing in it's entirely.
Wife's a lawyer. She will never forget Limbaugh's saying women shouldn't serve on a jury if the accused was "a stud." Or him calling a married law student a **** for wanting her medical insurance plan to cover the pill.
And she'll probably get it too.
A young woman testified before a congressional committee.
That's not what she asked.Carlos Cruz said:Because she made it a public issue when she decided to testify before Congress and request that other people pay for her and her fellow students' personal decisions.J.B.Katz said:Why was or is it Limbaugh's business what the woman does?Carlos Cruz said:Is the other person paying for sex or paying to support the child he helped make? Can you distinguish the two?J.B.Katz said:A female litigant seeking child support.Carlos Cruz said:What would be the proper term for someone who wants another person to pay for their decision to have sex?J.B.Katz said:Johnny Bear said:bubbadog said:Not sure why you say that if you read the article and not just the headline. Rush comes across as very gracious and a decent guy.Money465 said:
Grant Teaff is indeed a great speaker and a great man! However, this article was once again an inappropriate swipe by Waco's newspaper aimed at conservative values.
Exactly as he always did. And that headline is obviously just an attention grabber as it has nothing to do with the story if you read the thing in it's entirely.
Wife's a lawyer. She will never forget Limbaugh's saying women shouldn't serve on a jury if the accused was "a stud." Or him calling a married law student a **** for wanting her medical insurance plan to cover the pill.
And she'll probably get it too.
A young woman testified before a congressional committee.
Why should I or anyone else pay for anyone else's decision to have sex--married or not? Stop defending grifting and law students' decisions to have sex whether inside or outside of marriage.J.B.Katz said:That's not what she asked.Carlos Cruz said:Because she made it a public issue when she decided to testify before Congress and request that other people pay for her and her fellow students' personal decisions.J.B.Katz said:Why was or is it Limbaugh's business what the woman does?Carlos Cruz said:Is the other person paying for sex or paying to support the child he helped make? Can you distinguish the two?J.B.Katz said:A female litigant seeking child support.Carlos Cruz said:What would be the proper term for someone who wants another person to pay for their decision to have sex?J.B.Katz said:Johnny Bear said:bubbadog said:Not sure why you say that if you read the article and not just the headline. Rush comes across as very gracious and a decent guy.Money465 said:
Grant Teaff is indeed a great speaker and a great man! However, this article was once again an inappropriate swipe by Waco's newspaper aimed at conservative values.
Exactly as he always did. And that headline is obviously just an attention grabber as it has nothing to do with the story if you read the thing in it's entirely.
Wife's a lawyer. She will never forget Limbaugh's saying women shouldn't serve on a jury if the accused was "a stud." Or him calling a married law student a **** for wanting her medical insurance plan to cover the pill.
And she'll probably get it too.
A young woman testified before a congressional committee.
But you know that.
How many married couples do you know who don't have sex?
How many who plan how many kids they're going to have?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rush_Limbaugh%E2%80%93Sandra_Fluke_controversy
here's one area where Limbaugh was really wrong. It didnt cost extra for the plan to include contraception. Most medical plans do. So nobody was paying for anybody to have sex by requiring Georgetown to include the pill in their plan. But that dishonest talking point sure worked with you.
In a blog post, Landsburg argued that while the talk radio host's language may have been off-color, Limbaugh's logic was analytically shrewd. Fluke, Landsburg writes, "deserves only to be ridiculed, mocked, and jeered" for saying that women should have access to contraception."Carlos Cruz said:Why should I or anyone else pay for anyone else's decision to have sex--married or not? Stop defending grifting and law students' decisions to have sex whether inside or outside of marriage.J.B.Katz said:That's not what she asked.Carlos Cruz said:Because she made it a public issue when she decided to testify before Congress and request that other people pay for her and her fellow students' personal decisions.J.B.Katz said:Why was or is it Limbaugh's business what the woman does?Carlos Cruz said:Is the other person paying for sex or paying to support the child he helped make? Can you distinguish the two?J.B.Katz said:A female litigant seeking child support.Carlos Cruz said:What would be the proper term for someone who wants another person to pay for their decision to have sex?J.B.Katz said:Johnny Bear said:bubbadog said:Not sure why you say that if you read the article and not just the headline. Rush comes across as very gracious and a decent guy.Money465 said:
Grant Teaff is indeed a great speaker and a great man! However, this article was once again an inappropriate swipe by Waco's newspaper aimed at conservative values.
Exactly as he always did. And that headline is obviously just an attention grabber as it has nothing to do with the story if you read the thing in it's entirely.
Wife's a lawyer. She will never forget Limbaugh's saying women shouldn't serve on a jury if the accused was "a stud." Or him calling a married law student a **** for wanting her medical insurance plan to cover the pill.
And she'll probably get it too.
A young woman testified before a congressional committee.
But you know that.
How many married couples do you know who don't have sex?
How many who plan how many kids they're going to have?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rush_Limbaugh%E2%80%93Sandra_Fluke_controversy
here's one area where Limbaugh was really wrong. It didnt cost extra for the plan to include contraception. Most medical plans do. So nobody was paying for anybody to have sex by requiring Georgetown to include the pill in their plan. But that dishonest talking point sure worked with you.