The optics of vacationing in the northern part of a state that is about to get hit with a tropical storm that it is most likely unprepared for and while they are still searching for bodies in Maui is…. Something. https://t.co/9g61VBlgh2

— Brittany (@bccover) August 19, 2023

It's still amazing that he lounged on a beach while a state experienced it's worst natural disaster in its history, he gave no comment to hundreds of people dead or missing, and then before acting or visiting, he went on ANOTHER vacation, and you guys all let him get away with… https://t.co/ZuvLMnw8k2

— Stephen L. Miller (@redsteeze) August 19, 2023

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Jack Bauer said:

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If it were you, you'd be in jail.

The Deep State doesn't give a **** about ethics or conflicts of interest

Proterra, the electric school bus company that Biden's Energy Secretary Jennifer Granholm held over $5 million of stock in while fighting to get them massive subsidies from the federal government, is now bankrupt. https://t.co/hCfZZMyIug

— Greg Price (@greg_price11) August 7, 2023

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https://www.cnn.com/2023/06/22/business/ford-department-of-energy-loan/index.html

Unfortunately, Ford Motor Co. has bought into the electric car fantasy. This is not going to end well for them. All Ford can hope for is a Democrat administration at default time and they won't be forced to pay back their loan. Ultimately, us taxpayers will pay for this too.

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Ford spun off the electric division because it was an albatross that was killing profit. They did that specifically so that so they could show that the main auto division was profitable and show just how much loss there was on the electric side.

I don't think they are as sold out as you might think. They are, smartly, doing what the federal government is demanding so that if the technology wins they are poised well. If it loses they can shut down that division.

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Well, whoever designed the electric Mustang as a suburban housewife SUV needs to be spun out of the industry...

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What don't you like about it? It's definitely not a Mustang but it's a very capable SUEV. Maybe the best of its type.

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Ok, re-name it the Pinto.

Then put the same crew that designed the new Bronco on creating a REAL electric pony car, reminiscent of the original Lee Iaococa version that has been a classic for 60 years...






Sorry, that is just wrong...

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I agree with all that and the same thing goes for the current Chevy blazer. That thing aint a blazer its some ugly mom mobile crossover suv. Give me a new version of the K5 with 4x4 and a removable top. I have a 79 K5 and would love to see them do a new version similar to the old square bodys.

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YES! Tell them to channel Keanu Reeves Bronco in "Speed." Yes, I know not most attractive, but cool as *****

I love the K5.

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I bought a '75 K5 Blazer, while I was at Baylor. Did a ton of work on it. Removed the hardtop and put on a full soft top. That was the last year that they made it convertible all the way to the windshield. It was lifted with 33" mud tires... crate 350 motor with a rebuilt 700R4 transmission. It was a beast, and I loved it.

Wife didn't like it so much, so I had to get rid of it once the kids started coming.

If GM made a modern version based off that truck... it would sell like hotcakes!

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Sounds familiar! Had a beautiful 92 F150, dual tanks, chrome. But it was a bench seat...

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My 96 F150 Eddie Bauer Supercab had a bench seat. I loved that truck too. That 351 V8 was a killer!

That bench seat was nice when I was cruising with a girl... nothing getting in the way.

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[Verse 1]
Ridin' along in my automobile
My baby beside me at the wheel
I stole a kiss at the turn of a mile
My curiosity runnin' wild
Cruisin' and playin' the radio
With no particular place to go

[Verse 2]
Ridin' along in my automobile
I's anxious to tell her the way I feel
So I told her softly and sincere
And she leaned and whispered in my ear
Cuddlin' more and drivin' slow
With no particular place to go

[Verse 3]
No particular place to go
So we parked way out on the kokomo
The night was young and the moon was bold
So we both decided to take a stroll
Can you imagine the way I felt?
I couldn't unfasten her safety belt

[Verse 4]
Ridin' along in my calaboose
Still tryin' to get her belt aloose
All the way home I held a grudge
But the safety belt it wouldn't budge
Cruisin' and playin' the radio
With no particular place to go

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Then kids came and Child Seats...

Biden forgets to unplug his earpiece after his "press conference," then walks away without shaking hands with the other two leaders pic.twitter.com/4rmfuHu4Fh

— RNC Research (@RNCResearch) August 18, 2023

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Jack Bauer said:

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If it were you, you'd be in jail.

The Deep State doesn't give a **** about ethics or conflicts of interest

Proterra, the electric school bus company that Biden's Energy Secretary Jennifer Granholm held over $5 million of stock in while fighting to get them massive subsidies from the federal government, is now bankrupt. https://t.co/hCfZZMyIug

— Greg Price (@greg_price11) August 7, 2023

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https://www.cnn.com/2023/06/22/business/ford-department-of-energy-loan/index.html

Unfortunately, Ford Motor Co. has bought into the electric car fantasy. This is not going to end well for them. All Ford can hope for is a Democrat administration at default time and they won't be forced to pay back their loan. Ultimately, us taxpayers will pay for this too.

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Ford spun off the electric division because it was an albatross that was killing profit. They did that specifically so that so they could show that the main auto division was profitable and show just how much loss there was on the electric side.

I don't think they are as sold out as you might think. They are, smartly, doing what the federal government is demanding so that if the technology wins they are poised well. If it loses they can shut down that division.

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Well, whoever designed the electric Mustang as a suburban housewife SUV needs to be spun out of the industry...

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What don't you like about it? It's definitely not a Mustang but it's a very capable SUEV. Maybe the best of its type.

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Ok, re-name it the Pinto.

Then put the same crew that designed the new Bronco on creating a REAL electric pony car, reminiscent of the original Lee Iaococa version that has been a classic for 60 years...






Sorry, that is just wrong...

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I agree with all that and the same thing goes for the current Chevy blazer. That thing aint a blazer its some ugly mom mobile crossover suv. Give me a new version of the K5 with 4x4 and a removable top. I have a 79 K5 and would love to see them do a new version similar to the old square bodys.

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YES! Tell them to channel Keanu Reeves Bronco in "Speed." Yes, I know not most attractive, but cool as *****

I love the K5.

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I bought a '75 K5 Blazer, while I was at Baylor. Did a ton of work on it. Removed the hardtop and put on a full soft top. That was the last year that they made it convertible all the way to the windshield. It was lifted with 33" mud tires... crate 350 motor with a rebuilt 700R4 transmission. It was a beast, and I loved it.

Wife didn't like it so much, so I had to get rid of it once the kids started coming.

If GM made a modern version based off that truck... it would sell like hotcakes!

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Sounds familiar! Had a beautiful 92 F150, dual tanks, chrome. But it was a bench seat...

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My 96 F150 Eddie Bauer Supercab had a bench seat. I loved that truck too. That 351 V8 was a killer!

That bench seat was nice when I was cruising with a girl... nothing getting in the way.

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[Verse 1]
Ridin' along in my automobile
My baby beside me at the wheel
I stole a kiss at the turn of a mile
My curiosity runnin' wild
Cruisin' and playin' the radio
With no particular place to go

[Verse 2]
Ridin' along in my automobile
I's anxious to tell her the way I feel
So I told her softly and sincere
And she leaned and whispered in my ear
Cuddlin' more and drivin' slow
With no particular place to go

[Verse 3]
No particular place to go
So we parked way out on the kokomo
The night was young and the moon was bold
So we both decided to take a stroll
Can you imagine the way I felt?
I couldn't unfasten her safety belt

[Verse 4]
Ridin' along in my calaboose
Still tryin' to get her belt aloose
All the way home I held a grudge
But the safety belt it wouldn't budge
Cruisin' and playin' the radio
With no particular place to go

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Doesn't get much better than Chuck Berry.

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Jack Bauer said:

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If it were you, you'd be in jail.

The Deep State doesn't give a **** about ethics or conflicts of interest

Proterra, the electric school bus company that Biden's Energy Secretary Jennifer Granholm held over $5 million of stock in while fighting to get them massive subsidies from the federal government, is now bankrupt. https://t.co/hCfZZMyIug

— Greg Price (@greg_price11) August 7, 2023

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https://www.cnn.com/2023/06/22/business/ford-department-of-energy-loan/index.html

Unfortunately, Ford Motor Co. has bought into the electric car fantasy. This is not going to end well for them. All Ford can hope for is a Democrat administration at default time and they won't be forced to pay back their loan. Ultimately, us taxpayers will pay for this too.

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Ford spun off the electric division because it was an albatross that was killing profit. They did that specifically so that so they could show that the main auto division was profitable and show just how much loss there was on the electric side.

I don't think they are as sold out as you might think. They are, smartly, doing what the federal government is demanding so that if the technology wins they are poised well. If it loses they can shut down that division.

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Well, whoever designed the electric Mustang as a suburban housewife SUV needs to be spun out of the industry...

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What don't you like about it? It's definitely not a Mustang but it's a very capable SUEV. Maybe the best of its type.

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Ok, re-name it the Pinto.

Then put the same crew that designed the new Bronco on creating a REAL electric pony car, reminiscent of the original Lee Iaococa version that has been a classic for 60 years...






Sorry, that is just wrong...

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I agree with all that and the same thing goes for the current Chevy blazer. That thing aint a blazer its some ugly mom mobile crossover suv. Give me a new version of the K5 with 4x4 and a removable top. I have a 79 K5 and would love to see them do a new version similar to the old square bodys.

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YES! Tell them to channel Keanu Reeves Bronco in "Speed." Yes, I know not most attractive, but cool as *****

I love the K5.

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I bought a '75 K5 Blazer, while I was at Baylor. Did a ton of work on it. Removed the hardtop and put on a full soft top. That was the last year that they made it convertible all the way to the windshield. It was lifted with 33" mud tires... crate 350 motor with a rebuilt 700R4 transmission. It was a beast, and I loved it.

Wife didn't like it so much, so I had to get rid of it once the kids started coming.

If GM made a modern version based off that truck... it would sell like hotcakes!

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Sounds familiar! Had a beautiful 92 F150, dual tanks, chrome. But it was a bench seat...

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My 96 F150 Eddie Bauer Supercab had a bench seat. I loved that truck too. That 351 V8 was a killer!

That bench seat was nice when I was cruising with a girl... nothing getting in the way.

---

[Verse 1]
Ridin' along in my automobile
My baby beside me at the wheel
I stole a kiss at the turn of a mile
My curiosity runnin' wild
Cruisin' and playin' the radio
With no particular place to go

[Verse 2]
Ridin' along in my automobile
I's anxious to tell her the way I feel
So I told her softly and sincere
And she leaned and whispered in my ear
Cuddlin' more and drivin' slow
With no particular place to go

[Verse 3]
No particular place to go
So we parked way out on the kokomo
The night was young and the moon was bold
So we both decided to take a stroll
Can you imagine the way I felt?
I couldn't unfasten her safety belt

[Verse 4]
Ridin' along in my calaboose
Still tryin' to get her belt aloose
All the way home I held a grudge
But the safety belt it wouldn't budge
Cruisin' and playin' the radio
With no particular place to go

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Then kids came and Child Seats...

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So, you were able to unfasten the safety belt?

Finally, peace with Japan. https://t.co/FTQWLFQX95

— Stephen L. Miller (@redsteeze) August 19, 2023

So wise that he brokered peace between two countries that weren't at war. Next, Biden solves the seemingly intractable conflict between Sweden and Norway. https://t.co/GFE1ONHgZg

— Phineas Fahrquar (@irishspy) August 19, 2023

Tom Steyer recently started a new investment fund, Galvanize Climate Solutions, to invest in green projects. I’m sure that’s totally unrelated. https://t.co/gFHcZDjfq8 pic.twitter.com/b2nf8NL7cs

— Nick Ballas (@NicholasBallas) August 19, 2023

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Tom Steyer recently started a new investment fund, Galvanize Climate Solutions, to invest in green projects. I’m sure that’s totally unrelated. https://t.co/gFHcZDjfq8 pic.twitter.com/b2nf8NL7cs

— Nick Ballas (@NicholasBallas) August 19, 2023

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You can bet there will be coke there

The most incompetent and corrupt president in history. Not even close. Old racist has screwed up everything.

Are Joe and Hunter planning any fishing trips with Al Neri while in Lake Tahoe?

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Jack Bauer said:

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If it were you, you'd be in jail.

The Deep State doesn't give a **** about ethics or conflicts of interest

Proterra, the electric school bus company that Biden's Energy Secretary Jennifer Granholm held over $5 million of stock in while fighting to get them massive subsidies from the federal government, is now bankrupt. https://t.co/hCfZZMyIug

— Greg Price (@greg_price11) August 7, 2023

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https://www.cnn.com/2023/06/22/business/ford-department-of-energy-loan/index.html

Unfortunately, Ford Motor Co. has bought into the electric car fantasy. This is not going to end well for them. All Ford can hope for is a Democrat administration at default time and they won't be forced to pay back their loan. Ultimately, us taxpayers will pay for this too.

---

Ford spun off the electric division because it was an albatross that was killing profit. They did that specifically so that so they could show that the main auto division was profitable and show just how much loss there was on the electric side.

I don't think they are as sold out as you might think. They are, smartly, doing what the federal government is demanding so that if the technology wins they are poised well. If it loses they can shut down that division.

---

Well, whoever designed the electric Mustang as a suburban housewife SUV needs to be spun out of the industry...

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What don't you like about it? It's definitely not a Mustang but it's a very capable SUEV. Maybe the best of its type.

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Ok, re-name it the Pinto.

Then put the same crew that designed the new Bronco on creating a REAL electric pony car, reminiscent of the original Lee Iaococa version that has been a classic for 60 years...






Sorry, that is just wrong...

---

I agree with all that and the same thing goes for the current Chevy blazer. That thing aint a blazer its some ugly mom mobile crossover suv. Give me a new version of the K5 with 4x4 and a removable top. I have a 79 K5 and would love to see them do a new version similar to the old square bodys.

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YES! Tell them to channel Keanu Reeves Bronco in "Speed." Yes, I know not most attractive, but cool as *****

I love the K5.

---

I bought a '75 K5 Blazer, while I was at Baylor. Did a ton of work on it. Removed the hardtop and put on a full soft top. That was the last year that they made it convertible all the way to the windshield. It was lifted with 33" mud tires... crate 350 motor with a rebuilt 700R4 transmission. It was a beast, and I loved it.

Wife didn't like it so much, so I had to get rid of it once the kids started coming.

If GM made a modern version based off that truck... it would sell like hotcakes!

---

Sounds familiar! Had a beautiful 92 F150, dual tanks, chrome. But it was a bench seat...

---

My 96 F150 Eddie Bauer Supercab had a bench seat. I loved that truck too. That 351 V8 was a killer!

That bench seat was nice when I was cruising with a girl... nothing getting in the way.

---

[Verse 1]
Ridin' along in my automobile
My baby beside me at the wheel
I stole a kiss at the turn of a mile
My curiosity runnin' wild
Cruisin' and playin' the radio
With no particular place to go

[Verse 2]
Ridin' along in my automobile
I's anxious to tell her the way I feel
So I told her softly and sincere
And she leaned and whispered in my ear
Cuddlin' more and drivin' slow
With no particular place to go

[Verse 3]
No particular place to go
So we parked way out on the kokomo
The night was young and the moon was bold
So we both decided to take a stroll
Can you imagine the way I felt?
I couldn't unfasten her safety belt

[Verse 4]
Ridin' along in my calaboose
Still tryin' to get her belt aloose
All the way home I held a grudge
But the safety belt it wouldn't budge
Cruisin' and playin' the radio
With no particular place to go

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Then kids came and Child Seats...

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So, you were able to unfasten the safety belt?

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I neither confirm or deny how I used child seats in the 90's...

Looks like its projected that Biden will spend the weekend in Lake Tahoe while Hurricane Hillary wreaks havoc on Southern California. So Biden will fly OVER that on his way to Maui

Pissed off Maui resident lets Biden hear it:

"Why aren't you taking care of what you're in charge of rather than sending out these funds to Ukraine or anywhere. Take care of here first. Biden? He's an idiot!" pic.twitter.com/32mWjmMAuq

— Citizen Free Press (@CitizenFreePres) August 19, 2023

Cobretti said:

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Pissed off Maui resident lets Biden hear it:

"Why aren't you taking care of what you're in charge of rather than sending out these funds to Ukraine or anywhere. Take care of here first. Biden? He's an idiot!" pic.twitter.com/32mWjmMAuq

— Citizen Free Press (@CitizenFreePres) August 19, 2023

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She's obviously

1) a white supremacist
2) wants Putin to win the war against Ukraine.

NBC: Biden's favorability ratings "now look more like Hillary Clinton '16 than Biden '20" pic.twitter.com/737uElijaL

— RNC Research (@RNCResearch) August 20, 2023

Children are dead and Biden left for vacation anyway. https://t.co/AR6MztkXRW

— Bonchie (@bonchieredstate) August 20, 2023

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Children are dead and Biden left for vacation anyway. https://t.co/AR6MztkXRW

— Bonchie (@bonchieredstate) August 20, 2023

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I've heard that Maui children were sent home from school while the parents were at work.

If true, that is downright evil.

CNN's Harry Enten: "The polling indicates that Trump is, in fact, in a stronger position at this point than he was during the entire 2020 campaign...If we had state level polling, I wouldn’t even be surprised if Trump were ahead in the swing states that are most important." pic.twitter.com/fzTd3JYskv

— MAGA War Room (@MAGAIncWarRoom) August 20, 2023

A little kid got separated from her mom for a few minutes at 11 pm because the mom had to be processed for her asylum claim. That was FRONT PAGE NEWS. 24/7. Time magazine cover. It also was a total hoax.

A thousand kids burned in Maui. REALITY.

Any magazine cover for them?

— Cernovich (@Cernovich) August 20, 2023

I recall Trump getting roasted in the press over his response to a disaster in Puerto Rico, odd that we aren't getting the same kind of coverage here.

Cobretti said:

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NBC: Biden's favorability ratings "now look more like Hillary Clinton '16 than Biden '20" pic.twitter.com/737uElijaL

— RNC Research (@RNCResearch) August 20, 2023

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and they're gonna get worse.

Twice. https://t.co/DZgIWg2TW4

— Stephen L. Miller (@redsteeze) August 21, 2023

You have to go to an outlet called "News Nation Now" to get that quote. There 9 stories and Op Eds at the New York Times alone of Ted Cruz going to Cancun. https://t.co/dkwi1Lv19G

— Stephen L. Miller (@redsteeze) August 21, 2023

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Cobretti said:

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NBC: Biden's favorability ratings "now look more like Hillary Clinton '16 than Biden '20" pic.twitter.com/737uElijaL

— RNC Research (@RNCResearch) August 20, 2023

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and they're gonna get worse.

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Rasmussen has Biden at 47% today. 5 other recent polls have him 42-43%.

That clip showed a June poll.

Maui fires hit August 8th.

Since then Biden has taken two vacations and said "no comment" twice to reporters.

I believe he is going BACK to Lake Tahoe to stay with his billionaire friend after visiting Maui where there are nearly 1,000 people missing (likely burned to a crisp).

Ted Cruz got more grief for going to Cancun during the Icepocalypse.

The fires broke out on August 8th. It's August 21st when he's finally going to see the devastation because he was pressured into it. His original plan was a week in Tahoe instead. But sure, he's "been there since day one". https://t.co/k6ZxfaOZnz

— Brittany (@bccover) August 21, 2023

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Cobretti said:

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NBC: Biden's favorability ratings "now look more like Hillary Clinton '16 than Biden '20" pic.twitter.com/737uElijaL

— RNC Research (@RNCResearch) August 20, 2023

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and they're gonna get worse.

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Rasmussen has Biden at 47% today. 5 other recent polls have him 42-43%.

That clip showed a June poll.

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so 47% of Americans are getting rich off his manipulations or too poor to care how badly the blue collars are getting hammered financially in real life

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Cobretti said:

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NBC: Biden's favorability ratings "now look more like Hillary Clinton '16 than Biden '20" pic.twitter.com/737uElijaL

— RNC Research (@RNCResearch) August 20, 2023

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and they're gonna get worse.

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Rasmussen has Biden at 47% today. 5 other recent polls have him 42-43%.

That clip showed a June poll.

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so 47% of Americans are getting rich off his manipulations or too poor to care how badly the blue collars are getting hammered financially in real life

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I know some folks are sick of me blaming Trump for everything, but I think Biden is being judged on a Trump curve. I can think of no other explanation for him holding relatively steady. A good chunk of the electorate cannot simply evaluate Biden. It's Biden v. Trump.

Jack Bauer said:

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Maui fires hit August 8th.

Since then Biden has taken two vacations and said "no comment" twice to reporters.

I believe he is going BACK to Lake Tahoe to stay with his billionaire friend after visiting Maui where there are nearly 1,000 people missing (likely burned to a crisp).

Ted Cruz got more grief for going to Cancun during the Icepocalypse.

The fires broke out on August 8th. It's August 21st when he's finally going to see the devastation because he was pressured into it. His original plan was a week in Tahoe instead. But sure, he's "been there since day one". https://t.co/k6ZxfaOZnz

— Brittany (@bccover) August 21, 2023

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Front page of various "news" sites. Looking at the number of times the word Trump is listed vs. Biden vs Maui

CNN: Biden 2x | Trump 8x | Maui 5x
MSNBC: Biden 1x | Trump 34x | Maui 1x
USA Today: Biden 1x | Trump 6x | Maui 1x
NewsMax: Biden 8x | Trump 24x | Maui 4x
OANN: Biden 1x | Trump 2x | Maui 0x
Fox News: Biden 10x | Trump 2x | Maui 3x
Reuters: Biden 1x | Trump 3x | Maui 3x
AP: Biden 4x | Trump 10x | Maui 3x
CBS: Biden 2x | Trump 11x | Maui 16x
ABC: Biden 5x | Trump 10x | Maui 25x
NBC: Biden 3x | Trump 17x | Maui 7x
BBC: Biden 1x | Trump 0x (Shocking) | Maui 4x
WSJ: Biden 2x | Trump 5x | 1x

Total: Biden 41x | Trump 132x | Maui 73x

That's BS, since polls for Biden v DeSantis, Biden v Scott and so on still show Biden in that range.

The fact is the media is running cover for Joe and the Donks, and that won't change until the Republicans get serious about going after 'The Big Guy'.

Throughout our efforts, we are focused on respecting sacred lands, cultures, and traditions.

***? There are over 1,000 people missing.

Jill and I are on our way to Hawai'i following devastating wildfires.

We’ll meet with first responders, spend time with families and community members, and witness what will be required for the community to recover. Throughout our efforts, we are focused on respecting sacred…

— President Biden (@POTUS) August 21, 2023

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That's BS, since polls for Biden v DeSantis, Biden v Scott and so on still show Biden in that range.

The fact is the media is running cover for Joe and the Donks, and that won't change until the Republicans get serious about going after 'The Big Guy'.

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You may be right. The only "data" I really have to back it up is the historically high % of mid-term voters who voted Dem due to Trump.

As for Biden polls against the other GOP candidates, I just think voters know Trump will be the nominee, and when they think GOP, they think Trump. Edit: I should have added also that you'd expect GOP challengers to perform poorly against an incumbent in general election polls at this stage.

I usually try to provide data to support my arguments, and again, I don't have that here. I just can't figure it out. And, as for the Joe/Hunter stuff, despite the lack of media outrage, a strong majority believe Joe was involved.

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Oldbear83 said:

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That's BS, since polls for Biden v DeSantis, Biden v Scott and so on still show Biden in that range.

The fact is the media is running cover for Joe and the Donks, and that won't change until the Republicans get serious about going after 'The Big Guy'.

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You may be right. The only "data" I really have to back it up is the historically high % of mid-term voters who voted Dem due to Trump.

As for Biden polls against the other GOP candidates, I just think voters know Trump will be the nominee, and when they think GOP, they think Trump. Edit: I should have added also that you'd expect GOP challengers to perform poorly against an incumbent in general election polls at this stage.

I usually try to provide data to support my arguments, and again, I don't have that here. I just can't figure it out. And, as for the Joe/Hunter stuff, despite the lack of media outrage, a strong majority believe Joe was involved.

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The thing is, it's still really early. The GOP nomination won't be known for another 9 months, then there is the General campaign after that.

I'm old enough to have seen a lot of swings, and the only thing I am certain for 2024, is that it will be different in several important ways from what we see now.

I also think it's important to separate national mood from the states, even cities, which will decide 2024. And we have almost no data at that level right now, nothing published anyway.

Hold up.

There is a $12 million gap in the financial disclosures of Joe Biden's Super PAC?

How is this not the biggest political story of the dayhttps://t.co/Ar0NRqjKeQ

— Greg Price (@greg_price11) August 21, 2023

Doc Holliday said:

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A little kid got separated from her mom for a few minutes at 11 pm because the mom had to be processed for her asylum claim. That was FRONT PAGE NEWS. 24/7. Time magazine cover. It also was a total hoax.

A thousand kids burned in Maui. REALITY.

Any magazine cover for them?

— Cernovich (@Cernovich) August 20, 2023

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1,000 kids? 800 people are missing, total, and you publish 1,000 of children?