Canon said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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Canon said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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Canon said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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To the OP: Bad idea

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OLD bear opinion noted.

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Take a look sometime and the % of the population over 60. Stupid to piss off that bloc. Better to just demand someone prove they have a soul, brain and spine. Shewt, AOC proved that young people can be just as stupid as old Pelosi.

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Septuagenarians and octogenarians, with only the most tentative, saggy and not long for this world skin in the game, should not be making decisions they won't be living with in 3-5 years. At a certain point, when you are on the dole, you should bow out and let the people actually paying the bills decide how the house is run.

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Translation: let's find a way to screw the retirees, and let's find it quick.

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Retirees getting massively more out of SSI than most ever put in? No. They aren't getting screwed in this. They just should not be allowed to vote for things they won't live with.

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Since you seem to know...

If one retires at 65, how long would it take to collect only one's contributions?

quash said:

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Canon said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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Canon said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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Canon said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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To the OP: Bad idea

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OLD bear opinion noted.

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Take a look sometime and the % of the population over 60. Stupid to piss off that bloc. Better to just demand someone prove they have a soul, brain and spine. Shewt, AOC proved that young people can be just as stupid as old Pelosi.

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Septuagenarians and octogenarians, with only the most tentative, saggy and not long for this world skin in the game, should not be making decisions they won't be living with in 3-5 years. At a certain point, when you are on the dole, you should bow out and let the people actually paying the bills decide how the house is run.

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Translation: let's find a way to screw the retirees, and let's find it quick.

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Retirees getting massively more out of SSI than most ever put in? No. They aren't getting screwed in this. They just should not be allowed to vote for things they won't live with.

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Since you seem to know...

If one retires at 65, how long would it take to collect only one's contributions?

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Enjoy.

https://www.urban.org/research/publication/social-security-medicare-lifetime-benefits-taxes-2020/view/full_report

Canon said:

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quash said:

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Canon said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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Canon said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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Canon said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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To the OP: Bad idea

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OLD bear opinion noted.

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Take a look sometime and the % of the population over 60. Stupid to piss off that bloc. Better to just demand someone prove they have a soul, brain and spine. Shewt, AOC proved that young people can be just as stupid as old Pelosi.

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Septuagenarians and octogenarians, with only the most tentative, saggy and not long for this world skin in the game, should not be making decisions they won't be living with in 3-5 years. At a certain point, when you are on the dole, you should bow out and let the people actually paying the bills decide how the house is run.

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Translation: let's find a way to screw the retirees, and let's find it quick.

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Retirees getting massively more out of SSI than most ever put in? No. They aren't getting screwed in this. They just should not be allowed to vote for things they won't live with.

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Since you seem to know...

If one retires at 65, how long would it take to collect only one's contributions?

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Enjoy.

https://www.urban.org/research/publication/social-security-medicare-lifetime-benefits-taxes-2020/view/full_report

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Thanks but it doesn't answer my question.

My research showed that prior to 2010 an a erage couple would get more out than they paid in, but that appears to have changed.

Sam didn't mention SSI; why did you bring that up?

quash said:

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Canon said:

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quash said:

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Canon said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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Canon said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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Canon said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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To the OP: Bad idea

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OLD bear opinion noted.

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Take a look sometime and the % of the population over 60. Stupid to piss off that bloc. Better to just demand someone prove they have a soul, brain and spine. Shewt, AOC proved that young people can be just as stupid as old Pelosi.

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Septuagenarians and octogenarians, with only the most tentative, saggy and not long for this world skin in the game, should not be making decisions they won't be living with in 3-5 years. At a certain point, when you are on the dole, you should bow out and let the people actually paying the bills decide how the house is run.

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Translation: let's find a way to screw the retirees, and let's find it quick.

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Retirees getting massively more out of SSI than most ever put in? No. They aren't getting screwed in this. They just should not be allowed to vote for things they won't live with.

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Since you seem to know...

If one retires at 65, how long would it take to collect only one's contributions?

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Enjoy.

https://www.urban.org/research/publication/social-security-medicare-lifetime-benefits-taxes-2020/view/full_report

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Thanks but it doesn't answer my question.

My research showed that prior to 2010 an a erage couple would get more out than they paid in, but that appears to have changed.

Sam didn't mention SSI; why did you bring that up?

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The report shows 90% of people will get more from SSI and Medicare than they pay in….since you couldn't read it.

quash said:

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Canon said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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Canon said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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Canon said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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To the OP: Bad idea

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OLD bear opinion noted.

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Take a look sometime and the % of the population over 60. Stupid to piss off that bloc. Better to just demand someone prove they have a soul, brain and spine. Shewt, AOC proved that young people can be just as stupid as old Pelosi.

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Septuagenarians and octogenarians, with only the most tentative, saggy and not long for this world skin in the game, should not be making decisions they won't be living with in 3-5 years. At a certain point, when you are on the dole, you should bow out and let the people actually paying the bills decide how the house is run.

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Translation: let's find a way to screw the retirees, and let's find it quick.

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Retirees getting massively more out of SSI than most ever put in? No. They aren't getting screwed in this. They just should not be allowed to vote for things they won't live with.

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Since you seem to know...

If one retires at 65, how long would it take to collect only one's contributions?

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In Real Dollars?

Oldbear83 said:

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quash said:

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Canon said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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Canon said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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Canon said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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To the OP: Bad idea

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OLD bear opinion noted.

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Take a look sometime and the % of the population over 60. Stupid to piss off that bloc. Better to just demand someone prove they have a soul, brain and spine. Shewt, AOC proved that young people can be just as stupid as old Pelosi.

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Septuagenarians and octogenarians, with only the most tentative, saggy and not long for this world skin in the game, should not be making decisions they won't be living with in 3-5 years. At a certain point, when you are on the dole, you should bow out and let the people actually paying the bills decide how the house is run.

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Translation: let's find a way to screw the retirees, and let's find it quick.

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Retirees getting massively more out of SSI than most ever put in? No. They aren't getting screwed in this. They just should not be allowed to vote for things they won't live with.

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Since you seem to know...

If one retires at 65, how long would it take to collect only one's contributions?

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In Real Dollars?

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At this point I'll take any dollars/data. I read Canon's link but did not find the 90% he refers to. I did find that since 2010 it appears most people will not get back in as much as they paid. That seems to go along with what Canon says, so don't waste any time on it unless you're curious.

And Canon, you never did say why you brought SSI into a discussion advocating for restricting voting rights.

quash said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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quash said:

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Canon said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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Canon said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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Canon said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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To the OP: Bad idea

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OLD bear opinion noted.

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Take a look sometime and the % of the population over 60. Stupid to piss off that bloc. Better to just demand someone prove they have a soul, brain and spine. Shewt, AOC proved that young people can be just as stupid as old Pelosi.

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Septuagenarians and octogenarians, with only the most tentative, saggy and not long for this world skin in the game, should not be making decisions they won't be living with in 3-5 years. At a certain point, when you are on the dole, you should bow out and let the people actually paying the bills decide how the house is run.

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Translation: let's find a way to screw the retirees, and let's find it quick.

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Retirees getting massively more out of SSI than most ever put in? No. They aren't getting screwed in this. They just should not be allowed to vote for things they won't live with.

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Since you seem to know...

If one retires at 65, how long would it take to collect only one's contributions?

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In Real Dollars?

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At this point I'll take any dollars/data. I read Canon's link but did not find the 90% he refers to. I did find that since 2010 it appears most people will not get back in as much as they paid. That seems to go along with what Canon says, so don't waste any time on it unless you're curious.

And Canon, you never did say why you brought SSI into a discussion advocating for restricting voting rights.

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You would need to look at the percentage of the population that earns the income threshold at which more is paid in than received. 90% don't meet that. That's a logical step I understand you couldn't take.

Canon said:

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quash said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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quash said:

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Canon said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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Canon said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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Canon said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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To the OP: Bad idea

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OLD bear opinion noted.

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Take a look sometime and the % of the population over 60. Stupid to piss off that bloc. Better to just demand someone prove they have a soul, brain and spine. Shewt, AOC proved that young people can be just as stupid as old Pelosi.

---

Septuagenarians and octogenarians, with only the most tentative, saggy and not long for this world skin in the game, should not be making decisions they won't be living with in 3-5 years. At a certain point, when you are on the dole, you should bow out and let the people actually paying the bills decide how the house is run.

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Translation: let's find a way to screw the retirees, and let's find it quick.

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Retirees getting massively more out of SSI than most ever put in? No. They aren't getting screwed in this. They just should not be allowed to vote for things they won't live with.

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Since you seem to know...

If one retires at 65, how long would it take to collect only one's contributions?

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In Real Dollars?

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At this point I'll take any dollars/data. I read Canon's link but did not find the 90% he refers to. I did find that since 2010 it appears most people will not get back in as much as they paid. That seems to go along with what Canon says, so don't waste any time on it unless you're curious.

And Canon, you never did say why you brought SSI into a discussion advocating for restricting voting rights.

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You would need to look at the percentage of the population that earns the income threshold at which more is paid in than received. 90% don't meet that. That's a logical step I understand you couldn't take.

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And it applies to your proposed voting restrictions how?

quash said:

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Canon said:

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quash said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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quash said:

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Canon said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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Canon said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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Canon said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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To the OP: Bad idea

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OLD bear opinion noted.

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Take a look sometime and the % of the population over 60. Stupid to piss off that bloc. Better to just demand someone prove they have a soul, brain and spine. Shewt, AOC proved that young people can be just as stupid as old Pelosi.

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Septuagenarians and octogenarians, with only the most tentative, saggy and not long for this world skin in the game, should not be making decisions they won't be living with in 3-5 years. At a certain point, when you are on the dole, you should bow out and let the people actually paying the bills decide how the house is run.

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Translation: let's find a way to screw the retirees, and let's find it quick.

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Retirees getting massively more out of SSI than most ever put in? No. They aren't getting screwed in this. They just should not be allowed to vote for things they won't live with.

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Since you seem to know...

If one retires at 65, how long would it take to collect only one's contributions?

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In Real Dollars?

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At this point I'll take any dollars/data. I read Canon's link but did not find the 90% he refers to. I did find that since 2010 it appears most people will not get back in as much as they paid. That seems to go along with what Canon says, so don't waste any time on it unless you're curious.

And Canon, you never did say why you brought SSI into a discussion advocating for restricting voting rights.

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You would need to look at the percentage of the population that earns the income threshold at which more is paid in than received. 90% don't meet that. That's a logical step I understand you couldn't take.

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And it applies to your proposed voting restrictions how?

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You should read for comprehension. Age limits on running for office (as already exist) are not voting restrictions. But try and spin spin spin.

They had voting rights. You want the state to take them away.

Explain what I'm getting wrong.

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They had voting rights. You want the state to take them away.

Explain what I'm getting wrong.

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It would sooner be beneficial to explain programming a VCR to a donkey.

Lots of morons on this thread.

Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:

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Lots of morons on this thread.

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This moron wants to know if you made it to Cambodia .

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Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:

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Lots of morons on this thread.

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This moron wants to know if you made it to Cambodia .

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Waiting till January. Will fly Cancun to Bangkok, work my way west and spend a week in Buriram, then a week in Surin, the cross on over to Phnom Penh. Life is good.

The morons are all the posters that disagree with gollum.

Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:

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Canada2017 said:

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Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:

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Lots of morons on this thread.

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This moron wants to know if you made it to Cambodia .

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Waiting till January. Will fly Cancun to Bangkok, work my way west and spend a week in Buriram, then a week in Surin, the cross on over to Phnom Penh. Life is good.

The morons are all the posters that disagree with gollum.

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Man, that's lots of time in the air.

Not sure I would be willing to endure it .

Bringing your angel or is she been put on the reserve list ?

Its about the same as the Abu Dhabi to Dallas flight I used to always take but it seems shorter, Probably because I enjoy the outcome more. Angel will stay behind but depending on college may join me for some legs of my excursion. I have never been one to take sand to the beach.

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I have never been one to take sand to the beach.

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Whoa there Duke.....didn't this 'sand' help save your life ?

Yes she did and i am forever grateful. We enjoy each others company a lot. We share a lot of time together. She is in college which prevents her from traveling as much as me. It works for us.

I probably should not of made the sand comment.

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They had voting rights. You want the state to take them away.

Explain what I'm getting wrong.

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It would sooner be beneficial to explain programming a VCR to a donkey.

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So you can't do it. Thought as much.

quash said:

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Canon said:

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quash said:

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They had voting rights. You want the state to take them away.

Explain what I'm getting wrong.

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It would sooner be beneficial to explain programming a VCR to a donkey.

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So you can't do it. Thought as much.

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LOLOLOLOLOL!!!

Canon said:

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quash said:

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Canon said:

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quash said:

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They had voting rights. You want the state to take them away.

Explain what I'm getting wrong.

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It would sooner be beneficial to explain programming a VCR to a donkey.

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So you can't do it. Thought as much.

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LOLOLOLOLOL!!!

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I interpret this to mean you can't do it. Otherwise you would have done it.

Osodecentx said:

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Canon said:

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quash said:

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Canon said:

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quash said:

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They had voting rights. You want the state to take them away.

Explain what I'm getting wrong.

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It would sooner be beneficial to explain programming a VCR to a donkey.

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So you can't do it. Thought as much.

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LOLOLOLOLOL!!!

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I interpret this to mean you can't do it. Otherwise you would have done it.

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You continue to be wrong. Why change?

Canon said:

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Osodecentx said:

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Canon said:

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quash said:

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Canon said:

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quash said:

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They had voting rights. You want the state to take them away.

Explain what I'm getting wrong.

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It would sooner be beneficial to explain programming a VCR to a donkey.

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So you can't do it. Thought as much.

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LOLOLOLOLOL!!!

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I interpret this to mean you can't do it. Otherwise you would have done it.

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You continue to be wrong. Why change?

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LOLOLOLOLOL!!!

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Canon said:

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Osodecentx said:

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Canon said:

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quash said:

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Canon said:

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quash said:

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They had voting rights. You want the state to take them away.

Explain what I'm getting wrong.

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It would sooner be beneficial to explain programming a VCR to a donkey.

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So you can't do it. Thought as much.

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LOLOLOLOLOL!!!

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I interpret this to mean you can't do it. Otherwise you would have done it.

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You continue to be wrong. Why change?

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LOLOLOLOLOL!!!

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Exactly!

Canon said:

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Osodecentx said:

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Canon said:

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Osodecentx said:

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Canon said:

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quash said:

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Canon said:

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quash said:

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They had voting rights. You want the state to take them away.

Explain what I'm getting wrong.

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It would sooner be beneficial to explain programming a VCR to a donkey.

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So you can't do it. Thought as much.

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LOLOLOLOLOL!!!

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I interpret this to mean you can't do it. Otherwise you would have done it.

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You continue to be wrong. Why change?

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LOLOLOLOLOL!!!

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Exactly!

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LOLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLOL!!!!