ABC BEAR said:
Which side is the Biden administration supporting?
Still waiting to hear from Beijing.
Russia planning massive military offensive against Ukraine involving 175,000 troops,
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Still waiting to hear from Beijing.
Depends on which cheek Joe lifts when he farts.
Christian, white, male, straight, conservative...how else can I offend you today?
Putin knows he is facing a strawman.Harrison Bergeron said:
I fear we're soon all going to wish we had adults in the White House.
His military chiefs know it.....our Joint Chiefs of Staff know it.........hell even Biden knows it .
Putin wins this round .
“Biden Administration officials have suggested that the U.S. will press Ukraine to formally cede a measure of autonomy to eastern Ukrainian lands now controlled by Russia-backed separatists who rose up against Kyiv in 2014.”https://t.co/TpAUbA7cty
— Jerry Christmas 🎄🎅🏽 (@JerryDunleavy) December 9, 2021
Funny how every time Biden is near the White House Putin gets whatever he wants. #russianhoax
Does Putin have something on Biden?
Oy vey! Everyone has Kompromat on Biden. Hunter is a disaster walking.Osodecentx said:
Does Putin have something on Biden?
The Dnieper river is the natural western security border of the Russian state.....regardless of if we like this or not every Russian government from Tsar to Soviet to Putinist over the past 400 years has pursued this as a national security policy.
who blue stars these ramblings??Amal Shuq-Up said:Canada2017 said:NATO has been a useless shell of a military alliance for at least 25 years.Amal Shuq-Up said:
This will destroy NATO and likely the current world order.
This will demonstrate such and after the Afghanistan debacle will show that NATO is a useless, unreliable political organization.
stunner that a Trump lover is saying this.Canada2017 said:No.Osodecentx said:Ukraine isn't in NATO, so we don't have treaty obligations to defend Ukraine.Canada2017 said:NATO has been a useless shell of a military alliance for at least 25 years.Amal Shuq-Up said:
This will destroy NATO and likely the current world order.
Would you go nuclear to defend Ukraine?
Would not risk a single US serviceman for any country in Europe.
World War 2 has been over for almost 75 years.
It is ridiculous that the United States is STILL paying for European defense . Especially when they rarely if ever pay their own needed defense budgets .
why are the Trumpers saying Joe is too weak, when we all know Trump as President for sure wouldn't be opposing Russian aggression in this area. That's probably the right answer, too.
Ridiculous comments .bularry said:stunner that a Trump lover is saying this.Canada2017 said:No.Osodecentx said:Ukraine isn't in NATO, so we don't have treaty obligations to defend Ukraine.Canada2017 said:NATO has been a useless shell of a military alliance for at least 25 years.Amal Shuq-Up said:
This will destroy NATO and likely the current world order.
Would you go nuclear to defend Ukraine?
Would not risk a single US serviceman for any country in Europe.
World War 2 has been over for almost 75 years.
It is ridiculous that the United States is STILL paying for European defense . Especially when they rarely if ever pay their own needed defense budgets .
why are the Trumpers saying Joe is too weak, when we all know Trump as President for sure wouldn't be opposing Russian aggression in this area. That's probably the right answer, too.
First you mock the opinion ( and BTW am not a 'Trump lover' ) .........then make a huge assumption what Trump would do.......and lastly admit it is 'probably the right answer'.
bularry said:who blue stars these ramblings??Amal Shuq-Up said:Canada2017 said:NATO has been a useless shell of a military alliance for at least 25 years.Amal Shuq-Up said:
This will destroy NATO and likely the current world order.
This will demonstrate such and after the Afghanistan debacle will show that NATO is a useless, unreliable political organization.
Off the wagon. Again.
I fear the Russians making a move on Ukraine and then China moving on Taiwan.
I expect it. They know the Biden admin is weak.Feel The Floyd said:
I fear the Russians making a move on Ukraine and then China moving on Taiwan.
ExactlyDoc Holliday said:I expect it. They know the Biden admin is weak.Feel The Floyd said:
I fear the Russians making a move on Ukraine and then China moving on Taiwan.
Offer to launch talks with Russia about European security on the condition that Moscow demobilizes its looming invasion force. https://t.co/Dl5J66FGvI
— War on the Rocks (@WarOnTheRocks) December 11, 2021
Excellent: Finland and Sweden 'closer than it has ever' to joining Nato after Putin's threats backfire
— Nile Gardiner (@NileGardiner) January 8, 2022
A belligerent Kremlin threatening a possible invasion of Ukraine has given fresh impetus to the push to join Nato in the two countries https://t.co/E5m42GEx2D
The Russian military is preparing to hide its troops from the Ukrainian robots using a millennia-old countermeasure https://t.co/Vj8cfEYZHn
— Forbes (@Forbes) December 17, 2021
Signal:
— Dmitri Alperovitch (@DAlperovitch) December 21, 2021
The information battlefield is now being prepared for a provocation that can be pinned on Ukraine, US or NATO (or all 3). They will be used as part of an excuse to justify an invasionhttps://t.co/KD6txalWx4
My gosh the liberal oligarchy is going to get us into a shooting war with a nuclear armed Russia over the frozen wastelands of eastern Ukraine...lands that are populated with (checks notes) ethnic Russians.
Ukrainian Border Guard MDK-3 trench digger renews anti-tank ditches on NE border, Sumy Oblast. Earth berm obstacle also forces any crossing vehicle to expose weaker belly armour to AT weapons. #UkraineWillResist @RALee85 @KyleJGlen @tom_bullock_ @pmakela1 https://t.co/7M1MJkRJ3D pic.twitter.com/hVJhsLujao
— Dan (@Danspiun) December 21, 2021
Who can believe anything Biden says. He does the opposite of every thing he says.
Ukraine PM calls for NATO's help against Russia
https://www.politico.eu/article/ukraine-shmyhal-nato-russia/Quote:
With a major mobilization of Russian troops once again menacing Ukraine, and U.S. intelligence warning of a potential invasion, Ukrainian Prime Minister Denys Shmyhal on Thursday urged NATO to send warships to the Black Sea and step up reconnaissance flights along Russia's borders.
"Ensuring the constant presence of maritime warships of the NATO alliance in the Black Sea would be a very strong signal," Shmyhal said in an interview with POLITICO by videoconference from his office in Kyiv.
"In the same way, a very strong signal would be the increase of intelligence and reconnaissance flights across the Russian border, in particular in the Black Sea and the Baltic Sea," he said.
Shmyhal's request echoed proposals put forward by Polish President Andrzej Duda during a meeting with Secretary-General Jens Stoltenberg at NATO headquarters in Brussels on Thursday. Duda also called for an increased deployment of allied troops in Poland and the Baltic countries of Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania.
As part of preparation efforts, Kyiv is testing air-raid sirens this week & reviving many of its nearly 5,000 bomb shelters, which include central metro stations built on the orders of the Soviet leadership in the wake of WW2 hundreds of feet underground. https://t.co/VMhTRnSVlM
— Christopher Miller (@ChristopherJM) December 22, 2021
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shooting war with a nuclear armed Russia over the frozen wastelands of eastern Ukraine...lands that are populated with (checks notes) ethnic Russians.
So by the same logic Mexico has a right to reconquer the Southwestern states of the US? Liberal oligarchy (whatever that's supposed to mean) bad, Russian oligarchy good?
Kudos to @NeilMacFarquhar. @RANDCorporation also addressed Russia’s "firehose of falsehoods” https://t.co/YI9utjIHiM https://t.co/d9v0ACubDO
— Jeffrey Hiday (@hidayj) August 30, 2016
Certainly true that Russia is an oligarchy.jupiter said:Quote:
shooting war with a nuclear armed Russia over the frozen wastelands of eastern Ukraine...lands that are populated with (checks notes) ethnic Russians.
So by the same logic Mexico has a right to reconquer the Southwestern states of the US? Liberal oligarchy (whatever that's supposed to mean) bad, Russian oligarchy good?
But America has no more of a national security interest in getting mixed up in a Russia vs Ukraine war...than Russia would have in getting mixed up in an America vs Mexico war.
At some point we have to stop getting mixed up in conflicts on the other side of the globe ...it didn't work out well in Iraq of Afghanistan.
What makes you think it will work out better in eastern Ukraine?
Except this time we would not be fighting Pashtun tribesmen but a nuclear armed modern nation state.
Canada2017 said:No.Osodecentx said:Ukraine isn't in NATO, so we don't have treaty obligations to defend Ukraine.Canada2017 said:NATO has been a useless shell of a military alliance for at least 25 years.Amal Shuq-Up said:
This will destroy NATO and likely the current world order.
Would you go nuclear to defend Ukraine?
Would not risk a single US serviceman for any country in Europe.
World War 2 has been over for almost 75 years.
It is ridiculous that the United States is STILL paying for European defense . Especially when they rarely if ever pay their own needed defense budgets .
This would be correct. We pay for their defense and they use their money to provide for their citizens.
bularry said:stunner that a Trump lover is saying this.Canada2017 said:No.Osodecentx said:Ukraine isn't in NATO, so we don't have treaty obligations to defend Ukraine.Canada2017 said:NATO has been a useless shell of a military alliance for at least 25 years.Amal Shuq-Up said:
This will destroy NATO and likely the current world order.
Would you go nuclear to defend Ukraine?
Would not risk a single US serviceman for any country in Europe.
World War 2 has been over for almost 75 years.
It is ridiculous that the United States is STILL paying for European defense . Especially when they rarely if ever pay their own needed defense budgets .
why are the Trumpers saying Joe is too weak, when we all know Trump as President for sure wouldn't be opposing Russian aggression in this area. That's probably the right answer, too.
So you don't think Trump would do something like this to oppose Russian aggression in Ukraine?
https://edition.cnn.com/2018/01/26/politics/us-russia-sanctions-ukraine/index.html