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NCAA releases findings from investigation into Baylor Football program

August 11, 2021
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On Wednesday, the NCAA made available its findings from a recently concluded investigation into the Baylor football program that began in 2016. 

According to the release, “A Division I Committee on Infractions hearing panel could not conclude that Baylor violated NCAA rules when it failed to report allegations of and address sexual and interpersonal violence committed on its campus.

“However, the panel did find other violations occurred between 2011 and 2016: impermissible benefits were provided to a football student-athlete who was not reported for failing to meet an academic performance plan following an academic violation and the university operated a predominantly female student-host program that did not align with NCAA recruiting rules. Additionally, a former assistant director of football operations did not meet his obligation to cooperate and violated ethical conduct rules when he did not participate in the investigation.

“Penalties in the case include four years of probation, recruiting restrictions, a vacation of records and a five-year show-cause order limiting all athletically related duties for the former assistant director of football operations.”

The exact punishments were as following.

  • Four years of probation.
  • A $5,000 fine.
  • A reduction to 30 football official visits during the 2021-22 academic year.
  • A three-week ban on unofficial visits in football during the 2021-22 academic year.
  • A two-week ban on football recruiting communication during the 2021-22 academic year.
  • A reduction of football evaluation days by three during fall 2021 and by 10 during spring 2022.
  • A five-year show-cause order for the former assistant director of football operations. During that period, any NCAA member school employing him must restrict him from any athletically related duties unless it shows cause why the restrictions should not apply.
  • A vacation of all records in which student-athletes competed while ineligible. The university must provide a written report containing the contests impacted to the NCAA media coordination and statistics staff within 14 days of the public release of the decision.

Baylor is expected to release additional information on the findings at 11:30 a.m. CT on its official University website.

The NCAA will make available Joel Maturi, former athletics director at Minnesota and chief hearing officer for the panel, to the media at 12 p.m. CT. 

Baylor President Linda Livingstone and Vice President and Director of Athletics Mack Rhoades will hold a joint virtual press conference at 1:30 p.m. CT. 

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NCAA releases findings from investigation into Baylor Football program

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BellCountyBear
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Where's the damned $25M Baylor is owed from the conference?
Stranger
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BellCountyBear said:

Where's the damned $25M Baylor is owed from the conference?

exactly
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Aliceinbubbleland
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Is Reagan Ramsower still drawing a check? After he sold us out to his relative with the WSJ I have to wonder what he has on someone in high places.
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boognish_bear said:

Aranda must have been apprised of how minimal the NCAA punishment was likely to be before he accepted the position.


It's doubtful anyone knew back then. Certainly not anyone at Baylor. He was probably told that we were still waiting but he was already aware no doubt.
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McCavebear said:

Johnny Bear said:

PaperBear89 said:

boognish_bear said:

PaperBear89 said:

spent 95% of the story explaining how the NCAAA decided to tie its own hands on the sexual assault allegations ... and of course rehashed the entire history going back to 2013.


You know they have had the ready and waiting in the can for the moment the ruling came out...
Typical lazy-ass journalism that the media has become.
Why is it so hard for some people to understand that legal or civil issues including even serious ones like sexual assault allegations are totally outside of the NCAA's jurisdiction?
They are also totally outside the jurisdiction of universities to properly investigate and prosecute. Such matters are for the law courts...

Sounds like they went through our athletic program with a fine toothed comb and found only de minibus technical improprieties totally unrelated to the ginned up sexual assault narrative that caused us to lose Coach Briles and Ian.


I still wonder how much of this entire fake scandal, from the beginning (May 2016), is more about the Feds unconstitutionally misinterpreting Title IX so that universities were setting up kangaroo courts anytime a male student was accused of anything. Because "a woman never lies about rape" (unless she's accusing Bill Clinton, apparently). It was all so political and based upon gossip & innuendo and NO EVIDENCE!!!

This was ALWAYS an issue for the courts & there NEVER was a legitimate reason for universities, much less coaches, to get involved in investigating or punishing students who were accused. In fact, those actions, arguably were obstructions of justice which is a real crime.

Strange how easy it has been for so many people to forget the concept of justice & what it actually means. All the media hacks should read the constitution more often. Politicians & judges too, since they are sworn to uphold it.
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boognish_bear
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BellCountyBear said:

Where's the damned $25M Baylor is owed from the conference?


I'm pretty sure I saw somewhere today where that is now being returned
BellCountyBear
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boognish_bear said:

BellCountyBear said:

Where's the damned $25M Baylor is owed from the conference?


I'm pretty sure I saw somewhere today where that is now being returned
Link?
SIC EM 94
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BellCountyBear said:

boognish_bear said:

BellCountyBear said:

Where's the damned $25M Baylor is owed from the conference?


I'm pretty sure I saw somewhere today where that is now being returned
Link?


I too saw something that Bowlsby suggested the money would be returned sometime in the Fall.
historian
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No time like the present. I guess it doesn't matter as long as it's going to be with interest.

Yes, I know that's not gonna to happen. But it should.
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boognish_bear
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This whole story seemed to slow down really fast today. There was plenty of buzz in the media yesterday, but I really didn't see or hear much about it today.

I guess I just got used to how it was in the beginning when just one story related to it seemed to go on for days.

Maybe we are really nearing the end of this narrative.
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Aliceinbubbleland said:

Is Reagan Ramsower still drawing a check? After he sold us out to his relative with the WSJ I have to wonder what he has on someone in high places.
He got out unscathed with his millions a couple of years after it all went down. Nobody involved in the investigation and in the media seemed curious about his role, even though ultimately he was directly in charge of campus security.
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boognish_bear said:

This whole story seemed to slow down really fast today. There was plenty of buzz in the media yesterday, but I really didn't see or hear much about it today.

I guess I just got used to how it was in the beginning when just one story related to it seemed to go on for days.

Maybe we are really nearing the end of this narrative.


Media has no interest in Baylor not getting serious sanctions. The ap story title misleadingly suggested the sanctions were the result of the sexual assault scandal which they weren't. That is the narrative the media wanted to tell though so had no interest when facts didn't bear it out.
historian
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Has the mainstream ever been interested in facts? Certainly not when they interfere with the preferred propaganda narrative.
“Incline my heart to your testimonies, and not to selfish gain!”
Psalm 119:36
possible12
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BUGWBBear said:

Big_Pumpin said:

Probation?


As in DONT FYUCK UP AGAIN OR WE'LL REALLY GET HUFFY!
Now would be the time to cheat...NCAA won't be around to enforce if it takes this long to determine.
historian
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It's never a good time to cheat.
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baldeagle
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As far as I am concerned Baylor owes Art Briles a public apology.
historian
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A lot of people do. He won't be getting them.
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Ewalker80
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baldeagle said:

As far as I am concerned Baylor owes Art Briles a public apology.


If you think this you must not have read the ncaa report. It found briles committed grossly unethical and immoral conduct. Such conduct clearly warranted dismissal.
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historian said:

Has the mainstream ever been interested in facts? Certainly not when they interfere with the preferred propaganda narrative.
Facts are second in priority to clicks and viewers or promoting an agenda. It also isn't limited to either left or right wing media. They all are guilty.....and should all be blasted for how they have divided the country. We can't even unify and fight a pandemic without this crap getting in the way.

Enemies don't have to attack us anymore. Just get into Rachael Maddow's ear or Tucker Carlson's ear with anything you can make up and they will promote as fact.....and usually throw in with their own fearmongering and conspiracy theories. At that point the enemy can just sit back and watch and laugh as we tear each other apart.
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historian said:

Has the mainstream ever been interested in facts? Certainly not when they interfere with the preferred propaganda narrative.

They only pay attention to or use actual facts when they can be twisted or distorted to fit their agenda and their pre-determined outcomes. And if there are no facts that can be manipulated or if the facts clearly support the opposite of their agenda, they either simply ignore them or literally make lies up while name calling those that disagree - and use actual facts to support their position. And no, there isn't an "equivalency" on both sides.

Dia del DougO
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historian said:

A lot of people do. He won't be getting them.
Paul Fraudbum and a few others deserve to be blood-eagled for how badly they ruined his reputation and made out-right lies go viral.
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PaperBear89 said:

Just read the ESPN story. Gotta love the way they barely mentioned what we were actually punished for and spent 95% of the story explaining how the NCAAA decided to tie its own hands on the sexual assault allegations ... and of course rehashed the entire history going back to 2013.

Just one more reason to hold our ground on the CFP to get it to a point of renegotiation (2025?) where all networks can come in and bid. Then change it to a 12 team play off, after we've had a chance to give other Networks the opportunity to cut the legs out from under ESPN. Gonna depend a lot on how much Disney is willing to spend at that point. With OUT gone, perhaps a Big 12 network?
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