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Gameday Thread: #3 Baylor (24-5; 12-4) at #21 Texas (21-8; 10-6)

February 28, 2022
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#3 Baylor (24-5; 12-4) travels to  #21 Texas (21-8; 10-6) Monday February 28th at 8pm CST in Austin at the Frank Erwin Center.  The game will be televised on ESPN.

KenPom Prediction:  Baylor 68 Texas 67

Torvik Prediction:  Texas 67 Baylor 66

Evan Miyakawa Prediction:  Texas 68 Baylor 67

Coaches

Texas:   Chris Beard (48); 229-93 (21-8 at Texas); 4 NCAAs; 2 Sweet 16s; 2 Elite 8s; 1 Final 4

Baylor:  Scott Drew (51); 416-229 overall (395-218 at Baylor); 9 NCAAs; 5 Sweet 16s; 3 Elite 8s; FF; 1 National Championship

Head to Head:  Drew 8-3

Texas Starters

Guard:  Marcus Carr (SR) 6-2 190 lbs; 11 ppg; 2 reb; 3 asst; 39% FG; 32% 3pt; 78% FT

Guard:  Courtney Ramey (SR) 6-3 185 lbs; 9 ppg; 3 reb; 2 asst; 41% FG; 35% 3pt; 75% FT

Guard:  Timmy Allen (SR) 6-6 210 lbs; 12 ppg; 7 reb; 2 asst; 53% FG; 26% 3pt; 74% FT

Guard:  Andrew Jones (SR) 6-4 210 lbs; 11 ppg; 3 reb; 2 asst; 42% FG; 33% 3pt; 82% FT

Forward:  Christian Bishop (SR) 6-7 220 lbs; 7 ppg; 5 reb; 59% FG; 33% 3pt; 74% FT

Texas Bench

Forward:  Brock Cunningham (JR) 6-6 210 lbs; 2 ppg; 2 reb; 47% FG; 44% 3pt; 81% FT

Forward:  Dylan Disu (JR) 6-9 225 lbs; 4 ppg; 3 reb; 48% FG; 82% FT

Guard:  Jase Febres (SR) 6-5 190 lbs; 4 ppg; 37% FG; 33% 3pt; 75% FT

Guard:  Devin Askew (SO) 6-3 195 lbs; 2 ppg; 2 asst; 38% FG; 30% 3pt; 59% FT

Baylor Starters

Guard:  James Akinjo (SR) 6-1 190 lbs; 13 ppg; 2 reb; 6 asst; 2 st; 38% FG; 30% 3pt; 84% FT

Guard:  Adam Flagler (JR) 6-3 180 lbs; 14 ppg; 3 reb; 3 asst; 45% FG; 39% 3pt; 73% FT

Forward:  Matt Mayer (SR) 6-9 230 lbs; 10 ppg; 5 reb; 1 st; 41% FG; 33% 3pt; 65% FT

Forward:  Kendall Brown (FR) 6-8 205 lbs; 10 ppg; 5 reb; 2 asst; 59% FG; 32% 3pt; 73% FT

Forward:  Flo Thamba (SR) 6-10 250 lbs; 6 ppg; 5 reb; 1 blk; 53%; 58% FT

Baylor Bench

*Guard:  LJ Cryer (SO) 6-1 190 lbs; 14 ppg; 2 reb; 2 asst; 48% FG; 47% 3pt; 78% FT

Forward:  Jeremy Sochan (FR) 6-9 230 lbs; 9 ppg; 6 reb; 2 asst; 50% FG; 31% 3pt; 58% FT

Guard:  Dale Bonner (JR) 6-2 170 lbs; 3 ppg; 2 asst; 34% FG; 18% 3pt; 72% FT

*injuries, status uncertain

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In reply to Stefano DiMera • 11:33p, 2/28/22
Stefano DiMera said:
If it's gonna happen it's gonna happen in Ft Worth Tues not Lawrence on Thursday.
Yeah. I don't see Kansas losing at Allen Fieldhouse. So if someone's going to get them, it's almost going to have to come tomorrow at TCU.
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11:38p, 2/28/22
That goddam home loss to OSU
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In reply to bear2be2 • 12:13a, 3/1/22
I think the reason they continue to state that is because he was the leading scorer prior to getting hurt, by his average. Sucks, but he would likely be a liability on defense until he gets his lungs and foot speed back. I am assuming he is not practicing at all? He drilled a couple of the threes at Tech but you could tell his game shape was not there.
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4:25a, 3/1/22
Trolls and reactionary morons absent from every game thread when we were winning. No one on here trashing our coaches or players. Coincidence?
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In reply to Robert Wilson • 6:21a, 3/1/22
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That goddam home loss to OSU
Hated it, but I think it helped the team focus long-term. Bears haven't taken anyone for granted, and everyone has stayed engaged every game, even Monday when they had reason to be tired and lose a step.
That which does not kill me, will try again and get nastier
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In reply to Quinton • 6:43a, 3/1/22
Quinton said:
Stefano DiMera said:
Sounds like Fran had a little insider info. A fracture in a different place than the screws

Doesn't expect him back.
Yep, didn't sound good. Then they brought in the sideline reporter who said it was painful to walk but was healing okay. Doesn't sound anything like pain threshold anymore. A new fracture that needs to heal.

But its been what a few weeks since the last action and then has 3 more weeks until the tourney. Puts him on the border at 5 weeks assuming the Tech game was a new break. Get through the first weekend and then your at 6 weeks since the last action which sounds doable based on complete spitballing here. Need him to repeat and not have the team gas out in tournament style play.
"Painful to walk but was healing OK." Let's face it the seven-player rotation we played the last couple of games is the rotation we will have in the Tournament.

Are those seven players good enough to win the whole thing? Yes. Should they be considered the favorites? Yes. Are we a lock to win it all? I thought we were with Cryer and JTT, but we now have no margin of error to counteract foul trouble or another injury.

If this group wins it all it is a better story than last year.
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In reply to TXBEAR_bf • 7:33a, 3/1/22
TXBEAR_bf said:
I think the reason they continue to state that is because he was the leading scorer prior to getting hurt, by his average. Sucks, but he would likely be a liability on defense until he gets his lungs and foot speed back. I am assuming he is not practicing at all? He drilled a couple of the threes at Tech but you could tell his game shape was not there.
He was our scoring leader. He's not anymore.

He's definitely a big loss, and I wish we had him. But scoring averages are dynamic things. And it is factually inaccurate -- and frankly dismissive of Flagler's recent play -- to continue to refer to him as our leading scorer when it's demonstrably untrue.
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In reply to BUCANDOIT82 • 7:38a, 3/1/22
BUCANDOIT82 said:
Quinton said:
Stefano DiMera said:
Sounds like Fran had a little insider info. A fracture in a different place than the screws

Doesn't expect him back.
Yep, didn't sound good. Then they brought in the sideline reporter who said it was painful to walk but was healing okay. Doesn't sound anything like pain threshold anymore. A new fracture that needs to heal.

But its been what a few weeks since the last action and then has 3 more weeks until the tourney. Puts him on the border at 5 weeks assuming the Tech game was a new break. Get through the first weekend and then your at 6 weeks since the last action which sounds doable based on complete spitballing here. Need him to repeat and not have the team gas out in tournament style play.
"Painful to walk but was healing OK." Let's face it the seven-player rotation we played the last couple of games is the rotation we will have in the Tournament.

Are those seven players good enough to win the whole thing? Yes. Should they be considered the favorites? Yes. Are we a lock to win it all? I thought we were with Cryer and JTT, but we now have no margin of error to counteract foul trouble or another injury.

If this group wins it all it is a better story than last year.
You can't be real. No one is ever "a lock to win it all."
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In reply to bear2be2 • 7:51a, 3/1/22
bear2be2 said:
BUCANDOIT82 said:
Quinton said:
Stefano DiMera said:
Sounds like Fran had a little insider info. A fracture in a different place than the screws

Doesn't expect him back.
Yep, didn't sound good. Then they brought in the sideline reporter who said it was painful to walk but was healing okay. Doesn't sound anything like pain threshold anymore. A new fracture that needs to heal.

But its been what a few weeks since the last action and then has 3 more weeks until the tourney. Puts him on the border at 5 weeks assuming the Tech game was a new break. Get through the first weekend and then your at 6 weeks since the last action which sounds doable based on complete spitballing here. Need him to repeat and not have the team gas out in tournament style play.
"Painful to walk but was healing OK." Let's face it the seven-player rotation we played the last couple of games is the rotation we will have in the Tournament.

Are those seven players good enough to win the whole thing? Yes. Should they be considered the favorites? Yes. Are we a lock to win it all? I thought we were with Cryer and JTT, but we now have no margin of error to counteract foul trouble or another injury.

If this group wins it all it is a better story than last year.
You can't be real. No one is ever "a lock to win it all."
Gonzaga was last year
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In reply to boognish_bear • 7:59a, 3/1/22
boognish_bear said:
bear2be2 said:
BUCANDOIT82 said:
Quinton said:
Stefano DiMera said:
Sounds like Fran had a little insider info. A fracture in a different place than the screws

Doesn't expect him back.
Yep, didn't sound good. Then they brought in the sideline reporter who said it was painful to walk but was healing okay. Doesn't sound anything like pain threshold anymore. A new fracture that needs to heal.

But its been what a few weeks since the last action and then has 3 more weeks until the tourney. Puts him on the border at 5 weeks assuming the Tech game was a new break. Get through the first weekend and then your at 6 weeks since the last action which sounds doable based on complete spitballing here. Need him to repeat and not have the team gas out in tournament style play.
"Painful to walk but was healing OK." Let's face it the seven-player rotation we played the last couple of games is the rotation we will have in the Tournament.

Are those seven players good enough to win the whole thing? Yes. Should they be considered the favorites? Yes. Are we a lock to win it all? I thought we were with Cryer and JTT, but we now have no margin of error to counteract foul trouble or another injury.

If this group wins it all it is a better story than last year.
You can't be real. No one is ever "a lock to win it all."
Gonzaga was last year
You're making my point.
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In reply to bear2be2 • 8:37a, 3/1/22
bear2be2 said:
boognish_bear said:
bear2be2 said:
BUCANDOIT82 said:
Quinton said:
Stefano DiMera said:
Sounds like Fran had a little insider info. A fracture in a different place than the screws

Doesn't expect him back.
Yep, didn't sound good. Then they brought in the sideline reporter who said it was painful to walk but was healing okay. Doesn't sound anything like pain threshold anymore. A new fracture that needs to heal.

But its been what a few weeks since the last action and then has 3 more weeks until the tourney. Puts him on the border at 5 weeks assuming the Tech game was a new break. Get through the first weekend and then your at 6 weeks since the last action which sounds doable based on complete spitballing here. Need him to repeat and not have the team gas out in tournament style play.
"Painful to walk but was healing OK." Let's face it the seven-player rotation we played the last couple of games is the rotation we will have in the Tournament.

Are those seven players good enough to win the whole thing? Yes. Should they be considered the favorites? Yes. Are we a lock to win it all? I thought we were with Cryer and JTT, but we now have no margin of error to counteract foul trouble or another injury.

If this group wins it all it is a better story than last year.
You can't be real. No one is ever "a lock to win it all."
Gonzaga was last year
You're making my point.
Yep...that was my attempt at humor
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In reply to boognish_bear • 8:44a, 3/1/22
boognish_bear said:
bear2be2 said:
boognish_bear said:
bear2be2 said:
BUCANDOIT82 said:
Quinton said:
Stefano DiMera said:
Sounds like Fran had a little insider info. A fracture in a different place than the screws

Doesn't expect him back.
Yep, didn't sound good. Then they brought in the sideline reporter who said it was painful to walk but was healing okay. Doesn't sound anything like pain threshold anymore. A new fracture that needs to heal.

But its been what a few weeks since the last action and then has 3 more weeks until the tourney. Puts him on the border at 5 weeks assuming the Tech game was a new break. Get through the first weekend and then your at 6 weeks since the last action which sounds doable based on complete spitballing here. Need him to repeat and not have the team gas out in tournament style play.
"Painful to walk but was healing OK." Let's face it the seven-player rotation we played the last couple of games is the rotation we will have in the Tournament.

Are those seven players good enough to win the whole thing? Yes. Should they be considered the favorites? Yes. Are we a lock to win it all? I thought we were with Cryer and JTT, but we now have no margin of error to counteract foul trouble or another injury.

If this group wins it all it is a better story than last year.
You can't be real. No one is ever "a lock to win it all."
Gonzaga was last year
You're making my point.
Yep...that was my attempt at humor
Gotcha.
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In reply to bear2be2 • 8:55a, 3/1/22
We were a lock last year. Did you not watch the Tournament? We didn't upset Gonzaga because we were always better. When we played them last year we had 7 of the 8 best athletes on the floor.

I am serious when I say with LJ and JTT we would be a lock to win it all. Without them we are just the favorite to win it all.
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In reply to BUCANDOIT82 • 9:15a, 3/1/22
BUCANDOIT82 said:
We were a lock last year. Did you not watch the Tournament? We didn't upset Gonzaga because we were always better. When we played them last year we had 7 of the 8 best athletes on the floor.

I am serious when I say with LJ and JTT we would be a lock to win it all. Without them we are just the favorite to win it all.
We were not a lock. That's stupid. We trailed Villanova by seven at halftime and were locked in a dogfight with Arkansas late in that game. If we don't play well down the stretch in those games, we could have seen our dream season end in the Sweet Sixteen or Elite Eight.

There are no locks in the NCAA tournament. Anyone can be upset at any time.
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In reply to bear2be2 • 9:30a, 3/1/22
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boognish_bear said:
Guys. ADAM FLAGLER IS OUR LEADING SCORER NOW. He has been for three games.

Update this narrative.
For the last couple of weeks at least Adam is the mvp in the Big 12.
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In reply to bear2be2 • 9:34a, 3/1/22
You're trying to be rational with an irrational poster in BUCAN good luck to you
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In reply to Stefano DiMera • 9:46a, 3/1/22
That I can believe. I am still floored by the fact that Bill Self has only lost 16 times in Lawrence during his 19 years there.

16 TIMES!!!!
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In reply to historian • 10:30a, 3/1/22
An amazing stat is Scott Drew would have to 320-0 in his next 320 games and he would still be a game behind Self's record.

Level 1 violations and toupee aside..he's a helluva coach.
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In reply to historian • 11:00a, 3/1/22
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That I can believe. I am still floored by the fact that Bill Self has only lost 16 times in Lawrence during his 19 years there.

16 TIMES!!!!
Phog Allen is arguably the greatest home court advantage west of the Oval Office.
Bill Self is arguably as good a regular season coach as there has ever been.
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In reply to bear2be2 • 11:18a, 3/1/22
I am not saying it is correct to label him as the leading scorer, I was just giving the reasoning that announcers use that language. I also don't think it is necessarily incorrect to say we are without our leading scorer, he was at the time of going out, so it's not like he is not scoring in games he is playing. Anyway, I don't it's worth my time to argue a moot point, but I don't think it is "disrespectful" to our other players by labeling him our leading scorer. I hope he can come back for the tourney, it is not a need right now. We win the ISU game and our seed should be locked at 1. Much like last year, I don't think exiting out of the big 12 tourney is such a bad thing. We need the rest and recovery more than ever.
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In reply to TXBEAR_bf • 11:25a, 3/1/22
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I am not saying it is correct to label him as the leading scorer, I was just giving the reasoning that announcers use that language. I also don't think it is necessarily incorrect to say we are without our leading scorer, he was at the time of going out, so it's not like he is not scoring in games he is playing. Anyway, I don't it's worth my time to argue a moot point, but I don't think it is "disrespectful" to our other players by labeling him our leading scorer. I hope he can come back for the tourney, it is not a need right now. We win the ISU game and our seed should be locked at 1. Much like last year, I don't think exiting out of the big 12 tourney is such a bad thing. We need the rest and recovery more than ever.
It's just a silly, misleading narrative IMO. Akinjo was our leading scorer for a long time -- much longer than Cryer was. It would be silly to refer to him as our leading scorer now. Scoring averages aren't static figures, and Flagler is now averaging more points per game than Cryer did at any point this season. It's simply inaccurate to call Cryer our leading scorer at this point.

I'd have no problem if people would say, "He was the Bears' leading scorer when he went down." That would be accurate. Continuing to refer to him as our leading scorer when any stat sheet would show he's not -- and hasn't been in three games -- makes no sense.
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11:33a, 3/1/22
Hey… to bring everyone back to the same page….

TEXAS SUCKS!!!
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11:34a, 3/1/22
Baylor 5-0 vs Texas in Football, M-Basketball, W-Basketball!!!
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BUCANDOIT82 said:
We were a lock last year. Did you not watch the Tournament? We didn't upset Gonzaga because we were always better. When we played them last year we had 7 of the 8 best athletes on the floor.

I am serious when I say with LJ and JTT we would be a lock to win it all. Without them we are just the favorite to win it all.
We were not a lock. That's stupid. We trailed Villanova by seven at halftime and were locked in a dogfight with Arkansas late in that game. If we don't play well down the stretch in those games, we could have seen our dream season end in the Sweet Sixteen or Elite Eight.

There are no locks in the NCAA tournament. Anyone can be upset at any time.


I agree there is no lock but in a dogfight with Arky? Please we ran them to 20 then slacked a bit and they came within 10 after some last minute shots. Nova I always have respect for and we were shooting terribly the first half and was down 7. Everyone knew the shooting had to improve, Scott didn't chance it and attacked the basket as that was our clear advantage. It helped we went elite on defense and Superman on like 4 straight possessions.
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1:29p, 3/1/22
From the 10:11 mark in the 2nd half to the 4:55 mark, it was never more than a 4, 5 or 6 point lead. (vs. Ark)
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BUCANDOIT82 said:
Quinton said:
Stefano DiMera said:
Sounds like Fran had a little insider info. A fracture in a different place than the screws

Doesn't expect him back.
Yep, didn't sound good. Then they brought in the sideline reporter who said it was painful to walk but was healing okay. Doesn't sound anything like pain threshold anymore. A new fracture that needs to heal.

But its been what a few weeks since the last action and then has 3 more weeks until the tourney. Puts him on the border at 5 weeks assuming the Tech game was a new break. Get through the first weekend and then your at 6 weeks since the last action which sounds doable based on complete spitballing here. Need him to repeat and not have the team gas out in tournament style play.
"Painful to walk but was healing OK." Let's face it the seven-player rotation we played the last couple of games is the rotation we will have in the Tournament.

Are those seven players good enough to win the whole thing? Yes. Should they be considered the favorites? Yes. Are we a lock to win it all? I thought we were with Cryer and JTT, but we now have no margin of error to counteract foul trouble or another injury.

If this group wins it all it is a better story than last year.

If this team wins it all it most certainly will be a better story than last year. Given all the changes, injuries and setbacks it will be nothing short of a miracle and Scott Drew will be universally labeled a genius and rightfully so. Under such circumstances he will be the obvious CoY.
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In reply to Oso del lago • 2:48p, 3/1/22
Big-O!-Bear said:
bear2be2 said:
BUCANDOIT82 said:
We were a lock last year. Did you not watch the Tournament? We didn't upset Gonzaga because we were always better. When we played them last year we had 7 of the 8 best athletes on the floor.

I am serious when I say with LJ and JTT we would be a lock to win it all. Without them we are just the favorite to win it all.
We were not a lock. That's stupid. We trailed Villanova by seven at halftime and were locked in a dogfight with Arkansas late in that game. If we don't play well down the stretch in those games, we could have seen our dream season end in the Sweet Sixteen or Elite Eight.

There are no locks in the NCAA tournament. Anyone can be upset at any time.


I agree there is no lock but in a dogfight with Arky? Please we ran them to 20 then slacked a bit and they came within 10 after some last minute shots. Nova I always have respect for and we were shooting terribly the first half and was down 7. Everyone knew the shooting had to improve, Scott didn't chance it and attacked the basket as that was our clear advantage. It helped we went elite on defense and Superman on like 4 straight possessions.
You are misremembering the Arkansas game. We got off to a great start, but that was a four-point game with 7 1/2 minutes left and we were still only up six inside five minutes.
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In reply to boognish_bear • 3:26p, 3/1/22
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Glad Adam is getting the recognition he deserves!! He's been my favorite player all season. He's come in clutch for us in so many games.
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boognish_bear said:


Glad Adam is getting the recognition he deserves!! He's been my favorite player all season. He's come in clutch for us in so many games.


He had ice in his veins last night. Silent assassin.
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3:46p, 3/1/22
Flagler back in his groove again after a rough stretch where Akinjo was injured and he was forced to play PG. Now playing 100% off the ball again, looks healthy and thriving in his role.
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In reply to Crawfoso1973 • 4:43p, 3/1/22
His pull-up 18 footer is a thing of beauty.
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5:41p, 3/1/22
As much as I loved Flagler's play (and always do), the shot that got me most excited of all last night was the quick-off-the-dribble, one hand (left-hand) lane runner by Akinjo over a Texas big, which was the FIRST time since December that Akinjo looked like the early season All American that he was selected.

If you don't have a PG performing at a high level in the NCAAs, you will make a quick exit. That standard has stood the test of time for decades.
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