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Gameday Thread: Baylor (6-5) faces Texas (7-4) in regular season finale

November 24, 2022
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The Baylor Bears (6-5) wrap up the regular season against Texas (7-4) on Friday morning in Austin. Kickoff is set for 11 a.m. CT and will be aired live on ESPN. 


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Quotes of the Week

Senior Defensive Lineman TJ Franklin

"The focus is still where it needs to be. I mean, [the staff] have done a good job by making us practice in the morning and giving us the extra time in the evening to either get extra film or take care of our bodies, do anything that we need to do to be like our final preparation for the game, so that's a big help." 

Senior Offensive Lineman Jacob Gall

"That's something we've been talking about all week and I think the thing we really come back to is that this is another chance for us to prove ourselves," Gall said. "Everybody that's kind of still been doubting us all season after the start or after any loss we've had, this is still another chance to prove to everybody the team that we actually are.""

Head Coach Dave Aranda

"I think we're stronger for it. And I think we're probably a closer team now than we were just two weeks ago. I think you find out so much about yourself, especially when there's trials, tribulations, and all of it. And when people can fully put their heart out there and then have it crushed at the end, I think it's so vulnerable to do that. And for guys to do that. And then to make the decision here to do it, again, I think, speaks to just a strong growth of the team. And we're aiming to do that."


Analysis of the Week

SicEm365 Analyst Travis Roeder

What an impossible game to predict. From a pure quality standpoint, I think this is a toss-up game. What makes it so difficult is you have to predict the team’s energy, focus, and desire. Texas still has a lot to play for (they can make the title game if they beat Baylor and Kansas beats K-State). Baylor spent themselves emotionally against TCU. Were they able to recover and gin up enough energy to one of the three best teams they’ve played this year, and play them on the road?

Baylor has the talent to make Texas one-dimensional in this game by relatively shutting down Bijan and forcing Ewers to beat them consistently. That’s Baylor’s path to winning. If they really shut down Texas’ run game like TCU was able to, Baylor can hold Texas under 24 points. We’ll see what version of Baylor’s defense we get tomorrow.

 


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Gameday Thread: Baylor (6-5) faces Texas (7-4) in regular season finale

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MarcelloSwisher
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This team goes 9-3 or 8-4 at the very worst with GB at QB

We still lose to Oklahoma State, K-State & probably today. Maybe the BYU game too.
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IvanBear said:

MarcelloSwisher said:

Plays that lost us the game:

First drive: Ellis wide open for a touchdown. Shapen under-throws him. Totally haven't seen that before. Should be 7-0 right off the first drive.

3rd drive: Texas wakes up and completely carves up our defense to make it 9-7 then we go 3 & out and have an 11 yard punt. Texas promptly takes a 14-9 lead 3 plays later. Special teams continue to be not so special.

4th drive: we have an 18 play drive that takes 8 1/2 minutes off the clock and all is looking great till the handoff to Reese gets fumbled and we have to settle for a field goal. Went for it twice on 4th down on that drive and yeah we got points but damn did it hurt to only get three.

2nd drive of the 2nd half: clinging to 2 point lead. Use a 13 play drive to get to the 22 only to miss a field goal just like last week.

4th drive of the 2nd half: Robinson runs it down our throat & Texas scores to take back the lead after Gabe Halls fumble return TD. Offense comes back on the field needing a score to take back the lead & Blake throws an awful interception. Texas gets it right back again at our 42 and score a few plays later to put it away.

Bonus plays: Grimes calling slip screens for no gain on 3rd & 1 and running it up the middle into the teeth of the defense on 3rd & 8 somebody please hire this man as a head coach & get him out of town.

50% completion ain't gonna get it done. Whole reason BS was picked over GB is because he "opened up the passing game" yet our passing game has been just as abysmal as last year if not worse and on top of that we don't have the rushing threat that we had with Gerry in the game. I love Shapen and he's a good dude but when your coming off a Big 12 title, Sugar Bowl Championship & your literal best season in school history, you don't make a QB switch unless you have a legit game changing baller coming in. Blake has not been that guy.



As much as I'll disgusted by Shapen's effort the last 3 games, I can't disagree with you more. GB didn't lead us to the bowl game, he didn't stay healthy the most important part of the season and this board has mass amnesia of that fact. GB looked even worse away from our offense than he did in it, that's not a good sign there would have been any improvement. GB is hands down the worst passer to start as a baylor QB in the last decade and a half. He could run but that one trick pony won't get you championships.



I hope you are not insinuating that Shapen Is a better overall passer than Bohannon. Quite an assertion if true.
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IvanBear said:

MarcelloSwisher said:

Plays that lost us the game:

First drive: Ellis wide open for a touchdown. Shapen under-throws him. Totally haven't seen that before. Should be 7-0 right off the first drive.

3rd drive: Texas wakes up and completely carves up our defense to make it 9-7 then we go 3 & out and have an 11 yard punt. Texas promptly takes a 14-9 lead 3 plays later. Special teams continue to be not so special.

4th drive: we have an 18 play drive that takes 8 1/2 minutes off the clock and all is looking great till the handoff to Reese gets fumbled and we have to settle for a field goal. Went for it twice on 4th down on that drive and yeah we got points but damn did it hurt to only get three.

2nd drive of the 2nd half: clinging to 2 point lead. Use a 13 play drive to get to the 22 only to miss a field goal just like last week.

4th drive of the 2nd half: Robinson runs it down our throat & Texas scores to take back the lead after Gabe Halls fumble return TD. Offense comes back on the field needing a score to take back the lead & Blake throws an awful interception. Texas gets it right back again at our 42 and score a few plays later to put it away.

Bonus plays: Grimes calling slip screens for no gain on 3rd & 1 and running it up the middle into the teeth of the defense on 3rd & 8 somebody please hire this man as a head coach & get him out of town.

50% completion ain't gonna get it done. Whole reason BS was picked over GB is because he "opened up the passing game" yet our passing game has been just as abysmal as last year if not worse and on top of that we don't have the rushing threat that we had with Gerry in the game. I love Shapen and he's a good dude but when your coming off a Big 12 title, Sugar Bowl Championship & your literal best season in school history, you don't make a QB switch unless you have a legit game changing baller coming in. Blake has not been that guy.



As much as I'll disgusted by Shapen's effort the last 3 games, I can't disagree with you more. GB didn't lead us to the bowl game, he didn't stay healthy the most important part of the season and this board has mass amnesia of that fact. GB looked even worse away from our offense than he did in it, that's not a good sign there would have been any improvement. GB is hands down the worst passer to start as a baylor QB in the last decade and a half. He could run but that one trick pony won't get you championships.

Would he get you better than 6-6?
MarcelloSwisher
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Yes I think he would without a doubt. I feel like we win the WVU & TCU games with Gerry for sure. Maybe the BYU game too. We would prob be 9-3 with losses to Texas, K-State & Oklahoma State
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Shapen is probably a nice young man but he needs to go play short stop and get the Bears to the CWW.
Grimes needs to go and Aranda needs to listen to himself more and not his coordinators.
Having said that, we lost to BYU because of a missed extra point. Game should've never gone to overtime. We probably would've beaten WVU and TCU if we make a field goal.
So many things need to be fixed. Let's hope they get fixed.
I'm still behind Aranda and hope he can turn it around but if, this time next year, we're still giving games away like we did this year, then he needs to go.
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Run Violent Offence- coaches don't choose our best running QB
Bigger Vertical Threat-coaches name the QB who can't throw a deep ball.

Living the American dream in central Texas !
Mitch Blood Green
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IvanBear said:

MarcelloSwisher said:

Plays that lost us the game:

First drive: Ellis wide open for a touchdown. Shapen under-throws him. Totally haven't seen that before. Should be 7-0 right off the first drive.

3rd drive: Texas wakes up and completely carves up our defense to make it 9-7 then we go 3 & out and have an 11 yard punt. Texas promptly takes a 14-9 lead 3 plays later. Special teams continue to be not so special.

4th drive: we have an 18 play drive that takes 8 1/2 minutes off the clock and all is looking great till the handoff to Reese gets fumbled and we have to settle for a field goal. Went for it twice on 4th down on that drive and yeah we got points but damn did it hurt to only get three.

2nd drive of the 2nd half: clinging to 2 point lead. Use a 13 play drive to get to the 22 only to miss a field goal just like last week.

4th drive of the 2nd half: Robinson runs it down our throat & Texas scores to take back the lead after Gabe Halls fumble return TD. Offense comes back on the field needing a score to take back the lead & Blake throws an awful interception. Texas gets it right back again at our 42 and score a few plays later to put it away.

Bonus plays: Grimes calling slip screens for no gain on 3rd & 1 and running it up the middle into the teeth of the defense on 3rd & 8 somebody please hire this man as a head coach & get him out of town.

50% completion ain't gonna get it done. Whole reason BS was picked over GB is because he "opened up the passing game" yet our passing game has been just as abysmal as last year if not worse and on top of that we don't have the rushing threat that we had with Gerry in the game. I love Shapen and he's a good dude but when your coming off a Big 12 title, Sugar Bowl Championship & your literal best season in school history, you don't make a QB switch unless you have a legit game changing baller coming in. Blake has not been that guy.



As much as I'll disgusted by Shapen's effort the last 3 games, I can't disagree with you more. GB didn't lead us to the bowl game, he didn't stay healthy the most important part of the season and this board has mass amnesia of that fact. GB looked even worse away from our offense than he did in it, that's not a good sign there would have been any improvement. GB is hands down the worst passer to start as a baylor QB in the last decade and a half. He could run but that one trick pony won't get you championships.


You're speculating. You don't have to. Charlie Brewer last year 2-7. Bohannon 12-2, Shapen 6-6.

I can't think of another program that sacks the 12-2 QB for the 6-6 QB.
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The Hound said:

IowaBear said:

"Blake Shspen gives us the best chance to win" said weeks ago Arabda was going down with the Shapen ship. Don't be shocked when Blake starts next year. Also that's int #11 that and like what 7 fumbles??


5-7 is going to be our ceiling next year with shapen as the starter. With a decent quarterback transfer, maybe 7-5. Losing the entire offensive and defensive line is going to hurt more than people think, particularly the people that want to blame Shapen's crappiness on the offensive line
Serious question since you have already stated how we will do next year.......what did you think our ceiling was in 2021 after going 2-7 in 2020? Please don't tell us 12-2. So, why be so emphatic on a record for next year? Some players, perhaps many unknown to the fans stepped up in 2021. Why doubt it doesn't happen in 2023?

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Mitch Blood Green said:

IvanBear said:

MarcelloSwisher said:

Plays that lost us the game:

First drive: Ellis wide open for a touchdown. Shapen under-throws him. Totally haven't seen that before. Should be 7-0 right off the first drive.

3rd drive: Texas wakes up and completely carves up our defense to make it 9-7 then we go 3 & out and have an 11 yard punt. Texas promptly takes a 14-9 lead 3 plays later. Special teams continue to be not so special.

4th drive: we have an 18 play drive that takes 8 1/2 minutes off the clock and all is looking great till the handoff to Reese gets fumbled and we have to settle for a field goal. Went for it twice on 4th down on that drive and yeah we got points but damn did it hurt to only get three.

2nd drive of the 2nd half: clinging to 2 point lead. Use a 13 play drive to get to the 22 only to miss a field goal just like last week.

4th drive of the 2nd half: Robinson runs it down our throat & Texas scores to take back the lead after Gabe Halls fumble return TD. Offense comes back on the field needing a score to take back the lead & Blake throws an awful interception. Texas gets it right back again at our 42 and score a few plays later to put it away.

Bonus plays: Grimes calling slip screens for no gain on 3rd & 1 and running it up the middle into the teeth of the defense on 3rd & 8 somebody please hire this man as a head coach & get him out of town.

50% completion ain't gonna get it done. Whole reason BS was picked over GB is because he "opened up the passing game" yet our passing game has been just as abysmal as last year if not worse and on top of that we don't have the rushing threat that we had with Gerry in the game. I love Shapen and he's a good dude but when your coming off a Big 12 title, Sugar Bowl Championship & your literal best season in school history, you don't make a QB switch unless you have a legit game changing baller coming in. Blake has not been that guy.



As much as I'll disgusted by Shapen's effort the last 3 games, I can't disagree with you more. GB didn't lead us to the bowl game, he didn't stay healthy the most important part of the season and this board has mass amnesia of that fact. GB looked even worse away from our offense than he did in it, that's not a good sign there would have been any improvement. GB is hands down the worst passer to start as a baylor QB in the last decade and a half. He could run but that one trick pony won't get you championships.


You're speculating. You don't have to. Charlie Brewer last year 2-7. Bohannon 12-2, Shapen 6-6.

I can't think of another program that sacks the 12-2 QB for the 6-6 QB.

That's because they don't exist
We're the only ones who needed to try this experiment
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blackie said:

The Hound said:

IowaBear said:

"Blake Shspen gives us the best chance to win" said weeks ago Arabda was going down with the Shapen ship. Don't be shocked when Blake starts next year. Also that's int #11 that and like what 7 fumbles??


5-7 is going to be our ceiling next year with shapen as the starter. With a decent quarterback transfer, maybe 7-5. Losing the entire offensive and defensive line is going to hurt more than people think, particularly the people that want to blame Shapen's crappiness on the offensive line
Serious question since you have already stated how we will do next year.......what did you think our ceiling was in 2021 after going 2-7 in 2020? Please don't tell us 12-2. So, why be so emphatic on a record for next year? Some players, perhaps many unknown to the fans stepped up in 2021. Why doubt it doesn't happen in 2023?




Burden of proof is on you to tell us why we'll be good
blackie
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The Hound said:

blackie said:

The Hound said:

IowaBear said:

"Blake Shspen gives us the best chance to win" said weeks ago Arabda was going down with the Shapen ship. Don't be shocked when Blake starts next year. Also that's int #11 that and like what 7 fumbles??


5-7 is going to be our ceiling next year with shapen as the starter. With a decent quarterback transfer, maybe 7-5. Losing the entire offensive and defensive line is going to hurt more than people think, particularly the people that want to blame Shapen's crappiness on the offensive line
Serious question since you have already stated how we will do next year.......what did you think our ceiling was in 2021 after going 2-7 in 2020? Please don't tell us 12-2. So, why be so emphatic on a record for next year? Some players, perhaps many unknown to the fans stepped up in 2021. Why doubt it doesn't happen in 2023?




Burden of proof is on you to tell us why we'll be good
Sorry, but I am not the one spouting off next year's record. I don't even know who we will be playing.....or where.....and with whom.
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PawpaBear
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Adversity is a great teacher. Just keep putting the work in and execute when your time comes!
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Mitch Blood Green said:

IvanBear said:

MarcelloSwisher said:

Plays that lost us the game:

First drive: Ellis wide open for a touchdown. Shapen under-throws him. Totally haven't seen that before. Should be 7-0 right off the first drive.

3rd drive: Texas wakes up and completely carves up our defense to make it 9-7 then we go 3 & out and have an 11 yard punt. Texas promptly takes a 14-9 lead 3 plays later. Special teams continue to be not so special.

4th drive: we have an 18 play drive that takes 8 1/2 minutes off the clock and all is looking great till the handoff to Reese gets fumbled and we have to settle for a field goal. Went for it twice on 4th down on that drive and yeah we got points but damn did it hurt to only get three.

2nd drive of the 2nd half: clinging to 2 point lead. Use a 13 play drive to get to the 22 only to miss a field goal just like last week.

4th drive of the 2nd half: Robinson runs it down our throat & Texas scores to take back the lead after Gabe Halls fumble return TD. Offense comes back on the field needing a score to take back the lead & Blake throws an awful interception. Texas gets it right back again at our 42 and score a few plays later to put it away.

Bonus plays: Grimes calling slip screens for no gain on 3rd & 1 and running it up the middle into the teeth of the defense on 3rd & 8 somebody please hire this man as a head coach & get him out of town.

50% completion ain't gonna get it done. Whole reason BS was picked over GB is because he "opened up the passing game" yet our passing game has been just as abysmal as last year if not worse and on top of that we don't have the rushing threat that we had with Gerry in the game. I love Shapen and he's a good dude but when your coming off a Big 12 title, Sugar Bowl Championship & your literal best season in school history, you don't make a QB switch unless you have a legit game changing baller coming in. Blake has not been that guy.



As much as I'll disgusted by Shapen's effort the last 3 games, I can't disagree with you more. GB didn't lead us to the bowl game, he didn't stay healthy the most important part of the season and this board has mass amnesia of that fact. GB looked even worse away from our offense than he did in it, that's not a good sign there would have been any improvement. GB is hands down the worst passer to start as a baylor QB in the last decade and a half. He could run but that one trick pony won't get you championships.


You're speculating. You don't have to. Charlie Brewer last year 2-7. Bohannon 12-2, Shapen 6-6.

I can't think of another program that sacks the 12-2 QB for the 6-6 QB.


When Blake Shapen wins was named the starting quarterback no one expected us to have a 6-6 season. In fact almost everybody who posted on his boards was extremely happy and saw him as an improvement over Gerry Bohanon. That was based almost solely on his performance in the Big 12 championship game. It was similar to Baylor fans who prematurely hoped Zeno would click replace Charlie Brewer.

Be careful what you wish for you might just get it.
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whitetrash
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boognish_bear said:


Did Shapen take a nasty hit from OU? I was thinking the WV dirty hit was the culprit, but he played with clarity against KU and Tech for sure.
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whitetrash said:

boognish_bear said:


Did Shapen take a nasty hit from OU? I was thinking the WV dirty hit was the culprit, but he played with clarity against KU and Tech for sure.

If that's the case he needs to be examined by a doctor every swinging time he steps off the field.
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Mitch Blood Green said:

IvanBear said:

MarcelloSwisher said:

Plays that lost us the game:

First drive: Ellis wide open for a touchdown. Shapen under-throws him. Totally haven't seen that before. Should be 7-0 right off the first drive.

3rd drive: Texas wakes up and completely carves up our defense to make it 9-7 then we go 3 & out and have an 11 yard punt. Texas promptly takes a 14-9 lead 3 plays later. Special teams continue to be not so special.

4th drive: we have an 18 play drive that takes 8 1/2 minutes off the clock and all is looking great till the handoff to Reese gets fumbled and we have to settle for a field goal. Went for it twice on 4th down on that drive and yeah we got points but damn did it hurt to only get three.

2nd drive of the 2nd half: clinging to 2 point lead. Use a 13 play drive to get to the 22 only to miss a field goal just like last week.

4th drive of the 2nd half: Robinson runs it down our throat & Texas scores to take back the lead after Gabe Halls fumble return TD. Offense comes back on the field needing a score to take back the lead & Blake throws an awful interception. Texas gets it right back again at our 42 and score a few plays later to put it away.

Bonus plays: Grimes calling slip screens for no gain on 3rd & 1 and running it up the middle into the teeth of the defense on 3rd & 8 somebody please hire this man as a head coach & get him out of town.

50% completion ain't gonna get it done. Whole reason BS was picked over GB is because he "opened up the passing game" yet our passing game has been just as abysmal as last year if not worse and on top of that we don't have the rushing threat that we had with Gerry in the game. I love Shapen and he's a good dude but when your coming off a Big 12 title, Sugar Bowl Championship & your literal best season in school history, you don't make a QB switch unless you have a legit game changing baller coming in. Blake has not been that guy.



As much as I'll disgusted by Shapen's effort the last 3 games, I can't disagree with you more. GB didn't lead us to the bowl game, he didn't stay healthy the most important part of the season and this board has mass amnesia of that fact. GB looked even worse away from our offense than he did in it, that's not a good sign there would have been any improvement. GB is hands down the worst passer to start as a baylor QB in the last decade and a half. He could run but that one trick pony won't get you championships.


You're speculating. You don't have to. Charlie Brewer last year 2-7. Bohannon 12-2, Shapen 6-6.

I can't think of another program that sacks the 12-2 QB for the 6-6 QB.
in the stonecutters tune...we doooooo, we dooooo
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greggor25 said:

Shapen = Charlie Brewer 2.0
People need to stop making this comparison. Other than a striking physical resemblance, those two players are nothing alike.

Charlie was physically limited but was fearless and played to win at all times. Blake has all the physical tools you could want and plays like he's afraid of his shadow.

This comparison needs to be retired ... at least until Blake puts up a season like Charlie had in 2019.
 
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