Looks like we are sticking with the hand off, hand off, sack offense.
I felt like with Robertson we at least had a chance to move the ball in the air with the threat of the QB running the ball.
On Tuesday in a morning press conference, Baylor head football coach Dave Aranda officially named junior quarterback Blake Shapen as the starting quarterback for the upcoming 2023 football season. The decision was made in the days following the conclusion of spring football practice, although no formal announcement was made at that time.
Shapen started all 13 games for Baylor as a sophomore in the 2022 season and threw for 2,790 yards, 18 touchdowns, and 10 interceptions, while completing 63.3% of his passes.
The competition for the starting quarterback position was tight, as Mississippi State sophomore transfer quarterback was also vying for the role. However, Aranda ultimately chose Shapen as the quarterback to lead the team into the upcoming season stating that it was Shapen’s team and the staff wanted to give him a chance to lead it.
Shapen's experience and ability to command were likely significant factor in the coaching staff's decision. Despite ups and downs, his performance in his first two seasons of playing time demonstrated his potential to lead the team to success, and the coaching staff believes that he has the skills necessary to continue his development and make an even greater impact in the 2023 season.
The announcement of Shapen as the starting quarterback provides clarity and stability to the team as they prepare for the upcoming season. With a remade offensive line, several new transfers coming in at the skill positions on the offensive side of ball who are expected to make big impacts, the progress of Shapen will be one of the final variables in Baylor improving on a tough season where the Bears finished 2022 with a 6-7 record.
IowaBear said:
Real head scratcher naming a starter this early. Blake's ceiling is extremely low. He may improve but that's not saying a ton. Hopefully Sawyer gets a shot at some point
Ridiculous statements by Dave....frankly, his job needs to be on the line this year as well.No Quarterback said:
Notice the language that Dave uses for Shapen. It's not that he looked great and won the job, it's that "we want him to continue to develop, the team is comfortable with him, it's 'his team' (what does that mean? It's not like the guy is George Patton, he's pretty soft spoken). Again, I mentioned this at the end of the season, but we are seeing a degree of sunk cost fallacy with Shapen. Just continue to give him time and let him develop and he will eventually turn into….I guess Zach Wilson? I'm honestly don't know what the vision is there, and I'm not sure the coaches actually know either
BluesBear said:Ridiculous statements by Dave....frankly, his job needs to be on the line this year as well.No Quarterback said:
Notice the language that Dave uses for Shapen. It's not that he looked great and won the job, it's that "we want him to continue to develop, the team is comfortable with him, it's 'his team' (what does that mean? It's not like the guy is George Patton, he's pretty soft spoken). Again, I mentioned this at the end of the season, but we are seeing a degree of sunk cost fallacy with Shapen. Just continue to give him time and let him develop and he will eventually turn into….I guess Zach Wilson? I'm honestly don't know what the vision is there, and I'm not sure the coaches actually know either
PartyBear said:
Would agree except it depends on how many fewer games than 7 wins for me. The XII title and Sugar Bowl win still have some good will for me. If we win 6 for example I'm fine with another year but that year 5 needs to be special to continue on.
No Quarterback said:BluesBear said:Ridiculous statements by Dave....frankly, his job needs to be on the line this year as well.No Quarterback said:
Notice the language that Dave uses for Shapen. It's not that he looked great and won the job, it's that "we want him to continue to develop, the team is comfortable with him, it's 'his team' (what does that mean? It's not like the guy is George Patton, he's pretty soft spoken). Again, I mentioned this at the end of the season, but we are seeing a degree of sunk cost fallacy with Shapen. Just continue to give him time and let him develop and he will eventually turn into….I guess Zach Wilson? I'm honestly don't know what the vision is there, and I'm not sure the coaches actually know either
<7 wins I think he needs to be let go. I like the guy, but if you don't have a quarterback, you don't have anything in the modern game of football.
boognish_bear said:No Quarterback said:BluesBear said:Ridiculous statements by Dave....frankly, his job needs to be on the line this year as well.No Quarterback said:
Notice the language that Dave uses for Shapen. It's not that he looked great and won the job, it's that "we want him to continue to develop, the team is comfortable with him, it's 'his team' (what does that mean? It's not like the guy is George Patton, he's pretty soft spoken). Again, I mentioned this at the end of the season, but we are seeing a degree of sunk cost fallacy with Shapen. Just continue to give him time and let him develop and he will eventually turn into….I guess Zach Wilson? I'm honestly don't know what the vision is there, and I'm not sure the coaches actually know either
<7 wins I think he needs to be let go. I like the guy, but if you don't have a quarterback, you don't have anything in the modern game of football.
Aranda himself acknowledged mistakes with how he handled the team last year. He's said he's learned from those mistakes.
This is a really big year for him in my opinion for us to see what we have in Aranda. I like him and hope we see improvement.
He's rolling the dice with letting go of Roberts (who Auburn scooped up pretty quickly) and sticking with Shapen. Time will tell if he's making the right decisions.
Shapen, for sure if nothing else, is injury prone. Sawyer should have his opportunity.BluesBear said:
Sawyer - - Don't you go anywhere. You will see the field this year.......Dave, you basically passed on a Mike Leach QB recruit...Think about that one...
No Quarterback said:PartyBear said:
Would agree except it depends on how many fewer games than 7 wins for me. The XII title and Sugar Bowl win still have some good will for me. If we win 6 for example I'm fine with another year but that year 5 needs to be special to continue on.
The sugar bowl bought a lot of goodwill for me as well, but bear in mind that it was done largely with Rhule's recruits. I think in year four of a coach's tenure, there should be a quarterback that they've recruited, developed, and is showing potential to take the reins. If there isn't, maybe it isn't a death sentence for that coach's tenure, but it is a red flag
This is the part I don't get. I'm not surprised Shapen is the guy, I just struggle to see the need or urgency to decide that now.IowaBear said:
Real head scratcher naming a starter this early. Blake's ceiling is extremely low. He may improve but that's not saying a ton. Hopefully Sawyer gets a shot at some point
Pastorron said:
Aranda is a fine coach. Why is it that so many sideline critics always know so much which in real life know so little? Play the games and see what happens. I expect Aranda will be at Baylor as long as he wants to be at Baylor.
Fre3dombear said:No Quarterback said:PartyBear said:
Would agree except it depends on how many fewer games than 7 wins for me. The XII title and Sugar Bowl win still have some good will for me. If we win 6 for example I'm fine with another year but that year 5 needs to be special to continue on.
The sugar bowl bought a lot of goodwill for me as well, but bear in mind that it was done largely with Rhule's recruits. I think in year four of a coach's tenure, there should be a quarterback that they've recruited, developed, and is showing potential to take the reins. If there isn't, maybe it isn't a death sentence for that coach's tenure, but it is a red flag
And that sugar bowl was won with players Dave largely didn't recruit and by a DC that was fired 4 months ago
Person over player
Let's do this
Well....Aranda has criticized Aranda. I think there have been some issues.....but he's also a first time HC finding his way. There will be some growing pains.Pastorron said:
Aranda is a fine coach. Why is it that so many sideline critics always know so much which in real life know so little? Play the games and see what happens. I expect Aranda will be at Baylor as long as he wants to be at Baylor.
That's a really cold take.BaylorLit 01 said:
My lasting impression of last season was getting embarrassed by a military school in a bottom tier bowl played on our rival's field while they were getting ready for a National Championship game.
So yea, let's roll that back and do it again. Smh