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Evangel Christian Academy (LA) Offensive Lineman Tristan Santoro Commits to Baylor

June 25, 2023
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Shreveport (LA) Evangel Christian Academy 2024 offensive lineman Tristan Santoro‍ has given his commitment to Baylor immediately after his official visit. He becomes commit No. 9 in the 2024 class and the second offensive lineman joining Koltin Sieracki‍.

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“What stands out to me is always the emphasis on family and person over player mentality that’s interwoven with faith among the staff at Baylor,” Santoro said following his Junior Day visit in March.

The 6-foot-6, 275-pound prospect attended Baylor’s Summer Camp last weekend as he was able to compete while also learning from Eric Mateos and Jeff Grimes. He showed the staff what they wanted to see before he made a return trip to Waco for his official visit this weekend.

Santoro chose Baylor over offers from Tulane, Memphis, Louisiana Tech, Texas Southern, UL-Monroe, Middle Tennessee State, and Louisiana.

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6:26p, 6/25/23
Why are we his only P5 offer?
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In reply to Daveisabovereproach • 8:19p, 6/25/23
No Quarterback said:
Why are we his only P5 offer?


Players get more offers over time, so that would only be a sign of concern in December or January when there is no (realistic) time for more P5 offers. To that end, who knows what his final offer sheet will look like, but his 247 rating suggests that he will receive other P5 offers and Baylor would have to fight to keep him (higher composite rating than Baylor's average rating for 2023 recruiting class).

Separately, Baylor will probably end up with several players whose offer sheets don't jump off the page, and those occurrences will increase as UH gets settled and if/when SMU is elevated. It is what it is, so Baylor can only hope to fill in the major gaps via the transfer portal.
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In reply to Aberzombie1892 • 9:10p, 6/25/23
Aberzombie1892 said:
No Quarterback said:
Why are we his only P5 offer?


Players get more offers over time, so that would only be a sign of concern in December or January when there is no (realistic) time for more P5 offers. To that end, knows what his final offer sheet will look like, but his 247 rating suggests that he will receive other P5 offers and Baylor would have to fight to keep him (higher composite rating than Baylor's average rating for 2023 recruiting class).

Separately, Baylor will probably end up with several players whose offer sheets don't jump off the page, and those occurrences will increase as UH gets settled and if/when SMU is elevated. It is what it is, so Baylor can only hope to fill in the major gaps via the transfer portal.


Although optimistic. That's not true. He's not getting P5 looks because he's not playing P5 competition.

Sorry, but this class feels like a Guy Morris or Kevin Steele class where somehow, we feel like we know something other coaches don't. A class can have one or two projects. It can't have one or two P5 level talents.
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In reply to Aberzombie1892 • 9:14p, 6/25/23
Aberzombie1892 said:
No Quarterback said:
Why are we his only P5 offer?


Players get more offers over time, so that would only be a sign of concern in December or January when there is no (realistic) time for more P5 offers. To that end, knows what his final offer sheet will look like, but his 247 rating suggests that he will receive other P5 offers and Baylor would have to fight to keep him (higher composite rating than Baylor's average rating for 2023 recruiting class).

Separately, Baylor will probably end up with several players whose offer sheets don't jump off the page, and those occurrences will increase as UH gets settled and if/when SMU is elevated. It is what it is, so Baylor can only hope to fill in the major gaps via the transfer portal.


That makes sense. The fact is, the game threads come alive with people coming out of the woodwork during games when we're losing, and people wonder why we have seasons like we did last year. But people who have been following our recruiting cannot deny that we get a lot of commits early in the recruitment process where we are the player's best offer, and we hope that the player then explodes AFTER we land the commitment and then hope that we can hold onto the player in the ensuing race to the finish. The quarterback in this class is another example. Like you said, it is what it is. I get that we are being hurt by NIL
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In reply to Mitch Blood Green • 9:47p, 6/25/23
Mitch Blood Green said:
Aberzombie1892 said:
No Quarterback said:
Why are we his only P5 offer?


Players get more offers over time, so that would only be a sign of concern in December or January when there is no (realistic) time for more P5 offers. To that end, knows what his final offer sheet will look like, but his 247 rating suggests that he will receive other P5 offers and Baylor would have to fight to keep him (higher composite rating than Baylor's average rating for 2023 recruiting class).

Separately, Baylor will probably end up with several players whose offer sheets don't jump off the page, and those occurrences will increase as UH gets settled and if/when SMU is elevated. It is what it is, so Baylor can only hope to fill in the major gaps via the transfer portal.


Although optimistic. That's not true. He's not getting P5 looks because he's not playing P5 competition.

Sorry, but this class feels like a Guy Morris or Kevin Steele class where somehow, we feel like we know something other coaches don't. A class can have one or two projects. It can't have one or two P5 level talents.


Which part isn't true? He's currently an 87.5 on the 247 composite rankings and Baylor's overall (high school plus transfer) ranking for its 2023 class is currently 87.48, so it's not as if he's of a lower quality than what Baylor signs (for reference, Baylor's 2022 overall class was 87.43 and it's 2021 class was 86.99).
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In reply to Mitch Blood Green • 9:54p, 6/25/23
Mitch Blood Green said:
Aberzombie1892 said:
No Quarterback said:
Why are we his only P5 offer?


Players get more offers over time, so that would only be a sign of concern in December or January when there is no (realistic) time for more P5 offers. To that end, knows what his final offer sheet will look like, but his 247 rating suggests that he will receive other P5 offers and Baylor would have to fight to keep him (higher composite rating than Baylor's average rating for 2023 recruiting class).

Separately, Baylor will probably end up with several players whose offer sheets don't jump off the page, and those occurrences will increase as UH gets settled and if/when SMU is elevated. It is what it is, so Baylor can only hope to fill in the major gaps via the transfer portal.


Although optimistic. That's not true. He's not getting P5 looks because he's not playing P5 competition.

Sorry, but this class feels like a Guy Morris or Kevin Steele class where somehow, we feel like we know something other coaches don't. A class can have one or two projects. It can't have one or two P5 level talents.


This is kind of where I'm at. Our recruiting does not seem to be trending up. This upcoming year is probably going to shape the foreseeable future for us. If we do poorly (like less than seven wins), I really think it's time for a changing of the guard. We already squandered our chance to strike while the iron was hot
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In reply to Aberzombie1892 • 9:55p, 6/25/23
Aberzombie1892 said:
Mitch Blood Green said:
Aberzombie1892 said:
No Quarterback said:
Why are we his only P5 offer?


Players get more offers over time, so that would only be a sign of concern in December or January when there is no (realistic) time for more P5 offers. To that end, knows what his final offer sheet will look like, but his 247 rating suggests that he will receive other P5 offers and Baylor would have to fight to keep him (higher composite rating than Baylor's average rating for 2023 recruiting class).

Separately, Baylor will probably end up with several players whose offer sheets don't jump off the page, and those occurrences will increase as UH gets settled and if/when SMU is elevated. It is what it is, so Baylor can only hope to fill in the major gaps via the transfer portal.


Although optimistic. That's not true. He's not getting P5 looks because he's not playing P5 competition.

Sorry, but this class feels like a Guy Morris or Kevin Steele class where somehow, we feel like we know something other coaches don't. A class can have one or two projects. It can't have one or two P5 level talents.


Which part isn't true? He's currently an 87.5 on the 247 composite rankings and Baylor's overall (high school plus transfer) ranking for its 2023 class is currently 87.48, so it's not as if he's of a lower quality than what Baylor signs (for reference, Baylor's 2022 overall class was 87.43 and it's 2021 class was 86.99).


Although you're correct that over time players get more offers, you're incorrect that he will get more O5 offers. Why? Because signing day has shifted from February to December.

That change in the calendar timeline means that your hypothesis applies to 2025 recruits, not 2024.
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In reply to Mitch Blood Green • 10:35p, 6/25/23
Mitch Blood Green said:
Aberzombie1892 said:
Mitch Blood Green said:
Aberzombie1892 said:
No Quarterback said:
Why are we his only P5 offer?


Players get more offers over time, so that would only be a sign of concern in December or January when there is no (realistic) time for more P5 offers. To that end, knows what his final offer sheet will look like, but his 247 rating suggests that he will receive other P5 offers and Baylor would have to fight to keep him (higher composite rating than Baylor's average rating for 2023 recruiting class).

Separately, Baylor will probably end up with several players whose offer sheets don't jump off the page, and those occurrences will increase as UH gets settled and if/when SMU is elevated. It is what it is, so Baylor can only hope to fill in the major gaps via the transfer portal.


Although optimistic. That's not true. He's not getting P5 looks because he's not playing P5 competition.

Sorry, but this class feels like a Guy Morris or Kevin Steele class where somehow, we feel like we know something other coaches don't. A class can have one or two projects. It can't have one or two P5 level talents.


Which part isn't true? He's currently an 87.5 on the 247 composite rankings and Baylor's overall (high school plus transfer) ranking for its 2023 class is currently 87.48, so it's not as if he's of a lower quality than what Baylor signs (for reference, Baylor's 2022 overall class was 87.43 and it's 2021 class was 86.99).


Although you're correct that over time players get more offers, you're incorrect that he will get more O5 offers. Why? Because signing day has shifted from February to December.

That change in the calendar timeline means that your hypothesis applies to 2025 recruits, not 2024.


I'm not sure that that makes it incorrect, as there is still plenty of time for him to get more offers and it's unlikely that he won't get more P5 offers unless he completely shuts down his recruitment (no texts, calls, visits, etc.) as his rating isn't objectively bad and he plays a position of need at the highest levels (OL) (or unless he has a scandal, is seriously injured, retires from football, or his rating falls off a cliff).
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In reply to Aberzombie1892 • 2:10a, 6/26/23
Aberzombie1892 said:
Mitch Blood Green said:
Aberzombie1892 said:
Mitch Blood Green said:
Aberzombie1892 said:
No Quarterback said:
Why are we his only P5 offer?


Players get more offers over time, so that would only be a sign of concern in December or January when there is no (realistic) time for more P5 offers. To that end, knows what his final offer sheet will look like, but his 247 rating suggests that he will receive other P5 offers and Baylor would have to fight to keep him (higher composite rating than Baylor's average rating for 2023 recruiting class).

Separately, Baylor will probably end up with several players whose offer sheets don't jump off the page, and those occurrences will increase as UH gets settled and if/when SMU is elevated. It is what it is, so Baylor can only hope to fill in the major gaps via the transfer portal.


Although optimistic. That's not true. He's not getting P5 looks because he's not playing P5 competition.

Sorry, but this class feels like a Guy Morris or Kevin Steele class where somehow, we feel like we know something other coaches don't. A class can have one or two projects. It can't have one or two P5 level talents.


Which part isn't true? He's currently an 87.5 on the 247 composite rankings and Baylor's overall (high school plus transfer) ranking for its 2023 class is currently 87.48, so it's not as if he's of a lower quality than what Baylor signs (for reference, Baylor's 2022 overall class was 87.43 and it's 2021 class was 86.99).


Although you're correct that over time players get more offers, you're incorrect that he will get more O5 offers. Why? Because signing day has shifted from February to December.

That change in the calendar timeline means that your hypothesis applies to 2025 recruits, not 2024.


I'm not sure that that makes it incorrect, as there is still plenty of time for him to get more offers and it's unlikely that he won't get more P5 offers unless he completely shuts down his recruitment (no texts, calls, visits, etc.) as his rating isn't objectively bad and he plays a position of need at the highest levels (OL) (or unless he has a scandal, is seriously injured, retires from football, or his rating falls off a cliff).


How do you foresee him getting more offers? At this point, coaches are making 2025 offers to top HS talent and, in this new era, leaving slots open for transfer portal 2024s.

I'm not saying he will be a bust. No one knows. If he's really 6'6" 275 there's room these for development. I'm just saying it's hard to get a P5 look from the level he competes at.
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In reply to Mitch Blood Green • 12:46p, 6/26/23
Mitch Blood Green said:
Aberzombie1892 said:
Mitch Blood Green said:
Aberzombie1892 said:
Mitch Blood Green said:
Aberzombie1892 said:
No Quarterback said:
Why are we his only P5 offer?


Players get more offers over time, so that would only be a sign of concern in December or January when there is no (realistic) time for more P5 offers. To that end, knows what his final offer sheet will look like, but his 247 rating suggests that he will receive other P5 offers and Baylor would have to fight to keep him (higher composite rating than Baylor's average rating for 2023 recruiting class).

Separately, Baylor will probably end up with several players whose offer sheets don't jump off the page, and those occurrences will increase as UH gets settled and if/when SMU is elevated. It is what it is, so Baylor can only hope to fill in the major gaps via the transfer portal.


Although optimistic. That's not true. He's not getting P5 looks because he's not playing P5 competition.

Sorry, but this class feels like a Guy Morris or Kevin Steele class where somehow, we feel like we know something other coaches don't. A class can have one or two projects. It can't have one or two P5 level talents.


Which part isn't true? He's currently an 87.5 on the 247 composite rankings and Baylor's overall (high school plus transfer) ranking for its 2023 class is currently 87.48, so it's not as if he's of a lower quality than what Baylor signs (for reference, Baylor's 2022 overall class was 87.43 and it's 2021 class was 86.99).


Although you're correct that over time players get more offers, you're incorrect that he will get more O5 offers. Why? Because signing day has shifted from February to December.

That change in the calendar timeline means that your hypothesis applies to 2025 recruits, not 2024.


I'm not sure that that makes it incorrect, as there is still plenty of time for him to get more offers and it's unlikely that he won't get more P5 offers unless he completely shuts down his recruitment (no texts, calls, visits, etc.) as his rating isn't objectively bad and he plays a position of need at the highest levels (OL) (or unless he has a scandal, is seriously injured, retires from football, or his rating falls off a cliff).


How do you foresee him getting more offers? At this point, coaches are making 2025 offers to top HS talent and, in this new era, leaving slots open for transfer portal 2024s.

I'm not saying he will be a bust. No one knows. If he's really 6'6" 275 there's room these for development. I'm just saying it's hard to get a P5 look from the level he competes at.


Looking at the OL rankings on 247, 4/5 of the OL ranked immediately front of him as of 6/26/2023 are committed, and they are committed to UNC, Missouri, Ole Miss and Miss State. 4/5 OL ranked immediately behind him as of the same date are also committed, and they are committed to Northwestern, TCU, UCLA, and Wake Forest.

If the above is true - and it is - I don't see a reason to be worried about the demand for his talents at the P5 level.
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1:43p, 6/26/23
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Well I ain't no greenhorn!!
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In reply to Daveisabovereproach • 3:29p, 6/26/23
No Quarterback said:
Why are we his only P5 offer?


This is becoming a more common theme

Hopefully we can coach em up
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In reply to Aberzombie1892 • 2:37p, 6/27/23
Aberzombie1892 said:
Mitch Blood Green said:
Aberzombie1892 said:
Mitch Blood Green said:
Aberzombie1892 said:
Mitch Blood Green said:
Aberzombie1892 said:
No Quarterback said:
Why are we his only P5 offer?


Players get more offers over time, so that would only be a sign of concern in December or January when there is no (realistic) time for more P5 offers. To that end, knows what his final offer sheet will look like, but his 247 rating suggests that he will receive other P5 offers and Baylor would have to fight to keep him (higher composite rating than Baylor's average rating for 2023 recruiting class).

Separately, Baylor will probably end up with several players whose offer sheets don't jump off the page, and those occurrences will increase as UH gets settled and if/when SMU is elevated. It is what it is, so Baylor can only hope to fill in the major gaps via the transfer portal.


Although optimistic. That's not true. He's not getting P5 looks because he's not playing P5 competition.

Sorry, but this class feels like a Guy Morris or Kevin Steele class where somehow, we feel like we know something other coaches don't. A class can have one or two projects. It can't have one or two P5 level talents.


Which part isn't true? He's currently an 87.5 on the 247 composite rankings and Baylor's overall (high school plus transfer) ranking for its 2023 class is currently 87.48, so it's not as if he's of a lower quality than what Baylor signs (for reference, Baylor's 2022 overall class was 87.43 and it's 2021 class was 86.99).


Although you're correct that over time players get more offers, you're incorrect that he will get more O5 offers. Why? Because signing day has shifted from February to December.

That change in the calendar timeline means that your hypothesis applies to 2025 recruits, not 2024.


I'm not sure that that makes it incorrect, as there is still plenty of time for him to get more offers and it's unlikely that he won't get more P5 offers unless he completely shuts down his recruitment (no texts, calls, visits, etc.) as his rating isn't objectively bad and he plays a position of need at the highest levels (OL) (or unless he has a scandal, is seriously injured, retires from football, or his rating falls off a cliff).


How do you foresee him getting more offers? At this point, coaches are making 2025 offers to top HS talent and, in this new era, leaving slots open for transfer portal 2024s.

I'm not saying he will be a bust. No one knows. If he's really 6'6" 275 there's room these for development. I'm just saying it's hard to get a P5 look from the level he competes at.


Looking at the OL rankings on 247, 4/5 of the OL ranked immediately front of him as of 6/26/2023 are committed, and they are committed to UNC, Missouri, Ole Miss and Miss State. 4/5 OL ranked immediately behind him as of the same date are also committed, and they are committed to Northwestern, TCU, UCLA, and Wake Forest.

If the above is true - and it is - I don't see a reason to be worried about the demand for his talents at the P5 level.
And we just got a commit from a 4* LB with 6 other P5 offers.

I don't put any stock in recruiting until after signing day, but the narrative that we are somehow recruiting at a lower level than we have historically is blatantly false. We're tracking about where we have averaged since Briles pulled this thing out of the ditch. As always, scheme and player development are going to be the major determinants in how far we go.
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