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Does Baylor Football Have Good Enough Talent Entering 2024?

June 3, 2024
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Baylor Football fans can be divided into two major camps. Fans who believed the primary fault of the 2023 team was its lack of talent and those who primarily place the blame on poor coaching. This is an oversimplification, but this general course of argument was prevalent throughout the season.

When you’re as bad as Baylor was in 2023, it’s more of a “which is worse?” situation. If Baylor had either good talent or coaching, they would not have been so bad.

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Does Baylor Football Have Good Enough Talent Entering 2024?

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MrGolfguy
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3:57p, 6/3/24
YES
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9:23p, 6/3/24
No
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In reply to Bearwhiz • 9:26a, 6/4/24
Bearwhiz said:
No

Poppycock
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9:49a, 6/4/24
Lack of talent is a coaching problem. Scheme/planning, motivition/discipline, talent acquisition and talent development are functions of the coaching staff. Failure starts at the top. Last year they showed themselves to be poor in all four phases.
Illigitimus non carborundum
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11:04a, 6/4/24
Good coaching can overcome talent deficits occasionally. This was not the case last season.
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In reply to BellCountyBear • 12:01p, 6/4/24
BellCountyBear said:
Good coaching can overcome talent deficits occasionally. This was not the case last season.
Not over the course of a season. Good coaching can fill in some holes and eliminate terrible gaps. But you will have a ceiling unless you upgrade your talent, especially at the skills positions.
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In reply to OsoCoreyell • 12:38p, 6/4/24
OsoCoreyell said:
BellCountyBear said:
Good coaching can overcome talent deficits occasionally. This was not the case last season.
Not over the course of a season. Good coaching can fill in some holes and eliminate terrible gaps. But you will have a ceiling unless you upgrade your talent, especially at the skills positions.
Correct. I appreciate what Grant Teaff was able to accomplish with what he had available to him, but he was slightly better than a .500 coach. However, this is what the BOR and administration are aiming for again. A squeaky clean HC that wins about as much as he loses. It is where we are...again.
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In reply to MrGolfguy • 2:08p, 6/4/24
MrGolfguy said:
Bearwhiz said:
No

Poppycock
Just look at our draft prospects and first team conference selections the last two years. It is Aranda's job to bring in talent and develop it. He is failing.
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7:51p, 6/5/24
Beyond Tarleton? No.
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In reply to BUGWBBear • 7:54p, 6/5/24
BUGWBBear said:
Beyond Tarleton? No.


Yikes
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9:13a, 6/6/24
I think we have brought in good new players. It's up to the coaching staff at this point IMO.
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11:58a, 6/6/24
Aranda can elevate average players into exceptional players.
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In reply to Killing Floor • 1:31p, 6/6/24
Killing Floor said:
Aranda can elevate average players into exceptional players.


No. He can't or he'd done it by now. He's a coordinator and nothing more. Period
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4:35p, 6/6/24
When you're beat by alignment before the ball snaps talent doesn't matter.

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6:18p, 6/6/24
Unless we hand the keys to Gary Patterson or hire a different good coach, we're now a basketball school.
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In reply to BaylorLit 01 • 9:29p, 6/6/24
Sure as hell not a Baseball school. For damn sure.
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8:42a, 6/7/24
Last game of the season against Kansas. Man. We've bullied them for over a decade and it turns my stomach to think we will be 1-10 going into that game.

We've all overcome the PTSD caused by the Steele years but we're staring at a season with 30 point halftime deficits again.
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In reply to BUGWBBear • 10:10a, 6/7/24
BUGWBBear said:
Killing Floor said:
Aranda can elevate average players into exceptional players.


No. He can't or he'd done it by now. He's a coordinator and nothing more. Period
If he's a good coordinator (and that seems to be a consensus), he should at least be able to elevate defensive players.
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In reply to TeamPlayer • 11:37a, 6/7/24
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Last game of the season against Kansas. Man. We've bullied them for over a decade and it turns my stomach to think we will be 1-10 going into that game.

We've all overcome the PTSD caused by the Steele years but we're staring at a season with 30 point halftime deficits again.
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In reply to TechDawgMc • 1:24p, 6/7/24
You'd think so. But I now have doubts over his earning a Natty Ring at LSU for the fact he can't do it here.
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In reply to TechDawgMc • 3:47p, 6/7/24
Are you guys high?

Our defensive stance, alignment, ability to read keys, responsibilities and technique were the worst I've seen from BU in forever last season.

Not to mention our talent level was subpar.

But hey, at least Ron Roberts wasn't there with his profanity.

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In reply to Golden Helmet • 10:49p, 6/7/24
Golden Helmet said:
Are you guys high?

Our defensive stance, alignment, ability to read keys, responsibilities and technique were the worst I've seen from BU in forever last season.

Not to mention our talent level was subpar.

But hey, at least Ron Roberts wasn't there with his profanity.

I think the biggest weakness Aranda has shown is his choices at coordinator. The first two OCs have been a disaster and only Roberts seems to have worked on defense. If he's more involved in the defense this year and they still stink, then you're right. If they get a lot better, then the problem is more about needing to learn how to evaluate coaches.
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In reply to TechDawgMc • 3:42p, 6/10/24
I believe my sarcasm stuck the landing like Simone Biles.
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5:27p, 6/10/24
With another coach, maybe.
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In reply to TechDawgMc • 8:10a, 6/11/24
If what you say is in fact true and he's competent enough to coordinate a defense without LSU level talent, how do you explain the fact we regressed as the year went on?

He either didn't insert himself and take the reins, or he did and we did not improve.


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