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Gameday Thread: No. 8 Baylor (0-0) at No. 6 Gonzaga (0-0)

November 1, 2024
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No. 8 Baylor (0-0) kicks off the 2024-25 season with a top-10 match-up in No. 6 Gonzaga's (0-0) backyard at Spokane Arena in Spokane, Washington, on Nov. 4, 2024, at 10:30 p.m. CST. The game will be televised on ESPN2.


KenPom Prediction: Gonzaga 79, Baylor 76

Torvik Prediction: Gonzaga 77, Baylor 72

Evan Miyakawa: Gonzaga 83, Baylor 75

Haslametrics: Gonzaga 78, Baylor 73


Coaches

Gonzaga: Mark Few (61) 716-143 (263-188 at Gonzaga); 23 NCAAs; 13 Sweet 16s; 5 Elite 8s; 2 FFs

Baylor: Scott Drew (53); 465-253 overall (435-242 at Baylor); 12 NCAAs; 5 Sweet 16s; 3 Elite 8s; FF; 1 National Championship

Head to Head: 3-2 Few


Gonzaga Starters

  • Guard: Ryan Nembhard (SR) 6-0 180 lbs; 13 ppg; 4 reb; 7 asst; 45% FG; 32% 3pt; 75% FT
  • Guard: Khalif Battle (SR) 6-5 185 lbs; 15 ppg; 3 reb; 41% FG; 35% 3pt; 87% FT; Arkansas TR
  • Forward: Michael Ajayi (SR) 6-7 230 lbs; 17 ppg; 10 reb; 47% FG; 47% 3pt; 71% FT; Pepperdine TR
  • Forward: Graham Ike (SR) 6-9 250 lbs; 17 ppg; 7 reb; 61% FG; 37% 3pt; 78% FT
  • Forward: Ben Gregg (SR) 6-10 230 lbs; 9 ppg; 6 reb; 54% FG; 38% 3pt; 73% FT

Gonzaga Bench

  • Guard: Nolan Hickman (SR) 6-2 190 lbs; 14 ppg; 2 reb; 3 asst; 47% FG; 41% 3pt; 88% FT
  • Forward: Braden Huff (SO) 6-10 250 lbs; 9 ppg; 3 reb; 60% FG; 34% pt; 55% FT
  • Guard: Dusty Stromer (SO) 6-6 200 lbs; 5 ppg; 3 reb; 37% FG; 36% 3pt; 81% FT

Baylor Starters

  • Guard: Jeremy Roach (SR) 6-2 180 lbs; 14 ppg; 3 reb; 3 asst; 47% FG; 43% 3pt; 84% FT; Duke TR
  • Guard: Jayden Nunn (SR) 6-4 190 lbs; 11 ppg; 3 reb; 2 asst; 46% FG; 44% 3pt; 71% FT 
  • Guard: VJ Edgecombe (FR) 6-5 190 lbs; 5 star freshman
  • Forward: Norchad Omier (SR) 6-7 245 lbs; 17 ppg; 10 reb; 55% FG; 35% 3pt; 75% FT; Miami TR
  • Forward: Josh Ojianwuna (JR) 6-10 255 lbs; 5 ppg; 3 reb; 73% FG; 63% FT

Baylor Bench

  • Guard: Langston Love (JR) 6-5 215 lbs; 11 ppg; 3 reb; 47% FG; 48% 3p; 78% FT
  • Forward: Jalen Celestine (SR) 6-7 215 lbs; 9 ppg; 3 reb; 45% FG; 44% 3pt; 72% FT; Cal TR
  • Guard: Rob Wright (FR) 6-1 180 lbs; 5 star freshman
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Gameday Thread: No. 8 Baylor (0-0) at No. 6 Gonzaga (0-0)

14,298 Views | 202 Replies | Last: 10 min ago by Johnny Bear
Stefano DiMera
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**** happens...wake me up if this happens in game #20 vs Oklahoma St .

As we say every year. Drew will figure it out.

We got our ass kicked in Detroit against MSU with more games under our belt and still were a #3 seed
davesburgerbarn
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We need someone like Missi who can protect the rim
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Frank Galvin
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IvanBear said:

Frank Galvin said:

I'm sure we will be fine, but this is disappointing.


Define fine? Yeah we will get to 25 wins, but this team has fundamental flaws in roster construction that will keep us from being a contender for the conference or final four.


We will be at least a Sweet 16 team this year.

I know it's nice to have a perfectly constructed roster, but that is rare. We aren't perfect but we will be very good. You seem to understand that because 25 wins with our schedule is nothing to sneeze at.
IowaBear
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There's absolutely nothing to suggest this is a S16 team. Until they play defense the Rd32 will continue being the ceiling
LIB,MR BEARS
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15% from three
Out rebounded by 6

If the 3s don't start falling early in the second half we're going to have to pound it inside and draw fouls. Do we have anyone with a consistent 8-10' pull-up? If we do, they need to show up, draw the D and start dumping off for the bunnies.

Tough to make up 19 points without 3s and rebounds though.
IowaBear
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Why is love not playing? Is he hurt yet again?!
Bearwhiz
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Frank Galvin said:

IvanBear said:

Frank Galvin said:

I'm sure we will be fine, but this is disappointing.


Define fine? Yeah we will get to 25 wins, but this team has fundamental flaws in roster construction that will keep us from being a contender for the conference or final four.


We will be at least a Sweet 16 team this year.

I know it's nice to have a perfectly constructed roster, but that is rare. We aren't perfect but we will be very good. You seem to understand that because 25 wins with our schedule is nothing to sneeze at.
Don't know how you see sweet 16.
Frank Galvin
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IowaBear said:

There's absolutely nothing to suggest this is a S16 team. Until they play defense the Rd32 will continue being the ceiling


They have played 1/2 of an away game against a really good team.


We have such idiots for fans.
Stefano DiMera
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No we can't play the youth card against 95% of the teams we play.

But we can tonight..and the continuity card .

That team on the other side is tough. This is not your Dad's Gonzaga. They have an edge and play D
IowaBear
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No we have fans that see the same flaws from previous teams.
We have pumpers who overlook those flaws. We play zero defenseā€¦ zero if you can't see that than see an eye doctor tomm. Defense wins in March
IvanBear
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Frank Galvin said:

IvanBear said:

Frank Galvin said:

I'm sure we will be fine, but this is disappointing.


Define fine? Yeah we will get to 25 wins, but this team has fundamental flaws in roster construction that will keep us from being a contender for the conference or final four.


We will be at least a Sweet 16 team this year.

I know it's nice to have a perfectly constructed roster, but that is rare. We aren't perfect but we will be very good. You seem to understand that because 25 wins with our schedule is nothing to sneeze at.




If you don't play defense you can't win in the tournament, unless that radically changes were a first weekend team again. I get it's the first game, but it's not like we haven't been practicing. Drew has not proven he can effectively coach one of these squads that has little to no continuity.

I also disagree on roster construction sometimes it'd be better to go lower profile but the right pieces instead of a splash.

Bearwhiz
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Frank Galvin said:

IowaBear said:

There's absolutely nothing to suggest this is a S16 team. Until they play defense the Rd32 will continue being the ceiling


They have played 1/2 of an away game against a really good team.


We have such idiots for fans.
I'm the idiot huh. Defend your statement and stop with the name calling
LIB,MR BEARS
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How many games has Gonzaga played together?

How many games has Baylor played together?
bear2be2
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Stefano DiMera said:

No we can't play the youth card against 95% of the teams we play.

But we can tonight..and the continuity card .

That team on the other side is tough. This is not your Dad's Gonzaga. They have an edge and play D
When you're starting three seniors and a junior, you can't play the youth card against anyone.

A team with our experience and talent level shouldn't look the way we did in the first half. Its OK to admit it.

That's not to say this season is over anything of the sort. But we've got a lot of jelling and maturing to do to reach the expectations most have for this team. We're not anywhere close to where we need to be right now.
IowaBear
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Whose fault is that? Roster continuity isn't a bad thing..
Bearsalwayswin
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these announcers are clowns with these predictions lol
bear2be2
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IowaBear said:

Whose fault is that? Roster continuity isn't a bad thing..
I say this every year, but we're building the roster the way Drew wants to. You can't make the roster continuity excuse when we have strategically abandoned that as a priority.
Bearsalwayswin
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edgecombe has been the worst player on the court tonight
Big_Pumpin
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We suck. Oh well. When's baseball season?
bear2be2
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Edgecombe has been awful tonight.
IowaBear
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What gets me are the posters saying roster continuity isn't possible in the NIL age
Bearwhiz
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This is bad. No way to sugarcoat it
bear2be2
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This is hard to watch. We're getting outworked badly tonight.

Have some pride, fellas. You're getting your lunch money taken.
IvanBear
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Nunn continues to absolutely suck. Where are his defenders?
bear2be2
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IowaBear said:

What gets me are the posters saying roster continuity isn't possible in the NIL age
I point out teams that disprove that theory every single season.

And the funny part is it's the same posters who say it's not possible that use that as an excuse when we get outplayed by a team with it.
IowaBear
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It's 1 game and ultimately won't mean much come March. But the flaws are there. And they aren't magically going away.
Stefano DiMera
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We just can't shoot. And VJ has been horrible..that's the youth I'm talking about.

Plus the turnovers..

All fixable..I think.
bear2be2
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IowaBear said:

It's 1 game and ultimately won't mean much come March. But the flaws are there. And they aren't magically going away.
I didn't expect a finished product. But I didn't expect this either.

We look awful.
IowaBear
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Houston, Iowa St, he'll even KU has a solid foundation that comes back yearly (this years no different). It's 100% possible. Drew just chooses to start from scratch every year
bear2be2
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Stefano DiMera said:

We just can't shoot. And VJ has been horrible..that's the youth I'm talking about.

Plus the turnovers..

All fixable..I think.
Edgecombe's a great athlete, but he looks really, really raw from a skills standpoint. I'm not sure that gets fixed in a single season.

On the bright side, Wright looks surprisingly polished for a freshman. He's going to be a really important player for us IMO.
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Edgecombe's body language looks horrible. Doesn't seem like he even wants to be on the court tonight.
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Bearsalwayswin
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i want to say there are some good things, and there are some bad. As we see with football (ie colorado) it takes awhile for new players to gell, and we are opening up with really hard competition; on the road. I think we need to step back for a sec and say no this ain't good, but it's fixable
IowaBear
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I'd prefer VJ come off the bench. I know it'll never happen becauseā€¦ 5 star.
CHP Bear
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I have seen enough tonight.
IvanBear
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Bearsalwayswin said:

i want to say there are some good things, and there are some bad. As we see with football (ie colorado) it takes awhile for new players to gell, and we are opening up with really hard competition; on the road. I think we need to step back for a sec and say no this ain't good, but it's fixable



It's fixable in maybe we could put up a performance that isn't embarrassing but not one that could beat this team. Too many obvious fundamental flaws.
 
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