Breaking: Freshman Forward Jason Asemota Enters Transfer Portal

Not shocking in the least. There had to be a reason he wasn't playing more in games where the game had been decided. Did he even come in for the Duke game at all? He seemed to not be a fit even before coming on campus. He is talented enough to play at the D 1 level, but I doubt he was the 30th best recruit conf out of high school. I am now waiting to see if Wright does the same.

Looks like another role player whiff. Whether it be talent or culture this is a really bad trend. Going to need a ton of top flight transfers.

Agree, he was supposed to be a guy that could build into a starter year 3-4. Again, another reason to really question the unlimited transfer portal. Let's see where he is in two-three years.

Quinton said:

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Looks like another role player whiff. Whether it be talent or culture this is a really bad trend. Going to need a ton of top flight transfers.

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Our recruiting track record the past 2-3 seasons has been abyssmal. We do need lots of top flight transfers but frankly I have doubts that this staff is capable of finding the right ones and putting together a coherent roster.

Crawfoso1973 said:

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Quinton said:

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Looks like another role player whiff. Whether it be talent or culture this is a really bad trend. Going to need a ton of top flight transfers.

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Our recruiting track record the past 2-3 seasons has been abyssmal. We do need lots of top flight transfers but frankly I have doubts that this staff is capable of finding the right ones and putting together a coherent roster.

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They're getting completely schooled in this new era so far. Cache and brand value will be gone after next year if something doesn't shift

Where is he projecting to go? Very curious about this part.

Still another massive recruiting whiff. It's becoming par for the course.

So basically it's just rob left and a hopefully healthy Josh. Drew needs to coach and recreate the program like it's his early years.

Oso del lago said:

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So basically it's just rob left and a hopefully healthy Josh. Drew needs to coach and recreate the program like it's his early years.

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Have we chased off Celestine? I don't want him back but he's got another year.

Wow, all the usual Debbie Downers are out in full force in this thread!

Re: Asemota, I had heard rumblings that he tried to get out of his NLI prior to enrolling, so I don't know that he was all that committed this year. Regardless, he's probably going to develop into a good player after another year or two of seasoning. Unfortunately, it won't be here. I wish him the best!

As thin as we were, especially up front, how could this kid not find the court? Was he just way under developed, or did he have an attitude problem, or both?

I believe Omar A is in the portal as well

if so good attrition. we need roster spots for players ready to play.

There are almost 900 players in the portal. Pretty sure we can find one to replace all of the 1.6 ppg and 25% shooting from 3 we got from Asemota.

Mitch Henessey said:

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Wow, all the usual Debbie Downers are out in full force in this thread!

Re: Asemota, I had heard rumblings that he tried to get out of his NLI prior to enrolling, so I don't know that he was all that committed this year. Regardless, he's probably going to develop into a good player after another year or two of seasoning. Unfortunately, it won't be here. I wish him the best!

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We have a pretty great team of former players out there.

I thought he played some good minutes when he was put in. I was very surprised he played so little. You cannot count a four-star recruit staying where he is not used.

My concerns with both teams: no height on the teams and lack overall physicality..

Big12Fan2024 said:

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There are almost 900 players in the portal. Pretty sure we can find one to replace all of the 1.6 ppg and 25% shooting from 3 we got from Asemota.

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If players are looking for playing time, we have availability.

We can all see where this is likely heading

Big12Fan2024 said:

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There are almost 900 players in the portal. Pretty sure we can find one to replace all of the 1.6 ppg and 25% shooting from 3 we got from Asemota.

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Agree. With all the injuries he had ample opportunity to shine and he consistently didn't do so - at least against competition with a pulse. Wish him the best, but this isn't anything to lose sleep over.

Big12Fan2024 said:

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There are almost 900 players in the portal. Pretty sure we can find one to replace all of the 1.6 ppg and 25% shooting from 3 we got from Asemota.

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I don't think replacing Asemota will be a challenge. But I think there's something to be said for keeping guys in your program and developing them.

What Sampson (Houston), Izzo (Michigan State), Painter (Purdue) and even Scheyer (Duke) have done in terms of building culture and continuity is incredibly impressive.

Hopefully it will show both other coaches and players that the portal isn't always necessary to reach your program and career goals.

bear2be2 said:

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Big12Fan2024 said:

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There are almost 900 players in the portal. Pretty sure we can find one to replace all of the 1.6 ppg and 25% shooting from 3 we got from Asemota.

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I don't think replacing Asemota will be a challenge. But I think there's something to be said for keeping guys in your program and developing them.

What Sampson (Houston), Izzo (Michigan State), Painter (Purdue) and even Scheyer (Duke) have done in terms of building culture and continuity is incredibly impressive.

Hopefully it will show both other coaches and players that the portal isn't always necessary to reach your program and career goals.

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If we bring in a five star kid and he is a one year failure, that is our fault one way or another. Might've been evaluation, might have been development, but one way or another is a failure, and you cannot blame the players over and over.

Robert Wilson said:

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bear2be2 said:

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Big12Fan2024 said:

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There are almost 900 players in the portal. Pretty sure we can find one to replace all of the 1.6 ppg and 25% shooting from 3 we got from Asemota.

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I don't think replacing Asemota will be a challenge. But I think there's something to be said for keeping guys in your program and developing them.

What Sampson (Houston), Izzo (Michigan State), Painter (Purdue) and even Scheyer (Duke) have done in terms of building culture and continuity is incredibly impressive.

Hopefully it will show both other coaches and players that the portal isn't always necessary to reach your program and career goals.

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If we bring in a five star kid and he is a one year failure, that is our fault one way or another. Might've been evaluation, might have been development, but one way or another is a failure, and you cannot blame the players over and over.

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Sorry it didn't work better for Jason here, and yes, Baylor has responsibility as well as self interest in developing a player to perform well on the court. My sense of things from a couple thousand miles away (like Bob Uecker's fan in the back row of the upper deck yelling "He missed the tag") is that there was a clear difference between Jason and the staff on what they wanted him to do. A positive spin for Baylor, for those who think we are craven to the 5* coddlement, this shows we are not allergic to sitting a talented athlete when Athlete and staff are not eye to eye.

TWD 1974 said:

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Robert Wilson said:

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bear2be2 said:

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Big12Fan2024 said:

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There are almost 900 players in the portal. Pretty sure we can find one to replace all of the 1.6 ppg and 25% shooting from 3 we got from Asemota.

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I don't think replacing Asemota will be a challenge. But I think there's something to be said for keeping guys in your program and developing them.

What Sampson (Houston), Izzo (Michigan State), Painter (Purdue) and even Scheyer (Duke) have done in terms of building culture and continuity is incredibly impressive.

Hopefully it will show both other coaches and players that the portal isn't always necessary to reach your program and career goals.

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If we bring in a five star kid and he is a one year failure, that is our fault one way or another. Might've been evaluation, might have been development, but one way or another is a failure, and you cannot blame the players over and over.

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Sorry it didn't work better for Jason here, and yes, Baylor has responsibility as well as self interest in developing a player to perform well on the court. My sense of things from a couple thousand miles away (like Bob Uecker's fan in the back row of the upper deck yelling "He missed the tag") is that there was a clear difference between Jason and the staff on what they wanted him to do. A positive spin for Baylor, for those who think we are craven to the 5* coddlement, this shows we are not allergic to sitting a talented athlete when Athlete and staff are not eye to eye.

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That's a good point. I was pointing it out as part of the overall roster management concern.

Robert Wilson said:

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bear2be2 said:

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Big12Fan2024 said:

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There are almost 900 players in the portal. Pretty sure we can find one to replace all of the 1.6 ppg and 25% shooting from 3 we got from Asemota.

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I don't think replacing Asemota will be a challenge. But I think there's something to be said for keeping guys in your program and developing them.

What Sampson (Houston), Izzo (Michigan State), Painter (Purdue) and even Scheyer (Duke) have done in terms of building culture and continuity is incredibly impressive.

Hopefully it will show both other coaches and players that the portal isn't always necessary to reach your program and career goals.

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If we bring in a five star kid and he is a one year failure, that is our fault one way or another. Might've been evaluation, might have been development, but one way or another is a failure, and you cannot blame the players over and over.

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I generally agree with your point and have never been afraid to levy (hopefully constructive and civil) criticism when I've felt our staff has failed in one area or another.

But in this particular case, I'm not sure Baylor and Jason Asemota were ever a very good fit. His vision of his game and the goals he had for his career never seemed to match the vision we had for him and what we thought he should be for our roster.

Every time he came in, he was looking to shoot -- most often from the perimeter. And while tall and athletic, he never seemed to care much for physicality on either end. We needed him to be a frontcourt role player and he seemed more intent on proving his versatility as a really long wing. That inability to see eye to eye on role and fit is likely why he didn't play more early in the season, when it would have seemingly made sense to get him some experience.

TWD 1974 said:

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Robert Wilson said:

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bear2be2 said:

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Big12Fan2024 said:

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There are almost 900 players in the portal. Pretty sure we can find one to replace all of the 1.6 ppg and 25% shooting from 3 we got from Asemota.

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I don't think replacing Asemota will be a challenge. But I think there's something to be said for keeping guys in your program and developing them.

What Sampson (Houston), Izzo (Michigan State), Painter (Purdue) and even Scheyer (Duke) have done in terms of building culture and continuity is incredibly impressive.

Hopefully it will show both other coaches and players that the portal isn't always necessary to reach your program and career goals.

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If we bring in a five star kid and he is a one year failure, that is our fault one way or another. Might've been evaluation, might have been development, but one way or another is a failure, and you cannot blame the players over and over.

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Sorry it didn't work better for Jason here, and yes, Baylor has responsibility as well as self interest in developing a player to perform well on the court. My sense of things from a couple thousand miles away (like Bob Uecker's fan in the back row of the upper deck yelling "He missed the tag") is that there was a clear difference between Jason and the staff on what they wanted him to do. A positive spin for Baylor, for those who think we are craven to the 5* coddlement, this shows we are not allergic to sitting a talented athlete when Athlete and staff are not eye to eye.

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I should have just read one more post and said "what he said."

You and I seem to have similar bird's eye view opinions on what happened in this case.

All the highlights I saw of Jason were exactly what he was doing here. In a lot of clips he was standing at the three point line clapping for the ball. That was enough for me to see to get skeptical of his potential fit. I think that is just the way AAU ball is now. I would love to see some more fundamentals than sheer talent in some cases. I feel like the euro kids are learning way more fundamentals than the US kids.

bear2be2 said:

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His vision of his game and the goals he had for his career never seemed to match the vision we had for him and what we thought he should be for our roster.

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That sounds right, and I do applaud our refusal to let the players run over the staff. But that's still a mistake on our end - just in the evaluation phase.