BREAKING: Athletic Director Mack Rhoades Taking Leave of Absence

there is now a second investigation being acknowledged - it is not Title IX or directly football related apparently. He's almost assuredly gone now.

Lot's of folks here assume that will mean Aranda is gone too, but I don't think that's the case automatically.

I think if the team wins out to beat a ranked Utah and potentially a ranked Houston, especially if the team also wins their bowl game, I don't see the new AD cutting Dave loose. Especially if the new AD were to learn that say the terrible NIL approach and starting Finn were both Mack decisions. Dave has taken the blame for those, but that doesn't mean he wasn't just being a good soldier.

Regardless of all that: anything less than an 8-5 finish (whether the loss is reg season or a bowl game) and Dave's job is likely in real jeopardy as a new AD will have a reason to want to put their stamp on the program and fan apathy will be at an all time high with 7-6 or worse record.

Is that Jeremiah Dickey's music I hear?

i sure hope so he should be our number 1 option

Bearsalwayswin said:

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i sure hope so he should be our number 1 option

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A lot of folks won't like it because he is a Mack disciple and worked for Mack his entire career before he got the job at Boise. But to me it just makes the most sense.

guadalupeoso said:

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Is that Jeremiah Dickey's music I hear?

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Or a Scott Strickin at Florida?

His football hires haven't been great and he's in the middle of a search now. Did get a hoops title by not firing the pervert head coach.

Stefano DiMera said:

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guadalupeoso said:

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Is that Jeremiah Dickey's music I hear?

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Or a Scott Strickin at Florida?

His football hires haven't been great and he's in the middle of a search now. Did get a hoops title by not firing the pervert head coach.

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1. Only if the big $$$ gators are miffed at his whiffs in football.

2. He started here to gain experience on the way up, which led him to Kentucky and MissSt and Florida.

3. He was here during the Stanton/Steele/Morriss years. Not a good time to remember, unless he learned a lot about what not to do.

Is this like suspended with pay?

Go get Nico.

Stefano DiMera said:

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guadalupeoso said:

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Is that Jeremiah Dickey's music I hear?

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Or a Scott Strickin at Florida?

His football hires haven't been great and he's in the middle of a search now. Did get a hoops title by not firing the pervert head coach.

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Trust me, as a Florida fan by marriage, we dont want Scott Stricklin.
Every other hire has been subpar. Not to mention the horrible hires he has done in women's sports that has led to many abuse allegations.
He got lucky that Todd Golden won the National Championship last year, but even that one is definitely skeevy with allegations of harrasment & cyberstalking of women, including students...

Whoever the next hire is needs to be of impeccable character. We can't keep having a new scandal every decade.

lakersfan34 said:

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Negotiate Mack's buyout now and let's get a new AD hired in the next few weeks in time for the new coaching search.

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If they're buying out the AD, they're not buying out the coach too.

Bear1991 said:

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Fire Mack for cause and get out of his lucrative contract.

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You better be rock solid or you'll be in court.

Let's wait before we declare this a 'scandal' and see if it's truly a substance/medical/mental concern.

Let the Toads and Aggies do a backbend to try and relate it to Bliss/Briles et al.

Dellenger says it is a violation of the school's 'faith based' policies. That is probably alcohol, opioid addiction, or boyfriend/girlfriend. His reported disheveled appearance, bad hair color and weird clothing choices could indicate any of the above. The clothes and hair dye suggest a Bobby Petrino situation

I think he must have something in his contract about not fishing in a priivate park I dont think there will be any payout.

bear2be2 said:

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Whoever the next hire is needs to be of impeccable character. We can't keep having a new scandal every decade.

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Yes, Jeramiah Dickey has already been mentioned.

bear2be2 said:

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Whoever the next hire is needs to be of impeccable character. We can't keep having a new scandal every decade.

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Eh, we probably can. It's gotten us this far.

Robert Wilson said:

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bear2be2 said:

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Whoever the next hire is needs to be of impeccable character. We can't keep having a new scandal every decade.

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Eh, we probably can. It's gotten us this far.

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Ok that's a good one. Props.

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hodedofome said:

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bear2be2 said:

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Stefano DiMera said:

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Let's wait before we declare this a 'scandal' and see if it's truly a substance/medical/mental concern.

Let the Toads and Aggies do a backbend to try and relate it to Bliss/Briles et al.

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A scandal need not rise to the level of murder or rape to cause a national black eye.

This one already has, regardless of what comes out in the coming weeks.

Mack's inability to keep his hands to himself (in more ways than one, apparently) has brought national embarrassment to my university ... yet again.

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Oh come on even Christian's are imperfect. They are going to sin. It's the response to sin that defines character of both an individual as well as a university.

People who want to have only perfect leaders with no issues are the ones sweeping bad stuff under the rug because we can't ever look like we've sinned. That's Baptists through and through.

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Assuming Mack doesn't survive, our last four ADs will have all resigned in disgrace, following fairly major scandals -- two of those involving murder and rape. This isn't normal college sports stuff.

I don't view it as a super high bar to hire people who won't embarrass and shame the university with unnecessary off-the-field scandal. But we haven't been able to, whether we've stayed in house or gone outside the Baylor bubble to hire largely respected administrator types, like McCaw and Rhoades. Maybe we're just cursed. But even when our administrators know that avoiding scandal is a major part of their job, they still can't seem to do so.

At this point, I have to think there's some deep-seated institutional issue at Baylor that is causing these things to happen again and again and again. We're batting .000 for almost a half-century as far as avoiding scandal goes. I'm not going to accept, excuse or normalize that as "for all have sinned ..." stuff.

We need to get our **** together ... and in a hurry. None of this is acceptable.

bear2be2 said:

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hodedofome said:

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bear2be2 said:

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Stefano DiMera said:

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Let's wait before we declare this a 'scandal' and see if it's truly a substance/medical/mental concern.

Let the Toads and Aggies do a backbend to try and relate it to Bliss/Briles et al.

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A scandal need not rise to the level of murder or rape to cause a national black eye.

This one already has, regardless of what comes out in the coming weeks.

Mack's inability to keep his hands to himself (in more ways than one, apparently) has brought national embarrassment to my university ... yet again.

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Oh come on even Christian's are imperfect. They are going to sin. It's the response to sin that defines character of both an individual as well as a university.

People who want to have only perfect leaders with no issues are the ones sweeping bad stuff under the rug because we can't ever look like we've sinned. That's Baptists through and through.

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Assuming Mack doesn't survive, our last four ADs will have all resigned in disgrace, following fairly major scandals -- two of those involving murder and rape. This isn't normal college sports stuff.

I don't view it as a super high bar to hire people who won't embarrass and shame the university with unnecessary off-the-field scandal. But we haven't been able to, whether we've stayed in house or gone outside the Baylor bubble to hire largely respected administrator types, like McCaw and Rhoades. Maybe we're just cursed. But even when our administrators know that avoiding scandal is a major part of their job, they can't seem to do so.

At this point, I have to think there's some deep-seated institutional issue at Baylor that is causing these things to happen again and again and again. We're batting .000 for almost a half-century as far as avoiding scandal goes. I'm not going to accept, excuse or normalize that.

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FWIW, those last 4 have been spread out over 30 years. During that same time period, Aggy has gone through 7 presidents and 3 interim presidents, most of whom left over some form of internal kerfuffle (with the exception of Robert Gates, who skedaddled to DC to be Secy of Defense).

whitetrash said:

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bear2be2 said:

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hodedofome said:

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bear2be2 said:

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Stefano DiMera said:

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Let's wait before we declare this a 'scandal' and see if it's truly a substance/medical/mental concern.

Let the Toads and Aggies do a backbend to try and relate it to Bliss/Briles et al.

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A scandal need not rise to the level of murder or rape to cause a national black eye.

This one already has, regardless of what comes out in the coming weeks.

Mack's inability to keep his hands to himself (in more ways than one, apparently) has brought national embarrassment to my university ... yet again.

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Oh come on even Christian's are imperfect. They are going to sin. It's the response to sin that defines character of both an individual as well as a university.

People who want to have only perfect leaders with no issues are the ones sweeping bad stuff under the rug because we can't ever look like we've sinned. That's Baptists through and through.

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Assuming Mack doesn't survive, our last four ADs will have all resigned in disgrace, following fairly major scandals -- two of those involving murder and rape. This isn't normal college sports stuff.

I don't view it as a super high bar to hire people who won't embarrass and shame the university with unnecessary off-the-field scandal. But we haven't been able to, whether we've stayed in house or gone outside the Baylor bubble to hire largely respected administrator types, like McCaw and Rhoades. Maybe we're just cursed. But even when our administrators know that avoiding scandal is a major part of their job, they can't seem to do so.

At this point, I have to think there's some deep-seated institutional issue at Baylor that is causing these things to happen again and again and again. We're batting .000 for almost a half-century as far as avoiding scandal goes. I'm not going to accept, excuse or normalize that.

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FWIW, those last 4 have been spread out over 30 years. During that same time period, Aggy has gone through 7 presidents and 3 interim presidents, most of whom left over some form of internal kerfuffle (with the exception of Robert Gates, who skedaddled to DC to be Secy of Defense).

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I think longevity is a big part of the problem. I would argue that our ADs have held our job for too long. I think we'd be much better off rolling those folks off every four or five years rather than holding onto them for decades at a time.

Extended exposure to the insulated Baylor culture seems to rot one's brain over time.

I think Tom Stanton was just in over his head and incompetent, but it's pretty wild that Ian McCaw went from a straight-laced, milquetoast administrator to a cartel fixer in 10 years and that Mack Rhoades went from a buttoned-up, professional achiever to a disheveled slob in the same amount of time. These people are getting way too comfortable here.

bear2be2 said:

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hodedofome said:

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bear2be2 said:

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Stefano DiMera said:

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Let's wait before we declare this a 'scandal' and see if it's truly a substance/medical/mental concern.

Let the Toads and Aggies do a backbend to try and relate it to Bliss/Briles et al.

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A scandal need not rise to the level of murder or rape to cause a national black eye.

This one already has, regardless of what comes out in the coming weeks.

Mack's inability to keep his hands to himself (in more ways than one, apparently) has brought national embarrassment to my university ... yet again.

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Oh come on even Christian's are imperfect. They are going to sin. It's the response to sin that defines character of both an individual as well as a university.

People who want to have only perfect leaders with no issues are the ones sweeping bad stuff under the rug because we can't ever look like we've sinned. That's Baptists through and through.

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Assuming Mack doesn't survive, our last four ADs will have all resigned in disgrace, following fairly major scandals -- two of those involving murder and rape. This isn't normal college sports stuff.

I don't view it as a super high bar to hire people who won't embarrass and shame the university with unnecessary off-the-field scandal. But we haven't been able to, whether we've stayed in house or gone outside the Baylor bubble to hire largely respected administrator types, like McCaw and Rhoades. Maybe we're just cursed. But even when our administrators know that avoiding scandal is a major part of their job, they still can't seem to do so.

At this point, I have to think there's some deep-seated institutional issue at Baylor that is causing these things to happen again and again and again. We're batting .000 for almost a half-century as far as avoiding scandal goes. I'm not going to accept, excuse or normalize that as "for all have sinned ..." stuff.

We need to get our **** together ... and in a hurry. None of this is acceptable.

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More for the R&P board but, is BU targeted more by the enemy?

bear2be2 said:

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I think Tom Stanton was just in over his head and incompetent, but it's pretty wild that Ian McCaw went from a straight-laced, milquetoast administrator to a cartel fixer in 10 years and that Mack Rhoades went from a buttoned-up, professional achiever to a disheveled slob in the same amount of time. These people are getting way too comfortable here.

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Back in the day, I flew a tremendous number of flights every year (hit Exec Platinum renewal threshold about 7-8 weeks into the year). During that time, was on a flight with Ian McCaw at least 20-25 times (during his Baylor tenure). He was consistently miserable. Visibly miserable. Not a little. Consistently looked like he had just received a cancer diagnosis or similar. Utter unhappiness.

Whatever he was facing in life had him crushed. Not surprised he unraveled. The year McLane opened was on an Eagle flight out of Waco on the day after we upset KSU. McCaw and daughter (think it was his daughter) were on flight. He should have been very happy. He looked less happy than anyone I had ever observed. And he was wearing the cheapest off the rack beige suit that made it worse. Sad clown stuff.

Maybe he just has a bad resting face.

Dick Ellis did not resign and there was no disgrace. Stanton and McCaw did.

Bearknuckle said:

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Lot's of folks here assume that will mean Aranda is gone too, but I don't think that's the case automatically.

I think if the team wins out to beat a ranked Utah and potentially a ranked Houston, especially if the team also wins their bowl game, I don't see the new AD cutting Dave loose. Especially if the new AD were to learn that say the terrible NIL approach and starting Finn were both Mack decisions.

Regardless of all that: anything less than an 8-5 finish (whether the loss is reg season or a bowl game) and Dave's job is likely in real jeopardy as a new AD will have a reason to want to put their stamp on the program and fan apathy will be at an all time high with 7-6 or worse record.

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Que the music. In the words sung by that Dandy Don Meredith, " if Ifs, Ands or Buts were candy or nuts, we'd all have a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year".

Some combination of hookers and blow.

I had not been following but definitely looks like the dude is strung out on something - explains the erratic behavior and the general disaster that has been the athletic department. Someone definitely trying to get him out by sharing the Trigg story with Outkick.

Old JudgeBaylor from BearScoop days has the real story just like old times.