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Game Thread: No. 7 Baylor Women’s Basketball Tries to Rebound Against Davidson

No. 7 Baylor women’s basketball (4-1) faces the Davidson Wildcats (4-2) in the Bears’ second game in the WBCA State Farm Showcase at the ESPN Wide World of Sports Complex at Walt Disney World Resort.
November 22, 2025
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ORLANDO, Florida – No. 7 Baylor women’s basketball (4-1) faces the Davidson Wildcats (4-2) in the Bears’ second game in the WBCA State Farm Showcase at the ESPN Wide World of Sports Complex at Walt Disney World Resort. Tipoff is scheduled for 4:30 p.m. CT on Saturday, November 22, at the ESPN Wide World of Sports Complex at Walt Disney World Resort. The game will be televised on ESPN+.

While Davidson is a solid team, the Bears should be able to rebound following a tough 57-52 loss to Iowa. The Wildcats are 0-2 against high-major opponents this season, with losses to Mississippi State and Miami (FL).


  • Baylor Barttorvik Rank: 28
    • Baylor Massey Rating: 12
  • Davidson Barttorvik Rank: 61
    • Davidson Massey Rating: 85
  • Barttorvik Prediction: 66-59 Baylor
    • Massey Prediction: 71-52 Baylor

Coaches

  • Nicki Collen (Baylor): 106-37 record; 4 NCAA Tournaments, Sweet 16
  • Gayle Fulks (Davidson): 126-118 record; 0 NCAA Tournaments

Projected Lineups

Baylor Starters

  • Guard Jana Van Gytenbeek (5’7, 6Sr.): 3.2 PPG, 2.0 RPG, 5.0 APG, 19% FG, 19% 3-PT, 75% FT, 27 MPG
  • Guard Taliah Scott (5’9, RSo.): 26.0 PPG, 3.6 RPG, 4.0 APG, 1.4 SPG, 44% FG, 36% 3-PT, 86% FT, 35 MPG 
  • Forward Bella Fontleroy (6’0, Sr.): 12.0 PPG, 6.8 RPG, 1.0 APG, 2.4 SPG, 1.4 BPG, 39% FG, 38% 3-PT, 92% FT, 27 MPG
  • Forward Darianna Littlepage-Buggs (6’1, Sr.): 10.0 PPG, 10.2 RPG, 1.6 APG, 1.0 BPG, 49% FG, 100% 3-PT, 54% FT, 29 MPG
  • Forward Kiersten Johnson (6’4, Sr.): 5.4 PPG, 3.8 RPG, 0.2 APG, 1.8 BPG, 48% FG, 60% 3-PT, 0% FT, 22 MPG

Baylor Bench

  • Guard Marcayla Johnson (6’0, Fr.): 3.4 PPG, 2.2 RPG, 1.2 APG, 25% FG, 0% 3-PT, 56% FT, 20 MPG
  • Forward Kyla Abraham (6’3, RJr.): 1.8 PPG, 4.0 RPG, 0.2 APG, 2.4 BPG, 33% FG, 50% FT, 17 MPG
  • Guard Yuting Deng (6’2, So.): 4.0 PPG, 1.6 RPG, 0.0 APG, 50% FG, 33% 3-PT, 13 MPG
  • Forward Kayla Nelms (6’1, So.): 4.0 PPG, 2.0 RPG, 0.3 APG, 63% FG, 33% 3-PT, 50% FT, 8 MPG
  • Forward Kiera Pemberton (6’1, Jr.): 1.5 PPG, 1.3 RPG, 0.0 APG, 100% FG, 100% FT, 5 MPG

Projected Lineups

Davidson Starters

  • Guard Katie Donovan (5’11, Jr.): 7.8 PPG, 3.0 RPG, 2.2 APG, 1.2 SPG, 45% FG, 43% 3-PT, 75% FT, 29 MPG
  • Guard Kyra Bruyndoncx (5’11, So.): 9.7 PPG, 1.2 RPG, 0.7 APG, 58% FG, 63% 3-PT, 100% FT, 26 MPG
  • Guard Emilie Bessell (5’9, So.): 5.0 PPG, 2.2 RPG, 0.7 APG, 59% FG, 50% 3-PT, 90% FT, 16 MPG
  • Guard Charlise Dunn (6’2, Sr.): 15.2 PPG, 6.3 RPG, 1.3 APG, 1.7 SPG, 43% FG, 39% 3-PT, 85% FT, 32 MPG
  • Center Edina Strausz (6’3, So.): 7.5 PPG, 3.3 RPG, 0.5 APG, 50% FG, 0% 3-PT, 69% FT, 15 MPG

Davidson Bench

  • Forward Ines Garcia Monje (6’2, Fr.): 5.8 PPG, 4.5 RPG, 3.2 APG, 1.3 SPG, 41% FG, 9% 3-PT, 33% FT, 22 MPG
  • Guard Angeliki Ziaka (5’9, So.): 3.8 PPG, 0.8 RPG, 1.5 APG, 38 FG%, 40% 3-PT, 75% FT, 16 MPG
  • Forward Candice Lienafa (5’11, So.): 6.8 PPG, 3.2 RPG, 1.2 APG, 48% FG, 25% 3-PT, 65% FT, 15 MPG
  • Guard Elena Alvarez Castellanos (5’6, Fr.): 3.3 PPG, 1.2 RPG, 2.0 APG, 30% FG, 25% 3-PT, 75% FT, 13 MPG
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Game Thread: No. 7 Baylor Women’s Basketball Tries to Rebound Against Davidson

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ScottyB_The_Baylor_King
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Well Nicki Collen was asked about the scheduling the post game radio interview on Sunday against Le Moyne. She admitted she might not do the type of scheduling again.

Not sure she admitted that in the press conference after the Le Moyne game or not, but there is the answer on the scheduling part.
Bear3
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I agree. This year it was a lot of traveling in a short period of time and that seemed to wear out coaches and players.
bawitdaball
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CNC bailed out. Bella is going to have to score for this team to have any type of success. Hopefully she is just tired. But wow, preparing for a painfully long season. Not sure I see a reason, as a high school senior, to pick BU. Lack of discipline shows through tenfold. We need to find a second scorer in the portal next year or I fear Scott will move on. She could easily be on a SC or USC team and have an impact with the possibility of winning a NCAA championship. Not sure anyone signing with Baylor has that listed as a realistic goal.
fredbear
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All that now comes down to NIL. BU is consistently ranked, talented players get to play. Facilities are great! Coach is endearing. Wins are frequent. And good players don't rot on a 15 player bench. Lot's of reasons to play at BU. And yes NC knows what it is like at the next level, WNBA. And she knows how to get you there. Brand new state of the Art arena and training facilities.
blackie
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Elite HS players are not shunning the BU WBB program, per se. They are shunning the money that BU can offer in NIL. If there was not interest in the Baylor WBB program, we wouldn't be getting visits from these players. In numerous cases, we have been in the final 3 considered. In seems to be pretty obvious we don't have the NIL money to get these players without being put in the position of not having enough to be able to also keep the top players already on the team that we want to keep.

The top programs have both the established program PLUS ample amounts of NIL money to attract top players from both HS and the portal. In some cases you even see players for whom the latter factor is more important than the former.

Programs like BU that just doesn't have the money to do both (get the elite HS players and keep your roster in tact) is just better off, IMO, to get players from the portal that have found being on the bench at other programs is not what they want and have proven their HS career was not a false flag that renders then a disappointment at the college level. I like what we have this year because we have some good players from the portal that are not seniors, giving you the chance to build around and with them.

You just can't look at HS recruiting the same way you did just a few years ago. It is just different. I wish we had the money to throw at these HS recruits, but we don't, and it may get worse in the short term. With all the turmoil with the AD and football program, some of the money that might have gone to NIL for WBB will get held back for coaching buyouts (both for the exiting coach and having to pay the buyout at their previous school for the incoming coach).
blackie
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Not sure anyone signing with Baylor has that listed as a realistic goal.

That is the case for the vast majority of the D1 programs and totally true for every team in our conference. Outside of UConn, SC, UT, LSU and a few others, that is pretty much the situation. And those few teams have only so many roster spots and even less spots where a new HS player is going to see a lot of playing time. The rest of those top players will end up at schools that may be historically good, but in any objective evaluation don't realistically have a NC in their future. Anyone expect Tennessee or Notre Dame to be a realistic option anymore?

Parity was starting to come around pretty good even at the top, then NIL came in and allowed the rich to get richer. It provided another reason, a big monetary reason, for a HS recruit to not take a chance on a lesser program, if you had the opportunity presented to you to join teams like those I mentioned above. The parity has been coming up from below and, I think, has hit a cap because of NIL that is making it very difficult for those outside the top 8 or so to break out to have a realistic chance for a national championship.
blackie
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Seems like coaches in all sports could use an advisor on the sidelines.

They already do....they are called assistant coaches.

One reason I have heard for not fouling was that there is a concern that the player shooting two shots, makes the first shot and misses (likely intentional) the second. The team behind grabs the rebound and makes a put-back (to tie the game) and is fouled in the process.....allowing the team behind to get four points out of the possession and the lead.

You could also run into a situation in fouling that almost bit us in the butt yesterday, would be a situation where the team leading intentionally fouls, but the player fouling is off balance, trips or whatever and the foul results in action that could be classified by an official to be a flagrant one....resulting in two free throws and the ball....giving the chance to have a 4-point possession and winning the game.

I am sure different coaches have different philosophies based on past experiences, but I have seen more often than not to let it play out (not intentionally foul).
LTBear19
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blackie said:

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Seems like coaches in all sports could use an advisor on the sidelines.

They already do....they are called assistant coaches.

One reason I have heard for not fouling was that there is a concern that the player shooting two shots, makes the first shot and misses (likely intentional) the second. The team behind grabs the rebound and makes a put-back (to tie the game) and is fouled in the process.....allowing the team behind to get four points out of the possession and the lead.

You could also run into a situation in fouling that almost bit us in the butt yesterday, would be a situation where the team leading intentionally fouls, but the player fouling is off balance, trips or whatever and the foul results in action that could be classified by an official to be a flagrant one....resulting in two free throws and the ball....giving the chance to have a 4-point possession and winning the game.

I am sure different coaches have different philosophies based on past experiences, but I have seen more often than not to let it play out (not intentionally foul).

Maybe I should have been more clear.

Coaches need 'Independent' advisors, as assistants can still end up being 'yes-men' and don't want to be seen as showing up the boss.

With an independent advisor, they'd basically be giving you non-biased, common sense guidance. And as a coach, you could take it or leave it.

Oftentimes, we see too many coaches become fans in crucial moments or don't think things through properly, and it ends up costing a team in critical moments.

Case in point - in yesterday's football game, it sure would have been nice if someone had been in Dave Aranda's ear and suggested he at least challenge or question the called 'Josh Cameron non-catch' when we were down by 11.

Not that we would have won, but just standing there and not saying anything pretty much sealed the deal in Tucson.


As for the 'foul when up 3' strategy, you should still go that route EVERY time.

When we're talking about intentionally missing free throws, getting the loose-ball rebound, and making a shot afterwards, the likelihood of all that happening is much less than a player hitting a single 3 to tie a game.

A number of things have to go just right for the former to play out in your opponent's favor.

With the latter, only ONE thing needs to happen.
blackie
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LTBear19 said:

blackie said:

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Seems like coaches in all sports could use an advisor on the sidelines.

They already do....they are called assistant coaches.

One reason I have heard for not fouling was that there is a concern that the player shooting two shots, makes the first shot and misses (likely intentional) the second. The team behind grabs the rebound and makes a put-back (to tie the game) and is fouled in the process.....allowing the team behind to get four points out of the possession and the lead.

You could also run into a situation in fouling that almost bit us in the butt yesterday, would be a situation where the team leading intentionally fouls, but the player fouling is off balance, trips or whatever and the foul results in action that could be classified by an official to be a flagrant one....resulting in two free throws and the ball....giving the chance to have a 4-point possession and winning the game.

I am sure different coaches have different philosophies based on past experiences, but I have seen more often than not to let it play out (not intentionally foul).

Maybe I should have been more clear.

Coaches need 'Independent' advisors, as assistants can still end up being 'yes-men' and don't want to be seen as showing up the boss.

With an independent advisor, they'd basically be giving you non-biased, common sense guidance. And as a coach, you could take it or leave it.

Oftentimes, we see too many coaches become fans in critical moments or don't think things through properly, and it ends up costing a team in critical moments.

Case in point - in yesterday's football game, it sure would have been nice if someone had been in Dave Aranda's ear and suggested he at least challenge or question the called 'Josh Cameron non-catch' when we were down by 11.

Not that we would have won, but just standing there and not saying anything pretty much sealed the deal in Tucson.


As for the non-foul strategy, you should still go that route EVERY time.

When we're talking about intentionally missing free throws, getting the loose-ball rebound, and making a shot afterwards, the likelihood of all that happening is much less than a player hitting a single 3 to tie a game.

A number of things have to go just right for the former to play out in your opponent's favor.

With the latter, only ONE thing needs to happen.

The question you have to answer as a coach however, is what is the worst case scenario and how best do I avoid that? If you let them shoot and they make a lower percentage shot (a three) the game is tied and you go to overtime. If you foul them you could give up 4 points and lose the game. You believe that you should still foul every time, but in the coaching world I think you are just not going to be in the majority, I will say that in some situations I thought fouling might be best myself, but I have seen too many respected coaches let it play out...no fouls to think fouling is always best.

Respectfully, I don't know what to say about this advisor idea. No matter what anyone does, advised or not, many armchair advisors at home are going to still disagree about what should have been done if what was done didn't work out.

The coaches are the ones that know their roster, the strengths and weakness of the players they have...and their physical condition at the time, and the tendencies of the opposition as they have studied in scouting reports.

Athletic staffs already have available to them many scenarios that have been studied outside of game situations. Likely the most prominent example is when you go for 2 in football after a TD. Sure you could go with your gut, which is not data-based, but most will go back to the "book" that tells them when to go for 2, based on time left in the game, the score, etc. Same thing is probably true of the foul or not foul situation, and dozens of other scenarios. Nothing is going to go strictly by the book, but there are percentages of success tied to each alternative.

People scoff at Aranda's analytics, but I am hearing that term mentioned on all types of sports broadcasts. They are trying to come up with pre-planned actions that have been thought through outside of the frenzy of the game situation...and probably more in-depth than some "advisor" could do on the sidelines or courtside in a game situation that does not allow for outside interjection.

I think it is fine for fans to do the what-ifs or should-haves, but we are the least qualified people to make game-time decisions vs. professionals who have spent years in game situations, hundreds of discussions with other coaches, and multiple coaching clinics. Even if workable and I do not think it is in an in-game situation, how do you decide which coaches need "advisors"? Would you want to tell Mulkey or Auriemma or Staley or Pat in her day, they should confer with an advisor outside their coaching staff to make a decision? All have made what fans think are poor in-game decisions that didn't work. Their advisor is their coaching staff, which they have selected themselves to help them make some of these decisions, expecting that those will provide alternatives to consider if such alternatives exist.
LTBear19
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And just how many times have you seen the miss, rebound, and make, resulting in 4 points?

Like you, I've been watching basketball for a long time, and I can probably count on one hand the number of times that situation has played out exactly as such.

However, there have been countless times EACH year where we've witnessed a 'don't foul' scenario backfire. Such as yesterday with our own team.

So it seems like allowing a team to tie the game is going to be a worst-case scenario 9 out of 10 times. Especially if your opponent has a couple of shooters who hit at a 35-40% clip from 3.

As for the advisor thing - yes, some coaches have proven they need help from time to time, as their decision-making has been suspect on occasion.

Unlike you, I realize that coaches are human just like all of us, and make mistakes like everyone else.

Having said that, there are some coaches who have proven they know what they are doing, and their decision-making is almost always sound.

This list includes the GOATS: Geno, Pat, Saban, and Belichick (with the Pats).

Very rarely have I watched them coach and ended up scratching my head at their calls.

Sure, they made mistakes from time to time, but their losses were primarily tied to lack of player execution - which is all I can ask of a coach.

As a coach, make sure your decisions put your team in the best position to win, and let the chips fall where they may.

Unfortunately, we've had several coach's make some head-scratching decisions in recent years, and yes, that includes Kim Mulkey.
bawitdaball
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fredbear said:

All that now comes down to NIL. BU is consistently ranked, talented players get to play. Facilities are great! Coach is endearing. Wins are frequent. And good players don't rot on a 15 player bench. Lot's of reasons to play at BU. And yes NC knows what it is like at the next level, WNBA. And she knows how to get you there. Brand new state of the Art arena and training facilities.

She knows how to get you there? Outside of Mulkey's recruits that she inherited year one, has any Baylor grad made a roster since she arrived? This is an honest question. I don't know of any, but I could be overlooking something. I have always felt that Mulkey ran a college offense. So her players didn't always transfer well (Brown, Cox, Landry etc.) but she won at the college level so I always felt players were choosing that experience. If you aren't winning NCAA championships and aren't preparing for the next level - what exactly are you selling?

Again, all honest questions. I just don't really understand her pitch. She originally had the "I've coached at the next level, I know how to prepare you." But I don't see Buggs or Fontlaroy making a roster - even with the expansion. And their freshman year I felt both were a shoe in. So not sure how she sells development. Right now she is trying to portal her way to a roster.
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LTBear19 said:

blackie said:

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Seems like coaches in all sports could use an advisor on the sidelines.

They already do....they are called assistant coaches.

One reason I have heard for not fouling was that there is a concern that the player shooting two shots, makes the first shot and misses (likely intentional) the second. The team behind grabs the rebound and makes a put-back (to tie the game) and is fouled in the process.....allowing the team behind to get four points out of the possession and the lead.

You could also run into a situation in fouling that almost bit us in the butt yesterday, would be a situation where the team leading intentionally fouls, but the player fouling is off balance, trips or whatever and the foul results in action that could be classified by an official to be a flagrant one....resulting in two free throws and the ball....giving the chance to have a 4-point possession and winning the game.

I am sure different coaches have different philosophies based on past experiences, but I have seen more often than not to let it play out (not intentionally foul).

Maybe I should have been more clear.

Coaches need 'Independent' advisors, as assistants can still end up being 'yes-men' and don't want to be seen as showing up the boss.

With an independent advisor, they'd basically be giving you non-biased, common sense guidance. And as a coach, you could take it or leave it.

Oftentimes, we see too many coaches become fans in crucial moments or don't think things through properly, and it ends up costing a team in critical moments.

Case in point - in yesterday's football game, it sure would have been nice if someone had been in Dave Aranda's ear and suggested he at least challenge or question the called 'Josh Cameron non-catch' when we were down by 11.

Not that we would have won, but just standing there and not saying anything pretty much sealed the deal in Tucson.


As for the 'foul when up 3' strategy, you should still go that route EVERY time.

When we're talking about intentionally missing free throws, getting the loose-ball rebound, and making a shot afterwards, the likelihood of all that happening is much less than a player hitting a single 3 to tie a game.

A number of things have to go just right for the former to play out in your opponent's favor.

With the latter, only ONE thing needs to happen.



The foul when up by 3 should be an EVERY time for WBB. Not even a question. And the players should be prepared for that. The biggest issue/question I have at this point in the season is discipline and just overall preparedness. This is an older team. These players should know basketball fundamentals. I often felt Andrews had gone back a few pegs to her high school days after CNC took over. I think she was having more fun, but I also think that goes hand in hand with disciple. I don't see high bsketball IQ or discipline from this team as of right now. Hope that changes. But I fear CNC is more concerned with being a friend than a coach. She's an amazing person - but I want someone with a little fire.
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bawitdaball said:

LTBear19 said:

blackie said:

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Seems like coaches in all sports could use an advisor on the sidelines.

They already do....they are called assistant coaches.

One reason I have heard for not fouling was that there is a concern that the player shooting two shots, makes the first shot and misses (likely intentional) the second. The team behind grabs the rebound and makes a put-back (to tie the game) and is fouled in the process.....allowing the team behind to get four points out of the possession and the lead.

You could also run into a situation in fouling that almost bit us in the butt yesterday, would be a situation where the team leading intentionally fouls, but the player fouling is off balance, trips or whatever and the foul results in action that could be classified by an official to be a flagrant one....resulting in two free throws and the ball....giving the chance to have a 4-point possession and winning the game.

I am sure different coaches have different philosophies based on past experiences, but I have seen more often than not to let it play out (not intentionally foul).

Maybe I should have been more clear.

Coaches need 'Independent' advisors, as assistants can still end up being 'yes-men' and don't want to be seen as showing up the boss.

With an independent advisor, they'd basically be giving you non-biased, common sense guidance. And as a coach, you could take it or leave it.

Oftentimes, we see too many coaches become fans in crucial moments or don't think things through properly, and it ends up costing a team in critical moments.

Case in point - in yesterday's football game, it sure would have been nice if someone had been in Dave Aranda's ear and suggested he at least challenge or question the called 'Josh Cameron non-catch' when we were down by 11.

Not that we would have won, but just standing there and not saying anything pretty much sealed the deal in Tucson.


As for the 'foul when up 3' strategy, you should still go that route EVERY time.

When we're talking about intentionally missing free throws, getting the loose-ball rebound, and making a shot afterwards, the likelihood of all that happening is much less than a player hitting a single 3 to tie a game.

A number of things have to go just right for the former to play out in your opponent's favor.

With the latter, only ONE thing needs to happen.



The foul when up by 3 should be an EVERY time for WBB. Not even a question. And the players should be prepared for that. The biggest issue/question I have at this point in the season is discipline and just overall preparedness. This is an older team. These players should know basketball fundamentals. I often felt Andrews had gone back a few pegs to her high school days after CNC took over. I think she was having more fun, but I also think that goes hand in hand with disciple. I don't see high bsketball IQ or discipline from this team as of right now. Hope that changes. But I fear CNC is more concerned with being a friend than a coach. She's an amazing person - but I want someone with a little fire.



I agree. This has been a trend of hers since she has gotten here. We all want her to succeed. I think it just isn't going to happen for her here. It won't be with this roster. Great one on one player, no scoring inside, and lack 3 point shooting. Not a good mix.
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