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Gameday Thread: Baylor at TCU

November 24, 2017
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BAYLOR (1-10) vs. TCU (9-2)

Amon G. Carter Stadium | 11:00 p.m. CT | FS1

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28 of 44 Depth Chart Spots Filled by Underclassmen

In the mid-week depth chart released by Baylor football prior to the final game of the 2017 football season, a total of 28 freshmen and sophomores were listed in the 44 available offensive and defensive positions.

The season has been a disappointing one for Matt Rhule's first in Waco, but the encouragement that comes from developing youth of a program that was challenged with player departures and dismissals over the last 18 months. The departures allowed for several underclassmen to play key roles throughout the season.

On offense a total of 13 freshmen and sophomore are listed in the 22 spots while on defense a total of 15 have made the depth chart. Highlighting the offensive groups is freshman QB Charlie Brewer, sophomore WR Denzel Mims and LG Xavier Newman. On defense sophomore DT Tyrone Hunt, sophomore LB Jordan Williams, freshman LB Jalen Pitre and sophomore CB Grayland Arnold are among the biggest contributors.

The theme for the matchup with TCU doesn't stray far from the theme for the entire season. A total of 33 freshmen and sophomore have earned starts, including 10 true freshmen.


SIDENOTE STORYLINE

Charlie Brewer gets fourth start against elite TCU defense

Heading into start No. 4 of his young career, Baylor freshman quarterback Charlie Brewer will need to be efficient and consistent if the Bears have any chance of finding victory against the TCU Horned Frogs on Black Friday. 

In his first three starts, Brewer has thrown for 310.0 yards per game on 71.8-percent completion with 7 touchdowns to only two interceptions. On the entire season Brewer has thrown for 1,261 yards with 9 touchdowns and 3 interceptions and led Baylor to their lone victory over the season against Kansas, 38-9.

Since taking over full time, Baylor's offense has averaged 436.3 yards of total offense while averaging 25 points per game. The biggest issues for Brewer in the three starts has been the protection of the football. Despite not having a single turnover in his start against Kansas, Brewer has been responsible for four total against Texas Tech and Iowa State, three of which came in the red zone.


MATT RHULE QUOTE OF THE WEEK

On the progress made in recent weeks...

“Yeah even on Saturday I think we had two ridiculous, our guys would say, pass plays which we would like to have back. You take that away, for being down some guys, I thought our guys hung in there and competed. I think it’s clicking for a lot of guys. I think our corners played at a high, high level on Saturday. You’re playing with some veterans out there who have played a lot of football, but it’s just such a different way of playing defense, not better not worse just different, that takes time to get adjusted to. It takes time for all the communication and the checks. They’re getting it. You’d love to go play another four or five games to help them get it. This will continue to develop through the offseason. It’ll continue to develop through the spring. They’ll look back in a year and be like, ‘oh my goodness, look where we were to where we are now.’ I did that for them after the Oklahoma State game film. I think I told you guys. Oklahoma State, we were upset. There were some questions. Why do we practice as hard as we do if we’re not getting the results we wanted? I had to go back and show them the football, not the results, but just the football and how much it had improved. And it’s come that far since then. Now you’ve lost some guys. You’ve lost some good players, but the guys that are out there playing have just improved, and improved, and improved. You look up this time next year, and Lenoy [Jones] and Jordan Williams, they won’t recognize themselves. They’re playing well, but they’ll be playing that much better. Our defensive line, they won’t recognize themselves. It takes time, but everyday kind of compounds on the day before.”


PLAYERS TO WATCH

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Charlie Brewer

Baylor will need to protect the football against a TCU team who presents the best defense in the Big 12. If Brewer can lead the offense efficiently, the Bears could have a chance for an upset in the final game of the 2017 season.

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Offensive Line

Protecting the football begins with protecting the quarterback. TCU is the best pass-rushing team in the Big 12 and the Baylor OL will need to find a way to keep Brewer off of his back in obvious passing situations.

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Connor Martin

The chances of Baylor putting up a significant amount of points against TCU is small, meaning field position will be crucial on Friday. Punter/placekicker Connor Martin has had more success kicking field goals than punting, but he hasn't been too shabby when trying to flip field position.

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JaMycal Hasty

Hasty has emerged as Baylor's lead back in the last two games and will likely get the lion's share of the carries against TCU on Friday. His shiftiness will be useful, but so will his ability to catch passes out of the backfield against a very sound defense.

Discussion from...

Gameday Thread: Baylor at TCU

77,537 Views | 460 Replies | Last: 6 yr ago by YoakDaddy
SIC EM 94
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Damn good half Bears...keep fighting! Oh to be a fly on the wall, or Patterson's fatass, in the Frog's locker room!
RioRata
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tommie said:

IndyYes said:

Does the basketball goal have something to do with Ish Wainright?


No. He played on man goals. How long before someone gets hurt?

Fhule says injuries are important to The Process.
william
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is that roast I smell cookin' granny?

- nave diehaus

D!
BellCountyBear
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If not for the refs, we would likely be ahead 23-21 right now.
Jacques Strap
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With that overturned FG attempt call we would likely be ahead at the half. That dump off to Ebner has worked well. On a couple of Bosen sacks he was available if CB had been able to locate him.

Good first half. Hope for an equally good 2nd from the Bears and the refs to just not hose us so bad.
YoakDaddy
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TCU has allowed 0 points in the 2nd half of the last 5 games. Hopefully we can break that streak.
Mitch Blood Green
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Not too bad. One missed FG and an TD called back.

Hope we hold up.
geoman
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RioRata said:

atkron195 said:

If this game is close late in the 4th quarter, the refs will not let us win this game.

They have their marching orders. ThereThere's a championship game to protect.
Hopefully we can monkey wrench them by not disappearing in Q3.
boognish_bear
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There was a point mid-way through the Q2 where it just felt like TCU was about to bust this thing open.

Major props to CMR and the players for hanging tough and going toe-to-toe w the #12 team in their backyard.

Confidence is growing on the O side of the ball. We get the ball to start the second half. Let's see if we can take the lead on the first drive.
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tommie said:

Not too bad. One missed FG and an TD called back.

Hope we hold up.


Same here, other than scoring a TD, that is a gteat way to end the half and to get prepared to get the ball back after.
ImwithBU
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Gotta be happy with this effort so far. This Bosen kid is killing us, I remember when we recruited him, he just had the look of an NFL DR. For all the excitement the coaching staff had about Porter he really hasn't been that solid. Wonder if he just looked great in comparison to the younger player
Jacques Strap
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Please just this one time I'd like to see CGP rip into his players and for them to just say screw it and just mail it in and play poorly. LOL
JusHappy2BeHere
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good half.... I'm proud of the way these guys compete.
"When I despair, I remember that all through history the ways of truth and love have always won. There have been tyrants, and murderers, and for a time they can seem invincible, but in the end they always fall. Think of it--always."

Mahatma Gandhi
Jacques Strap
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ImwithBU said:

Gotta be happy with this effort so far. This Bosen kid is killing us, I remember when we recruited him, he just had the look of an NFL DR. For all the excitement the coaching staff had about Porter he really hasn't been that solid. Wonder if he just looked great in comparison to the younger player
I thought Porter was injured and out for the year. Maybe not 100%
Doc Holliday
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boognish_bear said:

Really impressive company Brewer finds himself with in this stat. I think CMR found us a winner bringing this kid in...


Best High school QB in history technically.
Boatshoes
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Brewer is a great talent. Different set of circumstances and he might have had a shot at a Heisman in his college career.
Jacques Strap
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BEAR RAMMAGE said:

boognish_bear said:

Really impressive company Brewer finds himself with in this stat. I think CMR found us a winner bringing this kid in...


Best High school QB in history technically.
I would be happy for him to wind up the best QB in college football technically.
boognish_bear
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There has to be a meltdown brewer-ing over on KF right about now with a guaranteed trip to the B12 Title game in the balance.
ImwithBU
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Jacques Strap said:

BEAR RAMMAGE said:

boognish_bear said:

Really impressive company Brewer finds himself with in this stat. I think CMR found us a winner bringing this kid in...


Best High school QB in history technically.
I would be happy for him to wind up the best QB in college football technically.


Well I quoted the wrong person, this was in response to boatshoes
I'm not sold on Rhule, but he still has another year to turn this thing around. Gotta admit if nothing else he can recruit. His freshman although expectantly weak have been impressive.
Jacques Strap
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Damn I don't miss tht lip sync troll one bit. How awesome would it be to beat TCU and have you know who banned on the same day.
ilbb990912
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Somebody block that dang Hippie!!
boognish_bear
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Anyone here at Amon G? What's the mood in the stands.

Yesterday I was thinking about getting tickets and taking my kids...now wishing I had.
Jacques Strap
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CMRs history demands he go 2-10 in season one so bet the farm boys and chill the champagne.
FWBear91
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Fans areojnd me are shocked and a bit quiet. No one expected a close game. Very few even on this board had Baylor in the game!

But me........

I BELIEVE!!!!!
Boatshoes
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Jacques Strap said:

CMRs history demands he go 2-10 in season one so bet the farm boys.


I'd agree with you but I suspect the ability to adjust in the home locker room is greater than that in the visitors.
JusHappy2BeHere
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boognish_bear said:

There has to be a meltdown brewer-ing over on KF right about now with a guaranteed trip to the B12 Title game in the balance.

the only comment I saw about the defensive holding that wouldn't have even been illegal contact in the NFL was, "about time! they hold every play!"
"When I despair, I remember that all through history the ways of truth and love have always won. There have been tyrants, and murderers, and for a time they can seem invincible, but in the end they always fall. Think of it--always."

Mahatma Gandhi
Jacques Strap
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Watching on TV... did everyone leave the stadium at the half or was it always empty?
Bear8084
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Boatshoes said:

Brewer is a great talent. Different set of circumstances and he might have had a shot at a Heisman in his college career.


Still does.
Jacques Strap
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Boatshoes said:

Jacques Strap said:

CMRs history demands he go 2-10 in season one so bet the farm boys.


I'd agree with you but I suspect the ability to adjust in the home locker room is greater than that in the visitors.
Yeah it's a long shot but how sweet would it be to cost them a trip to the title game?
GoldenBear007
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Brewer....turnovers have killed us this year
ImwithBU
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Jacques Strap said:

CMRs history demands he go 2-10 in season one so bet the farm boys and chill the champagne.


A win here would be great for the players and definitely my psyche
Bull
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Ouch! That hurts. Let's step up now D
Boatshoes
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The poor play calling and two and pick to start the third killed us.
Mitch Blood Green
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Boatshoes said:

Brewer is a great talent. Different set of circumstances and he might have had a shot at a Heisman in his college career.


I'd like to see him improve his arm strength. He's a competitor.
Big12boss
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Jacques Strap said:

Damn I don't miss tht lip sync troll one bit. How awesome would it be to beat TCU and have you know who banned on the same day.


Wut
 
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