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Gameday Thread: Baylor at TCU

November 24, 2017
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BAYLOR (1-10) vs. TCU (9-2)

Amon G. Carter Stadium | 11:00 p.m. CT | FS1

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28 of 44 Depth Chart Spots Filled by Underclassmen

In the mid-week depth chart released by Baylor football prior to the final game of the 2017 football season, a total of 28 freshmen and sophomores were listed in the 44 available offensive and defensive positions.

The season has been a disappointing one for Matt Rhule's first in Waco, but the encouragement that comes from developing youth of a program that was challenged with player departures and dismissals over the last 18 months. The departures allowed for several underclassmen to play key roles throughout the season.

On offense a total of 13 freshmen and sophomore are listed in the 22 spots while on defense a total of 15 have made the depth chart. Highlighting the offensive groups is freshman QB Charlie Brewer, sophomore WR Denzel Mims and LG Xavier Newman. On defense sophomore DT Tyrone Hunt, sophomore LB Jordan Williams, freshman LB Jalen Pitre and sophomore CB Grayland Arnold are among the biggest contributors.

The theme for the matchup with TCU doesn't stray far from the theme for the entire season. A total of 33 freshmen and sophomore have earned starts, including 10 true freshmen.


SIDENOTE STORYLINE

Charlie Brewer gets fourth start against elite TCU defense

Heading into start No. 4 of his young career, Baylor freshman quarterback Charlie Brewer will need to be efficient and consistent if the Bears have any chance of finding victory against the TCU Horned Frogs on Black Friday. 

In his first three starts, Brewer has thrown for 310.0 yards per game on 71.8-percent completion with 7 touchdowns to only two interceptions. On the entire season Brewer has thrown for 1,261 yards with 9 touchdowns and 3 interceptions and led Baylor to their lone victory over the season against Kansas, 38-9.

Since taking over full time, Baylor's offense has averaged 436.3 yards of total offense while averaging 25 points per game. The biggest issues for Brewer in the three starts has been the protection of the football. Despite not having a single turnover in his start against Kansas, Brewer has been responsible for four total against Texas Tech and Iowa State, three of which came in the red zone.


MATT RHULE QUOTE OF THE WEEK

On the progress made in recent weeks...

“Yeah even on Saturday I think we had two ridiculous, our guys would say, pass plays which we would like to have back. You take that away, for being down some guys, I thought our guys hung in there and competed. I think it’s clicking for a lot of guys. I think our corners played at a high, high level on Saturday. You’re playing with some veterans out there who have played a lot of football, but it’s just such a different way of playing defense, not better not worse just different, that takes time to get adjusted to. It takes time for all the communication and the checks. They’re getting it. You’d love to go play another four or five games to help them get it. This will continue to develop through the offseason. It’ll continue to develop through the spring. They’ll look back in a year and be like, ‘oh my goodness, look where we were to where we are now.’ I did that for them after the Oklahoma State game film. I think I told you guys. Oklahoma State, we were upset. There were some questions. Why do we practice as hard as we do if we’re not getting the results we wanted? I had to go back and show them the football, not the results, but just the football and how much it had improved. And it’s come that far since then. Now you’ve lost some guys. You’ve lost some good players, but the guys that are out there playing have just improved, and improved, and improved. You look up this time next year, and Lenoy [Jones] and Jordan Williams, they won’t recognize themselves. They’re playing well, but they’ll be playing that much better. Our defensive line, they won’t recognize themselves. It takes time, but everyday kind of compounds on the day before.”


PLAYERS TO WATCH

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Charlie Brewer

Baylor will need to protect the football against a TCU team who presents the best defense in the Big 12. If Brewer can lead the offense efficiently, the Bears could have a chance for an upset in the final game of the 2017 season.

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Offensive Line

Protecting the football begins with protecting the quarterback. TCU is the best pass-rushing team in the Big 12 and the Baylor OL will need to find a way to keep Brewer off of his back in obvious passing situations.

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Connor Martin

The chances of Baylor putting up a significant amount of points against TCU is small, meaning field position will be crucial on Friday. Punter/placekicker Connor Martin has had more success kicking field goals than punting, but he hasn't been too shabby when trying to flip field position.

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JaMycal Hasty

Hasty has emerged as Baylor's lead back in the last two games and will likely get the lion's share of the carries against TCU on Friday. His shiftiness will be useful, but so will his ability to catch passes out of the backfield against a very sound defense.

Discussion from...

Gameday Thread: Baylor at TCU

79,626 Views | 460 Replies | Last: 7 yr ago by YoakDaddy
Mitch Blood Green
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Did Sells just quit?
Bear8084
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tommie said:

Did Sells just quit?


Not a good pursuit angle and just let off.
Boatshoes
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Bear8084 said:

Boatshoes said:

Brewer is a great talent. Different set of circumstances and he might have had a shot at a Heisman in his college career.


Still does.


Unfortunately not. Different program, different team, different staff maybe.
SicThe12
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What inspirational story did CMR tell the team at halftime this week?
Bear8084
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Boatshoes said:

Bear8084 said:

Boatshoes said:

Brewer is a great talent. Different set of circumstances and he might have had a shot at a Heisman in his college career.


Still does.


Unfortunately not. Different program, different team, different staff maybe.


Lol, stop. You've been posting ignorance since 2010. Some of your gems are gone from BF. Too bad.
RioRata
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boognish_bear said:

Really impressive company Brewer finds himself with in this stat. I think CMR found us a winner bringing this kid in...



The credit for Brewer's recruitment should go to Bell and Wetzel but I'm glad Charlie is at Baylor.
Boatshoes
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Bear8084 said:

Boatshoes said:

Bear8084 said:

Boatshoes said:

Brewer is a great talent. Different set of circumstances and he might have had a shot at a Heisman in his college career.


Still does.


Unfortunately not. Different program, different team, different staff maybe.


Lol, stop. You've been posting ignorance since 2010. Some of your gems are gone from BG. Too bad.


It's no secret that a QB playing under Rhules system can't ring up the numbers to get an invite.
SIC EM 94
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Bear8084 said:

Boatshoes said:

Bear8084 said:

Boatshoes said:

Brewer is a great talent. Different set of circumstances and he might have had a shot at a Heisman in his college career.


Still does.


Unfortunately not. Different program, different team, different staff maybe.


Lol, stop. You've been posting ignorance since 2010..


Looks like Milli Jr. has joined the game thread. Pull the cord in his back and just watch him spew the Milli rants.
geoman
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Paraphrasing LTC Hal Moore to Brewer:

"Now you forget about that one and keep em coming. You're keeping us alive out here."
Bear8084
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Boatshoes said:

Bear8084 said:

Boatshoes said:

Bear8084 said:

Boatshoes said:

Brewer is a great talent. Different set of circumstances and he might have had a shot at a Heisman in his college career.


Still does.


Unfortunately not. Different program, different team, different staff maybe.


Lol, stop. You've been posting ignorance since 2010. Some of your gems are gone from BG. Too bad.


It's no secret that a QB playing under Rhules system can't ring up the numbers to get an invite.


Only breaking records in his first few starts. We'll see.
Jacques Strap
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Brewer will be a very good QB by the time he is done of he can remain healthy.
YoakDaddy
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Brewer! Holy smoked sausage, Batman! Dude has some wheels!
IndyYes
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Let's score in the red zone this week please!
Bear8084
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SIC EM 94 said:

Bear8084 said:

Boatshoes said:

Bear8084 said:

Boatshoes said:

Brewer is a great talent. Different set of circumstances and he might have had a shot at a Heisman in his college career.


Still does.


Unfortunately not. Different program, different team, different staff maybe.


Lol, stop. You've been posting ignorance since 2010..


Looks like Milli Jr. has joined the game thread. Pull the cord in his back and just watch him spew the Milli rants.


Maybe you should see my posts in the thread first before making blanket claims.
Pale Rider
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Our rbs are so poorly coached it's pathetic.
Jacques Strap
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I hate it when they put the fullback in down near the goal line.
RioRata
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SicThe12 said:

What inspirational story did CMR tell the team at halftime this week?

I like the one about Joe Pa being an uplifting individual, always doing the right thing and never telling a lie.
GoldenBear007
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I shouldn't be able to predict our offensive plays in the red zone from my couch, but the fact that I was able to there is sad. I'll take the points though.
Big12boss
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Pale Rider said:

Our rbs are so poorly coached it's pathetic.


Hasty used to be really good. I hated playing against him in the past but the run game isn't a threat in the new offense.
Boatshoes
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Trading field goals for touchdowns isn't going to win this game.
Bear8084
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Pale Rider said:

Our rbs are so poorly coached it's pathetic.


Maybe, or our line is very subpar to get any push or holes consistently. I do agree we need more angled attacks when in the redzone right now.
Jacques Strap
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I wish we would just throw it 3 times from the 5. Our chances of running it in are low. Give Charlie a chance to make a play.
Bull
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Great run by Brewer, was really hoping he could get in with how bad we've been in the red zone. Good to get some points though
boognish_bear
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Well....I sure didn't think we'd score in the 20s today
BellCountyBear
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Charlie is going to have to win this game all by himself it appears. No running game whatsoever, except for him.
RioRata
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IndyYes said:

Let's score in the red zone this week please!

And Connor Martin is in the Baylor record book.

Go Team!
Bear8084
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Bull said:

Great run by Brewer, was really hoping he could get in with how bad we've been in the red zone. Good to get some points though


Agreed. First points allowed in the 2nd half after 6 games for TCU.
Jacques Strap
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Bull said:

Great run by Brewer, was really hoping he could get in with how bad we've been in the red zone. Good to get some points though
We only seem to get TDs when the play covers more than 20 yards allowing us to sprint through the red zone.
Bull
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Jacques Strap said:

I wish we would just throw it 3 times from the 5. Our chances of running it in are low. Give Charlie a chance to make a play.


I agree, I would like at least a roll out or RPO...or, at least spread out the offense and try to run
boognish_bear
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Our run D has been really solid today
GoldenBear007
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Moral victory, yes, but we did just break TCU's streak of 5 straight weeks of holding their opponent scoreless in the second half
SicThe12
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Jacques Strap said:

Bull said:

Great run by Brewer, was really hoping he could get in with how bad we've been in the red zone. Good to get some points though
We only seem to get TDs when the play covers more than 20 yards allowing us to sprint through the red zone.
thats not on the coaches though
SIC EM 94
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Nice stop Defense, here we go Bears!
Feel The Floyd
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Come on bears, force a turnover time
Jacques Strap
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Good defense now let's score from long distance and avoid the red zone.
 
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