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Gameday Thread: Baylor at TCU

November 24, 2017
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BAYLOR (1-10) vs. TCU (9-2)

Amon G. Carter Stadium | 11:00 p.m. CT | FS1

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28 of 44 Depth Chart Spots Filled by Underclassmen

In the mid-week depth chart released by Baylor football prior to the final game of the 2017 football season, a total of 28 freshmen and sophomores were listed in the 44 available offensive and defensive positions.

The season has been a disappointing one for Matt Rhule's first in Waco, but the encouragement that comes from developing youth of a program that was challenged with player departures and dismissals over the last 18 months. The departures allowed for several underclassmen to play key roles throughout the season.

On offense a total of 13 freshmen and sophomore are listed in the 22 spots while on defense a total of 15 have made the depth chart. Highlighting the offensive groups is freshman QB Charlie Brewer, sophomore WR Denzel Mims and LG Xavier Newman. On defense sophomore DT Tyrone Hunt, sophomore LB Jordan Williams, freshman LB Jalen Pitre and sophomore CB Grayland Arnold are among the biggest contributors.

The theme for the matchup with TCU doesn't stray far from the theme for the entire season. A total of 33 freshmen and sophomore have earned starts, including 10 true freshmen.


SIDENOTE STORYLINE

Charlie Brewer gets fourth start against elite TCU defense

Heading into start No. 4 of his young career, Baylor freshman quarterback Charlie Brewer will need to be efficient and consistent if the Bears have any chance of finding victory against the TCU Horned Frogs on Black Friday. 

In his first three starts, Brewer has thrown for 310.0 yards per game on 71.8-percent completion with 7 touchdowns to only two interceptions. On the entire season Brewer has thrown for 1,261 yards with 9 touchdowns and 3 interceptions and led Baylor to their lone victory over the season against Kansas, 38-9.

Since taking over full time, Baylor's offense has averaged 436.3 yards of total offense while averaging 25 points per game. The biggest issues for Brewer in the three starts has been the protection of the football. Despite not having a single turnover in his start against Kansas, Brewer has been responsible for four total against Texas Tech and Iowa State, three of which came in the red zone.


MATT RHULE QUOTE OF THE WEEK

On the progress made in recent weeks...

“Yeah even on Saturday I think we had two ridiculous, our guys would say, pass plays which we would like to have back. You take that away, for being down some guys, I thought our guys hung in there and competed. I think it’s clicking for a lot of guys. I think our corners played at a high, high level on Saturday. You’re playing with some veterans out there who have played a lot of football, but it’s just such a different way of playing defense, not better not worse just different, that takes time to get adjusted to. It takes time for all the communication and the checks. They’re getting it. You’d love to go play another four or five games to help them get it. This will continue to develop through the offseason. It’ll continue to develop through the spring. They’ll look back in a year and be like, ‘oh my goodness, look where we were to where we are now.’ I did that for them after the Oklahoma State game film. I think I told you guys. Oklahoma State, we were upset. There were some questions. Why do we practice as hard as we do if we’re not getting the results we wanted? I had to go back and show them the football, not the results, but just the football and how much it had improved. And it’s come that far since then. Now you’ve lost some guys. You’ve lost some good players, but the guys that are out there playing have just improved, and improved, and improved. You look up this time next year, and Lenoy [Jones] and Jordan Williams, they won’t recognize themselves. They’re playing well, but they’ll be playing that much better. Our defensive line, they won’t recognize themselves. It takes time, but everyday kind of compounds on the day before.”


PLAYERS TO WATCH

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Charlie Brewer

Baylor will need to protect the football against a TCU team who presents the best defense in the Big 12. If Brewer can lead the offense efficiently, the Bears could have a chance for an upset in the final game of the 2017 season.

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Offensive Line

Protecting the football begins with protecting the quarterback. TCU is the best pass-rushing team in the Big 12 and the Baylor OL will need to find a way to keep Brewer off of his back in obvious passing situations.

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Connor Martin

The chances of Baylor putting up a significant amount of points against TCU is small, meaning field position will be crucial on Friday. Punter/placekicker Connor Martin has had more success kicking field goals than punting, but he hasn't been too shabby when trying to flip field position.

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JaMycal Hasty

Hasty has emerged as Baylor's lead back in the last two games and will likely get the lion's share of the carries against TCU on Friday. His shiftiness will be useful, but so will his ability to catch passes out of the backfield against a very sound defense.

Discussion from...

Gameday Thread: Baylor at TCU

77,561 Views | 460 Replies | Last: 6 yr ago by YoakDaddy
cowboycwr
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Sunshine pumpers will have a long offseason to deal with. I'm sure they will focus on all the community service hours we do. I'm sure Rhule will also avoid talking football and will deflect with everything else as usual.
SIC EM 94
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Get a stop and blow it by roughing the kicker...just another example of piss poor undisciplined football.
Jacques Strap
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If they kick a FG here we can still cover
Jacques Strap
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Jacques Strap said:

If they kick a FG here we can still cover
But with 9 minutes left...
Boatshoes
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45-22
Pale Rider
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Stupid, stupid, stupid mistakes.
boognish_bear
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No reason for Miller to be talking smack to Hill when we are down 20
Private Pyle
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Spread is 24 right? Man we are doing a good job!!!! Love covering! Who cares about wins when you can cover!
Bear8084
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cowboycwr said:

Sunshine pumpers will have a long offseason to deal with. I'm sure they will focus on all the community service hours we do. I'm sure Rhule will also avoid talking football and will deflect with everything else as usual.
Welcome to the thread. Awesome insight.
BBWCBear
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STUPID, STUPID, STUPID!!! Stopped the series and then roughing the kicker. Toads will score again. Lil' Matty's scrubby cubs just are... #%*^, there just aren't words for it. Tussle on our sideline and we fold and toads just take control and dominate.
Jacques Strap
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Boatshoes said:

45-22
So technically 62-22 still a possibility.
Pale Rider
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cowboycwr said:

Sunshine pumpers will have a long offseason to deal with. I'm sure they will focus on all the community service hours we do. I'm sure Rhule will also avoid talking football and will deflect with everything else as usual.

Why do you care what sunshine pumpers will do?
Brother get a life. Sheesh.
cowboycwr
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Bear8084 said:

cowboycwr said:

Sunshine pumpers will have a long offseason to deal with. I'm sure they will focus on all the community service hours we do. I'm sure Rhule will also avoid talking football and will deflect with everything else as usual.
Welcome to the thread. Awesome insight.


It's better than any insight you ever give.
RioRata
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geewago said:

GoldenBear007 said:

Private Pyle said:

I recall when these gameday threads were 30 plus pages.
Premium board thread appears to have over 1,000 posts.
WOW!! We must be winning over there.

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Jacques Strap
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Private Pyle said:

Spread is 24 right? Man we are doing a good job!!!! Love covering! Who cares about wins when you can cover!
I saw -23.5 and I think it closed at -24.5 but not 100% sure as I'm not smart enough to bet on sports or post on the pay board.
BearTooth
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This is awful
RioRata
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Private Pyle said:

Spread is 24 right? Man we are doing a good job!!!! Love covering! Who cares about wins when you can cover!

Might not cover at this rate.
Boatshoes
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What happened to Brewer?
Jacques Strap
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Not a good pash rush for Zach to try and play against
SIC EM 94
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Weak offensive line and terrible defense...that will get you 1 win a season.
BearTooth
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Boatshoes said:

What happened to Brewer?
Shoulder injury on his last sack
FWBear91
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First three quarters were pretty fun
IndyYes
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I didn't expect to watch Axl Rose tackle Zach Smith today but he just did.
SIC EM 94
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You would think the TCU fans would stick around and enjoy whipping our ass, but the stands are about 40% full.
Mitch Blood Green
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Private Pyle said:

BellCountyBear said:

I thought Rhule was supposed to teach these guys discipline?!


The one's without discipline are Briles guys!!!! The CMR guys are the one's helping the other team up and praying!


That's what I'm seeing. The guy lining up offsides? He was praying.
Bear8084
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cowboycwr said:

Bear8084 said:

cowboycwr said:

Sunshine pumpers will have a long offseason to deal with. I'm sure they will focus on all the community service hours we do. I'm sure Rhule will also avoid talking football and will deflect with everything else as usual.
Welcome to the thread. Awesome insight.


It's better than any insight you ever give.
Not seeing it. More awesome insight.
Jacques Strap
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BearTooth said:

Boatshoes said:

What happened to Brewer?
Shoulder injury on his last sack
I sure hope his career is not marked by great play and also a slew of injurues.
boognish_bear
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Jacques Strap said:

Private Pyle said:

Spread is 24 right? Man we are doing a good job!!!! Love covering! Who cares about wins when you can cover!
I saw -23.5 and I think it closed at -24.5 but not 100% sure as I'm not smart enough to bet on sports or post on the pay board.


30 minutes before kick off it was at 25
RealLarryDon
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I promised myself I wouldn't call out a player, so I deleted the rest of what I wrote.
Jacques Strap
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boognish_bear said:

Jacques Strap said:

Private Pyle said:

Spread is 24 right? Man we are doing a good job!!!! Love covering! Who cares about wins when you can cover!
I saw -23.5 and I think it closed at -24.5 but not 100% sure as I'm not smart enough to bet on sports or post on the pay board.


30 minutes before kick off it was at 25
Can we go with -24.5 so no ties? I mean this is the only thing left to play for.
BearTooth
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Sonny Cumbie is pretty good.
Bull
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BearTooth said:

Sonny Cumbie is pretty good.


Agreed
RioRata
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Get ready for some REAL Baylor futbol


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We're now Lady's Soccor school.
Bear8084
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Boatshoes said:

What happened to Brewer?
Looked like his shoulder.
cowboycwr
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RioRata said:

geewago said:

GoldenBear007 said:

Private Pyle said:

I recall when these gameday threads were 30 plus pages.
Premium board thread appears to have over 1,000 posts.
WOW!! We must be winning over there.

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We will be winners in Rhule's book.
 
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