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Gameday Thread: Baylor (3-1) takes a conference road trip to Oklahoma (4-0)

September 28, 2018
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BAYLOR (3-1) vs. OKLAHOMA (4-0)

Memorial Stadium | 2:30 p.m CT | ABC

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Storylines of the Week

Is the Baylor defense for real?

The Bears came out in the first half against Kansas and held the Jayhawks to 48 total yards of offense. It was the most dominant defensive half in Matt Rhule’s tenure at Baylor. The second half did not go as well but in total Baylor only gave up 271 total yards and seven points. The Bears are now giving up 347.8 yards per game and 23.5 points per game which are ranked 49th and 58th respectively in the nation. The Bears rank 84th in 3rd down defense at 39.7%

Baylor will get tested big time as they travel to take on a team that averages 44.3 points over 500 yards per game. With Kyler Murray, a very talented offensive line, skilled receivers, and a bruising running back the Oklahoma offense is an absolute machine.

A Key Stat to Watch

Baylor gives up a first down on opponents third downs 39.7% of the time which is ranked 84th in the nation. Oklahoma converts on 55.6% of its third down tries which is 8th in the country. This could be a huge factor in the game.

Baylor’s most talented position has to step up

All fall camp we heard that the receivers were the most talented group on the roster and they thought they were too. So far they have played well but this is the perfect matchup for them to take another step. They have steadied the number 18 ranked passing attack in the country. Jalen Hurd, Denzel Mims, and Chris Platt have to win their individual matchups this week and the young receivers off the bench need to contribute as well. This group has the ability to rack up over 250 yards this week and if Baylor wants to win they will have to. 

Oklahoma is a top 10 team but the pass defense has not lived up to that ranking. The Sooners are ranked 64th in the country, giving up 211 passing yards per game despite facing Army last week (they had 40 yards passing on just eight pass attempts). If you do not include the Army game then Oklahoma is giving up 269 yards passing per game which would rank 103rd in the nation. Something has to give one way or another.

Quote of the Week

“I am proud of our team. On Saturday the guys came out and put together a good first half. I am really proud of our defense and how they flew around and did a bunch of good things, like created some negatives had a fourth quarter shut out and bounced back from tremendous adversity when the young man had the long run. We had some big-time efforts in the game. Chris Miller was special in the game, he flew from sideline to sideline making a bunch of great plays and I thought Grayland Arnold’s play on fourth down was a game defining play and it allowed us to have a chance to win. I am pleased with the fact we were able to get to the quarterback, we finished with four sacks and we did a tremendous job with different looks and Phil called a great game. Pleased with our defense and how Charlie handled the game on third down. We have to cut down on the penalties, it’s going to be hard to win going forward with three facemask penalties. I’m excited about the opportunity we have this week and go to Norman and play the defending Big 12 champions.” — Coach Matt Rhule

Statistic of the Week

Baylor sophomore quarterback Charlie Brewer has now started eight games in his career and has an overall record of 4-4 while building on his outstanding freshman season where he threw for 1,562 yards on 68.1-percent passing with 11 touchdowns and four interceptions in eight games played. He also added 166 yards rushing on 65 attempts.

As a sophomore in 2018, Brewer has completed 62.7 percent of his passes for 862 yards with six touchdowns and one interception. He has added 126 yards rushing and two touchdowns on 29 attempts. 

In his eight starts, Brewer has completed 67.7 percent of his passes for 2,093 yards with 15 touchdowns and five interceptions while rushing for 233 yards and two scores on 65 carries. 

By comparison, in the first eight starts of his career, Robert Griffin III passed for 1,563 and 11 touchdowns on 61.8-percent passing while rushing for 602 yards and nine scores on 121 carries.

Players to Watch

Jim Black
Charlie Brewer

It's no secret that Baylor is going to have to score above their average points to leave Oklahoma with a victory Saturday evening. That means Charlie Brewer will need to be on top of his game and keep the chains moving and the Sooners and their offense off the field.

Jim Black
Offensive Line

Scoring points starts with protecting the quarterback and creating just enough push to run the football. The Bears will be down Xavier Newman at left guard, but junior college offensive lineman Johncarlo Valentin will get his first career start at left guard.

Jim Black
Defensive Line

Oklahoma leans on their running game more than many expect which means Baylor's front line will need to be up to the challenge on every single snap. A disruptive game by James Lynch would do wonders in knocking Kyler Murray out of rhythm, but keeping him contained might be a bigger key.

 

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Gameday Thread: Baylor (3-1) takes a conference road trip to Oklahoma (4-0)

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Krieg
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Bear75605 said:

Empty promise like the bowl game this year!


He's like a politician. If you only listen to his words he's great. If you pay attention to anything else you learn the truth.
DAC
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newbear2019 said:

OU is number 6 in the country. How are ya'll comparing them to anyone else in the conference besides WVU...

The others have a pulse?
BearlySpeaking
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THe penalties are ludicrous, but the FG unit's execution on that last play was awesome.
BearConvert
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I guess we now know what they practice the most!
Bear75605
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Got away with that one!
Branch155
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Two big mistakes by Brewer at the end: missing a wide open Hurd for the TD and that last pass

Nice to at least get 3
ColomboLQ
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**** YEAH!!! That's momentum going into halftime!!!
JusHappy2BeHere
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so we practice something at practice every day
"When I despair, I remember that all through history the ways of truth and love have always won. There have been tyrants, and murderers, and for a time they can seem invincible, but in the end they always fall. Think of it--always."

Mahatma Gandhi
EGOTbear
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whew that was as close as I've seen it
Pablo_mondragon
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Despite the missed XP, that was a great effort by Martin. He was completely unbalanced and didn't get his plant foot down.

Shame that Brewer didn't see Hurd wide open
CTbruin
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SATXBear said:

CTbruin said:

SATXBear said:

Krieg said:

DTBear said:

The two QB thing just kills any momentum and puts you down like this. Play one until they show on the field they cannot play.
Everyone in the country gets this except for Rhule and his homers. It's amazing, and a fireable offense in itself imo.


Some of your posts are a joke


Pot....kettle


CT
You pretty much gave up on your school a long time ago.


No. I'm a great fan of everything Baylor. I live close to attend all that I can. Last week went to a softball scrimmage vs MCC.

I support with my attendance and my money.

Your posts are entertaining. Way out of touch with reality.
DTBear
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I know we have given up 28 points but I think the defense is playing okay considering how pathetic the offensive system is. I guess the main ***** is what system? We run plays and play rotations at QB, RB, WRs. What we do not do is try to create mismatches with our guys skills versus the other teams weaknesses. OU is good but we have 6-4 WRs and Platt and we play those guys like they are walk-ons. The dual QB system shows we are searching still. Will be for at least this year. The OL is horrendous. They cannot pass off defenders at all. It is like five guys playing singular with no thought of a "unit".

Offense is just bad.
Bear8084
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TrustTheProcess said:

Brewer needs to transfer. This coach is gonna kill his chances of playing in the NFL.

Fire the guy and let Coach Fred from UMHB finish out the season.


Lol @ these troll accounts.
JusHappy2BeHere
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Bear8084 said:

TrustTheProcess said:

Brewer needs to transfer. This coach is gonna kill his chances of playing in the NFL.

Fire the guy and let Coach Fred from UMHB finish out the season.


Lol @ these troll accounts.


http://www.espn.com/college-football/game?gameId=400547888

"When I despair, I remember that all through history the ways of truth and love have always won. There have been tyrants, and murderers, and for a time they can seem invincible, but in the end they always fall. Think of it--always."

Mahatma Gandhi
NoBSU
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Pablo_mondragon said:

Despite the missed XP, that was a great effort by Martin. He was completely unbalanced and didn't get his plant foot down.

Shame that Brewer didn't see Hurd wide open
Need to get him some lifts in those shoes.
wuzzy bear
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Well if Platt had not done the unforgivable this might be a 10 point game. Good job by Charlie not giving up. They are really putting the pressure on him cuz usually he can out of the pocket and find open guys, but OU has not let get out of the pocket.

Snow has got a major job to do cuz OU's TD's are just so practice like.
Bear8084
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JusHappy2BeHere said:

Bear8084 said:

TrustTheProcess said:

Brewer needs to transfer. This coach is gonna kill his chances of playing in the NFL.

Fire the guy and let Coach Fred from UMHB finish out the season.


Lol @ these troll accounts.


http://www.espn.com/college-football/game?gameId=400547888




Ok. My post is still true.
ColomboLQ
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Kyler Murray at the half:

4 TD passes
1 incompletion

Yoda Snow has him all sorts of confused so far!
wuzzy bear
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Anybody who was a Briles fan just must be yawning right now. I started going to games again when Briles had this team grooving with swagger, It's just so fun when your O can put up 40-50 points a game and make the other team outscore you. Will never see that from Rhule the Mule.
Hotsauce
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Who was the guy screaming at CMR as he was trying to go to the locker room after the FG? It was an older guy in Baylor gear and he was really getting in CMR's face!
JusHappy2BeHere
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wuzzy bear said:

Anybody who was a Briles fan just must be yawning right now. I started going to games again when Briles had this team grooving with swagger, It's just so fun when your O can put up 40-50 points a game and make the other team outscore you. Will never see that from Rhule the Mule.


http://www.espn.com/college-football/game?gameId=400547888
"When I despair, I remember that all through history the ways of truth and love have always won. There have been tyrants, and murderers, and for a time they can seem invincible, but in the end they always fall. Think of it--always."

Mahatma Gandhi
Bear75605
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They on the field reporter for the Baylor radio station.
bear2be2
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ColomboLQ said:

Kyler Murray at the half:

4 TD passes
1 incompletion

Yoda Snow has him all sorts of confused so far!
We're not good or talented enough to stop a team with the weapons that OU has. We basically have to pick whether we're going to try to slow the run or pass at this stage because we can't defend a team that can do both well. It's obvious we've focused on taking away the run game. But doing so puts our DBs in positions they're not equipped to succeed in against these receivers. It is what is. You pick your poison.

On the plus side, it's been nice seeing our D-line get as much pressure as it has. That's going to be a big development when we start playing teams we're closer to in talent level.
JusHappy2BeHere
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bear2be2 said:

ColomboLQ said:

Kyler Murray at the half:

4 TD passes
1 incompletion

Yoda Snow has him all sorts of confused so far!
We're not good or talented enough to stop a team with the weapons that OU has. We basically have to pick whether we're going to try to slow the run or pass at this stage because we can't defend a team that can do both well. It's obvious we've focused on taking away the run game. But doing so puts our DBs in positions they're not equipped to succeed in against these receivers. It is what is. You pick your poison.

On the plus side, it's been nice seeing our D-line get as much pressure as it has. That's going to be a big development when we start playing teams we're closer to in talent level.


http://www.espn.com/college-football/game?gameId=400547888
"When I despair, I remember that all through history the ways of truth and love have always won. There have been tyrants, and murderers, and for a time they can seem invincible, but in the end they always fall. Think of it--always."

Mahatma Gandhi
boognish_bear
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BearConvert said:

I guess we now know what they practice the most!


Maybe they need to divide the time spent on FGs with some time on PATs
Bear8084
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bear2be2 said:

ColomboLQ said:

Kyler Murray at the half:

4 TD passes
1 incompletion

Yoda Snow has him all sorts of confused so far!
We're not good or talented enough to stop a team with the weapons that OU has. We basically have to pick whether we're going to try to slow the run or pass at this stage because we can't defend a team that can do both well. It's obvious we've focused on taking away the run game. But doing so puts our DBs in positions they're not equipped to succeed in against these receivers. It is what is. You pick your poison.

On the plus side, it's been nice seeing our D-line get as much pressure as it has. That's going to be a big development when we start playing teams we're closer to in talent level.


This kind of real football analysis is not allowed here. Only hot takes, knee jerk posts, and trolling are allowed.
bear2be2
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JusHappy2BeHere said:

wuzzy bear said:

Anybody who was a Briles fan just must be yawning right now. I started going to games again when Briles had this team grooving with swagger, It's just so fun when your O can put up 40-50 points a game and make the other team outscore you. Will never see that from Rhule the Mule.


http://www.espn.com/college-football/game?gameId=400547888
I wish we were playing a five-loss OU team with Trevor Knight at quarterback. This game would be a lot closer if we were.
bear2be2
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JusHappy2BeHere said:

bear2be2 said:

ColomboLQ said:

Kyler Murray at the half:

4 TD passes
1 incompletion

Yoda Snow has him all sorts of confused so far!
We're not good or talented enough to stop a team with the weapons that OU has. We basically have to pick whether we're going to try to slow the run or pass at this stage because we can't defend a team that can do both well. It's obvious we've focused on taking away the run game. But doing so puts our DBs in positions they're not equipped to succeed in against these receivers. It is what is. You pick your poison.

On the plus side, it's been nice seeing our D-line get as much pressure as it has. That's going to be a big development when we start playing teams we're closer to in talent level.


http://www.espn.com/college-football/game?gameId=400547888
See my response above.
Doc Holliday
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We will never be good under Rhule.

Accept it. Have patience. Drink beer and don't get your hopes up.

Look forward to the future where we can hire a competent coach.
DAC
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bear2be2 said:

ColomboLQ said:

Kyler Murray at the half:

4 TD passes
1 incompletion

Yoda Snow has him all sorts of confused so far!
We're not good or talented enough to stop a team with the weapons that OU has. We basically have to pick whether we're going to try to slow the run or pass at this stage because we can't defend a team that can do both well. It's obvious we've focused on taking away the run game. But doing so puts our DBs in positions they're not equipped to succeed in against these receivers. It is what is. You pick your poison.

On the plus side, it's been nice seeing our D-line get as much pressure as it has. That's going to be a big development when we start playing teams we're closer to in talent level.

Easier to blame the players but you do realize teams with less talent win every Saturday
bear2be2
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What were you guys expecting from this game? I think anyone who looked at this matchup objectively saw something like this coming. If we can score out of halftime, we'll be in decent shape given the circumstances.
Bear8084
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JusHappy2BeHere said:

bear2be2 said:

ColomboLQ said:

Kyler Murray at the half:

4 TD passes
1 incompletion

Yoda Snow has him all sorts of confused so far!
We're not good or talented enough to stop a team with the weapons that OU has. We basically have to pick whether we're going to try to slow the run or pass at this stage because we can't defend a team that can do both well. It's obvious we've focused on taking away the run game. But doing so puts our DBs in positions they're not equipped to succeed in against these receivers. It is what is. You pick your poison.

On the plus side, it's been nice seeing our D-line get as much pressure as it has. That's going to be a big development when we start playing teams we're closer to in talent level.


http://www.espn.com/college-football/game?gameId=400547888


Psssstttt...just because you post a score from 4 years ago does not make a good argument. Might as well post the score from 15 where we lost at home. Or the 2014 WVU score. There's a team in Italy you might like if you're giving up on this one.
Hotsauce
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Bear75605 said:

They on the field reporter for the Baylor radio station.
It was before that.
BoonDockSaint
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2 blown TD opportunities

***
Bear8084
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Doc Holliday said:

We will never be good under Rhule.

Accept it. Have patience. Drink beer and don't get your hopes up.

Look forward to the future where we can hire a competent coach.


More hot takes. What are the lotto numbers for this week?

 
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