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Update: Waco official tells SicEm365 the city had no involvement in postponement decision

September 19, 2020
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Updated Saturday, Sept. 19, 2020 at 2:41 p.m. CT.

Less than 24 hours ahead of a football contest between Baylor University and the University of Houston scheduled for Saturday inside McLane Stadium, the game was postponed because of COVID-19 concerns, sources tell SicEm365.

According to a source close to the Baylor program, the Bears would have been without a significant portion of a single position group making it unsafe to play. That information was the driving factor behind the cancellation which correlates with the Big 12 protocols that have several specific personnel thresholds a team must meet for certain position groups as well as the entire roster. 

Big 12 teams must have at least 53 players available to play, a minimum of seven offensive linemen and four interior defensive linemen, and at least a single quarterback. Baylor Director of Athletics Mack Rhoades told SicEm365 on Friday afternoon that Baylor did not meet the threshold for one of the specific positions, but did not confirm which position.  

Following the original report on Friday afternoon, SicEm365 spoke with an official from the City of Waco who confirmed it was not a local government decision that postponed the game, citing that because Baylor University is as a private institution, they do not have jurisdiction over the Big 12 program.

The official also clarified that Waco had merely adopted CDC and state protocols and not implemented their own, meaning any protocols that Baylor might be following were not from the local level. Baylor was and continues to be responsible for conducting their own contact tracing, according to the official, not the city.

According to the CDC website, “state and local public health officials will decide how to implement” guidelines put forth by the CDC and are also responsible for advising “specific people, or groups of people, to be tested.” 

Even with all of the guidelines put in place in weeks and month prior, the decision to postpone the game came with extreme frustration.

Specifically, the ultimate factor behind the postponement of the game was a result of contact tracing, not positive results of conducted COVID-19 tests on football players and staff members. Because of the guidelines followed, multiple Baylor players were set to miss the game as a direct result of contact tracing and not due to positive COVID-19 tests, the source said.

Several Baylor players that were set to miss the game did not receive a single positive test, and despite also receiving multiple negative tests in the same time frame, were not allowed to return to team activities because of regulations in place for contact tracing.

Big 12 programs are required to test athletes three times during game weeks to best monitor developing cases. Because of the league guideline in place, multiple Baylor players were set to miss the game against Houston despite the potential of having up to six negative COVID-19 tests over the last two weeks.

On Saturday, following the original release of the report, a source close to Baylor Athletics confirmed to SicEm365 that there were instances of players in contact tracing protocols who tested negative multiple times after coming in contact with an individual who had previously tested positive. Those players were not knowingly exposed to any positive testing persons again. 

An additional frustration, according to a source close to Baylor Athletics, comes from the inability to retest athletes who test positive for COVID-19. The inability to retest prevents checking for false-positive results which have been a regular occurrence when testing for the virus.

Per a release on Sept. 14, Baylor’s athletic department has had 88 positive tests across multiple sports since the beginning of June. Of those, six were currently active including two asymptomatic cases and four symptomatic. According to the release, a total of 23 athletes and staff members across all sports were being monitored for potential cases. 

The news comes less than seven days after Big 12 program and the American Athletic Conference program agreed to play in Waco on Saturday. The programs lost games against Louisiana Tech and Memphis over COVID-19 concerns and the mutual open date was utilized to schedule to game. 

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Update: Waco official tells SicEm365 the city had no involvement in postponement decision

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ImABearToo
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Mack speaking to this on radio now.
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Coronabros have been given another chance...
SIC EM 94
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Who has said Covid is a "hoax or joke"?
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historian said:

The virus is real. My Mom was tested last week because she was in the hospital for something unrelated. Turns out she had had COVID before. Back in February she was very sick for several weeks. We thought it a bad case of bronchitis but realized later that it probably was COVID. Now we have confirmation. Thank God, she is fine now.

A colleague at work & his wife had it over the summer. He was miserable for awhile but thank God they both recovered.

Another colleague lost an in-law to COVID.

Just because you don't have it or know anyone directly who has does not mean it's a hoax. I understand the desire to believe such nonsense in the social/political climate that is 2020 and how this pandemic has been politicized so much. And it's often difficult to know what to believe since the media lies about so much. But the disease is real.


The virus is real. But the 24 hour news cycle has turned it into a monster. I was on a conference call last month with someone in Australia. He kept asking if those of us in Texas were alright. You'd have thought we had bodies in the streets. In reality, Texas has had 15,000 deaths. The vast majority are 60+ years old. A sad and somber number. One worthy of precautions.

But this virus isn't smallpox or Ebola or polio. It is a contagious virus that has nasty symptoms and is dangerous to older Americans.
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RightRevBear said:

CTWallace said:

RightRevBear said:

People on this board have scoffed at previous comments of mine about Covid even though I work in healthcare.

I have a close relative who is a Baylor grad. She is in her mid-20's and in her second year teaching. She is currently hospitalized with Covid-19. She caught it at her school. She is in her mid-20's and does not have other major health issues. Her husband now has it too.

Go ahead call me a snowflake. I don't care. News outlets and politicians from across the spectrum put out false information. What I do know is that people often have to wait to get moved from the emergency department into a room during respiratory season because there aren't rooms available. This is common at hospitals across the nation. It is going to add significant stress to our national healthcare system to care for the Covid patients that we have and the ones with other illnesses this Fall. You can laugh and say it is a hoax, but the 24 year old Baylor grad who is in the hospital because she is struggling to breathe makes you look like a fool.
No idea what your panic porn has to do with cancelling a game between two teams with zero positive tests this week.

I bet you really like bureaucrats.
Because there are idiots in this thread saying it is a hoax. On this very thread people were called leftist because they had differing views. On this very thread it was shown that it is acceptable in this community to dismiss others thoughts by calling them names, instead of actually discussing the issue. You dismissed my thoughts with a statement saying I bet you love bureaucrats. In fact, I do love bureaucrats, because I follow a God who loves everyone. This same God teaches us we should love others too. Now, I don't like bureaucracy, and I think that it often causes waste and harm. I was responding to posts on this thread which is what happens on a message board. I was not responding to the whether or not we can trust tests enough to ignore contact tracing. I was responding to the idiots who have said in this thread that Covid is a joke or a hoax.






You're a lying piece of crap. No one on this thread has said the virus is a hoax. Obviously, many feel the related panic is overblown.

I feel sorry for anyone too stupid to understand the difference.

Try to be more honest and intelligent in the future.
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CTWallace said:

RightRevBear said:

CTWallace said:

RightRevBear said:

People on this board have scoffed at previous comments of mine about Covid even though I work in healthcare.

I have a close relative who is a Baylor grad. She is in her mid-20's and in her second year teaching. She is currently hospitalized with Covid-19. She caught it at her school. She is in her mid-20's and does not have other major health issues. Her husband now has it too.

Go ahead call me a snowflake. I don't care. News outlets and politicians from across the spectrum put out false information. What I do know is that people often have to wait to get moved from the emergency department into a room during respiratory season because there aren't rooms available. This is common at hospitals across the nation. It is going to add significant stress to our national healthcare system to care for the Covid patients that we have and the ones with other illnesses this Fall. You can laugh and say it is a hoax, but the 24 year old Baylor grad who is in the hospital because she is struggling to breathe makes you look like a fool.
No idea what your panic porn has to do with cancelling a game between two teams with zero positive tests this week.

I bet you really like bureaucrats.
Because there are idiots in this thread saying it is a hoax. On this very thread people were called leftist because they had differing views. On this very thread it was shown that it is acceptable in this community to dismiss others thoughts by calling them names, instead of actually discussing the issue. You dismissed my thoughts with a statement saying I bet you love bureaucrats. In fact, I do love bureaucrats, because I follow a God who loves everyone. This same God teaches us we should love others too. Now, I don't like bureaucracy, and I think that it often causes waste and harm. I was responding to posts on this thread which is what happens on a message board. I was not responding to the whether or not we can trust tests enough to ignore contact tracing. I was responding to the idiots who have said in this thread that Covid is a joke or a hoax.





You're a lying piece of crap. No one on this thread has said the virus is a hoax. Obviously, many feel the related panic is overblown.

I feel sorry for anyone too stupid to understand the difference.

Try to be more honest and intelligent in the future.
This
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BearTruth13 said:

historian said:

The virus is real. My Mom was tested last week because she was in the hospital for something unrelated. Turns out she had had COVID before. Back in February she was very sick for several weeks. We thought it a bad case of bronchitis but realized later that it probably was COVID. Now we have confirmation. Thank God, she is fine now.

A colleague at work & his wife had it over the summer. He was miserable for awhile but thank God they both recovered.

Another colleague lost an in-law to COVID.

Just because you don't have it or know anyone directly who has does not mean it's a hoax. I understand the desire to believe such nonsense in the social/political climate that is 2020 and how this pandemic has been politicized so much. And it's often difficult to know what to believe since the media lies about so much. But the disease is real.


The virus is real. But the 24 hour news cycle has turned it into a monster. I was on a conference call last month with someone in Australia. He kept asking if those of us in Texas were alright. You'd have thought we had bodies in the streets. In reality, Texas has had 15,000 deaths. The vast majority are 60+ years old. A sad and somber number. One worthy of precautions.

But this virus isn't smallpox or Ebola or polio. It is a contagious virus that has nasty symptoms and is dangerous to older Americans.
Exactly, but why does that mean we can't walk and chew gum at the same time (i.e. take appropriate reasonable precautions, but not shut down life as we know it until the virus is completely eliminated). It's clear "the cure" we've pursued has been far worse than the virus itself.

I get why the La Tech game got cancelled, but cancelling this game is complete laughable BS. At least as far as the mainstream media goes this non-stop COVID hysteria is going to be greatly diminished if not eliminated altogether starting November 4th, regardless of what the virus is or isn't actually doing at that point.
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H1N1 60.8 million cases and Obummer blamed China. Where was the hysteria and why didn't we close the country?
COVID-29. 25 million Cases And Trump gets blamed and we go into hiding.
Oh forgot one small detail, Obummer awarded a $3.7mm grant to Wuhan Labs. Nothing to see here, move along little sheep.
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Lol. Complete cluster. Blame Baylor, they have been letting students run a muck all semester. We have the one of worse number of COVID numbers in the state per capita.

Look at all your republicans blaming someone else... Baylor is about as red as it gets
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ImwithBU said:

Lol. Complete cluster. Blame Baylor, they have been letting students run a muck all semester. We have the one of worse number of COVID numbers in the state per capita.

Look at all your republicans blaming someone else... Baylor is about as red as it gets


They are 18 year old college kids and a virus that doesn't really affect them. There was never a chance that kids wouldn't spread it if college was open.
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ImwithBU said:

Lol. Complete cluster. Blame Baylor, they have been letting students run a muck all semester. We have the one of worse number of COVID numbers in the state per capita.

Look at all your republicans blaming someone else... Baylor is about as red as it gets


Let's see those statistics because everything I've seen would suggest you are a complete idiot.

https://www.baylor.edu/coronavirus/index.php?id=972342
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CTWallace said:

RightRevBear said:

CTWallace said:

RightRevBear said:

People on this board have scoffed at previous comments of mine about Covid even though I work in healthcare.

I have a close relative who is a Baylor grad. She is in her mid-20's and in her second year teaching. She is currently hospitalized with Covid-19. She caught it at her school. She is in her mid-20's and does not have other major health issues. Her husband now has it too.

Go ahead call me a snowflake. I don't care. News outlets and politicians from across the spectrum put out false information. What I do know is that people often have to wait to get moved from the emergency department into a room during respiratory season because there aren't rooms available. This is common at hospitals across the nation. It is going to add significant stress to our national healthcare system to care for the Covid patients that we have and the ones with other illnesses this Fall. You can laugh and say it is a hoax, but the 24 year old Baylor grad who is in the hospital because she is struggling to breathe makes you look like a fool.
No idea what your panic porn has to do with cancelling a game between two teams with zero positive tests this week.

I bet you really like bureaucrats.
Because there are idiots in this thread saying it is a hoax. On this very thread people were called leftist because they had differing views. On this very thread it was shown that it is acceptable in this community to dismiss others thoughts by calling them names, instead of actually discussing the issue. You dismissed my thoughts with a statement saying I bet you love bureaucrats. In fact, I do love bureaucrats, because I follow a God who loves everyone. This same God teaches us we should love others too. Now, I don't like bureaucracy, and I think that it often causes waste and harm. I was responding to posts on this thread which is what happens on a message board. I was not responding to the whether or not we can trust tests enough to ignore contact tracing. I was responding to the idiots who have said in this thread that Covid is a joke or a hoax.






You're a lying piece of crap. No one on this thread has said the virus is a hoax. Obviously, many feel the related panic is overblown.

I feel sorry for anyone too stupid to understand the difference.

Try to be more honest and intelligent in the future.
Wow, go back and read the first page before you attack somebody.

On the first page, Trusttheprocess wrote:

Quote:

It continues to amaze me how the "sheep" have not yet woken up to the fact that this all is a hoax.
Try to be more intelligent rather than impulsive in the future.
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SIC EM 94 said:

ImwithBU said:

Lol. Complete cluster. Blame Baylor, they have been letting students run a muck all semester. We have the one of worse number of COVID numbers in the state per capita.

Look at all your republicans blaming someone else... Baylor is about as red as it gets


Let's see those statistics because everything I've seen would suggest you are a complete idiot.

https://www.baylor.edu/coronavirus/index.php?id=972342


Baylor has over 700 cases. Have literally shut down floors in dorms and renting out hotels to "quarantine" students. But yeah I'm an idiot
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Karab said:

CTWallace said:

RightRevBear said:

CTWallace said:

RightRevBear said:

People on this board have scoffed at previous comments of mine about Covid even though I work in healthcare.

I have a close relative who is a Baylor grad. She is in her mid-20's and in her second year teaching. She is currently hospitalized with Covid-19. She caught it at her school. She is in her mid-20's and does not have other major health issues. Her husband now has it too.

Go ahead call me a snowflake. I don't care. News outlets and politicians from across the spectrum put out false information. What I do know is that people often have to wait to get moved from the emergency department into a room during respiratory season because there aren't rooms available. This is common at hospitals across the nation. It is going to add significant stress to our national healthcare system to care for the Covid patients that we have and the ones with other illnesses this Fall. You can laugh and say it is a hoax, but the 24 year old Baylor grad who is in the hospital because she is struggling to breathe makes you look like a fool.
No idea what your panic porn has to do with cancelling a game between two teams with zero positive tests this week.

I bet you really like bureaucrats.
Because there are idiots in this thread saying it is a hoax. On this very thread people were called leftist because they had differing views. On this very thread it was shown that it is acceptable in this community to dismiss others thoughts by calling them names, instead of actually discussing the issue. You dismissed my thoughts with a statement saying I bet you love bureaucrats. In fact, I do love bureaucrats, because I follow a God who loves everyone. This same God teaches us we should love others too. Now, I don't like bureaucracy, and I think that it often causes waste and harm. I was responding to posts on this thread which is what happens on a message board. I was not responding to the whether or not we can trust tests enough to ignore contact tracing. I was responding to the idiots who have said in this thread that Covid is a joke or a hoax.






You're a lying piece of crap. No one on this thread has said the virus is a hoax. Obviously, many feel the related panic is overblown.

I feel sorry for anyone too stupid to understand the difference.

Try to be more honest and intelligent in the future.
Wow, go back and read the first page before you attack somebody.

On the first page, Trusttheprocess wrote:

Quote:

It continues to amaze me how the "sheep" have not yet woken up to the fact that this all is a hoax.
Try to be more intelligent rather than impulsive in the future.

What a slimy scumbag you are.

In that same post, he also wrote "only 701 Deaths related solely to Covid 19 can be attributed to anyone under the age 55" which proves he wasn't calling the virus a hoax but just the panic.

It's a little awkward that you were too stupid and dishonest to understand that without my help.
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Karab said:

CTWallace said:

RightRevBear said:

CTWallace said:

RightRevBear said:

People on this board have scoffed at previous comments of mine about Covid even though I work in healthcare.

I have a close relative who is a Baylor grad. She is in her mid-20's and in her second year teaching. She is currently hospitalized with Covid-19. She caught it at her school. She is in her mid-20's and does not have other major health issues. Her husband now has it too.

Go ahead call me a snowflake. I don't care. News outlets and politicians from across the spectrum put out false information. What I do know is that people often have to wait to get moved from the emergency department into a room during respiratory season because there aren't rooms available. This is common at hospitals across the nation. It is going to add significant stress to our national healthcare system to care for the Covid patients that we have and the ones with other illnesses this Fall. You can laugh and say it is a hoax, but the 24 year old Baylor grad who is in the hospital because she is struggling to breathe makes you look like a fool.
No idea what your panic porn has to do with cancelling a game between two teams with zero positive tests this week.

I bet you really like bureaucrats.
Because there are idiots in this thread saying it is a hoax. On this very thread people were called leftist because they had differing views. On this very thread it was shown that it is acceptable in this community to dismiss others thoughts by calling them names, instead of actually discussing the issue. You dismissed my thoughts with a statement saying I bet you love bureaucrats. In fact, I do love bureaucrats, because I follow a God who loves everyone. This same God teaches us we should love others too. Now, I don't like bureaucracy, and I think that it often causes waste and harm. I was responding to posts on this thread which is what happens on a message board. I was not responding to the whether or not we can trust tests enough to ignore contact tracing. I was responding to the idiots who have said in this thread that Covid is a joke or a hoax.






You're a lying piece of crap. No one on this thread has said the virus is a hoax. Obviously, many feel the related panic is overblown.

I feel sorry for anyone too stupid to understand the difference.

Try to be more honest and intelligent in the future.
Wow, go back and read the first page before you attack somebody.

On the first page, Trusttheprocess wrote:

Quote:

It continues to amaze me how the "sheep" have not yet woken up to the fact that this all is a hoax.
Try to be more intelligent rather than impulsive in the future.



I'm assuming the "hoax" he was referring to is the over panicking, not that the virus itself is a "hoax". Maybe he can clarify?
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ImwithBU said:

Lol. Complete cluster. Blame Baylor, they have been letting students run a muck all semester. We have the one of worse number of COVID numbers in the state per capita.

Look at all your republicans blaming someone else... Baylor is about as red as it gets
You must have today's Baylor confused with the Baylor of 30 years ago. Today's Baylor is closer to a TCU. So sad.
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jdkingbear said:

Leftist my ass! Covid has no political affiliation. Go vote for Fat Boy Chump if you wish but don't shovel your BS here.
No, but the way it is handled is ALL political. Don't be naive.
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DanaDane said:

Someone needs to be held accountable for this debacle. Mack Rhoades? Aranda? Dave Snyder?
This is unacceptable.
Bowlsby. It's his rules. Stop blaming us.
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ImwithBU said:

SIC EM 94 said:

ImwithBU said:

Lol. Complete cluster. Blame Baylor, they have been letting students run a muck all semester. We have the one of worse number of COVID numbers in the state per capita.

Look at all your republicans blaming someone else... Baylor is about as red as it gets


Let's see those statistics because everything I've seen would suggest you are a complete idiot.

https://www.baylor.edu/coronavirus/index.php?id=972342


Baylor has over 700 cases. Have literally shut down floors in dorms and renting out hotels to "quarantine" students. But yeah I'm an idiot


Currently active cases: 104
Where do you get the "Baylor has over 700 cases"? There were floors in Martin shut down to quarantine, not entire floors of students that tested positive.
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CTbruin said:

ImABearToo said:

Current Leadership? Where do you see leadership now?Obvious it doesn't exist. Another poorly handled situation courtesy of Baylor's "administration!"


I thought that is what I said
Whoever they are please try your damnedest to get them to ignore current leadership and back Dave and his awesome Bears.
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BearTruth13 said:

RightRevBear said:

People on this board have scoffed at previous comments of mine about Covid even though I work in healthcare.

I have a close relative who is a Baylor grad. She is in her mid-20's and in her second year teaching. She is currently hospitalized with Covid-19. She caught it at her school. She is in her mid-20's and does not have other major health issues. Her husband now has it too.

Go ahead call me a snowflake. I don't care. News outlets and politicians from across the spectrum put out false information. What I do know is that people often have to wait to get moved from the emergency department into a room during respiratory season because there aren't rooms available. This is common at hospitals across the nation. It is going to add significant stress to our national healthcare system to care for the Covid patients that we have and the ones with other illnesses this Fall. You can laugh and say it is a hoax, but the 24 year old Baylor grad who is in the hospital because she is struggling to breathe makes you look like a fool.


You are a snowflake.

My 84 year old grandmother got it at her nursing home and is fully recovered.

It is a deadly virus to 0.02% of the population under 49. Roughly the same chance as dying in a car accident this year.
A few of things. First, I am glad your grandmother survived. I really mean it, and I am not saying this in a rude or disrespectful way.


With that said I could care less about the death rate below 49, because I care about people that are younger than 49, who are currently 49, and who are older than 49. Our current count is 198,000 deaths. In 2018, we had 67,367 drug overdose deaths. The American Lung Association estimated that 154,050 died of lung cancer in 2018. In 2018, 15,820 HIV+ people died from all causes. Doing a little math this means that 19769.75 people died from drug overdoses, lung cancer, and Aids per month in 2018. Our first Covid death was in late February, so in the eight months we have had 24,750 people die from Covid.

Let's apply your logic about Covid to these three issues.We should tell our kids drugs aren't that dangerous, so go ahead and use all you want. Not that many people die from lung cancer, so I'll buy you a pack a day. AIDS doesn't kill that many people, so I want you to have all the unprotected sex you can get. Make sure the girl is on the pill though, because we wouldn't want a pregnancy.


We can argue over the accuracy of these numbers, about comorbidities, etc. Some groups say it is over counting and others are saying it under counts, and both sides have valid points. If you die in a car wreck while Covid+, you should not count as a Covid death. Also, may of our states weren't prepared to track these numbers, and this lead to under counting.









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Wandering.
Karab
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CTWallace said:

Karab said:

CTWallace said:

RightRevBear said:

CTWallace said:

RightRevBear said:

People on this board have scoffed at previous comments of mine about Covid even though I work in healthcare.

I have a close relative who is a Baylor grad. She is in her mid-20's and in her second year teaching. She is currently hospitalized with Covid-19. She caught it at her school. She is in her mid-20's and does not have other major health issues. Her husband now has it too.

Go ahead call me a snowflake. I don't care. News outlets and politicians from across the spectrum put out false information. What I do know is that people often have to wait to get moved from the emergency department into a room during respiratory season because there aren't rooms available. This is common at hospitals across the nation. It is going to add significant stress to our national healthcare system to care for the Covid patients that we have and the ones with other illnesses this Fall. You can laugh and say it is a hoax, but the 24 year old Baylor grad who is in the hospital because she is struggling to breathe makes you look like a fool.
No idea what your panic porn has to do with cancelling a game between two teams with zero positive tests this week.

I bet you really like bureaucrats.
Because there are idiots in this thread saying it is a hoax. On this very thread people were called leftist because they had differing views. On this very thread it was shown that it is acceptable in this community to dismiss others thoughts by calling them names, instead of actually discussing the issue. You dismissed my thoughts with a statement saying I bet you love bureaucrats. In fact, I do love bureaucrats, because I follow a God who loves everyone. This same God teaches us we should love others too. Now, I don't like bureaucracy, and I think that it often causes waste and harm. I was responding to posts on this thread which is what happens on a message board. I was not responding to the whether or not we can trust tests enough to ignore contact tracing. I was responding to the idiots who have said in this thread that Covid is a joke or a hoax.






You're a lying piece of crap. No one on this thread has said the virus is a hoax. Obviously, many feel the related panic is overblown.

I feel sorry for anyone too stupid to understand the difference.

Try to be more honest and intelligent in the future.
Wow, go back and read the first page before you attack somebody.

On the first page, Trusttheprocess wrote:

Quote:

It continues to amaze me how the "sheep" have not yet woken up to the fact that this all is a hoax.
Try to be more intelligent rather than impulsive in the future.

What a slimy scumbag you are.

In that same post, he also wrote "only 701 Deaths related solely to Covid 19 can be attributed to anyone under the age 55" which proves he wasn't calling the virus a hoax but just the panic.

It's a little awkward that you were too stupid and dishonest to understand that without my help.

Calling me dishonest for pointing out the literal application of the word "hoax" which is the topic of discussion in this comment tree.

Take a Xanax, bud. Your railing against the great "panic" is ironically triggering you into name-calling like a child.
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RightRevBear said:

BearTruth13 said:

RightRevBear said:

People on this board have scoffed at previous comments of mine about Covid even though I work in healthcare.

I have a close relative who is a Baylor grad. She is in her mid-20's and in her second year teaching. She is currently hospitalized with Covid-19. She caught it at her school. She is in her mid-20's and does not have other major health issues. Her husband now has it too.

Go ahead call me a snowflake. I don't care. News outlets and politicians from across the spectrum put out false information. What I do know is that people often have to wait to get moved from the emergency department into a room during respiratory season because there aren't rooms available. This is common at hospitals across the nation. It is going to add significant stress to our national healthcare system to care for the Covid patients that we have and the ones with other illnesses this Fall. You can laugh and say it is a hoax, but the 24 year old Baylor grad who is in the hospital because she is struggling to breathe makes you look like a fool.


You are a snowflake.

My 84 year old grandmother got it at her nursing home and is fully recovered.

It is a deadly virus to 0.02% of the population under 49. Roughly the same chance as dying in a car accident this year.
A few of things. First, I am glad your grandmother survived. I really mean it, and I am not saying this in a rude or disrespectful way.


With that said I could care less about the death rate below 49, because I care about people that are younger than 49, who are currently 49, and who are older than 49. Our current count is 198,000 deaths. In 2018, we had 67,367 drug overdose deaths. The American Lung Association estimated that 154,050 died of lung cancer in 2018. In 2018, 15,820 HIV+ people died from all causes. Doing a little math this means that 19769.75 people died from drug overdoses, lung cancer, and Aids per month in 2018. Our first Covid death was in late February, so in the eight months we have had 24,750 people die from Covid.

Let's apply your logic about Covid to these three issues.We should tell our kids drugs aren't that dangerous, so go ahead and use all you want. Not that many people die from lung cancer, so I'll buy you a pack a day. AIDS doesn't kill that many people, so I want you to have all the unprotected sex you can get. Make sure the girl is on the pill though, because we wouldn't want a pregnancy.


We can argue over the accuracy of these numbers, about comorbidities, etc. Some groups say it is over counting and others are saying it under counts, and both sides have valid points. If you die in a car wreck while Covid+, you should not count as a Covid death. Also, may of our states weren't prepared to track these numbers, and this lead to under counting.












Of that 198,000, 121 are age 21 and under. 121! Per the CDC.
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Karab said:

CTWallace said:

Karab said:

CTWallace said:

RightRevBear said:

CTWallace said:

RightRevBear said:

People on this board have scoffed at previous comments of mine about Covid even though I work in healthcare.

I have a close relative who is a Baylor grad. She is in her mid-20's and in her second year teaching. She is currently hospitalized with Covid-19. She caught it at her school. She is in her mid-20's and does not have other major health issues. Her husband now has it too.

Go ahead call me a snowflake. I don't care. News outlets and politicians from across the spectrum put out false information. What I do know is that people often have to wait to get moved from the emergency department into a room during respiratory season because there aren't rooms available. This is common at hospitals across the nation. It is going to add significant stress to our national healthcare system to care for the Covid patients that we have and the ones with other illnesses this Fall. You can laugh and say it is a hoax, but the 24 year old Baylor grad who is in the hospital because she is struggling to breathe makes you look like a fool.
No idea what your panic porn has to do with cancelling a game between two teams with zero positive tests this week.

I bet you really like bureaucrats.
Because there are idiots in this thread saying it is a hoax. On this very thread people were called leftist because they had differing views. On this very thread it was shown that it is acceptable in this community to dismiss others thoughts by calling them names, instead of actually discussing the issue. You dismissed my thoughts with a statement saying I bet you love bureaucrats. In fact, I do love bureaucrats, because I follow a God who loves everyone. This same God teaches us we should love others too. Now, I don't like bureaucracy, and I think that it often causes waste and harm. I was responding to posts on this thread which is what happens on a message board. I was not responding to the whether or not we can trust tests enough to ignore contact tracing. I was responding to the idiots who have said in this thread that Covid is a joke or a hoax.






You're a lying piece of crap. No one on this thread has said the virus is a hoax. Obviously, many feel the related panic is overblown.

I feel sorry for anyone too stupid to understand the difference.

Try to be more honest and intelligent in the future.
Wow, go back and read the first page before you attack somebody.

On the first page, Trusttheprocess wrote:

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It continues to amaze me how the "sheep" have not yet woken up to the fact that this all is a hoax.
Try to be more intelligent rather than impulsive in the future.

What a slimy scumbag you are.

In that same post, he also wrote "only 701 Deaths related solely to Covid 19 can be attributed to anyone under the age 55" which proves he wasn't calling the virus a hoax but just the panic.

It's a little awkward that you were too stupid and dishonest to understand that without my help.

Calling me dishonest for pointing out the literal application of the word "hoax" which is the topic of discussion in this comment tree.

Take a Xanax, bud. Your railing against the great "panic" is ironically triggering you into name-calling like a child.
You made a dishonest argument and I busted you on it.

You weren't capable of understanding the context of what you cut and pasted without my help.
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Bull*****

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CTWallace said:

Karab said:

CTWallace said:

RightRevBear said:

CTWallace said:

RightRevBear said:

People on this board have scoffed at previous comments of mine about Covid even though I work in healthcare.


I have a close relative who is a Baylor grad. She is in her mid-20's and in her second year teaching. She is currently hospitalized with Covid-19. She caught it at her school. She is in her mid-20's and does not have other major health issues. Her husband now has it too.

Go ahead call me a snowflake. I don't care. News outlets and politicians from across the spectrum put out false information. What I do know is that people often have to wait to get moved from the emergency department into a room during respiratory season because there aren't rooms available. This is common at hospitals across the nation. It is going to add significant stress to our national healthcare system to care for the Covid patients that we have and the ones with other illnesses this Fall. You can laugh and say it is a hoax, but the 24 year old Baylor grad who is in the hospital because she is struggling to breathe makes you look like a fool.
No idea what your panic porn has to do with cancelling a game between two teams with zero positive tests this week.

I bet you really like bureaucrats.
Because there are idiots in this thread saying it is a hoax. On this very thread people were called leftist because they had differing views. On this very thread it was shown that it is acceptable in this community to dismiss others thoughts by calling them names, instead of actually discussing the issue. You dismissed my thoughts with a statement saying I bet you love bureaucrats. In fact, I do love bureaucrats, because I follow a God who loves everyone. This same God teaches us we should love others too. Now, I don't like bureaucracy, and I think that it often causes waste and harm. I was responding to posts on this thread which is what happens on a message board. I was not responding to the whether or not we can trust tests enough to ignore contact tracing. I was responding to the idiots who have said in this thread that Covid is a joke or a hoax.






You're a lying piece of crap. No one on this thread has said the virus is a hoax. Obviously, many feel the related panic is overblown.

I feel sorry for anyone too stupid to understand the difference.

Try to be more honest and intelligent in the future.
Wow, go back and read the first page before you attack somebody.

On the first page, Trusttheprocess wrote:

Quote:

It continues to amaze me how the "sheep" have not yet woken up to the fact that this all is a hoax.
Try to be more intelligent rather than impulsive in the future.

What a slimy scumbag you are.

In that same post, he also wrote "only 701 Deaths related solely to Covid 19 can be attributed to anyone under the age 55" which proves he wasn't calling the virus a hoax but just the panic.

It's a little awkward that you were too stupid and dishonest to understand that without my help.



Come on. Even Big Blow Trump couldn't sell that. "This is all a hoax" can't refer to a panic. If there is panic, it can't be a hoax. Trump called the virus a hoax.
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Aliceinbubbleland said:

DanaDane said:

Someone needs to be held accountable for this debacle. Mack Rhoades? Aranda? Dave Snyder?
This is unacceptable.
Bowlsby. It's his rules. Stop blaming us.


But then how have the other Big 12 played games?


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BUBBFAN said:

San Diego Bear said:

The game being canceled is sad news. Yes, The Dude, "Total Bummer!"

What is more sad is enthusiastic support of Trump. I get it if you are a staunch republican. You have legit platform issues that matter to you. I get it. I've been a republican for most of my life, though not currently. I'm Independent. But the enthusiasm for Trump is just baffling.

And:
- Believing in science, including all of the scientific representatives
- Believing that COVID is not a hoax, nor the deaths (pre-existing conditions count as deaths)
- Believing that wearing a mask is the #1 act of love we can all do for each other
...May be against Trump, but it's not leftist. Yet, another McCarthy era scare tactic to go along with Andrew Johnson and Richard Nixon policies, and the Misinformation tactics of the Russian state (How ironic is this by the way). Just sad. So, so sad.
Enthusiasm for Trump is baffling? Enthusiasm for anyone on the Democratic ticket is what is baffling.



Yeah, Trump is a model president for all future Baylor grads and students. Grab their *****, pay off **** buddies, *****foot with every dictator on the earth. .. yeah, who wouldn't be enthusiastic about that guy? "Snowflakes, leftists pinko liberal Com-symps." . .sorry, that was your grandfather Republican conspiracy theorists. It's fun to be back in Middle School and
name-calling, insulting nicknames. . . right?
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SIC EM 94 said:

ImwithBU said:

SIC EM 94 said:

ImwithBU said:

Lol. Complete cluster. Blame Baylor, they have been letting students run a muck all semester. We have the one of worse number of COVID numbers in the state per capita.

Look at all your republicans blaming someone else... Baylor is about as red as it gets


Let's see those statistics because everything I've seen would suggest you are a complete idiot.

https://www.baylor.edu/coronavirus/index.php?id=972342


Baylor has over 700 cases. Have literally shut down floors in dorms and renting out hotels to "quarantine" students. But yeah I'm an idiot


Currently active cases: 104
Where do you get the "Baylor has over 700 cases"? There were floors in Martin shut down to quarantine, not entire floors of students that tested positive.


Hmm reading comprehension. Clearly says floors were shut down... try reading it again slowly
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BearTruth13 said:

RightRevBear said:

BearTruth13 said:

RightRevBear said:

People on this board have scoffed at previous comments of mine about Covid even though I work in healthcare.

I have a close relative who is a Baylor grad. She is in her mid-20's and in her second year teaching. She is currently hospitalized with Covid-19. She caught it at her school. She is in her mid-20's and does not have other major health issues. Her husband now has it too.

Go ahead call me a snowflake. I don't care. News outlets and politicians from across the spectrum put out false information. What I do know is that people often have to wait to get moved from the emergency department into a room during respiratory season because there aren't rooms available. This is common at hospitals across the nation. It is going to add significant stress to our national healthcare system to care for the Covid patients that we have and the ones with other illnesses this Fall. You can laugh and say it is a hoax, but the 24 year old Baylor grad who is in the hospital because she is struggling to breathe makes you look like a fool.


You are a snowflake.

My 84 year old grandmother got it at her nursing home and is fully recovered.

It is a deadly virus to 0.02% of the population under 49. Roughly the same chance as dying in a car accident this year.
A few of things. First, I am glad your grandmother survived. I really mean it, and I am not saying this in a rude or disrespectful way.


With that said I could care less about the death rate below 49, because I care about people that are younger than 49, who are currently 49, and who are older than 49. Our current count is 198,000 deaths. In 2018, we had 67,367 drug overdose deaths. The American Lung Association estimated that 154,050 died of lung cancer in 2018. In 2018, 15,820 HIV+ people died from all causes. Doing a little math this means that 19769.75 people died from drug overdoses, lung cancer, and Aids per month in 2018. Our first Covid death was in late February, so in the eight months we have had 24,750 people die from Covid.

Let's apply your logic about Covid to these three issues.We should tell our kids drugs aren't that dangerous, so go ahead and use all you want. Not that many people die from lung cancer, so I'll buy you a pack a day. AIDS doesn't kill that many people, so I want you to have all the unprotected sex you can get. Make sure the girl is on the pill though, because we wouldn't want a pregnancy.


We can argue over the accuracy of these numbers, about comorbidities, etc. Some groups say it is over counting and others are saying it under counts, and both sides have valid points. If you die in a car wreck while Covid+, you should not count as a Covid death. Also, may of our states weren't prepared to track these numbers, and this lead to under counting.












Of that 198,000, 121 are age 21 and under. 121! Per the CDC.



Dude your yelling at the clouds. Everyone knows young people are not dying in droves. It's their parents and grandparents that are dying
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Bearsnarl said:

CTWallace said:

Karab said:

CTWallace said:

RightRevBear said:

CTWallace said:

RightRevBear said:

People on this board have scoffed at previous comments of mine about Covid even though I work in healthcare.


I have a close relative who is a Baylor grad. She is in her mid-20's and in her second year teaching. She is currently hospitalized with Covid-19. She caught it at her school. She is in her mid-20's and does not have other major health issues. Her husband now has it too.

Go ahead call me a snowflake. I don't care. News outlets and politicians from across the spectrum put out false information. What I do know is that people often have to wait to get moved from the emergency department into a room during respiratory season because there aren't rooms available. This is common at hospitals across the nation. It is going to add significant stress to our national healthcare system to care for the Covid patients that we have and the ones with other illnesses this Fall. You can laugh and say it is a hoax, but the 24 year old Baylor grad who is in the hospital because she is struggling to breathe makes you look like a fool.
No idea what your panic porn has to do with cancelling a game between two teams with zero positive tests this week.

I bet you really like bureaucrats.
Because there are idiots in this thread saying it is a hoax. On this very thread people were called leftist because they had differing views. On this very thread it was shown that it is acceptable in this community to dismiss others thoughts by calling them names, instead of actually discussing the issue. You dismissed my thoughts with a statement saying I bet you love bureaucrats. In fact, I do love bureaucrats, because I follow a God who loves everyone. This same God teaches us we should love others too. Now, I don't like bureaucracy, and I think that it often causes waste and harm. I was responding to posts on this thread which is what happens on a message board. I was not responding to the whether or not we can trust tests enough to ignore contact tracing. I was responding to the idiots who have said in this thread that Covid is a joke or a hoax.






You're a lying piece of crap. No one on this thread has said the virus is a hoax. Obviously, many feel the related panic is overblown.

I feel sorry for anyone too stupid to understand the difference.

Try to be more honest and intelligent in the future.
Wow, go back and read the first page before you attack somebody.

On the first page, Trusttheprocess wrote:

Quote:

It continues to amaze me how the "sheep" have not yet woken up to the fact that this all is a hoax.
Try to be more intelligent rather than impulsive in the future.

What a slimy scumbag you are.

In that same post, he also wrote "only 701 Deaths related solely to Covid 19 can be attributed to anyone under the age 55" which proves he wasn't calling the virus a hoax but just the panic.

It's a little awkward that you were too stupid and dishonest to understand that without my help.



Come on. Even Big Blow Trump couldn't sell that. "This is all a hoax" can't refer to a panic. If there is panic, it can't be a hoax. Trump called the virus a hoax.

You're a lying piece of crap.

Trump declared a national health emergency and the China travel ban in January. He never said the virus was itself was a hoax.

I'm calling you out as a liar. It's not surprising that you didn't provide any evidence that Trump called the virus a hoax.
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I nominate college athletes get the vaccine first. Getting real tired of this. Let the boys play.
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Was almost to El Dorado when I got a text saying it was cancelled.
Turned around and came back to the ranch.
Oh, well.
“If you have a job without aggravations, you don’t have a job.”
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ImwithBU said:

SIC EM 94 said:

ImwithBU said:

SIC EM 94 said:

ImwithBU said:

Lol. Complete cluster. Blame Baylor, they have been letting students run a muck all semester. We have the one of worse number of COVID numbers in the state per capita.

Look at all your republicans blaming someone else... Baylor is about as red as it gets


Let's see those statistics because everything I've seen would suggest you are a complete idiot.

https://www.baylor.edu/coronavirus/index.php?id=972342


Baylor has over 700 cases. Have literally shut down floors in dorms and renting out hotels to "quarantine" students. But yeah I'm an idiot


Currently active cases: 104
Where do you get the "Baylor has over 700 cases"? There were floors in Martin shut down to quarantine, not entire floors of students that tested positive.


Hmm reading comprehension. Clearly says floors were shut down... try reading it again slowly


Again, where do you come up with "Baylor has over 700 cases"? As for the "shut down floors in dorms", it was a handful of students that tested positive, most of which were asymptomatic. You act like quarantining the floors means there was a widespread outbreak of positive cases. In addition, where do you get your claim that Baylor has been letting students run amuck all semester? That is complete bull**** as well.
 
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