Just curious about the thoughts about it of those who are watching.

We've got a thread going in the Bear Cave on this.

Generally, its crap. Acting, writing, set, costumes, plot, direction all second rate except for Ewan McGreggor, who is great.

Everyone I've talked to about it and have seen reviews of say it's pretty good. It's in line to start once I finish up other series.

I think it is very, very good based on the first 3 episodes. I think it is the best Star Wars series at this point and I like the Madalorian.

If you remember its a TV show and its star wars, its good entertainment.

TV shows have smaller budgets than block buster movies. TV shows have average writing in many cases. TV aliens are not that great when compared to big busget movies.

I will watch, it entertains me.

It doesn't seem to be lacking a big budget to me. It is well done.

PartyBear said:

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It doesn't seem to be lacking a big budget to me. It is well done.

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It is. It has Disney production.

I've been disappointed overall.

McGregor and Ingram are great. The rest? Meh.

The Inquisitors feel so toothless save for Reva. The rest of them act like mall cops. Far cry from their depiction in Rebels. And are they really breaking canon with the Grand Inquisitor (not going to spoil)?

The action is horribly directed. The Leia chase in the woods was comically bad. I've seen student films with better chase execution.

It's taking something away from the Vader-Kenobi encounter in ANH, and even when they do meet, there are no stakes. We know they both survive.

Not a fan thus far. Feels like the producers/showrunners are just throwing it together without regard to the canon to provide some fan service. I don't believe Feloni or Favreau are involved. I believe it because it shows. Sad because it's wasting McGregor and a decent new character in Reva. It's unfortunate.

Badly filmed, badly directed, ridiculous dialogues, badly written characters, bogus actors and so on...

I like it. It does a good job of showing the birth of the rebellion from being a group actively trying to save Jedi and force sensitive children and those hunted by the empire to a connected group of resistance fighters.

It shows how broken obi wan (and probably the rest of the Jedi) are after revenge of the sith.

I think I'm the end they will stay close to canon and not do what was hinted at in episode 2.

I dont recall what was hinted at in episode 2?


Actually in a deleted scene of Revenge of the Sith. There is a meeting among Padme, Mon Mothma and Senator Organa in Padme's living room in which they discuss how the Republic is slipping away and Palpatine is getting out of hand and how they perhaps need to start a movement ( a rebellion against Palpatime's rule). The name of the rebellion is the Rebel Alliance in the orginal trilogy. So obviously there are other groups such as in the episode last night and there is another group at the end of the Han Solo movie that was revealed as well. So obviously by A New Hope these groups have all joined together in an alliance.

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I dont recall what was hinted at in episode 2?


Actually in a deleted scene of Revenge of the Sith. There is a meeting among Padme, Mon Mothma and Senator Organa in Padme's living room in which they discuss how the Republic is slipping away and Palpatine is getting out of hand and how they perhaps need to start a movement ( a rebellion against Palpatime's rule). The name of the rebellion is the Rebel Alliance in the orginal trilogy. So obviously there are other groups such as in the episode last night and there is another group at the end of the Han Solo movie that was revealed as well. So obviously by A New Hope these groups have all joined together in an alliance.

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Episode 2 had something about a character that would go against Canon established in the Rebels.

True there was that deleted scene and there were other groups, like in Rogue One the group led by Saw Gerrera.

And then there is the Path group shown in Episode 3 and 4.

So yeah they are different groups but also even from that deleted scene seemed more focused on peaceful resistance and over time grow to active fighting. Or at least that is the impression I have always gotten since Revenge of the Sith came out on DVD and I saw that scene.

Yes I remember what you mean now. Even though I have never seen an episode of Rebels.

PartyBear said:

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Yes I remember what you mean now. Even though I have never seen an episode of Rebels.

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It's pretty good. Though agree, they have some explaining to do if that's that canon they are going with in Obi-Won.

It is not enough for me to add another streaming service ... it does seem to be maybe the most polarizing show that I can remember. A lot of people really like it, and a lot of people seem to think it is the worst Star Wars ever made ... particularly episode three ... I have friends that loved it and friends that believe it was the worst piece of Star Wars every (the worst of the worst).

Reading the reviews, it does not seem good - way too many goofy plot holes / devices and terrible acting. I mean I can suspend disbelief and buy into a group of squirrels fighting off the Empire, but I have a hard time with why Obi-Wan can't tell Darth Vadar is next door or how Reva magically passes Obi-Wan in the tunnel. I mean I need consistency within the fantasy universe.

It seems based on your second paragraph you read a review by someone who has not watched it.

I think Star Wars shows the issue with continuing a series over a period of 40 years in movies and shows where you go back and forth telling stories that happen in between the movies that creates issues.

Like Obi Wan not recognizing the droids.

Or the age issue of Obi Wan in the original (New Hope) and age he was at end of 3 (Sith)

Etc.

Then the fact it is being written by different writers over that time span who have different ideas and are creating new stories according to how they think it should go that would be different than what other writers or even Lucas would have done.

Then there is the issue of each new movie/show creates side characters or stories that people wonder about and when they try to go back and tell those people complain like with the Solo movie that the actors didn't look enough like the original, act like the original, etc. or people want more information about characters like Andor.

As to the tunnel thing.... they never showed her going through the tunnels, just that she was at the end. So perhaps she guessed where it came out and got there first. It seems reasonable that a tunnel would go from the town to the launchpad for ships if you are trying to get people of the planet unseen.

Edit: as to adding another streaming series... I get that. There are so many now and you basically have to choose which ones you want based on certain shows. Every channel has their own now and if you want to watch the new Star Wars or marvel you have to get Disney, want to watch Game of thrones- HBO, Star TREK- paramount +, etc. etc. to the point you can pay way more for each streaming service then you ever did for cable.

I do think think the folks who create "canon" have screwed up the timeline. If Obi Wan was supposed to have been younger than about 40 in Revenge of the Sith. However in terms of the age Obi Wan looks in this series. Ewan McGregor is about 12 years younger than Alec Guinness was in 1977 which means he is probably about 10 years younger than Alec Guinness was when Star Wars was actually filmed. Regardless this takes place about that time span prior to A New Hope. So it could be feasible he just ages alot in the desert over the next 10 years or perhaps something will occur at the end of this series with something Obi Wan does with the force that ages him perhaps the same thing Luke did at the end of Episode 8 which actually cost him his life, Luke was older when he did it. I dont know. But yes Alec Guinness the actor does look older than 63 in Episode 4.

As to the droid issue. If I recall Luke says " I think he was the property of an Obi Wan Kenobi do you know him" Then Obi Wan explains he is Obi Wan but all he says about the droid is "I dont recall ever owning a droid". Which was a true statement.

Another interesting tid bit. Alec Guinness had male pattern baldness by the mid 70s. For whatever reason Lucas must have wanted the character to have hair so Guinness wears a toupee in the movies.