What is Elon Up to?

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Aliceinbubbleland
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Frankly I have no understanding of bitcoin mining or AI. To me AI is simply Google Search. Just look at these massive computers being built out in Austin. What does he mean by solving AI?

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AI, right now, is the latest technical phrase being abused for marketing purposes. It's what happens when Google and Microsoft realize they've taken search engines about as far as they can go. They're labeling it with a new gimmick, stuffing it into everything that'll sit still, and hoping you'll notice it.

In reality, AI is a poorly understood label. In its most direct form, AI is composed of two computers (to reduce it to simple terms). The first computer gets fed a bunch of data. You tell that computer "this is what I'm looking for. When you see these patterns, I want you to do this thing. It's meaningful to me". Once you give that computer a sufficient amount of data to train on (you think it knows the pattern you're wanting and not others), you let that computer talk to the second one.
The second one is where the "real world" data is being fed. In the beginning, it's sorting through all that stuff looking for the patterns it was told about. When it thinks its found one, it gives you a result. You tell the second computer if it was right or not. It uses that information to update itself and the first computer. If done correctly, the two computers work together to get better and better at realizing what you want and rejecting what you don't want.
Of course, left to the public, a malicious operator will poison the results by telling the computer that results praising Hitler or sexually graphic descriptions of children are ideal. The public is stupid and immature.
Done properly, AI is a godsend for things like seeing deep patterns in cancer cell genomes, predicting protein folding outcomes, the natural progression of traffic patterns, and other complex iterative models.

You don't need it to find an Italian restaurant nearby.
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Aliceinbubbleland said:

Frankly I have no understanding of bitcoin mining or AI. To me AI is simply Google Search. Just look at these massive computers being built out in Austin. What does he mean by solving AI?


if the chinese beat us to next gen Ai, its not pretty.

Go Elon!
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Mr Tulip said:

AI, right now, is the latest technical phrase being abused for marketing purposes. It's what happens when Google and Microsoft realize they've taken search engines about as far as they can go. They're labeling it with a new gimmick, stuffing it into everything that'll sit still, and hoping you'll notice it.

In reality, AI is a poorly understood label. In its most direct form, AI is composed of two computers (to reduce it to simple terms). The first computer gets fed a bunch of data. You tell that computer "this is what I'm looking for. When you see these patterns, I want you to do this thing. It's meaningful to me". Once you give that computer a sufficient amount of data to train on (you think it knows the pattern you're wanting and not others), you let that computer talk to the second one.
The second one is where the "real world" data is being fed. In the beginning, it's sorting through all that stuff looking for the patterns it was told about. When it thinks its found one, it gives you a result. You tell the second computer if it was right or not. It uses that information to update itself and the first computer. If done correctly, the two computers work together to get better and better at realizing what you want and rejecting what you don't want.
Of course, left to the public, a malicious operator will poison the results by telling the computer that results praising Hitler or sexually graphic descriptions of children are ideal. The public is stupid and immature.
Done properly, AI is a godsend for things like seeing deep patterns in cancer cell genomes, predicting protein folding outcomes, the natural progression of traffic patterns, and other complex iterative models.

You don't need it to find an Italian restaurant nearby.
i would love some version of AI to build arguements based on case law or at least one that could find all case law on the subject to let legal counsel build their arguements(this is more probable)
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4th and Inches said:

Mr Tulip said:

AI, right now, is the latest technical phrase being abused for marketing purposes. It's what happens when Google and Microsoft realize they've taken search engines about as far as they can go. They're labeling it with a new gimmick, stuffing it into everything that'll sit still, and hoping you'll notice it.

In reality, AI is a poorly understood label. In its most direct form, AI is composed of two computers (to reduce it to simple terms). The first computer gets fed a bunch of data. You tell that computer "this is what I'm looking for. When you see these patterns, I want you to do this thing. It's meaningful to me". Once you give that computer a sufficient amount of data to train on (you think it knows the pattern you're wanting and not others), you let that computer talk to the second one.
The second one is where the "real world" data is being fed. In the beginning, it's sorting through all that stuff looking for the patterns it was told about. When it thinks its found one, it gives you a result. You tell the second computer if it was right or not. It uses that information to update itself and the first computer. If done correctly, the two computers work together to get better and better at realizing what you want and rejecting what you don't want.
Of course, left to the public, a malicious operator will poison the results by telling the computer that results praising Hitler or sexually graphic descriptions of children are ideal. The public is stupid and immature.
Done properly, AI is a godsend for things like seeing deep patterns in cancer cell genomes, predicting protein folding outcomes, the natural progression of traffic patterns, and other complex iterative models.

You don't need it to find an Italian restaurant nearby.
i would love some version of AI to build arguements based on case law or at least one that could find all case law on the subject to let legal counsel build their arguements(this is more probable)
This could almost be a reasonable use of AI. However, it would either require individually trained learning loops for a given jurisdiction (impractical) or a VERY specifically defined query. I'd argue that, given the specificity of the query, Google likely will do the job better.

Further, anything returned by AI would have to be vetted against documented sources. Considering the time and effort and resources needed to rigorously ensure that nothing outrageous jumped in. It would really negate using it altogether.

On a tangent: Elon Musk is an idiot. His contribution comes from using his immense wealth to purchase emerging technologies and yelling at his employees to finish them faster. Everything he touches breaks because all he is is wealthy. He has no idea how any of this works. Since the success or failure of any of his 'ventures' is irrelevant to him, he just basks in the glow of people talking about him.
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So he is the modern Henry Ford
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hes busy selling ****ty cheaply made cars
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cms186 said:

hes busy selling ****ty cheaply made cars
basically the exact same as Henry Ford then
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Ford didn't invent the ICE. His most important contribution was the assembly line process which enabled lots of them to be built quickly and efficiently. Two key differences: 1. Ford paid his employees sufficiently so that they could afford a car themselves and 2. the damned things worked when they left the factory.

Your rocks would be better thrown at George Westinghouse, Thomas Edison, or Sir Isaac Newton. =)

AI's largest downfall is that because we're trying to use is as a corporate buzzword (blockchain anyone?), we're trying to stuff it into more and more things. This should shock no one, but it's a VERY INTENSIVE computational process. It requires a lot of computers doing a lot of things to accomplish. While your personal laptop may not seem like much, the computations required to run AI use a LOT of electricity. Like, entire cities worth of electricity to run the computers and cool them down. All these computations get crammed into office block sized buildings called data centers.

These data centers are now experimenting with smaller, scalable sized nuclear powered generators as a source for their own electrical needs. They're that intensive.

Locally, we're concerned that a "business friendly" state like Texas will also feature a 1920's era power grid - like Texas. Combining these factors seems tailor made for creating a heat stroke for the rest of us while some 16 year old uses AI to design a movie of a bikini clad Taylor Swift machine-gunning Beyonce while riding a dolphin.
Aliceinbubbleland
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Are you buying any of the power supply stocks like Vistra?
RD2WINAGNBEAR86
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Aliceinbubbleland said:

Frankly I have no understanding of bitcoin mining or AI. To me AI is simply Google Search. Just look at these massive computers being built out in Austin. What does he mean by solving AI?


What is Elon up to? Last I checked, almost $245 billion.
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