We spend so much time arguing politics. Thought how about some thing that actually helps. Anyone into longevity?

FLBear5630 said:

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We spend so much time arguing politics. Thought how about some thing that actually helps. Anyone into longevity?

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Living a long life? Growing old gracefully? Eternity?

Eternity is too damn long for me. Just hope I can live a long, happy life. My Dad and my Stepdad both died at 78. Any years beyond that will be bonus time! Don't care if my body continues to wear out, - just want my mind to make the trip.

FLBear5630 said:

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We spend so much time arguing politics. Thought how about some thing that actually helps. Anyone into longevity?

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I'm starting to see this idea pop up. I'm sensing I might have to give up my 4 month fascination with bourbon. It's been fun.

Zone 2 cardio, diet and strong attention toward heart health.

1.) Use a weighted vest or set the incline as high as you can on a treadmill and walk for 45 minutes 4 times a week.

2.) Eat a high protein diet. Eat mostly whole foods.

3.) Take citrus bergamot, CoQ10/Ubiquinol, Cod Liver oil...maybe Nattokinase.

4.) Bonus points for lifting weights (8-12 rep range, full range of motion). 4 sets, 4 different workouts.

That's about as simple as its gonna get for longevity.

Doc Holliday said:

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Zone 2 cardio, diet and strong attention toward heart health.

1.) Use a weighted vest or set the incline as high as you can on a treadmill and walk for 45 minutes 4 times a week.

2.) Eat a high protein diet. Eat mostly whole foods.

3.) Take citrus bergamot, CoQ10/Ubiquinol, Cod Liver oil...maybe Nattokinase.

4.) Bonus points for lifting weights (8-12 rep range, full range of motion). 4 sets, 4 different workouts.

That's about as simple as its gonna get for longevity.

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My Cod Liver Oil story.

As a kid, if you were on Death's door and needed to stay home from school, my dad would offer us Cod Liver Oil.

Me? I'd rather go to school sick.

william said:

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me? I'd prefer arbysgevity:



- UF

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Giving up is just easier and more fun...

Doc Holliday said:

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Zone 2 cardio, diet and strong attention toward heart health.

1.) Use a weighted vest or set the incline as high as you can on a treadmill and walk for 45 minutes 4 times a week.

2.) Eat a high protein diet. Eat mostly whole foods.

3.) Take citrus bergamot, CoQ10/Ubiquinol, Cod Liver oil...maybe Nattokinase.

4.) Bonus points for lifting weights (8-12 rep range, full range of motion). 4 sets, 4 different workouts.

That's about as simple as it's gonna get for longevity.

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yep, and for some reason it is still so hard to do. What about stretching exercises? Getting an annual physical with blood tests?

Yahoo algorithms shoving this in my face today.

9 Small Changes That Can Add Years to Your Life, According to Longevity Experts

30aBear said:

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Doc Holliday said:

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Zone 2 cardio, diet and strong attention toward heart health.

1.) Use a weighted vest or set the incline as high as you can on a treadmill and walk for 45 minutes 4 times a week.

2.) Eat a high protein diet. Eat mostly whole foods.

3.) Take citrus bergamot, CoQ10/Ubiquinol, Cod Liver oil...maybe Nattokinase.

4.) Bonus points for lifting weights (8-12 rep range, full range of motion). 4 sets, 4 different workouts.

That's about as simple as it's gonna get for longevity.

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yep, and for some reason it is still so hard to do. What about stretching exercises? Getting an annual physical with blood tests?

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After 40 years of working out, I tried the flexibility and balance exercises, kick my ass worse than any HIIT, Weight Training or body weight program I have traditionally done.

1 leg RDLs... My nemesis. Hate those f-ing things.

FranchiseBear said:

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I am very interested in this topic and most of what I do health wise now is geared toward longevity. I do most of the items you note in your post but my supplements vary some from yours. I take creatine, methyl B, DHEA, Vit D3/K2. I also take a sleep stack supplement (I have trouble staying asleep) that includes mag glycinate, L taurine, apigenin, and inositol. I also try and get ~10 minutes of direct sunlight a day.

I would add that I don't think lifting weights is a 'bonus' but an absolute must and the earlier in life you start the better. It has so many benefits - physical, blood panel, cognitive, etc. I lift 4-6 times a week and try and do 2-3 fairly heavy days. Not body building type stuff but trying to be functionally fit.

I started doing intermittent fasting and cutting out most processed foods 2 years ago and it has been a game changer combined with the cardio/weightlifting. I do some blood panels beyond typical blood tests and my numbers have been great since I incorporated eating changes and supplements with physical effort.

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Look into cruciferous veggies. Will not help Test, but will suppress Estrogen. Easy thing to do for Test ratio.

The other thing I found, have to keep fat intake at a decent level as we age, over 50 talking. All our hormones are fat based. When go too low, it messes with Test. Butter, Fish Oil, Avocado oil, olive oil, eggs will help. Total Cholesterol may go above 200, but the ratios will still be good. At least been my experience

I could up my cruciferous veggies some. Didn't realize the testosterone/estrogen connection. Agree on the Fat - we almost exclusively cook with avocado or olive oil and I eat eggs all the time.

FranchiseBear said:

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I could up my cruciferous veggies some. Didn't realize the testosterone/estrogen connection. Agree on the Fat - we almost exclusively cook with avocado or olive oil and I eat eggs all the time.

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{ sipping coffee }

{ eating donut }

- UF

Go Bears!

{ eating jimmy dean sausages }

Arby's roast beef doesn't make the cut!

I invested in a bottle of pills and an extender to transform my :schlong-gevity".

Bacon.

The secret is bacon.

Just came across this discussion in relation to LIQR in a pick up's passing.

The best shot at longevity is moderate exercise, and eating primarily a whole food plant based diet. It will reduce the risk of most cancers, and it will prevent type2 diabetes and atherosclerosis. You can avoid most if not all medications (statins, BP, and diabetes drugs) if you follow that type of diet.

Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:

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I have lost over 100 lbss in the last 5 years. I now weigh the same amount as I played football as a Jr in high school. I feel great and though I still drink lots of beer on weekends I walk and swim daily. My father has a good live til around 84.
. I am trying for 85 but will check k out if I become uncomfortable and will thank God for the life I have had.

Sorry for any typos. Sitting at a table with a beautiful Thai woman
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Ya, but you are dead now. God decides.

TexasScientist said:

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Just came across this discussion in relation to LIQR in a pick up's passing.

The best shot at longevity is moderate exercise, and eating primarily a whole food plant based diet. It will reduce the risk of most cancers, and it will prevent type2 diabetes and atherosclerosis. You can avoid most if not all medications (statins, BP, and diabetes drugs) if you follow that type of diet.

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You love the Covid jab but eschew the statins?! You are a special kind of ******.

BellCountyBear said:

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TexasScientist said:

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Just came across this discussion in relation to LIQR in a pick up's passing.

The best shot at longevity is moderate exercise, and eating primarily a whole food plant based diet. It will reduce the risk of most cancers, and it will prevent type2 diabetes and atherosclerosis. You can avoid most if not all medications (statins, BP, and diabetes drugs) if you follow that type of diet.

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You love the Covid jab but eschew the statins?! You are a special kind of ******.

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You don't have a clue about what you are saying. Diet is the primary determinant of atherosclerosis. High cholesterol and saturated fat diets build plaque in your arteries. Statins lower your cholesterol. Generally speaking, you won't have a need for statins if you eat the right kind of foods, because you won't have high cholesterol. If you eat the standard American diet, statins might help you, but a majority of heart attack victims are already on statins.

About those statins.

"The USPSTF recommendations should be considered in the context of a meta-analysis, published in 2010,8 which included only trials that enrolled patients receiving high-risk primary prevention; this study showed no benefit on all-cause mortality with statins. The benefit for CVD mortality was not statistically significant (pooled relative risk, 0.91; 95% CI, 0.81-1.02). Notably, there was no significant statistical heterogeneity (I2 = 0) across the 12 trials (n = 75138) examined. The null result was robust in sensitivity analyses that excluded trials that stopped early, trials that included patients receiving secondary prevention, good-quality trials, trials with at least 3 years of follow-up, and trials with participants with a median baseline LDL lower than 160 mg/dL.6 The lack of benefit on CVD mortality found in the 2022 evidence review6 and the lack of benefit on all-cause mortality in the purely high-risk primary prevention meta-analysis8 call into question the reliability of the all-cause mortality benefit reported in the systematic review that accompanies the 2022 USPSTF recommendations. Because 19 of the 22 included trials were industry sponsored, potential bias in the randomization processes, as well as the potential for exaggeration of net benefits,9 are of greater concern than for trials whose sponsors were disinterested with regard to the outcomes."

Statins for Primary Cardiovascular Disease PreventionTime to Curb Our Enthusiasm

LDL-C does not cause cardiovascular disease: a comprehensive review of the current literature

I'm going to go further than that. The USPSTF was a cost control measure disguised as "quality care". Many of its recommendations from statins to PSA testing are bad medicine and rely on bad science. If you have a doctor who is quoting USPSTF guidelines to you in 2026 instead of practicing Hippocratic medicine...find a new one.

In most people diet is a driver of CAD in that a high glycemic index diet combined with obesity will trigger metabolic syndrome, type 2 diabetes and by extension CAD.

BellCountyBear said:

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TexasScientist said:

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Just came across this discussion in relation to LIQR in a pick up's passing.

The best shot at longevity is moderate exercise, and eating primarily a whole food plant based diet. It will reduce the risk of most cancers, and it will prevent type2 diabetes and atherosclerosis. You can avoid most if not all medications (statins, BP, and diabetes drugs) if you follow that type of diet.

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You love the Covid jab but eschew the statins?! You are a special kind of ******.

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this was a great thread until the 'jab' talk. there is 'no' risk from a vaccine. if you want to talk about all that crap there are several other threads you can muck up, go have fun.

I'm reading this right now: Outlive: The Science and Art of Longevity Hardcover March 28, 2023
by Peter Attia MD (Author), Bill Gifford

One of the top longevity books out there and so far not to boring...haha

Dr. Caldwell Esselstyn - Cleveland Clinic - Causes of Heart Disease

I have no idea what killed LIQR, but I would guess it had more so to do with that big ass motorcycle than his diet.

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

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I have no idea what killed LIQR, but I would guess it had more so to do with that big ass motorcycle than his diet.

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Possibly, but diet is the driver in CVD and Type 2 Diabetes. In many cases (high percentage), you can actually reverse atherosclerosis and Type 2 diabetes by changing diet.

TexasScientist said:

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RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

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I have no idea what killed LIQR, but I would guess it had more so to do with that big ass motorcycle than his diet.

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Possibly, but diet is the driver in CVD and Type 2 Diabetes. In many cases (high percentage), you can actually reverse atherosclerosis and Type 2 diabetes by changing diet.

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My colonoscopy doctor told me my last visit that if you have not lost or gained weight in the past year, chances are less than 1 1/2 percent that you have cancer. Life is good.

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

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TexasScientist said:

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RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

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I have no idea what killed LIQR, but I would guess it had more so to do with that big ass motorcycle than his diet.

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Possibly, but diet is the driver in CVD and Type 2 Diabetes. In many cases (high percentage), you can actually reverse atherosclerosis and Type 2 diabetes by changing diet.

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My colonoscopy doctor told me my last visit that if you have not lost or gained weight in the past year, chances are less than 1 1/2 percent that you have cancer. Life is good.

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Weight gain or loss is a good indicator. It's a factor of diet also. Cancer is problamatic, but some cancers if not all are influenced to a degree by diet also.