Fandango's ties to Baylor

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Moondoggie
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Kevin Reynolds (BU president Herb Reynolds son) wrote and directed an autographical movie about an adventure he went on he with his friends from Baylor before graduating. They just changed Baylor to UT in the movie because his dad did not want to embarrass the school with the debauchery(Herb shared this with me at a lodge meeting). A hilarious and beautiful movie.

So I'm wondering what backstory tidbits people can share about the movie ie Waco attorney Rod Goble was one of the real guys who went on this adventure. Any more facts?

Let the info sharing begin!
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I was in the pledge class with Kevin and the other members of the trip, and a good amount of the story actually took place. It all started because as a pledge class we had to learn all the stories of a previous pledge class that made a trip across the Mexican border to buy cheap gifts for the members as favors, a long held tradition.

One of the pledges, Steve Burkett, was a one man train wreck, spreading havoc and seriously setting relations between the USA and Mexico back about 100 years. Of course, the stories of the trip grew ever more exaggerated with each telling, so where the truth lay is known only to a few then 19 year olds with what I'm sure were alcohol infused memories.

Kevin (as well as the rest of us) laughed his ass off as we heard the stories told for the hundredth time, so by the time he got out of film school, he figured it would make a good movie.

The only character totally made up was the big dude, Dorman. As a side note, Kevin found the "actor" buying rolling papers and beer at a 7-11 and hired him on the spot. As I'm sure you've noticed, the guy has almost no dialogue, which is because he couldn't act his way out of a wet paper bag.

Phillip, the character played by Judd Nelson, was based on Kevin's best friend and roommate Phil Smith who actually wore aviator glasses but wasn't (and isn't) nearly as nerdy. Phil is now a financial planner in Houston and doing quite well. He' hit it big in the stock market and has a hot trophy wife, not that there's anything wrong with that.

Kenneth, played by Sam Robarts, called Waggoner in the film, is based on Tommy Waggoner, currently a very successful dentist in Waco. I'm actually brave enough to use his dental skills, in spite of the fact that we know each other's sordid past.

Lester Griffin, the character who spends almost the entire movie passed out in the back seat, is based on Joe Griffin, one of Kevin and Phil's closest friends, who just retired last month after being an extremely talented commercial photographer here in Waco.

The rest were based on characters Kevin dreamed up, although the skydiving story was basically true. They did that not as a dare to Phil but just because they thought it would be a good idea. They went to some "school" near San Marcos where I'm sure the lesson were just as sketchy, but I don't remember any of them mentioning the instructor being a stoner. And Phil's parachute operated properly, as he's all too happy to tell anyone who'll listen.

Just about everything else from Kevin picturing himself as a young Kevin Costner to the train ripping off the car bumper to the buried bottle of Dom was a product of his storytelling skill.

These are all great guys in person, and I'm proud to be their friend. If you run into any of them by chance, at homecoming or athletic event, just introduce yourself and say "Cookie Man" (my nickname when I pledged...don't ask) sent you.

And if you run onto Kevin, ask him if he still lights his farts!

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Edmond Bear
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Great stories. We've watched Fandango annually because of Baylor's ties and one other tie since graduation in '92.

My additional tie is that the cemetery where they filmed the "Vietnam" scene was owned by my uncle.
Brian Ethridge
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HA! Love this
Keyser Soze
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thanks 5by9
bularry
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One of my favorite movies

I believe KR went to law school at UT, correct? Might be part of the reason set that as school
Moondoggie
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Cookie man,
Wow I hit paydirt asking for additional Fandango info. Thanks so much. I'm about to copy and paste your stories and share them with a few friends scattered across the country who loved the pic as much as I.
May I ask what frat?
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..... better than ManWango.

- KKM

{ sipping coffee }

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Back then, there were no national frats, unless it was purely a service organization. We were Phi Kappa Alpha , which went on to become SAE when nationals were finally allowed in 1976.

The back issues of the Round Up with club photos from '72 and '73 are available online, if you feel like getting that into it. We're a scrawny looking bunch, but it was a fun time. We had every stereotype (jock, ROTC, stoner, preppies) as members. I'm still very close friends with many of them.
Moondoggie
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Thanks for answering that question. I just sent your info to 11 guys on a text thread, and they are salivating with the backstory. It is our collective favorite movie, and we even visited locations from the movie. it is really depressing to see the Square where the wedding took place. It is in El Paso.
Did chuck bush work at Dillard's doing security? he works with the Louisiana film commission and got his house flooded during Katrina.
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pitchman said:

Thanks for answering that question. I just sent your info to 11 guys on a text thread, and they are salivating with the backstory. It is our collective favorite movie, and we even visited locations from the movie. it is really depressing to see the Square where the wedding took place. It is in El Paso.
Did chuck bush work at Dillard's doing security? he works with the Louisiana film commission and got his house flooded during Katrina.

Wish I had known about the El Paso square. I worked on a project there for a year and would have loved to have seen it.

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transmit5by9 said:

Back then, there were no national frats, unless it was purely a service organization. We were Phi Kappa Alpha , which went on to become SAE when nationals were finally allowed in 1976.

The back issues of the Round Up with club photos from '72 and '73 are available online, if you feel like getting that into it. We're a scrawny looking bunch, but it was a fun time. We had every stereotype (jock, ROTC, stoner, preppies) as members. I'm still very close friends with many of them.

Here's the link to the PKA image - PKA Pic - '73 Round Up

You will have to scroll down to find Phi Kappa Alpha. 5by9 can you point out who is who?



transmit5by9
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Kevin Reynolds is second from the right on the front row with his arms crossed. I'm the way to weird looking guy to the left (I'm sure he said something seriously off color to make anyone in ear shot laugh). Tommy Waggoner is the next guy to the left wearing a barely readable "Phi" intramural jersey. Joe Griffin is the short fellow next to the guy in the Superman shirt; I'm calling that the 4th row. Phil Smith is the second guy from the left on a guy's shoulders; yes, he's wearing his aviator glasses. Rod Goble, who was mentioned earlier, had nothing to do with the movie but is a good guy to know if you have legal trouble in Waco, is next to Phil wearing the #33 jersey.
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transmit5by9 said:

Kevin Reynolds is second from the right on the front row with his arms crossed. I'm the way to weird looking guy to the left (I'm sure he said something seriously off color to make anyone in ear shot laugh). Tommy Waggoner is the next guy to the left wearing a barely readable "Phi" intramural jersey. Joe Griffin is the short fellow next to the guy in the Superman shirt; I'm calling that the 4th row. Phil Smith is the second guy from the left on a guy's shoulders; yes, he's wearing his aviator glasses. Rod Goble, who was mentioned earlier, had nothing to do with the movie but is a good guy to know if you have legal trouble in Waco, is next to Phil wearing the #33 jersey.

Hey thanks. This is fun.

I'm glad you told the real story. I have always heard something slightly different. My big sis (I started in '88) said her boyfriend's frat brother was the drunk Lester Griffin carted around by Dorman the whole movie and that he actually went to work for Arthur Anderson (as said in the movie). But, this version's timeline would be a decade too late. Funny how rumors get started and take a life of their own.

transmit5by9
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What was her boyfriend's frat brother's name? If I don't recognize it, or if you don't see it listed in the Round Up picture, I'd say these's a discrepancy.
Moondoggie
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Ok, this is going too far and a tad embarrassing, but my wife just reminded me that I contacted Chuck bush to try to get him to perform our marriage just like in the movie. he was busy and couldn't come in from Louisiana, but he is a real minister now and performs them all the time. I don't know how I forgot this, but obviously I have taken this movie a little bit too much to heart.
transmit5by9
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Don't worry, as the years pass forgetting things becomes second nature.
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What were we talking about?
Brian Ethridge
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pitchman said:

Ok, this is going too far and a tad embarrassing, but my wife just reminded me that I contacted Chuck bush to try to get him to perform our marriage just like in the movie. he was busy and couldn't come in from Louisiana, but he is a real minister now and performs them all the time. I don't know how I forgot this, but obviously I have taken this movie a little bit too much to heart.
and I thought out wedding with beer carrying donkeys was epic.
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Brian Ethridge said:

pitchman said:

Ok, this is going too far and a tad embarrassing, but my wife just reminded me that I contacted Chuck bush to try to get him to perform our marriage just like in the movie. he was busy and couldn't come in from Louisiana, but he is a real minister now and performs them all the time. I don't know how I forgot this, but obviously I have taken this movie a little bit too much to heart.
and I thought out wedding with beer carrying donkeys was epic.

Did you get married at Pecan Springs Ranch in Austin? I hung out with those beer donkeys this summer.


transmit5by9
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Beer donkeys sound epic. Why have I spent my life dealing with lazy dogs and cats?
Brian Ethridge
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Edmond Bear said:

Brian Ethridge said:

pitchman said:

Ok, this is going too far and a tad embarrassing, but my wife just reminded me that I contacted Chuck bush to try to get him to perform our marriage just like in the movie. he was busy and couldn't come in from Louisiana, but he is a real minister now and performs them all the time. I don't know how I forgot this, but obviously I have taken this movie a little bit too much to heart.
and I thought out wedding with beer carrying donkeys was epic.

Did you get married at Pecan Springs Ranch in Austin? I hung out with those beer donkeys this summer.
No, a place in Wimberly.
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transmit5by9 said:

Beer donkeys sound epic. Why have I spent my life dealing with lazy dogs and cats?
They were even TABC certified or something so they could carry the pouches filled with ice and beer.
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transmit5by9 said:

I was in the pledge class with Kevin and the other members of the trip, and a good amount of the story actually took place. It all started because as a pledge class we had to learn all the stories of a previous pledge class that made a trip across the Mexican border to buy cheap gifts for the members as favors, a long held tradition.

One of the pledges, Steve Burkett, was a one man train wreck, spreading havoc and seriously setting relations between the USA and Mexico back about 100 years. Of course, the stories of the trip grew ever more exaggerated with each telling, so where the truth lay is known only to a few then 19 year olds with what I'm sure were alcohol infused memories.

Kevin (as well as the rest of us) laughed his ass off as we heard the stories told for the hundredth time, so by the time he got out of film school, he figured it would make a good movie.

The only character totally made up was the big dude, Dorman. As a side note, Kevin found the "actor" buying rolling papers and beer at a 7-11 and hired him on the spot. As I'm sure you've noticed, the guy has almost no dialogue, which is because he couldn't act his way out of a wet paper bag.

Phillip, the character played by Judd Nelson, was based on Kevin's best friend and roommate Phil Smith who actually wore aviator glasses but wasn't (and isn't) nearly as nerdy. Phil is now a financial planner in Houston and doing quite well. He' hit it big in the stock market and has a hot trophy wife, not that there's anything wrong with that.

Kenneth, played by Sam Robarts, called Waggoner in the film, is based on Tommy Waggoner, currently a very successful dentist in Waco. I'm actually brave enough to use his dental skills, in spite of the fact that we know each other's sordid past.

Lester Griffin, the character who spends almost the entire movie passed out in the back seat, is based on Joe Griffin, one of Kevin and Phil's closest friends, who just retired last month after being an extremely talented commercial photographer here in Waco.

The rest were based on characters Kevin dreamed up, although the skydiving story was basically true. They did that not as a dare to Phil but just because they thought it would be a good idea. They went to some "school" near San Marcos where I'm sure the lesson were just as sketchy, but I don't remember any of them mentioning the instructor being a stoner. And Phil's parachute operated properly, as he's all too happy to tell anyone who'll listen.

Just about everything else from Kevin picturing himself as a young Kevin Costner to the train ripping off the car bumper to the buried bottle of Dom was a product of his storytelling skill.

These are all great guys in person, and I'm proud to be their friend. If you run into any of them by chance, at homecoming or athletic event, just introduce yourself and say "Cookie Man" (my nickname when I pledged...don't ask) sent you.

And if you run onto Kevin, ask him if he still lights his farts!

Transmit5by9
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"Those who stay will be champions"

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Brian Ethridge said:

pitchman said:

Ok, this is going too far and a tad embarrassing, but my wife just reminded me that I contacted Chuck bush to try to get him to perform our marriage just like in the movie. he was busy and couldn't come in from Louisiana, but he is a real minister now and performs them all the time. I don't know how I forgot this, but obviously I have taken this movie a little bit too much to heart.
and I thought out wedding with beer carrying donkeys was epic.

And now this appears to be my favorite wedding of all time.
"Those who stay will be champions"

--William Barret Travis
Moondoggie
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I think the beer carrying donkeys were edited out of the movie for the wedding scene. it would have won best picture had they included them in the final edit.
Gunny Hartman
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Well apparently there's a fan site dedicated to the flick 30 something years later.

http://ultimatefandango.com

And Dorman is involved somehow




"Those who stay will be champions"

--William Barret Travis
Gunny Hartman
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All of this is quite interesting to research. So it appears the actor that played Lester Griffin, Brian Cesak, never acted again and has a successful Chiropractic practice in Houston.

http://www.houstonpress.com/best-of/2008/shopping-and-services/best-chiropractor-6606338
"Those who stay will be champions"

--William Barret Travis
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Gunny Hartman said:

Brian Ethridge said:

pitchman said:

Ok, this is going too far and a tad embarrassing, but my wife just reminded me that I contacted Chuck bush to try to get him to perform our marriage just like in the movie. he was busy and couldn't come in from Louisiana, but he is a real minister now and performs them all the time. I don't know how I forgot this, but obviously I have taken this movie a little bit too much to heart.
and I thought out wedding with beer carrying donkeys was epic.

And now this appears to be my favorite wedding of all time.
You're friends with me on FaceBook. The pictures are there.
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This story (the real Fandango trip) was told to me by Dennis Morgan (from El Campo, TX) when I was at BU.
But he called it "Batcher goes to Mexico" or something like that.
I graduated BU with Rod Goble (funny guy).
Never in a million years thought that Alpha Phi Omega guys could throw a good party, but apparently they did.
Some of them even married well.

We used a scene from FANDANGO in my first documentary RETURN TO GIANT where they go to spend the night at the old Reata set on the Evans Ranch outside Marfa. Had to get Kevin Reynold's permission to use the clip and he granted it, for free, so I'm okay with the guy.
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Yes, the tall tales we learned as pledges were called "Burkett goes to Mexico". We heard those stories countless times, with each telling growing ever more exaggerated.

Dennis Morgan was pledge captain when I joined Phis the fall of '71 and one of my closest friends.

And we had fantastic parties, if I say so myself, especially at Camp Harvey, the slum owned by Tommy Bakos next door to the fire station at 10th and Speight. All I can say is it seemed like a good idea at the time.
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transmit5by9 said:

Yes, the tall tales we learned as pledges were called "Burkett goes to Mexico". We heard those stories countless times, with each telling growing ever more exaggerated.

Dennis Morgan was pledge captain when I joined Phis the fall of '71 and one of my closest friends.

And we had fantastic parties, if I say so myself, especially at Camp Harvey, the slum owned by Tommy Bakos next door to the fire station at 10th and Speight. All I can say is it seemed like a good idea at the time.
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transmit5by9 said:

Yes, the tall tales we learned as pledges were called "Burkett goes to Mexico". We heard those stories countless times, with each telling growing ever more exaggerated.

Dennis Morgan was pledge captain when I joined Phis the fall of '71 and one of my closest friends.

And we had fantastic parties, if I say so myself, especially at Camp Harvey, the slum owned by Tommy Bakos next door to the fire station at 10th and Speight. All I can say is it seemed like a good idea at the time.

This is great stuff.

Okay so that I better understand you, you were in the same pledge class with Kevin and the others depicted in the movie. And y'all were told stories about Burkett's prior trip to Mexico. So, was Fandango mostly based on Burkett's trip? And did y'all go on your own trip?

Thanks for the enjoyable read.
"Those who stay will be champions"

--William Barret Travis
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transmit5by9 said:

And we had fantastic parties, if I say so myself, especially at Camp Harvey, the slum owned by Tommy Bakos next door to the fire station at 10th and Speight. All I can say is it seemed like a good idea at the time.
I find that hard to believe, but I having no evidence to the contrary I will have to let it stand until further study.
All I can say is that if anyone ever saw what went on at the NATE parties we would have been kicked off of campus.
Dennis Morgan liked to wear a t-shirt from his old high school football team, the El Campo Ricebirds. (My second favorite high school mascot, next to the Happy Cowboys.)

And as I always enjoy posting, never once in my four years at Baylor did I hear, "Wow, that was a wild party the KOTs threw last night."
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That's a pretty accurate summation. The key point would be how the stories grew ever more exaggerated with each telling, so that by the time Kevin was ready to shoot his film, there was plenty to work with for a script.
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