boykin_spaniel said:

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Sean Lewis was Babers OC when he was winning. I'd prefer giving him a look.

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yeah, winning at bowling green

also, lewis didn't look all that great at kent st

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FLBear5630 said:

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JXL said:

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Tom Herman is a huge NO. He is a scuzzbucket.

Traylor would be my realistic choice, but how about stealing Dino Babers from Syracuse? (Yes I realize this isn't happening, but …) He coached under Briles and likes that style of offense, which is what we need.

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Is Dino even worth it? Has he done anything of note at Syracuse? We can argue he's better then Aranda, but can he make it to Arlington?

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I am a believer in fit. Just because he isn't killing it at limited resource Syracuse doesn't mean he wouldn't win here.

What scares me is that this is what Mack and BOR want. Aranda is good fit and we are getting what the Admin wants. A no-teeth program with a quite thoughtful coach, wins and competing are not important. He fired his mentor who was to passionate and old school. Mack may say he instructed Aranda, but if the conversation ended with Mack saying your good just keep what your doing with the program. We are screwed as fans.

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The Mack stuff seems likely; ignoring this in-flight season, Babers is 36-49 at Syracuse, 2 bowl appearances over 7 seasons with no division/conference titles, and is paid more than $4M. That's not a replacement for Aranda worthy resume, and, even if it was, he's not worth the financial cost.

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Nobody has won at Syracuse since McPherson in the 90s. Some places have limited upside. Baylor may be one too. There are sad truths.sometimes. it is not getting better for places like Syracuse and Baylor.

Three current head coaches we may have a chance for that we could talk to..none of them are lighting it up right now but none are at football factories .but they're all young and first 2 are offensive gurus .

Kenny Willingham - Arizona St.. ASU alum...set all sorts of records as Memphis coordinator.

Alex Golesh - USF head coach. OC at UCF and Tennessee under Josh Heupel. Born in Moscow Russia.

Ryan Walters - Purdue . Defensive guru

Thing about these 3 is they got the Power 5 experience as a head coach so they should be better in their 2nd job.

Stefano DiMera said:

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Three current head coaches we may have a chance for that we could talk to..none of them are lighting it up right now but none are at football factories .but they're all young and first 2 are offensive gurus .

Kenny Willingham - Arizona St.. ASU alum...set all sorts of records as Memphis coordinator.

Alex Golesh - USF head coach. OC at UCF and Tennessee under Josh Heupel. Born in Moscow Russia.

Ryan Walters - Purdue . Defensive guru

Thing about these 3 is they got the Power 5 experience as a head coach so they should be better in their 2nd job.

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Golesch- NO!!!! You do not want anything to do with him or a USF product. They are a worse train wreck than Baylor.

Fritz for my vote. Proven winner. Winning at Tulane is even more difficult then here.

I get what you're saying and the job he's done is remarkable but there's one thing you can't escape..

He's 63 years old.

The dynamics of the college head coaching position have changed drastically through the years...it was always tough to move from an assistant or coordinator job to a head coach because of all the increased media and alumni responsibilities a head coach now has..but now with the portal and NIL it's gonna take a younger coach who embraces those things

Most of the old fossils don't anymore..not saying Fritz can't win here but does he have the juice for the 3 year rebuilding job ita gonna take?

Mack Brown says hello

Aliceinbubbleland said:

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Mack Brown says hello

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Yep....I remember back when we brought in Grobe there was some talk of Mack coming in.

I thought the game had passed him by and he might not have the drive. He's been great at UNC.

Haha ..there are always exceptions to the rules.

But surely you realize going from the pressure cooker in Austin down to Chapel Hill is less stress than the other way around.

You or whoever brought up Willie Fritz was the point of the conversation . Moving from the AAC from Tulane to Baylor in the Big 12 and recruiting in Texas now against all these other schools may be a tougher chore for the younger coaches now.

That never fails to give me chuckles

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That's insane. Obviously he would see baylor as an upgrade

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Liberty has a lot of money, and he's probably going to get himself a big raise after this season. Yes, the big 12 is better than whatever conference liberty is currently playing in, but it's also a great place to win some games and wait for a bigger job in the SEC to open up.

FLBear5630 said:

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Stefano DiMera said:

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Three current head coaches we may have a chance for that we could talk to..none of them are lighting it up right now but none are at football factories .but they're all young and first 2 are offensive gurus .

Kenny Willingham - Arizona St.. ASU alum...set all sorts of records as Memphis coordinator.

Alex Golesh - USF head coach. OC at UCF and Tennessee under Josh Heupel. Born in Moscow Russia.

Ryan Walters - Purdue . Defensive guru

Thing about these 3 is they got the Power 5 experience as a head coach so they should be better in their 2nd job.

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Golesch- NO!!!! You do not want anything to do with him or a USF product. They are a worse train wreck than Baylor.

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He is only 7 games into his career there and 3-4. USF was 1-11 last season and 2-10 the season before that. How can you say he has created a train wreck.

Stefano DiMera said:

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Three current head coaches we may have a chance for that we could talk to..none of them are lighting it up right now but none are at football factories .but they're all young and first 2 are offensive gurus .

Kenny Willingham - Arizona St.. ASU alum...set all sorts of records as Memphis coordinator.

Alex Golesh - USF head coach. OC at UCF and Tennessee under Josh Heupel. Born in Moscow Russia.

Ryan Walters - Purdue . Defensive guru

Thing about these 3 is they got the Power 5 experience as a head coach so they should be better in their 2nd job.

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It's actually very rare for a sitting P5 coach to leave for another P5, so it seems extremely unlikely that ASU's or Purdue's coach would be available unless they get fired.

The Purdue HC is in his first year as a HC and they are 2-5? They were in the B10 title game last season. Why would he be a candidate?

Stefano DiMera said:

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Three current head coaches we may have a chance for that we could talk to..none of them are lighting it up right now but none are at football factories .but they're all young and first 2 are offensive gurus .

Kenny Willingham - Arizona St.. ASU alum...set all sorts of records as Memphis coordinator.

Alex Golesh - USF head coach. OC at UCF and Tennessee under Josh Heupel. Born in Moscow Russia.

Ryan Walters - Purdue . Defensive guru

Thing about these 3 is they got the Power 5 experience as a head coach so they should be better in their 2nd job.

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All 3 are newbie HC's. Why would you want an unproven guy?

I think a proven G5 coach has a much greater chance of success than the 3 dudes you listed. I also don't understand the logic in your last paragraph.

I don't want anymore defensive gurus. Even when we are good, an offensive team is more fun to watch

Aliceinbubbleland said:

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That never fails to give me chuckles

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It's another example of why the neg option is needed

morethanhecouldbear said:

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Aliceinbubbleland said:

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That never fails to give me chuckles

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It's another example of why the neg option is needed

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I mean I want Nick Saban..but I don't think hes coming..

I'm being realistic..a coordinator may not be the best candidate after Aranda.

The.logic in my last paragraph is Briles was pretty good in his second head coaching job and so was Matt Rhule.

Stefano DiMera said:

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I mean I want Nick Saban..but I don't think hes coming..

I'm being realistic..a coordinator may not be the best candidate after Aranda.

The.logic in my last paragraph is Briles was pretty good in his second head coaching job and so was Matt Rhule.

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Haven't you heard....Rhule is a horrible coach

boognish_bear said:

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Stefano DiMera said:

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I mean I want Nick Saban..but I don't think hes coming..

I'm being realistic..a coordinator may not be the best candidate after Aranda.

The.logic in my last paragraph is Briles was pretty good in his second head coaching job and so was Matt Rhule.

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Haven't you heard....Rhule is a horrible coach

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I heard that if you felt he did a good job here, then you idolize and worship him.

Stefano DiMera said:

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I mean I want Nick Saban..but I don't think hes coming..

I'm being realistic..a coordinator may not be the best candidate after Aranda.

The.logic in my last paragraph is Briles was pretty good in his second head coaching job and so was Matt Rhule.

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The three guys you suggested are all 1st year guys who haven't even finished a season yet. I don't see how you link that with Briles and Rhule and think your 3 guys are going to be successful.

Briles spent 4 years at UH and was 18-8 his last 2 seasons there.
Rhule spent 5 years at Temple and was 20-7 his last 2 seasons there.

I wasn't saying fire Aranda now and hire one of those 3..I was saying keep an eye on those 3 and see how their season turns out.. nothing is happening now..also .that those that fit that profile is probably who we should be looking at .there's probably 5-6 more that fit that profile that are better than those 3 ..

Just like on the first page of this thread I mentioned former Bear Maurice Linguist whose head coach if Buffalo..he fits the profile too .and probably someone who would be here for long term and not be looking for another college or NFL job.

Stefano DiMera said:

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I wasn't saying fire Aranda now and hire one of those 3..I was saying keep an eye on those 3 and see how their season turns out..

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All 3 of them will have one thing in common at the end of the season: 1 year of HC experience.

I am impressed with the job Jonathan Smith and his assistants have done at Oregon State.

Kent St is one of the toughest jobs in the country. Very little funding in the athletic department. He took them to bowl games behind scoring lots of points.

ABC BEAR said:

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I am impressed with the job Jonathan Smith and his assistants have done at Oregon State.

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He has done a great job and is another with no HC experience when he took the job. He was either an OC or maybe just like a QB coach at UW when he was hired as HC. He also didn't have a really good season until his 5th season. If you look at his record had it been at Baylor everyone would have been calling for his firing well before year 5 and he may have been fired before year 5. That said he is like Gundy at the XII's OSU. He is an alum of OrSt and played QB there. I doubt he is interested in leaving there even if they are G5. He is home it would appear.

morethanhecouldbear said:

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boognish_bear said:

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Stefano DiMera said:

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I mean I want Nick Saban..but I don't think hes coming..

I'm being realistic..a coordinator may not be the best candidate after Aranda.

The.logic in my last paragraph is Briles was pretty good in his second head coaching job and so was Matt Rhule.

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Haven't you heard....Rhule is a horrible coach

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I heard that if you felt he did a good job here, then you idolize and worship him.

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Or if you think leaving to go to the NFL after coaching at Baylor is OK, then you must not really love Baylor as much as you should and you have the heart of a traitor and you have a man crush on Satan.

Mack promoted Barry to HC when Pinkel left Mizzou

In his first season at UNLV, Barry Odom has the Rebels at 5-1. Beat Vandy, then clobbered UTEP, Hawaii and Nevada.

UNLV's last bowl season was 2013. Before that, 2000.

— Stewart Mandel (@slmandel) October 16, 2023

No thank you. Mack has hired 5 HCs for different schools only one of them has a really good record at the school he hired them for and that is Herman. Everyone else has produced generally around a .500 record for the school he hired them for. Incidentally the much maligned Ian McCaw who kind of worked stealthly and without fan fare and who looked like an physics professor who couldnt relate at all to athletics, has hired 4 HCs for the school for which he was the AD and 3 have superb records at the school he hired the guys for. Only Morriss had a subpar record.

PartyBear said:

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No thank you. Mack has hired 5 HCs for different schools only one of them has a really good record at the school he hired them for and that is Herman. Everyone else has produced generally around a .500 record for the school he hired them for. Incidentally the much maligned Ian McCaw who kind of worked stealthly and without fan fare and who looked like an physics professor who couldnt relate at all to athletics, has hired 4 HCs for the school for which he was the AD and 3 have superb records at the school he hired the guys for. Only Morriss had a subpar record.

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Even GuyMo was an upgrade over his predecessor

Actually I mis spoke. McCaw was not the AD who hired Morriss. It was Stanton. McCaw's record is even better than I was thinking.

PartyBear said:

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Actually I mis spoke. McCaw was not the AD who hired Morriss. It was Stanton. McCaw's record is even better than I was thinking.

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Oh, you mean Ian "That would be great if they kept it quiet!" McCaw?

i think the list is pretty solid and cannot think of anyone to add

one guy on the list cignetti has beaten two other guys on the list wommack and sumrall

cignetti's team is undefeated so far this year