Curt Cignetti is having another solid season. 8-0 so far..

Chadwell right there with him.

We could replace stonewall with the band director. At least he will have moves on the sidelines and twirl the baton around. Could be O signals. Saving big bucks too.

based on your logic Saban is a bad coach too

Curt Cignetti is 9-0

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What about Blake Anderson?

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First what does BU want to do? If you go young and from a lower program, there will be a learning curve. Rhule was experienced and did that curve at Temple. I think it has to be someone that can hit the ground running. The next 6 years will be important to be decent. Not the time to grow with new Coach learning P5 game.

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i completely agree, baylor has to make a decision

i would personally go with a guy who already has proven success leading a program not a guy like aranda who has never led a program

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We need to pivot from embracing the suck to re-embracing our identity as a stepping stone. Nick Saban or Jesus ain't coming to coach Baylor. Nor is anybody else who is above average. So get that through our thick skulls and look for that up and coming G5 coach with STRONG Texas ties. We need to get back to what made us better in the early 2010s -- pissed off 2 and 3 star players who want to be coached up. And yes, we will probably lose that coach, but at least there might be something resembling a foundation for the next guy. Winning seems an eternity away, but let's at least begin a realistic rebuild.

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Yup. We are not getting a Coach whose presence recruits. Aranda is not leveraging our weakness to power, the guy needs to go back to being a DC at a school with a surplus of talent. We need people with experience winning with limited resources. Herman, Fleck, Leach (RIP), etc

No Quarterback said:

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I'm honestly starting to get into the "anybody but Dave" camp. Local high school coach. A homeless guy. The animatronic mouse at Chuck E. Cheese. Anybody

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It's almost impossible to get worse. We may as well try someone else.

Krieg said:

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No Quarterback said:

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I'm honestly starting to get into the "anybody but Dave" camp. Local high school coach. A homeless guy. The animatronic mouse at Chuck E. Cheese. Anybody

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It's almost impossible to get worse. We may as well try someone else.

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Agreed. Need a boost of positivity into the program. I have a bad feeling its going to be an exodus of players into the portal (especially the few we do not want to leave). Time to bring some energy and a new voice

Just so you know, Kinne played a few years in nfl, so He might could have got on the field for Texas.

Krieg said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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tpj1991 said:

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Krieg said:

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No Quarterback said:

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I'm honestly starting to get into the "anybody but Dave" camp. Local high school coach. A homeless guy. The animatronic mouse at Chuck E. Cheese. Anybody

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It's almost impossible to get worse. We may as well try someone else.

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Agreed. Need a boost of positivity into the program. I have a bad feeling its going to be an exodus of players into the portal (especially the few we do not want to leave). Time to bring some energy and a new voice

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I am really starting to believe that you need someone, at a program like Baylor, like L,each at Tech or Rodriguez at WVU that changes the way we approach the game. Broyles did that, too. Otherwise, we will always be at a talent deficit and it is going to get worse as NIL becomes more entrenched. Guys like Aranda are not the answer. Have to shift the paradigm.

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Yep. It's one of the main reasons Briles worked.

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Yup. Remember a Camp at WVU I attended when coaching middle school. Rich Rodeiguez was asked why he ran the 335 and zone-read. His answer was that WVU couldn't recruit against the Blue Bloods consistently. Running off-systems allowed them to find tweener athletes that would attend WVU and could compete in the right system. The other thing he said was that Coaching BCS (at the time) football was no different than coaching middle school, they teach the same things. Just faster, more precise and less margin of error. Really was a great camp. Never understood him leaving, he was a perfect fit for WVU. My son still follows WVU even though he is an Aggie, he was 10 when he attended.

I agree 100% with him. We can't recruit against A&M, UT and the SEC consistently. Need to find a system that is Baylor.

Krieg said:

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No Quarterback said:

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I'm honestly starting to get into the "anybody but Dave" camp. Local high school coach. A homeless guy. The animatronic mouse at Chuck E. Cheese. Anybody

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It's almost impossible to get worse.

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1997-2004 says hi.

If we continue to blow off NIL and Rhoades is in charge of the next coaching change I would agree we are headed back to 1999.

For those of you who really don't know we right now are not close to 99 levels. Just for perspective a team like that UH team yesterday would have beat us in the neighborhood of 42-7 in 99. So yes bad management can actually make this a lot worse and it is much easier for them to make it much worse than make it better unfortunately.

Again take it from a guy who has lived through this before. Trust me you don't want to experience it and I refuse to experience it again in the way I did the last time.

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jikespingleton said:

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Krieg said:

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No Quarterback said:

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I'm honestly starting to get into the "anybody but Dave" camp. Local high school coach. A homeless guy. The animatronic mouse at Chuck E. Cheese. Anybody

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It's almost impossible to get worse.

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1997-2004 says hi.

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Look around you. We're staring at a likely 3-9 finish

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1998 we finished 2-9
1999 we finished 1-10

It can get worse.

jikespingleton said:

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Krieg said:

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jikespingleton said:

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Krieg said:

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No Quarterback said:

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I'm honestly starting to get into the "anybody but Dave" camp. Local high school coach. A homeless guy. The animatronic mouse at Chuck E. Cheese. Anybody

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It's almost impossible to get worse.

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1997-2004 says hi.

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Look around you. We're staring at a likely 3-9 finish

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1998 we finished 2-9
1999 we finished 1-10

It can get worse.

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Barely, and we're already as bad as most of the years you cited. 1 win or 3, though, aren't materially different. You win 6+ or you don't and it's a failure. 1 win, 3 wins, 4 wins, whatever. They're all the same thing.

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If we continue to blow off NIL and Rhoades is in charge of the next coaching change I would agree we are headed back to 1999.

For those of you who really don't know we right now are not close to 99 levels. Just for perspective a team like that UH team yesterday would have beat us in the neighborhood of 42-7 in 99. So yes bad management can actually make this a lot worse and it is much easier for them to make it much worse than make it better unfortunately.

Again take it from a guy who has lived through this before. Trust me you don't want to experience it and I refuse to experience it again in the way I did the last time.

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Sure, results can be worse but the W/L can't be much worse and that will lead to the beatings you're referencing will occur in short order with this record. Especially when every player can just up and leave.

Krieg said:

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jikespingleton said:

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Krieg said:

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jikespingleton said:

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Krieg said:

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No Quarterback said:

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I'm honestly starting to get into the "anybody but Dave" camp. Local high school coach. A homeless guy. The animatronic mouse at Chuck E. Cheese. Anybody

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It's almost impossible to get worse.

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1997-2004 says hi.

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Look around you. We're staring at a likely 3-9 finish

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1998 we finished 2-9
1999 we finished 1-10

It can get worse.

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Barely, and we're already as bad as most of the years you cited. 1 win or 3, though, aren't materially different. You win 6+ or you don't and it's a failure. 1 win, 3 wins, 4 wins, whatever. They're all the same thing.

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Those days it was a lack of talent. Can't remember ever hearing a Coach lost the locker room like Aranda said. Maybe I misread or misinterpreted, but if true that right there is enough for a change as talent is not 3 win level.

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jikespingleton said:

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Krieg said:

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jikespingleton said:

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Krieg said:

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No Quarterback said:

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I'm honestly starting to get into the "anybody but Dave" camp. Local high school coach. A homeless guy. The animatronic mouse at Chuck E. Cheese. Anybody

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It's almost impossible to get worse.

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1997-2009 says hi.

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Look around you. We're staring at a likely 3-9 finish

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1998 we finished 2-9
1999 we finished 1-10

It can get worse.

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Barely, and we're already as bad as most of the years you cited. 1 win or 3, though, aren't materially different. You win 6+ or you don't and it's a failure. 1 win, 3 wins, 4 wins, whatever. They're all the same thing.

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We suck right now, I am in agreement with you. However, we are not in the same place that we were from 1997-2009 - not even close.

for arguments sake let us say aranda comes back in 2024 and runs the season into the ground again

if mack goes and hires another coordinator with no hc experience i will get a group together to fly a banner around waco and it will not say something nice

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FLBear5630 said:

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TheAgentGrant said:

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What about Blake Anderson?

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First what does BU want to do? If you go young and from a lower program, there will be a learning curve. Rhule was experienced and did that curve at Temple. I think it has to be someone that can hit the ground running. The next 6 years will be important to be decent. Not the time to grow with new Coach learning P5 game.

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i completely agree

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KSU coach would disagree.....

He won multiple nattys at that lower level

BluesBear said:

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thales said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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TheAgentGrant said:

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What about Blake Anderson?

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First what does BU want to do? If you go young and from a lower program, there will be a learning curve. Rhule was experienced and did that curve at Temple. I think it has to be someone that can hit the ground running. The next 6 years will be important to be decent. Not the time to grow with new Coach learning P5 game.

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i completely agree

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KSU coach would disagree.....

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You really think he is calling the shots at KSU? You don't think the "Bill Snyder" way is the way KSU rolls, period. Snyder was so anal he picked the brand butter on meals for flights and set the route for the buses to drive. You think he doesn't have any say. KSU is like Wisky, nothing happens in Madison without Alverez's blessing.