What are your arguments other than the fact that it would be expensive to fire him or inconvenient in some sort of way?

I haven't seen anyone saying that we should keep him based on performance, only that it's a waste of time to hear constant whining when we know we can't afford the buyout.

It is what it is. I will support the team because that's what I do. Doesn't mean I think Aranda has earned his pay because he hasn't, but I realize that whining and moaning on a message board gets old.

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I haven't seen anyone saying that we should keep him based on performance, only that it's a waste of time to hear constant whining when we know we can't afford the buyout.

It is what it is. I will support the team because that's what I do. Doesn't mean I think Aranda has earned his pay because he hasn't, but I realize that whining and moaning on a message board gets old.

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Watching bad football gets older. We've lost six straight and have backwards momentum as a program currently. Whining and moaning comes with the territory.

There's a simple way for Dave Aranda and Co. to end it. Score more points than the opponent every once in a while.

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I haven't seen anyone saying that we should keep him based on performance, only that it's a waste of time to hear constant whining when we know we can't afford the buyout.

It is what it is. I will support the team because that's what I do. Doesn't mean I think Aranda has earned his pay because he hasn't, but I realize that whining and moaning on a message board gets old.

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Well I mean it is a Baylor sports message board. Should we just talk about the weather?

I don't want to start over with a new coach and staff but then again it seems to work for Colorado

gobears20 said:

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I don't want to start over with a new coach and staff but then again it seems to work for Colorado

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Change is scary. I get it. A new coaching staff means growing pains, and of course the new coach could be worse than the old coach.

No Quarterback said:

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gobears20 said:

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I don't want to start over with a new coach and staff but then again it seems to work for Colorado

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Change is scary. I get it

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Because firing a guy in Week 2 is absolutely asinine. We have a cupcake game we'll win by 40 next week, and the can focus all efforts on taking down Texas. If we do that and are sitting at 2-2, the schedule sets up nicely for a bowl season, and we can finish with some momentum.

I can choose to focus on that, or I can spew bile all over a fan message board. Neither one accomplishes anything.

Mitch Henessey said:

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No Quarterback said:

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gobears20 said:

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I don't want to start over with a new coach and staff but then again it seems to work for Colorado

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Change is scary. I get it

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Because firing a guy in Week 2 is absolutely asinine. We have a cupcake game we'll win by 40 next week, and the can fo us all efforts on taking down Texas. If we do that and are sitting at 2-2, the schedule sets up nicely for a bowl season, and we can finish with some momentum.

I can choose to focus on that, or I can spew bile all over a fan message board. Neither one accomplishes anything, but one of them doesn't actively make everyone around you miserable. You've chosen otherwise, which is your prerogative.

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Nm

No Quarterback said:

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EvilTroyAndAbed said:

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I haven't seen anyone saying that we should keep him based on performance, only that it's a waste of time to hear constant whining when we know we can't afford the buyout.

It is what it is. I will support the team because that's what I do. Doesn't mean I think Aranda has earned his pay because he hasn't, but I realize that whining and moaning on a message board gets old.

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Well I mean it is a Baylor sports message board. Should we just talk about the weather?

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I suppose we could talk about politics on here some more lol

So as of right now, I haven't seen a single good reason not to fire Dave. As a summary, the two pro-Aranda responses we have in this thread are

-it doesn't make sense to fire a bad coach 2 games into the season

-You're not allowed to talk bad about a Baylor coach on a Baylor message board

People who want to keep Aranda could have a meeting tomorrow after church....unfortunately there are no phone booths around anymore.

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So as of right now, I haven't seen a single good reason not to fire Dave. As a summary, the two pro-Aranda responses we have in this thread are

-You're not allowed to fire a bad coach 2 games into the season

-You're not allowed to talk bad about a Baylor coach on a Baylor message board

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No one has said anything about "not allowed." If you can a guy this early, unless he's just straight-up unqualified, which 2021 proved Aranda is not, you're giving up on the rest of the season. If the wheels fall off and we go 2-10, or something, then you scrounge up the money for the buyout, no matter how painful it is.

But firing DA now virtually guarantees 2-10 with almost no upside, and doesn't give you that much of a leg up on hiring his replacement. It's just an emotional kneejerk reaction to make emotional kneejerk fans feel better for a week until they find something else to complain about with the interim coach.

Nm

Mitch Henessey said:

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No Quarterback said:

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gobears20 said:

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I don't want to start over with a new coach and staff but then again it seems to work for Colorado

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Change is scary. I get it

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Because firing a guy in Week 2 is absolutely asinine. We have a cupcake game we'll win by 40 next week, and the can focus all efforts on taking down Texas. If we do that and are sitting at 2-2, the schedule sets up nicely for a bowl season, and we can finish with some momentum.

I can choose to focus on that, or I can spew bile all over a fan message board. Neither one accomplishes anything, but one of them doesn't actively make everyone around you miserable. You've chosen otherwise, which is your prerogative.

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UT is gonna torch us.....

BluesBear said:

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Mitch Henessey said:

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No Quarterback said:

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gobears20 said:

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I don't want to start over with a new coach and staff but then again it seems to work for Colorado

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Change is scary. I get it

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Because firing a guy in Week 2 is absolutely asinine. We have a cupcake game we'll win by 40 next week, and the can focus all efforts on taking down Texas. If we do that and are sitting at 2-2, the schedule sets up nicely for a bowl season, and we can finish with some momentum.

I can choose to focus on that, or I can spew bile all over a fan message board. Neither one accomplishes anything, but one of them doesn't actively make everyone around you miserable. You've chosen otherwise, which is your prerogative.

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UT is gonna torch us.....

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You said the same thing about Utah, my guy. You even wanted to bet your mortgage on it at -8.5.

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So as of right now, I haven't seen a single good reason not to fire Dave. As a summary, the two pro-Aranda responses we have in this thread are

-You're not allowed to fire a bad coach 2 games into the season (no offense Mitch)

-You're not allowed to talk bad about a Baylor coach on a Baylor message board

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So you're in the camp of "fire Aranda tonight."

So the money for his buyout has to come from somewhere. Then we still have to play the rest of the season. Who is going to be the head coach? Then you have to think about when you can hire a long term coach, which my assumption is that it won't be until the end of the season. I guess we'd surrender a season's worth of recruiting. But nowadays you can go the transfer portal route as long as you have a good NIL program. Do we have one of those?

I'm not happy about this at all. Nor am I a defender of Aranda. But firing him now does you no favors. It doesn't help the team. It doesn't help the program. And for the last time, we don't have the money to buy him out. So talk of "we have to fire him tonight" is just useless.

EvilTroyAndAbed said:

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No Quarterback said:

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So as of right now, I haven't seen a single good reason not to fire Dave. As a summary, the two pro-Aranda responses we have in this thread are

-You're not allowed to fire a bad coach 2 games into the season (no offense Mitch)

-You're not allowed to talk bad about a Baylor coach on a Baylor message board

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So you're in the camp of "fire Aranda tonight."

So the money for his buyout has to come from somewhere. Then we still have to play the rest of the season. Who is going to be the head coach? Then you have to think about when you can hire a long term coach, which my assumption is that it won't be until the end of the season. I guess we'd surrender a season's worth of recruiting. But nowadays you can go the transfer portal route as long as you have a good NIL program. Do we have one of those?

I'm not happy about this at all. Nor am I a defender of Aranda. But firing him now does you no favors. It doesn't help the team. It doesn't help the program. And for the last time, we don't have the money to buy him out. So talk of "we have to fire him tonight" is just useless.

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I'm not terribly optimistic, but I think you have to give it at least until November to see if some miracle happens and he starts to figure out head coaching.

No Quarterback said:

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Mitch Henessey said:

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No Quarterback said:

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gobears20 said:

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I don't want to start over with a new coach and staff but then again it seems to work for Colorado

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Change is scary. I get it

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Because firing a guy in Week 2 is absolutely asinine. We have a cupcake game we'll win by 40 next week, and the can fo us all efforts on taking down Texas. If we do that and are sitting at 2-2, the schedule sets up nicely for a bowl season, and we can finish with some momentum.

I can choose to focus on that, or I can spew bile all over a fan message board. Neither one accomplishes anything, but one of them doesn't actively make everyone around you miserable. You've chosen otherwise, which is your prerogative.

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You randomly insulted me in the other thread Mitch. I don't know you from Adam. No offense though. And now you're acting high and mighty coming into this thread trying to start something with me. I'll just put you on ignore, how about that? Enjoy the loss buddy. There will be many more this season to celebrate i suspect. We kept the game close, and it really is worthy of a soft serve ice cream party I think. No offense

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Whoever this Mitch character is, he completely deserved this response.

EvilTroyAndAbed said:

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No Quarterback said:

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So as of right now, I haven't seen a single good reason not to fire Dave. As a summary, the two pro-Aranda responses we have in this thread are

-You're not allowed to fire a bad coach 2 games into the season (no offense Mitch)

-You're not allowed to talk bad about a Baylor coach on a Baylor message board

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So you're in the camp of "fire Aranda tonight."

So the money for his buyout has to come from somewhere. Then we still have to play the rest of the season. Who is going to be the head coach? Then you have to think about when you can hire a long term coach, which my assumption is that it won't be until the end of the season. I guess we'd surrender a season's worth of recruiting. But nowadays you can go the transfer portal route as long as you have a good NIL program. Do we have one of those?

I'm not happy about this at all. Nor am I a defender of Aranda. But firing him now does you no favors. It doesn't help the team. It doesn't help the program. And for the last time, we don't have the money to buy him out. So talk of "we have to fire him tonight" is just useless.

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Before the internet these conversations took place in bars on Saturday night and the statements made were largely forgotten by Monday morning.....everyone is just letting off some hot gas tonight, logic has taken the weekend off.

EvilTroyAndAbed said:

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No Quarterback said:

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So as of right now, I haven't seen a single good reason not to fire Dave. As a summary, the two pro-Aranda responses we have in this thread are

-You're not allowed to fire a bad coach 2 games into the season (no offense Mitch)

-You're not allowed to talk bad about a Baylor coach on a Baylor message board

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So you're in the camp of "fire Aranda tonight."

So the money for his buyout has to come from somewhere. Then we still have to play the rest of the season. Who is going to be the head coach? Then you have to think about when you can hire a long term coach, which my assumption is that it won't be until the end of the season. I guess we'd surrender a season's worth of recruiting. But nowadays you can go the transfer portal route as long as you have a good NIL program. Do we have one of those?

I'm not happy about this at all. Nor am I a defender of Aranda. But firing him now does you no favors. It doesn't help the team. It doesn't help the program. And for the last time, we don't have the money to buy him out. So talk of "we have to fire him tonight" is just useless.

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Oh I don't necessarily think we HAVE to fire him tonight, but the search committee needs to be hired etc. etc. I realize hiring and firing a coach is a process that takes a few weeks. I suppose it begs the question of what defines a successful season at Baylor. I think Dave can be a coach that can be a consistent 6-6 win kind of guy. Is that good enough for the powers that be? Who knows

ABC BEAR said:

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EvilTroyAndAbed said:

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No Quarterback said:

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So as of right now, I haven't seen a single good reason not to fire Dave. As a summary, the two pro-Aranda responses we have in this thread are

-You're not allowed to fire a bad coach 2 games into the season (no offense Mitch)

-You're not allowed to talk bad about a Baylor coach on a Baylor message board

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So you're in the camp of "fire Aranda tonight."

So the money for his buyout has to come from somewhere. Then we still have to play the rest of the season. Who is going to be the head coach? Then you have to think about when you can hire a long term coach, which my assumption is that it won't be until the end of the season. I guess we'd surrender a season's worth of recruiting. But nowadays you can go the transfer portal route as long as you have a good NIL program. Do we have one of those?

I'm not happy about this at all. Nor am I a defender of Aranda. But firing him now does you no favors. It doesn't help the team. It doesn't help the program. And for the last time, we don't have the money to buy him out. So talk of "we have to fire him tonight" is just useless.

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Before the internet these conversations took place in bars on Saturday night and the statements made were largely forgotten by Monday morning.....everyone is just letting off some hot gas tonight, logic has taken the weekend off.

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And there was no paper trail.

No Quarterback said:

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EvilTroyAndAbed said:

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No Quarterback said:

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So as of right now, I haven't seen a single good reason not to fire Dave. As a summary, the two pro-Aranda responses we have in this thread are

-You're not allowed to fire a bad coach 2 games into the season (no offense Mitch)

-You're not allowed to talk bad about a Baylor coach on a Baylor message board

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So you're in the camp of "fire Aranda tonight."

So the money for his buyout has to come from somewhere. Then we still have to play the rest of the season. Who is going to be the head coach? Then you have to think about when you can hire a long term coach, which my assumption is that it won't be until the end of the season. I guess we'd surrender a season's worth of recruiting. But nowadays you can go the transfer portal route as long as you have a good NIL program. Do we have one of those?

I'm not happy about this at all. Nor am I a defender of Aranda. But firing him now does you no favors. It doesn't help the team. It doesn't help the program. And for the last time, we don't have the money to buy him out. So talk of "we have to fire him tonight" is just useless.

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Oh I don't necessarily think we HAVE to fire him tonight, but the search committee needs to be hired etc. etc. I realize hiring and firing a coach is a process that takes a few weeks. I suppose it begs the question of what defines a successful season at Baylor. I think Dave can be a coach that can be a consistent 6-6 win kind of guy. Is that good enough for the powers that be? Who knows

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This is totally reasonable, and for the record, I agree with you on this.

57Bear said:

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ABC BEAR said:

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EvilTroyAndAbed said:

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No Quarterback said:

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So as of right now, I haven't seen a single good reason not to fire Dave. As a summary, the two pro-Aranda responses we have in this thread are

-You're not allowed to fire a bad coach 2 games into the season (no offense Mitch)

-You're not allowed to talk bad about a Baylor coach on a Baylor message board

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So you're in the camp of "fire Aranda tonight."

So the money for his buyout has to come from somewhere. Then we still have to play the rest of the season. Who is going to be the head coach? Then you have to think about when you can hire a long term coach, which my assumption is that it won't be until the end of the season. I guess we'd surrender a season's worth of recruiting. But nowadays you can go the transfer portal route as long as you have a good NIL program. Do we have one of those?

I'm not happy about this at all. Nor am I a defender of Aranda. But firing him now does you no favors. It doesn't help the team. It doesn't help the program. And for the last time, we don't have the money to buy him out. So talk of "we have to fire him tonight" is just useless.

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Before the internet these conversations took place in bars on Saturday night and the statements made were largely forgotten by Monday morning.....everyone is just letting off some hot gas tonight, logic has taken the weekend off.

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And there was no paper trail.

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You're right. The only things left in the morning were a sticky floor and a lot of trash to carry out.

Cove Dawg said:

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No Quarterback said:

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Mitch Henessey said:

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No Quarterback said:

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gobears20 said:

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I don't want to start over with a new coach and staff but then again it seems to work for Colorado

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Change is scary. I get it

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Because firing a guy in Week 2 is absolutely asinine. We have a cupcake game we'll win by 40 next week, and the can fo us all efforts on taking down Texas. If we do that and are sitting at 2-2, the schedule sets up nicely for a bowl season, and we can finish with some momentum.

I can choose to focus on that, or I can spew bile all over a fan message board. Neither one accomplishes anything, but one of them doesn't actively make everyone around you miserable. You've chosen otherwise, which is your prerogative.

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You randomly insulted me in the other thread Mitch. I don't know you from Adam. No offense though. And now you're acting high and mighty coming into this thread trying to start something with me. I'll just put you on ignore, how about that? Enjoy the loss buddy. There will be many more this season to celebrate i suspect. We kept the game close, and it really is worthy of a soft serve ice cream party I think. No offense

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Whoever this Mitch character is, he completely deserved this response.

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Nm. I apologize to Mitch for the personal attacks.

Simmer down, fellas. Twenty years from now you won't remember anything about it.

If you fire Aranda, then one of the coordinators becomes interim coach. No improvement

I have no real argument to keep him, but I don't think today's game really changes much. That was a good team. We lost. It sucks.

Yes, none of the Aranda apologists are able to make any semblance of an argument in support of the team. And how can they with a straight face? We have lost 6 straight and our recruiting is not what it once was just 4 years ago. Our players, with about 4 exceptions, are average at best. Simply put, we are not good.

EvilTroyAndAbed said:

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No Quarterback said:

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So as of right now, I haven't seen a single good reason not to fire Dave. As a summary, the two pro-Aranda responses we have in this thread are

-You're not allowed to fire a bad coach 2 games into the season (no offense Mitch)

-You're not allowed to talk bad about a Baylor coach on a Baylor message board

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So you're in the camp of "fire Aranda tonight."

So the money for his buyout has to come from somewhere. Then we still have to play the rest of the season. Who is going to be the head coach? Then you have to think about when you can hire a long term coach, which my assumption is that it won't be until the end of the season. I guess we'd surrender a season's worth of recruiting. But nowadays you can go the transfer portal route as long as you have a good NIL program. Do we have one of those?

I'm not happy about this at all. Nor am I a defender of Aranda. But firing him now does you no favors. It doesn't help the team. It doesn't help the program. And for the last time, we don't have the money to buy him out. So talk of "we have to fire him tonight" is just useless.

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Is Grobe still alive?

Mitch Henessey said:

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BluesBear said:

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Mitch Henessey said:

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No Quarterback said:

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gobears20 said:

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I don't want to start over with a new coach and staff but then again it seems to work for Colorado

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Change is scary. I get it

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Because firing a guy in Week 2 is absolutely asinine. We have a cupcake game we'll win by 40 next week, and the can focus all efforts on taking down Texas. If we do that and are sitting at 2-2, the schedule sets up nicely for a bowl season, and we can finish with some momentum.

I can choose to focus on that, or I can spew bile all over a fan message board. Neither one accomplishes anything, but one of them doesn't actively make everyone around you miserable. You've chosen otherwise, which is your prerogative.

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UT is gonna torch us.....

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You said the same thing about Utah, my guy. You even wanted to bet your mortgage on it at -8.5.

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You think Utah could march into Tuscaloosa and win?

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We think he is very smart
Maybe he's simple

wongobear said:

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I have no real argument to keep him, but I don't think today's game really changes much. That was a good team. We lost. It sucks.

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They will be a good team when they are healthy perhaps

I know it is with "Rhule's players" but he is one of two coaches in Baylor history to win a Big 12 title. And we won a major bowl game under him. Briles and Rhule didn't do that.

That plus the buyout will likely make his leash longer than it should be.

I don't mind if we can the guy. The Grimes thing is insufferable, recruiting has been bleh, and the last 6 games have been an abomination.

But no one jumps off the table as his successor right now. I'll admit that. For all the hype around Joey, Tech is 0-2 as well.

There is no way we will fire and pay the kind of money to get out of this contract. I just hope he and the other coaches and players get better. Next subject.