boognish_bear said:

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Wrote about Baylor's reported transfer portal QB targets. Here's everything you need to know about Taylen Green, Matthew Sluka, Chandler Rogers and more:#SicEmhttps://t.co/MJbJ6eQ8Ze

— Jackson Posey, Basketball School Attender ✞ (@ByJacksonPosey) December 7, 2023

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Rogers, green, morris, sluka, bauer and in that order

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Oregon quarterback Ty Thompson (@ty_thompson7) tells ESPN that he intends to enter the NCAA transfer portal. Thompson will be immediately eligible at his next stop and will have two seasons of eligibility remaining.

— Pete Thamel (@PeteThamel) December 10, 2023

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Well, former 4 star Michael Van Buren is leaving Oregon for Miss State. Be interesting to see if Shapen gets on the field.

Flipped my 247Sports Crystal Ball to #Nebraska for five-star QB Dylan Raiola. https://t.co/6OevNXYpt2

— Steve Wiltfong (@SWiltfong247) December 11, 2023

NEWS: North Carolina redshirt sophomore quarterback Drake Maye tells ESPN that he’s forgoing the remainder of his eligibility at UNC to declare for the NFL Draft. He’s a strong contender for the No. 1 overall pick in the 2024 NFL Draft. pic.twitter.com/trECksvgql

— Pete Thamel (@PeteThamel) December 11, 2023

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Oregon quarterback Ty Thompson (@ty_thompson7) tells ESPN that he intends to enter the NCAA transfer portal. Thompson will be immediately eligible at his next stop and will have two seasons of eligibility remaining.

— Pete Thamel (@PeteThamel) December 10, 2023

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Well, former 4 star Michael Van Buren is leaving Oregon for Miss State. Be interesting to see if Shapen gets on the field.

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Van Buren isn't a former four-star recruit. He's a 2024 grad. He won't likely beat out Shapen as a true freshman.

boognish_bear said:

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Former Texas Tech quarterback Tyler Shough (@tylershough2) is transferring to Louisville, he told ESPN. Shough, 24, will be a seventh-year senior who turns 25 next year. He’s played at both Oregon and Texas Tech since starting his college career in 2018. pic.twitter.com/OHyxwzSg7d

— Pete Thamel (@PeteThamel) December 6, 2023

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Lots of people go to college for 7 years...

QB is the most complicated portal position. I don't even know how you would advise a HS stud trying to figure out where to go.

The Raiola buzz underscores a thought I had, in light of QB transfer acquisition w/ top-level programs. Will more elite-level high school QBs shift where they consider going first? If you want to play right away, why would you pick a top-5/10 program that can land top transfers?

— Adam Rittenberg (@ESPNRittenberg) December 12, 2023

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Former Texas Tech quarterback Tyler Shough (@tylershough2) is transferring to Louisville, he told ESPN. Shough, 24, will be a seventh-year senior who turns 25 next year. He’s played at both Oregon and Texas Tech since starting his college career in 2018. pic.twitter.com/OHyxwzSg7d

— Pete Thamel (@PeteThamel) December 6, 2023

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Lots of people go to college for 7 years...

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"Yeah. They are called doctors"

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boognish_bear said:

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Oregon quarterback Ty Thompson (@ty_thompson7) tells ESPN that he intends to enter the NCAA transfer portal. Thompson will be immediately eligible at his next stop and will have two seasons of eligibility remaining.

— Pete Thamel (@PeteThamel) December 10, 2023

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Well, former 4 star Michael Van Buren is leaving Oregon for Miss State. Be interesting to see if Shapen gets on the field.

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Van Buren isn't a former four-star recruit. He's a 2024 grad. He won't likely beat out Shapen as a true freshman.

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"Michael Van Buren, 4-Star Quarterback, De-Commits From Oregon Ducks"

I mis-stated, thank you for pointing out.

Want to bet on who plays more snaps? Miss St promised something to get kid away from Oregon.

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boognish_bear said:

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Oregon quarterback Ty Thompson (@ty_thompson7) tells ESPN that he intends to enter the NCAA transfer portal. Thompson will be immediately eligible at his next stop and will have two seasons of eligibility remaining.

— Pete Thamel (@PeteThamel) December 10, 2023

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Well, former 4 star Michael Van Buren is leaving Oregon for Miss State. Be interesting to see if Shapen gets on the field.

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Van Buren isn't a former four-star recruit. He's a 2024 grad. He won't likely beat out Shapen as a true freshman.

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"Michael Van Buren, 4-Star Quarterback, De-Commits From Oregon Ducks"

I mis-stated, thank you for pointing out.

Want to bet on who plays more snaps? Miss St promised something to get kid away from Oregon.

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I think it's more likely the kid left Oregon for the same reason every other young QB does. He was never going to play a down there. Oregon uses high school QBs as insurance policies and grabs all its starters from the portal. Kids are finally wising up to that.

Lot of ignorant takes on Blake in here.

Shapen transferring is a big loss. He laid it all on the line and improved from last year to this year. All while not having time to throw and no running game to support him. His reads were better, his decision making was better and his leadership improved.

2008-2009 RG3 wouldn't have led this team to more than 4 wins and I feel the talent on this current team is comparable to those years.

We now lack experience at QB and we have a new OC. Those are not usually recipes for success.

Good luck in your future Blake!

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Lot of ignorant takes on Blake in here.

Shapen transferring is a big loss. He laid it all on the line and improved quite a bit from last year to this year. All while not having time to throw and no running game to support him.

RG3 wouldn't have led this team to more than 4 wins.

We now lack experience at QB and we have a new OC. Those are not usually recipes for success.

Good luck in your future Blake!

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I would agree that he is a loss unless we replace him with someone that can at least be a mid tier P5 starter.

It's debatable that he got better this year. You could argue that he was worse. He definitely was not significantly improved over last year, and the stats confirm that.

RGIII would've absolutely led this team to more than four wins with the easy schedule we had. To compare Shapen to RGIII in terms their ability to put a team on their back is crazy. RGIII won a Heisman and went on to be the second overall pick behind a generational talent in Andrew luck. Shapen may not even win the starting job in his super senior year at Mississippi State, and he is probably not going to be drafted. Those are the facts

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morethanhecouldbear said:

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Lot of ignorant takes on Blake in here.

Shapen transferring is a big loss. He laid it all on the line and improved quite a bit from last year to this year. All while not having time to throw and no running game to support him.

RG3 wouldn't have led this team to more than 4 wins.

We now lack experience at QB and we have a new OC. Those are not usually recipes for success.

Good luck in your future Blake!

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I would agree that he is a loss unless we replace him with someone that can at least be a mid tier P5 starter.

It's debatable that he got better this year. You could argue that he was worse. He definitely was not significantly improved over last year, and the stats confirm that.

RGIII would've absolutely led this team to more than four wins with the easy schedule we had. To compare Shapen to RGIII in terms their ability to put a team on their back is crazy. RGIII won a Heisman and went on to be the second overall pick behind a generational talent in Andrew luck. Shapen may not even win the starting job in his super senior year at Mississippi State, and he is probably not going to be drafted. Those are the facts

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RG3 with Grimes? I think our fans underestimate how horrible Grimes was in this mess. His offensive design is just stupid, and his play calling is even worse. Maybe we win a few more games with RG3, but only if he did it outside of Grimes' system.

This is the same OC that benched our best RB all year only to have that RB prove how good he was in the final game.

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No Quarterback said:

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morethanhecouldbear said:

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Lot of ignorant takes on Blake in here.

Shapen transferring is a big loss. He laid it all on the line and improved quite a bit from last year to this year. All while not having time to throw and no running game to support him.

RG3 wouldn't have led this team to more than 4 wins.

We now lack experience at QB and we have a new OC. Those are not usually recipes for success.

Good luck in your future Blake!

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I would agree that he is a loss unless we replace him with someone that can at least be a mid tier P5 starter.

It's debatable that he got better this year. You could argue that he was worse. He definitely was not significantly improved over last year, and the stats confirm that.

RGIII would've absolutely led this team to more than four wins with the easy schedule we had. To compare Shapen to RGIII in terms their ability to put a team on their back is crazy. RGIII won a Heisman and went on to be the second overall pick behind a generational talent in Andrew luck. Shapen may not even win the starting job in his super senior year at Mississippi State, and he is probably not going to be drafted. Those are the facts

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RG3 with Grimes? I think our fans underestimate how horrible Grimes was in this mess. His offensive design is just stupid, and his play calling is even worse. Maybe we win a few more games with RG3, but only if he did it outside of Grimes' system.

This is the same OC that benched our best RB all year only to have that RB prove how good he was in the final game.

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Yeah agree to disagree. RGIII was a game changer with his feet. He could at least be utilized like Zach Wilson was in Grimes offense. Grimes offense was good at multiple stops with the right players. Like I said, it's crazy to say that RGIII would only win four games with this easy schedule that we played last year. I guess Von Miller wouldn't have more than a couple sacks playing for Aranda and Powledge using that logic

It will be interesting returning to this thread next season. I expect Blake to have minimum 4000 passing yards in Briles' system at Mississippi State just based off of how some folks view him. If that's the case, I will take back what I said about him being a midtier starter

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It will be interesting returning to this thread next season. I expect Blake to have minimum 4000 passing yards in Briles' system at Mississippi State just based off of how some folks view him. If that's the case, I will take back what I said about him being a midtier starter

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If Shapen throws for 4000 yards in the SEC, I will drive to Starkville and thank him for his 2 years at Baylor.

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morethanhecouldbear said:

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Lot of ignorant takes on Blake in here.

Shapen transferring is a big loss. He laid it all on the line and improved from last year to this year. All while not having time to throw and no running game to support him.

RG3 wouldn't have led this team to more than 4 wins.

We now lack experience at QB and we have a new OC. Those are not usually recipes for success.

Good luck in your future Blake!

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RGIII would've absolutely led this team to more than four wins with the easy schedule we had.

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This is a team sport. RG3 won 4 games his first year and 4 games his second year. I'd say we have comparable talent to those 2008 and 2009 squads. If anything, this years squad had less.

The point is this team was bad and it's going to take a lot more than 1 guy to make a difference.

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No Quarterback said:

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morethanhecouldbear said:

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Lot of ignorant takes on Blake in here.

Shapen transferring is a big loss. He laid it all on the line and improved quite a bit from last year to this year. All while not having time to throw and no running game to support him.

RG3 wouldn't have led this team to more than 4 wins.

We now lack experience at QB and we have a new OC. Those are not usually recipes for success.

Good luck in your future Blake!

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RGIII would've absolutely led this team to more than four wins with the easy schedule we had.

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This is a team sport. RG3 won 4 games his first year and 4 games his second year. I'd say we have comparable talent to those 2008 and 2009 squads. If anything, this years squad had less.

The point is this team was bad and it's going to take a lot more than 1 guy to make a difference.

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Assuming we are talking 2011 RGIII, we win against Texas State, possibly Utah, UH, and West Virginia with RGIII as our quarterback. That's 6-7 wins. Another way to put this is, you don't think Griffin would make the key difference in what were 3 one-score games and then Texas State?

Also, we need to prove with statistics that Shapen was significantly better this year than he was last year. the stats do not support that.

Like I said, Shapen better tear it up at Mississippi State next year since he makes just as big of an impact on a team's W/L record as a previous Heisman winner would

It will be interesting returning to this thread next season. I expect Blake to have minimum 4000 passing yards in Briles' system at Mississippi State just based off of how some folks view him. If that's the case, I will take back what I said about him being a midtier starte

I'm not saying Shapen approaches RG3 level. But am saying it's obvious he improved this year, stats be damned. Having .9 seconds to throw will tend to reduce stats. RG3 could have created something, but he was a Heisman winner. Shapen is a solid starting qb now, and that is significantly better than he was last year.

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It will be interesting returning to this thread next season. I expect Blake to have minimum 4000 passing yards in Briles' system at Mississippi State just based off of how some folks view him. If that's the case, I will take back what I said about him being a midtier starte

I'm not saying Shapen approaches RG3 level. But am saying it's obvious he improved this year, stats be damned. Having .9 seconds to throw will tend to reduce stats. RG3 could have created something, but he was a Heisman winner. Shapen is a solid starting qb now, and that is significantly better than he was last year.

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It's easy to say stats be damned, but if stats don't matter when judging a quarterback, how can anyone make any sort of claim about him being better than last year? He could've just sat out all year, and people could still make those claims based off of their own speculation.

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It will be interesting returning to this thread next season. I expect Blake to have minimum 4000 passing yards in Briles' system at Mississippi State just based off of how some folks view him. If that's the case, I will take back what I said about him being a midtier starte

I'm not saying Shapen approaches RG3 level. But am saying it's obvious he improved this year, stats be damned. Having .9 seconds to throw will tend to reduce stats. RG3 could have created something, but he was a Heisman winner. Shapen is a solid starting qb now, and that is significantly better than he was last year.

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There is a lass than 50% chance Shapen even wins the starting job at Miss State.

Watch the tape. He played 2022 frequently gun shy as has been hit on plenty among this board after the TCU game where he missed Sims. He also would slide when he should've fought for the extra yard and fight for an extra yard when he should've slid.

This year he took some deep shots and a bunch of literal shots as he had very little pass protection. He improved his running game. Stats can miss things like poor pass protection, mediocre separation on the outside, drops, subpar play calling, among other things.

The biggest area Shapen improved was being a spark and leader. When he made a gutsy play this year it clearly helped to fire up some of the guys around him. He improved his running, see Houston game.

This is not saying he's RGIII or a Heisman candidate on another team. Just that he improved into a capable starting QB. With further improvement and a decent line perhaps he could be a quasi Nick Florence type.

Sawyer looked solid in the final game. One sample but with a new OC in town and a fan base that was chanting for the backup in a game Shapen played well, he might've decided for a change in scenery. Best of luck to him and I hope he finds what he's looking for in Starkville.

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It will be interesting returning to this thread next season. I expect Blake to have minimum 4000 passing yards in Briles' system at Mississippi State just based off of how some folks view him. If that's the case, I will take back what I said about him being a midtier starte

I'm not saying Shapen approaches RG3 level. But am saying it's obvious he improved this year, stats be damned. Having .9 seconds to throw will tend to reduce stats. RG3 could have created something, but he was a Heisman winner. Shapen is a solid starting qb now, and that is significantly better than he was last year.

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It's easy to say stats be damned, but if stats don't matter when judging a quarterback, how can anyone make any sort of claim about him being better than last year? He could've just sat out all year, and people could still make those claims based off of their own speculation.

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I guess we'll disagree. I saw the game and saw that in those few situations where he got protection, he was more accurate than last year. I watched the games, and he and a few others were the only bright spots. I always believe in looking at more than stats.

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Guitarbiscuit said:

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It will be interesting returning to this thread next season. I expect Blake to have minimum 4000 passing yards in Briles' system at Mississippi State just based off of how some folks view him. If that's the case, I will take back what I said about him being a midtier starte

I'm not saying Shapen approaches RG3 level. But am saying it's obvious he improved this year, stats be damned. Having .9 seconds to throw will tend to reduce stats. RG3 could have created something, but he was a Heisman winner. Shapen is a solid starting qb now, and that is significantly better than he was last year.

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There is a lass than 50% chance Shapen even wins the starting job at Miss State.

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I am not saying he will get the job. But I'm also saying he's better than he was last year. There's a minority who do not think so, and I am here to say that the minority is wrong.

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Guitarbiscuit said:

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It will be interesting returning to this thread next season. I expect Blake to have minimum 4000 passing yards in Briles' system at Mississippi State just based off of how some folks view him. If that's the case, I will take back what I said about him being a midtier starte

I'm not saying Shapen approaches RG3 level. But am saying it's obvious he improved this year, stats be damned. Having .9 seconds to throw will tend to reduce stats. RG3 could have created something, but he was a Heisman winner. Shapen is a solid starting qb now, and that is significantly better than he was last year.

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There is a lass than 50% chance Shapen even wins the starting job at Miss State.

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I am not saying he will get the job. But I'm also saying he's better than he was last year. There's a minority who do not think so, and I am here to say that the minority is wrong.

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Being better than "bad" which is what he was in 2022 doesn't mean his departure is a downgrade for Baylor.

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morethanhecouldbear said:

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No Quarterback said:

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morethanhecouldbear said:

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Lot of ignorant takes on Blake in here.

Shapen transferring is a big loss. He laid it all on the line and improved from last year to this year. All while not having time to throw and no running game to support him.

RG3 wouldn't have led this team to more than 4 wins.

We now lack experience at QB and we have a new OC. Those are not usually recipes for success.

Good luck in your future Blake!

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RGIII would've absolutely led this team to more than four wins with the easy schedule we had.

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This is a team sport. RG3 won 4 games his first year and 4 games his second year. I'd say we have comparable talent to those 2008 and 2009 squads. If anything, this years squad had less.

The point is this team was bad and it's going to take a lot more than 1 guy to make a difference.

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Assuming we are talking 2011 RGIII,

Also, we need to prove with statistics that Shapen was significantly better this year than he was last year. the stats do not support that.

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I don't think 2008 -2009 RG3 would, which are the years I'm comparing the 2023 team with. The 2011 team would have killed this years team and that wouldn't be Blake's fault.

The point is this years team was bad and it's going to take a lot more than 1 guy to make a difference.

Shapen's decision making and reads improved, without question. He also stepped up his leadership. The QB can only do so much with the talent that is around him, which had degraded considerably compared to the year before.

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No Quarterback said:

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morethanhecouldbear said:

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Lot of ignorant takes on Blake in here.

Shapen transferring is a big loss. He laid it all on the line and improved from last year to this year. All while not having time to throw and no running game to support him.

RG3 wouldn't have led this team to more than 4 wins.

We now lack experience at QB and we have a new OC. Those are not usually recipes for success.

Good luck in your future Blake!

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RGIII would've absolutely led this team to more than four wins with the easy schedule we had.

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This is a team sport. RG3 won 4 games his first year and 4 games his second year. I'd say we have comparable talent to those 2008 and 2009 squads. If anything, this years squad had less.

The point is this team was bad and it's going to take a lot more than 1 guy to make a difference.

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But those four loss games were exciting. Our losses are so boring I turn off TV.

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Source: Texas quarterback Maalik Murphy intends to enter the NCAA transfer portal. He’s alerted the Texas coaching staff of his intentions.

— Pete Thamel (@PeteThamel) December 13, 2023

boognish_bear said:

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Source: Texas quarterback Maalik Murphy intends to enter the NCAA transfer portal. He’s alerted the Texas coaching staff of his intentions.

— Pete Thamel (@PeteThamel) December 13, 2023

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Three years of eligibility left, get out the NIL checkbook.

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boognish_bear said:

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Source: Texas quarterback Maalik Murphy intends to enter the NCAA transfer portal. He’s alerted the Texas coaching staff of his intentions.

— Pete Thamel (@PeteThamel) December 13, 2023

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Three years of eligibility left, get out the NIL checkbook.

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Grabbing guys from the MAC is more our style.

NEWS: Oregon State quarterback Aidan Chiles is transferring to Michigan State, he tells ESPN. Chiles earned snaps as a true freshman playing for new MSU coach Jonathan Smith at OSU last year. He gives Smith a linchpin building block at quarterback as he starts his tenure. pic.twitter.com/IjTOhWyePN

— Pete Thamel (@PeteThamel) December 14, 2023

Is there a list of who all is visiting this weekend?

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Is there a list of who all is visiting this weekend?

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You would think that as bad as they have lost the fans that they would at least make some announcements on who they are targeting and who is coming for a visit.