Michigan has a 10 Million dollar QB in Underwood coming in.

IowaBear said:

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It's 1000% Oregon. Not sure why any HS QB would commit to the Ducks. They're firmly in the buy a new QB every year strategy

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And with the need to strike now and win while the iron is hot for Oregon, why would they go for a high school QB when they've been able to get proven QBs to transfer the last couple of years.

pitchspork said:

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thales said:

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teenagers commit and decommit

no reason to get your panties in a wad about it

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It wasn't just that Novosad decomitted, it was the way he did it. He really screwed us over at the final bell after we'd literally met all his demands for his entire recruitment.

I don't ever wish bad will on any of our prospective recruits, whether they decommit or not. But in Novosad's case it does feel like this bit of karma is deserved.

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OJT for Dave in how to recruit high school boys.

jikespingleton said:

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Harrison Bergeron said:

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I know this is shocking in Biden's 'Murica for the actual truth to be in the middle

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WITF does old man biden have to do with Novosad?

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I blame Obama.

Gotcha. Wasn't aware that was done deal

Supposedly in the range of 10-14 Million. But he did sign with them officially a few weeks ago

I figured Novosod moved back to Dripping Springs to work at a gas station and chase tail by now.

Ewers may be the most overrated QB in the country.

Is $10M / year / QB sustainable?

Not only is Ewers/whatever big QB transfer going to be ahead of Novosad next year, but so will Dante Moore, who is their perpetual QB2. Novosad could potentially be soaking in Spav's system right now, operate as the next man up next season, and have an actual opportunity to compete for QB1 the next summer with two full years to make a mark at a power program.

Instead he's going to probably stick out another season at Oregon and waste it before entering the portal with zero significant snaps under his belt as he vies against guys with real experience.

From an actual football perspective, Novosad's decision kneecapped both himself and Baylor.

Baylor is just fine. He knee capped himself.

How did he kneecap Baylor? He wouldn't have played last year anyway.

PartyBear said:

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Baylor is just fine. He knee capped himself.

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It obviously hurt us. His defection meant that Nate Bennett was our only QB in that class, and we had to reach again for depth purposes this cycle for Edward Griffin, and neither of those guys had a single power conference offer other than ours. Doesn't mean they can't be good, but it sure doesn't help the odds.

We can't afford to simply poach a readymade QB1 out of the portal every year like big programs do. I love that Sawyer is balling out, but we can't expect that to be the norm at the level we're recruiting on. We still have to recruit frosh and develop too, and that put a giant hole in our development progression that we're just going to have to plug with transfer guys.

parch said:

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PartyBear said:

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Baylor is just fine. He knee capped himself.

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It obviously hurt us. His defection meant that Nate Bennett was our only QB in that class, and we had to reach again for depth purposes this cycle for Edward Griffin, and neither of those guys had a single power conference offer other than ours. Doesn't mean they can't be good, but it sure doesn't help the odds.

We can't afford to simply poach a readymade QB1 out of the portal every year like big programs do. I love that Sawyer is balling out, but we can't expect that to be the norm at the level we're recruiting on. We still have to recruit frosh and develop too, and that put a giant hole in our development progression that we're just going to have to plug with transfer guys.

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Well and then we ended up playing Finn 3 games. Travesty in itself.

I don't know if he is in trouble as he is probably sitting on a pile of cash. But if his goal was to play in the NFL, then he may be in that sense. You have to play meaningful minutes to get on teams radar and Oregon keeps recruiting over him.

There is no doubt he hurt us with the last minute switch to Oregon. He was going to be the man here, or at least get that opportunity.

I would take Novosad back, but I think the bridge has been burned.

Baylor in the NIL/portal area is never going to be able to accumulate more than maybe two quarterbacks with significant P5 offer lists at a time. Guys want to play and get paid, and we just don't have the ability to make it all happen. Even the blue bloods struggle to do it

Ordinarily on these issues, I'm a keep the door open type. But the way it all went down, I think Aranda would be a fool to be open to being taken again by that family. I think it would be wise for Baylor just to have burned that bridge and write it off as lesson learned and I suspect they have.

Novosad is not as hyper competitive as some of you want to make him out to be. He's perfectly happy to sit while going to school at Oregon. He enjoys college more than football. Ask some of his relatives.

BearFan33 said:

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I don't know if he is in trouble as he is probably sitting on a pile of cash. But if his goal was to play in the NFL, then he may be in that sense. You have to play meaningful minutes to get on teams radar and Oregon keeps recruiting over him.

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Or, hear me out, kids want to get on the field. He took the money, and he thought he would get in line and eventually play, but they keep grabbing one-year transfers. The money is great, but kids still want the excitement of playing the game in college, not simply to increase NFL exposure.

PartyBear said:

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Ordinarily on these issues, I'm a keep the door open type. But the way it all went down, I think Aranda would be a fool to be open to being taken again by that family. I think it would be wise for Baylor just to have burned that bridge and write it off as lesson learned and I suspect they have.

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I agree. I understand it was always ultimately his prerogative, but given the amount of time, resources, and emotional investment spent in building a strong relationship with him over multiple years of recruitment, for him to have done what he did at literally the 11th hour is still shameful in my book. That bridge is fully burned, and it was him that lit match - so even if he expressed interest in us again, my response would be hard pass.

Big12Fan2024 said:

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Novosad is not as hyper competitive as some of you want to make him out to be. He's perfectly happy to sit while going to school at Oregon. He enjoys college more than football. Ask some of his relatives.

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1. Good for him for finding a spot where he can just be a student and be on schollie

2. I am glad he didn't come here because we don't need that

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Not only is Ewers/whatever big QB transfer going to be ahead of Novosad next year, but so will Dante Moore, who is their perpetual QB2. Novosad could potentially be soaking in Spav's system right now, operate as the next man up next season, and have an actual opportunity to compete for QB1 the next summer with two full years to make a mark at a power program.

Instead he's going to probably stick out another season at Oregon and waste it before entering the portal with zero significant snaps under his belt as he vies against guys with real experience.

From an actual football perspective, Novosad's decision kneecapped both himself and Baylor.

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With BYU in the Big 12 now, we have to watch our use of the word "soak."

But I pretty much agree with everything else you say here.

That said, it worked out the way it should have. If Novodad had kept his commitment, we likely wouldn't have Robertson right now. And I'm quite content with our current QB situation.

This guy probably does care to play. He swapped for the money and thats cool, but a competitive guy does stay around as the coaches shop for a new starter every year. Especially when you were suppose to be next in line. 2 season and he has thrown 11 passes. So that tells me he must be dog **** in practice

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This guy probably does care to play. He swapped for the money and thats cool, but a competitive guy does stay around as the coaches shop for a new starter every year. Especially when you were suppose to be next in line. 2 season and he has thrown 11 passes. So that tells me he must be dog **** in practice

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I'd argue that somebody that really wants to be a starter might also enter the portal and go start somewhere. Just throwing this out there, he probably makes more money as a backup at Oregon than as a starter at a G5 institution.

That's why I don't always buy that tired, "he's transferring because he doesn't want to compete" cliche. Sometimes you transfer because there's genuinely less of a chance of riding the bench at the new place

Perhaps he doesn't want to play. Perhaps he is in college because he wants to actually learn how to be a coach and is paid well to do so as well not to mention not have to pay for college. The current Oregon staff would be good to learn from. The offensive staff we had at the time for him to sign, not so much.

But I don't care if he has decided he doesn't want to play or he still does. Like I I said, in this rare circumstance I'm not sure I would have anyone return a call from the family other than as a brief professional courtesy if I was in charge of the staff. We are fine at QB anyhow and there are a lot of others for us to pick from now anyhow.

https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/41136586/smu-football-acc-death-penalty-return-2024

Daveisabovereproach said:

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ImwithBU said:

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This guy probably does care to play. He swapped for the money and thats cool, but a competitive guy does stay around as the coaches shop for a new starter every year. Especially when you were suppose to be next in line. 2 season and he has thrown 11 passes. So that tells me he must be dog **** in practice

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I'd argue that somebody that really wants to be a starter might also enter the portal and go start somewhere. Just throwing this out there, he probably makes more money as a backup at Oregon than as a starter at a G5 institution.

That's why I don't always buy that tired, "he's transferring because he doesn't want to compete" cliche. Sometimes you transfer because there's genuinely less of a chance of riding the bench at the new place

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I agree with you. I left the contractions out of my words which changed the meaning. In short I don't think he wants to start. He may be happy with just going to school and saying he is on a team. I would expect my QB to be more upset about Oregon shopping for a new starter each year. Also says he probably isn't all that good

MrGolfguy said:

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KARMA

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The consequences of greed driving your decisions and judgment.

They didn't mean anything before NIL.

We've still got people that bellyache over Kinne and he's in his 30's.

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parch said:

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Not only is Ewers/whatever big QB transfer going to be ahead of Novosad next year, but so will Dante Moore, who is their perpetual QB2. Novosad could potentially be soaking in Spav's system right now, operate as the next man up next season, and have an actual opportunity to compete for QB1 the next summer with two full years to make a mark at a power program.

Instead he's going to probably stick out another season at Oregon and waste it before entering the portal with zero significant snaps under his belt as he vies against guys with real experience.

From an actual football perspective, Novosad's decision kneecapped both himself and Baylor.

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With BYU in the Big 12 now, we have to watch our use of the word "soak."

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EvilTroyAndAbed said:

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How did he kneecap Baylor? He wouldn't have played last year anyway.

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Did you not see how our QB room was decimated by this? Or how Aranda's authority was weakened with the players? He literally allowed a high school kid to tell him how to run his roster and still ditched us even after Aranda caved in to every one of his requests.

Fortunately, Baylor has recovered since then and so has Aranda's credibility, but things were bleak for a few years.

CaliBear00 said:

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EvilTroyAndAbed said:

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How did he kneecap Baylor? He wouldn't have played last year anyway.

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Did you not see how our QB room was decimated by this? Or how Aranda's authority was weakened with the players? He literally allowed a high school kid to tell him how to run his roster and still ditched us even after Aranda caved in to every one of his requests.

Fortunately, Baylor has recovered since then and so has Aranda's credibility, but things were bleak for a few years.

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This is a bit of an exaggeration. In response to this we signed Robertson about 2-3 weeks later and it did nothing to Aranda's credibility with his players. Aranda seems to have as solid a loyalty to him from his players as I have seen based on the entries into the portal numbers. This was true even during the slump and when NIL was pretty low to non existent.

Maybe he really likes it at Oregon, has a nice girlfriend, likes the coaches and system, and feels like he has a shot to become a starter before he's done.

He may have always been high on Oregon before he committed at Baylor, before he recommitted.

That's the way recruiting go,

Daveisabovereproach said:

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I would take Novosad back, but I think the bridge has been burned.

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Absolutely, especially with the way Novosad went about it. I can't get over the fact that he actually contacted Coach Freeman at Notre Dame to request a meeting while committed to Baylor. WHO DOES THAT?!