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Ok, good talk.
Any list that has Florida 381 places ahead of Penn State is sus.

hahaha! That's a laugher!

Killing Floor said:

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Ok, good talk.
Any list that has Florida 381 places ahead of Penn State is sus.

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Don't agree - Florida has multiple national championships In football and basketball in recent memory, as well as a top 15 - 25 Ranking as an academic institution - depending on which publication you're looking at.

Terrible list. We're behind Ole Miss? They don't even go to class there. Proof you ask? I know multiple people who went there. Alabama? Pretty sure they accepted me before my transcript arrived. Know successful people who went to both but a couple of them would freely they knew people who skated by doing little work.

Side note: these lists are always dumb. There's no way to quantify. If you want to go into agriculture then K-State and Nebraska would be top 5.

Tech almost 100 places higher than BU??

What is the criteria for these rankings? Is this another one of those rankings that includes "equality and diversity" as part of their ranking system?

UH is crushing it likely due to taking a good chunk of international students and Asians. Doesn't hurt that there isn't another R1 public for another 100 miles.

Not to mention all of the Fortune 500 companies located within a 20 mi radius of campus where a lot of employees who never finished school can easily go back and finish it up there.

Still don't really understand the appeal of solid academic people winding up at UH.

johnnychimpo said:

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UH is crushing it likely due to taking a good chunk of international students and Asians. Doesn't hurt that there isn't another R1 public for another 100 miles.

Not to mention all of the Fortune 500 companies located within a 20 mi radius of campus where a lot of employees who never finished school can easily go back and finish it up there.

Still don't really understand the appeal of solid academic people winding up at UH.

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To be clear, UH has a very high ceiling as an institution in the long term, however, they may be 10-20 years away from truly arriving at or around that level.

Here are the metrics. I wonder how they defined academic success?

Baylor will always hurt a little when salary is factored in. As a school of faith we send many alums into very honorable but low paying professions. Pastors and other church work, not for profit work, social work, teaching, etc.

Daveisabovereproach said:

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What is the criteria for these rankings? Is this another one of those rankings that includes "equality and diversity" as part of their ranking system?

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"Return on investment" and "student debt" are a big part of it.

That will always hurt Baylor now that it cost $50k plus a year.

And that will help places like Ole Miss that costs 9K for instate tuition

Aberzombie1892 said:

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johnnychimpo said:

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UH is crushing it likely due to taking a good chunk of international students and Asians. Doesn't hurt that there isn't another R1 public for another 100 miles.

Not to mention all of the Fortune 500 companies located within a 20 mi radius of campus where a lot of employees who never finished school can easily go back and finish it up there.

Still don't really understand the appeal of solid academic people winding up at UH.

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To be clear, UH has a very high ceiling as an institution in the long term, however, they may be 10-20 years away from truly arriving at or around that level.

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If they ever open up the PUF money to other Texas public schools besides u.t. and aggy then yea it could be a very very good school.

Being located right in a ranked alpha world city like Houston is seriously good location for a public university with good funding

https://houston.innovationmap.com/oxford-economics-global-cities-index-2024-2668392256.html

Rice is designated R1

Redbrickbear said:

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Daveisabovereproach said:

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What is the criteria for these rankings? Is this another one of those rankings that includes "equality and diversity" as part of their ranking system?

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"Return on investment" and "student debt" are a big part of it.

That will always hurt Baylor now that it cost $50k plus a year.

And that will help places like Ole Miss that costs 9K for instate tuition

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Oh I see. Yeah, I can't disagree with that

UH and Rice are only twenty three miles from IAH. There are direct nonstop flights available to places like Johannesburg, South Africa, and Singapore. That's twenty three hours flight time, or about ten thousand miles.

Stupid list is stupid

Bogus list is bogus

Redbrickbear said:

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Daveisabovereproach said:

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What is the criteria for these rankings? Is this another one of those rankings that includes "equality and diversity" as part of their ranking system?

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"Return on investment" and "student debt" are a big part of it.

That will always hurt Baylor now that it cost $50k plus a year.

And that will help places like Ole Miss that costs 9K for instate tuition

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Yep - state schools will tend to fare much better.

boognish_bear said:

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Here are the metrics. I wonder how they defined academic success?

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How they determined their rankings:
Alumni salary (20%)
Debt (15%)
Graduation Rate (15%)
Forbes American Leaders List (15%)
Return on investment (15%)
Retention rate (10%)
Academic success (10%)

So what's your point? In what world is Rice considered a public? Rice is also far more utilized for graduate studies than the rest of the state. Who brags about an undergrad degree from Rice in fine arts?

It isn't just public/private. Tech schools have huge advantage because engineers walk out with good salaries. Rice does well because it has strong science and engineering. Schools that are strong on liberal arts or (as someone else noted) who tend to have a lot of social work and teaching grads, don't score as well.

It's actually a pretty objective approach. It's just flawed in terms of measuring what colleges are about

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"Athens, we have a problem…"

I'm willing to go down the path of a crazy debate with you but I'll need some context. What are you talking about?
Rice is private but so is Baylor and so are many of the schools on that OP list. So what?

And "who brags about a degree from Rice"?
Anyone who has the grades to get into Rice.

My post about Rice was in reference to someone saying there was no R1 university within 100 miles of UH and Rice and UH are both R1. And I have a map.

Anyway, it's July so we have another full month to argue about nonsense so Bring It.

Killing Floor said:

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My post about Rice was in reference to someone saying there was no R1 university within 100 miles of UH and Rice and UH are both R1. And I have a map.

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Reading comprehension is hard

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Doesn't hurt that there isn't another R1 PUBLIC for another 100 miles.

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There are not 500 schools in the P5, not even 100. It's just a few dozen.